FL: Woman Found Murdered, Body Hidden Under Pile of Laundry
Bo Raxo
This is one of those that has some interesting angles. Why did the
perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
make sure her kids didn't find it? Buying additional time to get
away? Psychologically/symbolically "burying" the victim?
And why did her boyfriend wait until the next day to report it to
police? There were visible blood spatters in the bedroom, so I'm
guessing he didn't even look around her house until the next morning.
Was it not unusual for her to disappear?
My guess is it's drug related - she had some people come over, to buy,
to sell, to get high together, who knows. They killed her and took
off in her car, something that simple.
Bo Raxo
http://www.wftv.com/news/10784060/detail.html
BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. -- Three children came home from school this week
and their mother wasn't home. It was only after 36 hours of searching
that investigators found her dead under a pile of clothes.
The three children were staying with their grandparents, Thursday,
while detectives begin a murder investigation. Detectives have
discovered one clue in the murder of Sherri Carman.
Deputies brought in blood spatter experts from the Florida Department
of Law Enforcement to look at the crime scene inside the house on
Virginia Drive, just north of Titusville. Outside, there has been a
steady stream of tears and disbelief.
Sherri Carman's friends broke down once they saw for themselves that
the 29-year-old's home was now a crime scene.
"I just want to know why," said friend Brandi Gorman.
The first sign of trouble came Tuesday, when Carman's children arrived
home from Mims Elementary School and their mother and her car were
gone. The children stayed with a neighbor until Wednesday morning, when
Carman's boyfriend arrived home from work and reported her missing.
When deputies arrived Wednesday, they found blood in her bedroom.
Deputies initially backed out to preserve evidence of what they
believed might be a murder and, late Wednesday night, they discovered
her body hidden by clothing in a laundry room and confirmed the Carman
family's worst fears.
"They don't think they know that their mommy is gone forever yet. I
think they still believe that they are looking for her and she is just
missing," said Lisa Baisden, the victim's aunt.
Her friends said she was a stay-at-home, do-it-yourself mom, who spent
her time caring for her children and remodeling the house she grew up
in. Her family said she had no enemies.
"I don't know why somebody would do something like this to her. She was
a good girl. She would do anything for anyone and has," Baisden said.
[ Many a good samaritan has been bitten by the mouth they were trying
to feed. - Bo ]
Police found her blue Chrysler in Orlando. It was brought back to
Brevard County and is being examined. Police said they have identified
two men and a woman who were in possession of the Chrysler in the last
24 hours. They interviewed them Thursday, but would not identify them.
Messalina
Bo Raxo wrote:
> This is one of those that has some interesting angles. Why did the
> perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
> make sure her kids didn't find it? Buying additional time to get
> away? Psychologically/symbolically "burying" the victim?
>
> And why did her boyfriend wait until the next day to report it to
> police? There were visible blood spatters in the bedroom, so I'm
> guessing he didn't even look around her house until the next morning.
> Was it not unusual for her to disappear?
>
> My guess is it's drug related - she had some people come over, to buy,
> to sell, to get high together, who knows. They killed her and took
> off in her car, something that simple.
>
>
Mez
Bo Raxo
Messalina wrote:
> >
> Bo, OT, did you watch Dexter on Showtime? Awesome series,.
>
Watched the first three episodes, hated it. Only lasted that long
because the lead actor is so good, I'd watch him in (almost) anything.
The premise is, to be, fundamentally stupid: how could he know enough
about his targets to be able to judge?
The final straw was the episode about the teen who he thought was a
budding serial killer (and it was confusing, because the teen he was
targeting looked so much like the teen who played Dexter in
flashbacks). He's about to kill the kid when - oh, you couldn't see
this coming a mile away? - the target blurts out that he was raped by
the man he killed. There's everything wrong with the premise in a
nutshell, and bad writing, too.
Good actors, bad writing - like the oh-so-tightly wound cop who is the
only one that thinks Dexter is creepy, and the rest of the cliches that
populate the show. Bleh. Bring back The Shield, and until then I'll
get by with Battlestar Galactica and 30 Rock (Tina Fey, is there
anything that beauty can't do?).
Bo Raxo
Michael Snyder
"Bo Raxo" <fore...@earthcorp.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> This is one of those that has some interesting angles. Why did the
> perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
> make sure her kids didn't find it? Buying additional time to get
> away? Psychologically/symbolically "burying" the victim?
>
> And why did her boyfriend wait until the next day to report it to
> police?
Umm... because it was the first he knew about it?
