John Wayne Gacy's artwork displayed in West Palm Beach
Chocolic
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-gacyart0605,0,1320295.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
Sun-Sentinel
Posted June 5 2004, 3:48 PM EDT
WEST PALM BEACH -- Some paintings by executed serial killer John Wayne
Gacy are being displayed this month at an antiques store in Palm Beach
County, despite the objections of some who say the profit from selling
the art is ``blood money.''
In all, 19 paintings -- ranging from a $195 image of a bird to a
$9,500 depiction of dwarfs playing baseball against the Chicago
Cubs -- are for sale. The collection represents about one-tenth of the
Gacy paintings collected by Steve Koschal, a Lantana-based celebrity
autograph expert who corresponded with Gacy during the final four
years of his incarceration in Illinois.
``You'd be surprised who buys these paintings,'' Koschal said. ``You
might think some tough motorcycle gang off the street, but it's
doctors, lawyers, professional people, Hollywood and media types.''
Gacy, a building contractor and amateur clown, was convicted of luring
33 young men and boys to his Chicago area home for sex and strangling
them between 1972 and 1978. Most were buried in a crawl space under
the home; four others were dumped in rivers.
He spent 14 years in prison, painting pictures of Snow White and the
Seven Dwarfs and fellow serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer before being
executed in 1994.
``It's blood money,'' said Andrew Kahan, the director of the Mayor's
Crime Victims Office in Houston. He pushed for Texas and California to
pass laws blocking people from profiting by selling items associated
with violent criminals.
``Nobody would give two cents for his art if it weren't for the fact
that he was one of the nation's most prolific serial killers,'' Kahan
said.
Koschal said he doesn't condone what Gacy did, yet also doesn't
believe he's doing anything wrong.
``Whether you like it or not, there's a huge demand,'' Koschal said.
The artwork of some of the country's most notorious killers has long
had a macabre following. Gacy's clown paintings have hung in galleries
nationwide, and pencil drawings by ``Helter-Skelter'' killer Charles
Manson have also been displayed and sold.
Other subjects featured in Gacy paintings include Elvis Presley,
Jesus, Mickey Mouse and clowns named Pogo, Patches, Skull and Death.
After his execution, Gacy's artwork was auctioned off. Some people
bought the art solely to destroy it; a bonfire in Naperville, Ill. in
June 1994 was attended by 300 people, including family members of nine
victims who watched 25 of Gacy's paintings and drawings burn.
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Chocolic
Lars Eighner
<d%ywc.39593$_k3.9...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
the lovely and talented Chocolic
broadcast on alt.true-crime:
> The artwork of some of the country's most notorious killers has long
> had a macabre following. Gacy's clown paintings have hung in galleries
> nationwide, and pencil drawings by ``Helter-Skelter'' killer Charles
> Manson have also been displayed and sold.
Remind me again, who did Charles Manson kill?
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Sparrow 13
wrote...
> ``Nobody would give two cents for his art if it weren't for the fact
> that he was one of the nation's most prolific serial killers,'' Kahan
> said.
>
I'm none too sure of that. I've seen a number of JWC's paintings
reproduced in books and online, and they have an eerie power that would be
there even if the name they were signed with wasn't a name associated with
major attention-grabbing horror. The paintings kind of compell your gaze
and speak of rot and dread with a silent intensity which is sometimes
mocking and sometimes utterly sincere. He had a genuine aesthetic, albeit a
malformed and virulent one, which he was true to in his artwork.I think that
if one apprerciates Art Brut one would be able to see some of the same power
and purity of vision in some of the Killer Klown's paintings.
> Other subjects featured in Gacy paintings include Elvis Presley,
> Jesus, Mickey Mouse and clowns named Pogo, Patches, Skull and Death.
The theoretically unthreatening ones are the most sinister and scary ones
he did. Look at the Seven Dwarfs painting....they look like they're
planning a gang bang and dismemberment scene on Snow White, or something.
Or the Bambi one....way sicker somehow than if he had painted his victims in
their last extremity.
"I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames"
--some dead drunkard
Sparrow 13
nan
Killer Gary Gilmore, executed by firing squad in Utah, was a superior
artist (and poet) compared to serial killer clown-obsessed Gacy.
To view Gilmore's poster art, etc. His art is not for burning.
http://www.noiseville.com/gilmore1.html
Hester888Mofet
Not the same Gary Gilmore.
Hester Mofet
Sarah Monroe
Pablo Picasso and Gacy now?
