O.J. Simpson: Mitochondrial DNA tests on hairs in cap?
MIRSE
on the hairs found in the cap discovered next to Nicole's body. Nicole was
Simpson's ex-wife.
Mitochondrial DNA technology has come a long way in the 10 years since the
Simpson trial.
I bet the mitochondrial DNA tests will trace the DNA to O.J.'s mother,
because, as I understand it, mitochondrial DNA tests trace the mother's side of
the family.
Simpson could not object to any mitochondrial DNA tests conducted on the
hairs in the cap, because he claimed that the cap was not his. mi...@aol.com
Volfie "Gen. Disarray" Jackson
> Simpson could not object to any mitochondrial DNA tests conducted on
the
> hairs in the cap, because he claimed that the cap was not his.
mi...@aol.com
Are you STILL harping on this? Haven't you been on about this for a decade
now? Write this down and hang it on every vertical surface in your house:
IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE.
Giselle (why do the test? it's a waste of time and money)
Michael Snyder
Well, it's a thought, but mitochondrial dna results are far less
conclusive than nuclear dna, and the simpson case seems to turn on
the minutae of reliability of evidence.
Robert Lee
news:20040608142031...@mb-m18.aol.com:
> In the O.J. Simpson case, I wish someone would do mitochondrial DNA
tests
> on the hairs found in the cap discovered next to Nicole's body.
Why on earth would anybody do that, and what case? The case is over.
Whatever any of us think about it, the man was aquitted.
> Simpson could not object to any mitochondrial DNA tests conducted
> on the
> hairs in the cap, because he claimed that the cap was not his.
Well, he couldn't if it wasn't for that horrible "double jeopardy" thing
where the state can't keep trying you for the same thing over and over
until it gets a guilty verdict.
--
--Robert
"I did once get him to admit the beauty of Bembo," he adds, "a serif."
Karen O'Mara
OOOoooohhhh, I love your way of thinking!!!!
OKC TRINIA
>where the state can't keep trying you for the same thing over and over
>until it gets a guilty verdict.
But they could get him for Perjury if it was proven he is guilty of the crime
that would me he lied on the stand.
Aussie Lurker
"OKC TRINIA" <okct...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> But they could get him for Perjury if it was proven he is guilty of the
crime
> that would me he lied on the stand.
>
>
Aussie Lurker
Sarah Monroe
Amazing how we have people all over this group that want to run the show but
know so little about the case.
No matter what people think, he is playing golf and having a good time while
other people are raving on and on. Get over it. There are horrible crimes
every day.
Gms
A question for today too.
"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?'' Ronald Reagan 1980
Kathy
> mi...@aol.com (MIRSE) wrote in message news:<20040608142031...@mb-m18.aol.com>...
>
>>In the O.J. Simpson case, I wish someone would do mitochondrial DNA tests
>>on the hairs found in the cap discovered next to Nicole's body. Nicole was
>>Simpson's ex-wife.
I'll bet that it wouldn't matter. They would just say the police
planted OJ's cap, just like the glove.
Kathy
Volfie "Gen. Disarray" Jackson
"Kathy" <kb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:cOExc.495$mz....@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Karen O'Mara wrote:
>
> > mi...@aol.com (MIRSE) wrote in message
news:<20040608142031...@mb-m18.aol.com>...
> >
> >>In the O.J. Simpson case, I wish someone would do mitochondrial DNA
tests
> >>on the hairs found in the cap discovered next to Nicole's body. Nicole
was
> >>Simpson's ex-wife.
>
> I'll bet that it wouldn't matter. They would just say the police
> planted OJ's cap, just like the glove.
>
> Kathy
<SLAP!> It *wouldn't matter* if OJ said, "Yes I killed her and yes those
are my fucking hairs in that fucking cap, you stupid, dumbass people."
Giselle (what part of this don't you people GET?)
MIRSE
>From: "Volfie \"Gen. Disarray\" Jackson" vol...@ccrtc.com
>Date: 6/9/2004 10:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <10ce6i4...@corp.supernews.com>
><SLAP!> It *wouldn't matter* if OJ said, "Yes I killed her and yes those
>are my fucking hairs in that fucking cap, you stupid, dumbass people."
>
>Giselle (what part of this don't you people GET?)
>
********
Yes, it would matter if Simpson came out and admitted that he did it.