The children stayed with a neighbor until Wednesday morning,
when Carman's boyfriend arrived home from work and reported
her missing.
My guess would be, he works nights.
Bo Raxo
Yes, I agree he probably works nights. I guess it' s possible it's the
first he heard about it. But that seems unlikely.
Woman has three kids, they show up at the neighbors because there's no
adult around. You don't think anybody called the boyfriend to ask if
he knew where she was? Unless it was a very new relationship, the
neighbor wasn't a stranger from the sound of things, and your friends
have the number of your s.o. because everybody stows everybody's number
in their cells.
There aren't too many people who have a job and don't have a cell
phone. There aren't too many jobs where you can't check your messages
at some point, especially since the phones let you know you have new
voicemail.
Maybe she disappears every now and then, so it was not a big deal at
first. But if not, then you know the neighbor or someone called him to
ask if he knew where she was, it just seems very unlikely in this day
and age anybody wouldn't do that right away. Probably call a few of
her closest friends, too, and maybe it's one of them that would end up
calling the boyfriend. But somebody would (and if you reversed the
genders, the call would still happen).
Makes me suspicious of the boyfriend, that and the tucking of the body
under the laundry. Oh, I know they arrested three other people in
connection with the car, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have been
there when it went down. After all, it happened during the day while
her kids were in school, and we think he probably works nights.
Bo Raxo
cro...@earthlink.net
the victim and does not want the victim "staring" at him/her...
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AusWendy
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>
> perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
> make sure her kids didn't find it?
And either she was tiny or it was a massive pile of laundry lol.
Aus Wendy
Bo Raxo
LOL!
True story: I had a neighbor who lived on Filbert near Gough, nice
part of SF. She'd ben out drinking the night before, and when she tied
one one, well... So she'd gotten home hammered, she had left a large
pile of washed but not folded laundry on her bed, and was so drunk she
just crawled under the pile of laundry and passed out.
Next morning, she awakens to noise in her bedroom. Sits up from under
that laundry, and startles the burglar who is rifling through the
jewelry box on top of her dresser. He turns around, and he's wearing
her hat from Burning Tree (the girl was an avid golfer). She said
that in a way, she was lucky she was so massively hung over and her
head was pounding, because it made her get scared slowly instead of
immediately losing it. And lucky she'd not bothered to take her
clothes off when she craled in to bed.
He starts telling her that he just wants some money and he'll leave,
she keeps telling him she doesn't have any money and he needs to leave
before she starts screaming. Couple of rounds of this, she realizes
he's eyeing her engagement ring, which was on her hand and the only
piece of real jewelry she owned. She said there was no way in hell she
was giving up that ring, and apparently he believe her, because he went
out the same window he'd apparently climbed in (climbed up a drainpipe,
second floor).
Police arrive in something like four minutes, multiple units, the do a
sweep search, don't find him, but do get a set of prints off of the
windowsill. IIRC it was something like four or six weeks later they
caught him in the Marina, climbing in to another window. She never did
get her hat back, though.
Bo Raxo
Michael Snyder
>
> Michael Snyder wrote:
> > "Bo Raxo" <fore...@earthcorp.com> wrote in message
> > news:1169327406.6...@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > This is one of those that has some interesting angles. Why did the
> > > perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
> > > make sure her kids didn't find it? Buying additional time to get
> > > away? Psychologically/symbolically "burying" the victim?
> > >
> > > And why did her boyfriend wait until the next day to report it to
> > > police?
> >
> > Umm... because it was the first he knew about it?
> >
> > The children stayed with a neighbor until Wednesday morning,
> > when Carman's boyfriend arrived home from work and reported
> > her missing.
> >
> > My guess would be, he works nights.
>
> Yes, I agree he probably works nights. I guess it' s possible it's the
> first he heard about it. But that seems unlikely.
>
> Woman has three kids, they show up at the neighbors because there's no
> adult around. You don't think anybody called the boyfriend to ask if
> he knew where she was?
Depends. I've never given out my phone number to my
girlfriend's neighbors. Those times when I had a gf with
kids, I doubt the kids would've known how to reach me.
> Unless it was a very new relationship, the
> neighbor wasn't a stranger from the sound of things, and your friends
> have the number of your s.o. because everybody stows everybody's number
> in their cells.
I do not know the phone number of the s.o. of any of my friends.
People are different, I suppose...
A.
Bo Raxo wrote:
> This is one of those that has some interesting angles. Why did the
> perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
> make sure her kids didn't find it? Buying additional time to get
> away? Psychologically/symbolically "burying" the victim?