GARY GILMORE is a household name in the NYC hardcore punk scene. He’s done
numerous record and cd covers, several dozen flyers, a number of posters,
magazine covers, etc. There is a grassroots following that grabs everything he
does. It s not unusual that when a new Gary flyer arrives at a record store
that they are all grabbed within hours, no matter who the flyer may be for.
People just want them because a Gary Gilmore flyer is unique. Gary has
established himself as the NYC flyer artist of the last 5 years or so. There
have already been a number of flyers made booting Gary’s art without him
knowing it, and he loves it! He wants his art out there. He gets letters from
kids who tell him that they make copies of his flyers to give to their friends
and that they have them plastered all over their bedroom walls. He really loves
that. For a number of years he made posters printed on thin paper stock in
order to keep the price of the posters affordable to the average kid. But of
course he has also made a number of silk screen posters which cost much more to
make, and naturally sell for more. Lately he has been doing silk screen prints
for The Posterbarn (we don’t carry those, but if you’re looking for them,
email for details). Even though most of the offset posters listed below are big
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Gms
S*T*R*E*S*S That confusion created when ones mind overrides the bodies basic
desire to choke the living crap out of some jerk that richly deserves it....The
Devil's Dictionary
nan
Hmmm...you could be right, but I have seen excellent drawings by the
killer Gary Gilmore who also wrote better than average poetry. I
thought the site was for the KILLER Gilmore. I'll check further to
prove my point that killer Gary Gilmore was a better artist than Gacy.
Thanks for the tip. Regards, from Nan
nan
I don't want to detract from Choc's topic on Gacy, but just to
substantiate my comment about the killer Gary Gilmore being the better
artist:
from www.crimelibrary.com:
Writing about Gary's youthful troubles:
"Gary often ended up in solitary confinement over his inability to
conform to the prison routines."
"Yet spending so much time alone in solitary proved beneficial. With
an IQ of 130, he educated himself in literature and began to write
poetry. More notably, he developed an artistic talent that won
contests. For that, he was granted an early release in 1972 to live
in a halfway house in Eugene and attend art school at the local
community college. While he welcomed this opportunity, it apparently
intimidated him. Rather than show up to register, he stayed away and
drank."
Gary Gilmore belongs in his own thread, so I will bow out.
from Nan
Sarah Monroe
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>from Nan
>
Whether or not Gary Gilmore, the killer, was the better artist is irrelevant.
You posted a Url claiming it was the artwork of Gary Gilmore, the killer. YOU
WERE WRONG, ADMIT IT.
Hester888Mofet
>
>hester8...@aol.com (Hester888Mofet) got pissed off and typed
>news:20040606100611...@mb-m02.aol.com:
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>> Not the same Gary Gilmore.
>>
>> Hester Mofet
>
>Did you see Gacy's stuff? Just curious.
>
>Michael
Yeah, I've seen some of it before. His dwarves are creepy. My husband told me
that there used to be one of his paintings up at a gay S&M dungeon in Chicago.
Now *that* would creep me out.
Hester Mofet
Kyle
Ressler's books. One of the paintings had a cryptic inscription
which, Ressler believed, hinted that there were further dead bodies,
courtesy of Gacy, waiting to be found.
That T Woman
"Hester888Mofet" <hester8...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040606172948...@mb-m29.aol.com...
If it were me, I couldn't get beyond the fact that the husband knew about
the decor of a gay S&M dungeon! That would be scary to me.
T
Hester888Mofet
Why? My husband and I are both bisexual and both into S&M.
Hester Mofet
Chocolic
"Lars Eighner" <eig...@io.com> wrote in message
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You're not serious, are you?
Chocolic
Lars Eighner
<U1Rwc.17332$Gx4....@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
broadcast on alt.true-crime:
>> Remind me again, who did Charles Manson kill?
> You're not serious, are you?
Well, yeah. Did he kill a drifter or something on the ranch?
I can't remember whether he actually killed anyone.
Chocolic
I see what you mean. Well, okay he led a bunch of his followers to do
the killings which is as bad IMO. I guess he would be a serial killer
by proxy, or something like that. His followers were so devoted to
him, that we will never know if he actually killed anybody with his
own hands in other cases, because they so protected him. That is
probably the most bizarre murder case I have ever read.
Chocolic
Sarah Monroe
>I can't remember whether he actually killed anyone.
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>Lars Eighner -finger for geek code- eig...@io.com
>http://www.io.com/~eighner/
> Quoting me will give your meaningless drivel a little color, no pun
>intended.
> -- "Fineous"
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That was the gossip but it was never proven and it was not part of his trial.