1. At the very least, it would obviously clear Fuhrman, and prove that Fuhrman
was telling the truth when he said he found the bloody glove on Simpson's
property.
2. It would clear detective Vannatar from the dark cloud hanging over him
because many Simpson supporters say that Vannater planted Simpson's blood.
3. Finally, it would prove that the Los Angeles police lab workers did not
contaminate blood samples with Simpson's blood like lawyer Scheck claimed it
did.
So, again, it would make a BIG difference if Simpson admitted that he did
it.
Note: The main reason I bring up the idea of using mitochondrial DNA tests
in the Simpson case is this: Crier on Courttv is devoting an entire week to
the Simpson case in remembrance of the 10 year anniversary of the case, and
over on Fox News, Greta is doing the same thing by presenting, over several
nights, recent interviews that she did with Simpson.
In other words, because Simpson is in the news again, it is proper to discuss
the Simpson case again. mi...@aol.com
Steve Sullivan
mi...@aol.com (MIRSE) wrote:
> >Subject: Re: O.J. Simpson: Mitochondrial DNA tests on hairs in cap?
> >From: "Volfie \"Gen. Disarray\" Jackson" vol...@ccrtc.com
> >Date: 6/9/2004 10:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <10ce6i4...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> ><SLAP!> It *wouldn't matter* if OJ said, "Yes I killed her and yes those
> >are my fucking hairs in that fucking cap, you stupid, dumbass people."
> >
> >Giselle (what part of this don't you people GET?)
> >
>
> ********
> Yes, it would matter if Simpson came out and admitted that he did it.
>
> 1. At the very least, it would obviously clear Fuhrman, and prove that
> Fuhrman
> was telling the truth when he said he found the bloody glove on Simpson's
> property.
God damn you are dumb. You dont think the police could frame a GUILTY
person?
>
> 2. It would clear detective Vannatar from the dark cloud hanging over him
> because many Simpson supporters say that Vannater planted Simpson's blood.
>
See above.
Steve Sullivan
> "OKC TRINIA" <okct...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040609021404...@mb-m03.aol.com...
> >
> > But they could get him for Perjury if it was proven he is guilty of the
> crime
> > that would me he lied on the stand.
> >
> >
Ok Miss law expert, and what is the statute of limitations for perjury?
Maybe you should get a law degree before you post your clueless opinions.
Sarah Monroe
>Maybe you should get a law degree before you post your clueless opinions.
>
>
>
>
>
Steve, where is the perjury? OJ never took the stand. The only thing he said
was "100% not guilty". Can't charge somebody for a not guilty.
Scorpi...@attnospam.net
>>"OKC TRINIA" <okct...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:20040609021404...@mb-m03.aol.com...
>>>
>>> But they could get him for Perjury if it was proven he is guilty
of the
>>crime
>>> that would me he lied on the stand.
>>>
>>>
>>LOL if only, Simpson NEVER took the stand.
>>
>>Aussie Lurker
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Amazing how we have people all over this group that want to run the
show but
>know so little about the case.
Who was trying to run the show Granny?
>
>No matter what people think, he is playing golf and having a good
time while
>other people are raving on and on. Get over it. There are horrible
crimes
>every day.
>
>Gms
--
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number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
~ George Bush Jr. 2001-09-13
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don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
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Volfie "Gen. Disarray" Jackson
"MIRSE" <mi...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: O.J. Simpson: Mitochondrial DNA tests on hairs in cap?
> >From: "Volfie \"Gen. Disarray\" Jackson" vol...@ccrtc.com
> >Date: 6/9/2004 10:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <10ce6i4...@corp.supernews.com>
>
> ><SLAP!> It *wouldn't matter* if OJ said, "Yes I killed her and yes those
> >are my fucking hairs in that fucking cap, you stupid, dumbass people."
> >
> >Giselle (what part of this don't you people GET?)
> >
>
> ********
> Yes, it would matter if Simpson came out and admitted that he did it.
>
> 1. At the very least, it would obviously clear Fuhrman,
Clear him of what? He didn't do anything.
and prove that Fuhrman
> was telling the truth when he said he found the bloody glove on Simpson's
> property.
Anyone who currently believes he did that will still continue to believe
that. Those who don't believe it don't need proof it's not true.