First thing that comes to my mind - is that the killer was mighty
pissed at her - and still thought of her as alive, was still arguing
with her, about her, even though she was dead.
"She'll NEVER look HERE! That bitch NEVER does the laundry!!!!!!!!"
As if she might return from the dead - and the laundry would be like a
stake in heart.
>
> And why did her boyfriend wait until the next day to report it to
> police? There were visible blood spatters in the bedroom, so I'm
> guessing he didn't even look around her house until the next morning.
> Was it not unusual for her to disappear?
Because he probably killed her. That would be my first guess - if
we're guessing. Which we must be, since we can't read the guy's mind.
>
> My guess is it's drug related - she had some people come over, to buy,
> to sell, to get high together, who knows. They killed her and took
> off in her car, something that simple.
Right. We'll see. Why in the bedroom?
A.
Messalina
You bailed too early. Turned out the kid was in fact a predator.
Dexter was steps away from taking him out when the cops showed up and
nailed the kid.
Mez
Uncle Clover
<snip>
> (Tina Fey, is there anything that beauty can't do?).
Yes.
Bo Raxo
A. wrote:
> Bo Raxo wrote:
> > This is one of those that has some interesting angles. Why did the
> > perp hide her body under a pile of laundry? Was he or she trying to
> > make sure her kids didn't find it? Buying additional time to get
> > away? Psychologically/symbolically "burying" the victim?
>
> First thing that comes to my mind - is that the killer was mighty
> pissed at her - and still thought of her as alive, was still arguing
> with her, about her, even though she was dead.
>
Police have made an arrest, they say the suspect killed her in a fit of
rage after she made a comment that made him lose his temper. Points to
you for a correct guess.
> "She'll NEVER look HERE! That bitch NEVER does the laundry!!!!!!!!"
>
LOL, yeah, that is too funny.
> As if she might return from the dead - and the laundry would be like a
> stake in heart.
> >
> > And why did her boyfriend wait until the next day to report it to
> > police? There were visible blood spatters in the bedroom, so I'm
> > guessing he didn't even look around her house until the next morning.
> > Was it not unusual for her to disappear?
>
> Because he probably killed her. That would be my first guess - if
> we're guessing. Which we must be, since we can't read the guy's mind.
The suspect they arrested is not the boyfriend. However, there may
have been a sexual relationship.
The man arrested is described as a "lifelong friend" who was staying at
the house she shared with her boyfriend. The suspect has claimed to the
media that the victim told him she was HIV positive and that she had
infected him; OTOH, he's also claimed he didn't kill her at all, and it
was actually a friend of his daughter's who did it. So, grain of salt
and all.
> >
> > My guess is it's drug related - she had some people come over, to buy,
> > to sell, to get high together, who knows. They killed her and took
> > off in her car, something that simple.
The suspect under arrest traded her car for drugs. You know there ha
dto be somebody getting high in there somewhere for a crime so
senseless.
>
> Right. We'll see. Why in the bedroom?
>
Looks like he was stashing the body until he figured out what to do
with it.
Here's an article, with a photo of the suspect:
http://www.wftv.com/news/10795895/detail.html
And here's his hilariously bad explanation:
But now in jail, Townson said he made up the confession to protect his
daughter's friend, who he said is the real killer. Townson said he
walked in on the murder and, after trying to fight his daughter's
friend off, he fled, taking Carman's car and trading it for drugs in
Orlando. He said he made up the original confession to protect his
daughter's friend.
"Yes, it bothers me. She was like my family. I've known her all my
life. I should have never left her there with that person," Townson
said.
- - - - -
Okay Mike, good luck with that story at trial. You're gonna need it.
Bo Raxo
Uncle Clover
<snip>
> [...] here's his hilariously bad explanation:
>
> But now in jail, Townson said he made up the confession to protect his
> daughter's friend, who he said is the real killer. Townson said he
> walked in on the murder and, after trying to fight his daughter's
> friend off, he fled, taking Carman's car and trading it for drugs in
> Orlando. He said he made up the original confession to protect his
> daughter's friend.
>
> "Yes, it bothers me. She was like my family. I've known her all my
> life. I should have never left her there with that person," Townson
> said.
>
> - - - - -
>
> Okay Mike, good luck with that story at trial. You're gonna need it.
O. M. *F*ing. G.
Think he & O.J. might want to consider writing a book together? :-? I'm sure
I've seen a _more_ lame defense, but one isn't jumping right out at me from just
off the top of my head, though. :-/
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
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