> 2. It would clear detective Vannatar from the dark cloud hanging over him
> because many Simpson supporters say that Vannater planted Simpson's blood.
Those who believe he did that will continue to hold true to their beliefs.
It will not change anything.
> 3. Finally, it would prove that the Los Angeles police lab workers did not
> contaminate blood samples with Simpson's blood like lawyer Scheck claimed
it
> did.
AGAIN, those who believe that will continue to believe it because those are
the same folks who grasp at any straw.
> So, again, it would make a BIG difference if Simpson admitted that he
did
> it.
Nope, it won't make one whit of difference to 99-99/100% of the people
familiar with this case because they have had 10 years to set their mind and
make up all the excuses and alternate theories they are comfortable with.
Even if a video tape of the murders surface, very few people would believe
it.
> Note: The main reason I bring up the idea of using mitochondrial DNA
tests
> in the Simpson case is this: Crier on Courttv is devoting an entire week
to
> the Simpson case in remembrance of the 10 year anniversary of the case,
and
> over on Fox News, Greta is doing the same thing by presenting, over
several
> nights, recent interviews that she did with Simpson.
Oh, pulllleeezze! You've been hawking this theory like snake-oil FOREVER.
You are one of those people who will never change their minds from your
favorite theory no matter what happens.
> In other words, because Simpson is in the news again, it is proper to
discuss
> the Simpson case again. mi...@aol.com
The Simpson case is very fascinating and fun to discuss but it is over.
Calling for tests to prove OJ's guilt/innocence is a fool's folly because
the police have declared the case closed. THEY think he's guilty and they
charged the right man. Unless another suspect comes along (never gonna
happen) this is how it will end.
Giselle (you really need a new hobby)
Bo Raxo
"Sarah Monroe" <gmsp...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040609154356...@mb-m17.aol.com...
> >Ok Miss law expert, and what is the statute of limitations for perjury?
> >Maybe you should get a law degree before you post your clueless opinions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Steve, where is the perjury? OJ never took the stand. The only thing he
said
> was "100% not guilty". Can't charge somebody for a not guilty.
>
Except he did take the stand. In the civil case. Days and days on the
stand.
However, I'm pretty sure the staute of limitations ran out on that. Too
busy to look it up, but IIRC in California it's three years.
And besides, OJ would just claim the police planted those hairs, along with
the blood. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he claimed the victims
committed suicide, it would be no less audacious than the bull he's been
shoveling about this from day one.
Volfie "Gen. Disarray" Jackson
"Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sarah Monroe" <gmsp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040609154356...@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > >Ok Miss law expert, and what is the statute of limitations for perjury?
> > >Maybe you should get a law degree before you post your clueless
opinions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Steve, where is the perjury? OJ never took the stand. The only thing
he
> said
> > was "100% not guilty". Can't charge somebody for a not guilty.
> >
>
> Except he did take the stand. In the civil case. Days and days on the
> stand.
>
He was found guilty in that trial. What do you all want? For him to be
found "Super duper to the nth power guilty"?
> However, I'm pretty sure the staute of limitations ran out on that. Too
> busy to look it up, but IIRC in California it's three years.
It doesn't matter.
> And besides, OJ would just claim the police planted those hairs, along
with
> the blood. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he claimed the victims
> committed suicide, it would be no less audacious than the bull he's been
> shoveling about this from day one.
Ah, finally. Someone is getting it.
Giselle (sort of)
Bo Raxo
"Volfie "Gen. Disarray" Jackson" <vol...@ccrtc.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
> news:ljMxc.27331$Tn6....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
>
> found "Super duper to the nth power guilty"?
No, he was found liable in that trial. Civil case, remember.
Liable isn't guilty. What do I want? For him to be spending his life in
prison.
>
> > However, I'm pretty sure the staute of limitations ran out on that. Too
> > busy to look it up, but IIRC in California it's three years.
>
> It doesn't matter.
Oh yes it does. If you convicted him of perjury, he would do *some* time
in prison (possibly). That would make me somewhat less bitter about this
case.
>
> > And besides, OJ would just claim the police planted those hairs, along
> with
> > the blood. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he claimed the victims
> > committed suicide, it would be no less audacious than the bull he's been
> > shoveling about this from day one.
>
> Ah, finally. Someone is getting it.
>
> Giselle (sort of)
>
Yes, well, the hair guy thinks finding OJ's DNA at the crime scene would
convince his supporters of his guilt. Hello, we already have his DNA at the
crime scene, and the victim's DNA in his vehicle. You could have found OJ's
wallet lodged in Nicole's throat wound, and it still wouldn't sway his
supporters.
Bo Raxo
MIRSE
>From: "Volfie \"Gen. Disarray\" Jackson" vol...@ccrtc.com
>Message-id: <10cev1u...@corp.supernews.com>
>Oh, pulllleeezze! You've been hawking this theory like snake-oil FOREVER.
>You are one of those people who will never change their minds from your
>favorite theory no matter what happens.
*********
I find it fascinating that you can predict what people will think if
Mitochondrial DNA tests are done on the hairs in the cap and the tests prove
that they belong to someone in the Simpson case.
Still, if as you say, no one will change his /her mind about the Simpson
case whatever the Mitochondrial DNA tests will show, then let us do the tests
and see what comes up.
Question: Are you saying above that Mitochondrial DNA tests is the same as
snake oil?
Do you realize that Mitochondrial DNA tests have convicted persons in trials
and have been used to identify dead bodies where nuclear DNA tests could not be
used?
Mitochondrial DNA is not snake oil.
And as technology improves day after day thanks to breath-taking advances
in computer technology, Mitochondrial DNA tests are getting better and better.
mi...@aol.com
Bo Raxo
Oh yes, all that DNA from OJs blood and both victim's blood didn't convince
'em. But mitochondrial DNA will.
Uh, news flash: some people believe the police planted evidence. They'll
just continue to claim this.
MIRSE
>Date: 6/9/2004 10:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20040609223054...@mb-m20.aol.com>
"The development and acceptance of Mitochondrial DNA tests in the court room
and elsewhere has come a long way in the 10 years since the Simpson trial, when
such DNA tests were in their infancy.
A quick search at google will show a person how Mitochondrial DNA tests are
becoming accepted more and more each day.
For instance, below is an except from an article about how Howard University,
a famous black university in Washington, D.C. is turning to DNA tests like
Mitochrondrial DNA tests to trace the background of Africans in this country.
See the end of the article, where Mitochrondial DNA tests are mentioned.
*********
NOT LONG AGO, an African American trying to trace his or her genealogy came up
against a seemingly insurmountable obstacle: slavery. Even if a person's
ancestry could be traced back through the slave years in this country, it was
considered virtually impossible to determine where in Africa one's family
originated.
However, science is now solving the riddles of the past. Some time next year
Howard University plans to begin offering genetic testing so Americans of
African ancestry can determine where on the continent their ancestors came
from. In the meantime, Cambridge University Press, North America, is now
offering a CD-ROM containing the records of two-thirds of all slave ship
voyages.
World's Largest West African Data Base
Howard University, a historically black college in Washington, D.C., has
assembled the largest collection of DNA records from West and Central Africa in
the world, some 3,800 samples in all. The collection concentrates on ethnic
groups in areas where most slaves in the United States came from.
Howard University has assembled the largest collection of DNA records from West
and Central Africa in the world, some 3,800 samples in all
Most blacks brought to the U.S. came from what are now Nigeria, Benin, Togo,
Ghana, and Sierra Leone, all of which are in West Africa. Smaller numbers came
from Senegal, the Gambia, the Congo River basin, and Angola.
When they came to the U.S., the groups of Africans were dispersed, and mixed
with other ethnic groups, so they usually quickly lost their tribal
connections.
African Americans With European Ancestry
The collection also includes various European, Native American, and Asian
samples for comparison. Researchers point out that many African Americans will
also indicate European ancestry, while others may also have Native American
blood.
The project will be set up to test either mitochondrial DNA, which is passed
from mother to child, and the Y chromosome, which is handed down from father to
son."
Steve Sullivan
"Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote:
> Oh yes, all that DNA from OJs blood and both victim's blood didn't convince
> 'em. But mitochondrial DNA will.
>
> Uh, news flash: some people believe the police planted evidence. They'll
> just continue to claim this.
Well is the claim that 2 viles of blood missing in dispute? If 2 viles
were indeed missing, it does not seem unfathomable that the police did
try to frame OJ.
Steve Sullivan
gmsp...@aol.com (Sarah Monroe) wrote:
> >Ok Miss law expert, and what is the statute of limitations for perjury?
> >Maybe you should get a law degree before you post your clueless opinions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Steve, where is the perjury? OJ never took the stand. The only thing he said
> was "100% not guilty". Can't charge somebody for a not guilty.
Hi Sarah. I didnt follow the OJ case. My point was the original poster
wanted this to be done so OJ could be charged with Perjury. The OP is
obviously very clueless since even if he did testify about it, being 10
years ago it would be well past the statute of limitations.
Steve Sullivan
"Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote:
> Except he did take the stand. In the civil case. Days and days on the
> stand.
>
> However, I'm pretty sure the staute of limitations ran out on that. Too
> busy to look it up, but IIRC in California it's three years.
>
> And besides, OJ would just claim the police planted those hairs, along with
> the blood. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if he claimed the victims
> committed suicide, it would be no less audacious than the bull he's been
> shoveling about this from day one.
You cant CANT CANT CANT blame people if 2 viles of blood was in fact
missing (again I didnt follow the case so I have no idea). Even if he
was framed, I would think the police were framing the guilty person, and
were just trying to ensure he would be convicted, which backfired
(again, I didnt follow the case, that is just hypothetical.)
Bo Raxo
"Steve Sullivan" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
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Not sure. My problem with trying to frame OJ is the time frame: it would
have to start right away, with a whole bunch of cops who didn't know each
other all that well, and before they knew if he had an alibi. Either that
glove at Rockingham was planted, or it wasn't. If it was, 30 or so cops were
in on it and agreed before they knew where he was. If it wasn't, then he's
just so goddamn obviously guilty - without fancy DNA tests - that nobody
would bother to plant anything.
The planting theory - FOR THIS CASE - is pathentically weak.
But the reputation of the LAPD - who lie, beat people, plant evidence, and
protect their own - is also pathetically weak.
The two collide, well, we saw which one "won".
Sarah Monroe
GMS asks,,
>> Steve, where is the perjury? OJ never took the stand. The only thing he
>said
>> was "100% not guilty". Can't charge somebody for a not guilty.
Steve replies..
>Hi Sarah. I didnt follow the OJ case. My point was the original poster
>wanted this to be done so OJ could be charged with Perjury. The OP is
>obviously very clueless since even if he did testify about it, being 10
>years ago it would be well past the statute of limitations.
>
>
Back then it seemed like the whole country was glued to Court TV on the OJ
case. I had to work all day so had to be content with reports on the news and
from people who did watch it all day.
Sarah Monroe
> I find it fascinating that you can predict what people will think if
>Mitochondrial DNA tests are done on the hairs in the cap and the tests prove
>that they belong to someone in the Simpson case.
snipped
But what does it matter now? Even if they were OJ's hairs, he can't be
retried. And he certainly doesn't care what people think and neither does
Johnny Cochran. A total waste of time and money.
Aussie Lurker
The claim about 2 vials of blood missing is incorrect. Thano Peratis, the
male nurse from the LA PD drew 7.9 - 8.1 cc (cubic centimeters). The
prosecution could only account for approx 6.5 cc. Thano was recovering from
coronary bypass surgery during the trial and he became quite alarmed that
the defence were basing their framing theory on the missing 1.5 cc of blood.
He ran some tests with his supervisor and found that it was approx. 6 - 7 cc
that he would have drawn.
The DA's office sent people to get statements and spoke to technicians to
see what would be the norm it was determined that the norm was approx 5 - 7
cc. It was also noted that there will be some blood that can't be accounted
for as it sticks to the pipette and test tubes.
Aussie Lurker
Robert Lee
> Oh yes it does. If you convicted him of perjury, he would do *some*
> time in prison (possibly). That would make me somewhat less bitter
> about this case.
This whole argument is moot, because nobody's going to do a bunch of
hideously expensive genetic tests just to try to prove the guy guilty of
*perjury,* even if the statute of limitations hasn't run out.
I decided a while back to just stop being pissed off about OJ. Every day
brings fresh horrors and outrages, and sometimes you gotta rotate the
stock and move on.
--
--Robert
"I did once get him to admit the beauty of Bembo," he adds, "a serif."
Robert Lee
> My problem with trying to frame OJ is the time frame
My problem with it is that like most conspiracy theories lots of people
buy into (JFK, 9/11, whatever), it's idiotically complex and couldn't
possibly have stayed any kind of secret.
The guy killed his ex and her boyfriend. Anybody who isn't self-deluded
figures that as the safest bet. The cops fucked up in some ways that left
them wide open, and the state seriously blew the case. So...he's never
going to be called to task for what he did.
In the meantime, though, the guy's got no real career and never will
again and apparently lives off the good graces of friends and supporters,
these days, dodging as best he can the financial judgement against him
from the civil trial.
...and that's OJ's life, for the rest of his life.
Life does have ways of paying people back who skate on their legal just
desserts, sometimes. Try and imagine this man's abject terror on his
deathbed. Hell, try to imagine how well he *sleeps.* I often wonder what,
exactly goes on between him and his kids with Nicole.
Yeah, I think he should have gone to jail, but it's not like he got away
clean, exactly, and...sometimes good enough has to be good enough.
Volfie "Gen. Disarray" Jackson
"Robert Lee" <cranch...@earthpiddlydiddlydoolink.poop.net.peepee> wrote
in message news:Xns9504712D2F4...@207.217.125.202...
> "Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in
> news:dRMxc.27368$Tn6....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > Oh yes it does. If you convicted him of perjury, he would do *some*
> > time in prison (possibly). That would make me somewhat less bitter
> > about this case.
>
> This whole argument is moot, because nobody's going to do a bunch of
> hideously expensive genetic tests just to try to prove the guy guilty of
> *perjury,* even if the statute of limitations hasn't run out.
>
> I decided a while back to just stop being pissed off about OJ. Every day
> brings fresh horrors and outrages, and sometimes you gotta rotate the
> stock and move on.
>
> --
> --Robert
MIRSE has been harping on this DNA test one-note forEVER now. It's sad,
really. S/he seems incapable of moving on no. At this point, I doubt even
the test being performed would satisfy MIRSE.
Giselle (I bet people avoid MIRSE like a plague at parties and
get-togethers)
Tom
> "Steve Sullivan" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
> news:none-8FCFB2.2...@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
> > In article <J3Qxc.8450$uX2....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > "Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oh yes, all that DNA from OJs blood and both victim's blood didn't
> convince
> > > 'em. But mitochondrial DNA will.
> > >
> > > Uh, news flash: some people believe the police planted evidence.
> They'll
> > > just continue to claim this.
> >
> > Well is the claim that 2 viles of blood missing in dispute? If 2 viles
> > were indeed missing, it does not seem unfathomable that the police did
> > try to frame OJ.
>
The defense claims there were 1.5 mils of blood missing , not two
viles. And that is due to the fact that the guy who drew the blood
first stated he used one size test tube, then possibly another size.
Bottom line: It's a load of shit, just something to create a stir, a
diversion , cast some bullshit conspiracy theory. It ,and nothing
else, will ever change the fact that 5 drops of blood were collected
at the walkway of the crime scene , taken to the lab and without any
doubt were the bastards blood. It was collected before Simpson
returned from Chicago, obviously before they ever withdrew his blood
sample. The whole planting thing is pure BS, no evidence at trail ever
proved that other evidence in the case was contaminated either , they
inferred it, never proved it, the defense cited the labs as poor using
cases from years prior. By the way, these same guys on the defense, if
a different case, would sing the praises of DNA and labs , it depends
who signs their checks. And as for defense expert Henry Lee, he was
shown a picture of the scene and pointed to a "second " footprint , "
something is wrong " etc, inferring that there was more than one
killer. The footprint he talked about was imbedded in the cement, not
a fresh bloody one, and had been there for years ! He wasn't at the
crime scene. Lee also refused to take part in Simpson'd defense at the
civil trail, saying that the defense in the criminal trial
misrepresented his findings. As for Furhman , 16 others were all on
the scene before him , all saw only one glove. He didn 't know Lang or
Van Adder. None of them at that time knew where Simpson was. All of
these people would have had to get together, on the spur of the moment
, introduce themselves to each other, decide they all wanted to frame
Simpson, without a clue as to his whereabouts, concoct a plan to set
him up. This plan would then ultimately , at a later date, have to
include civilians and police at different labs- people who they also
did not know ! This also means they would then run the risk of finding
out they just framed someone who could prove they were in another
country for the past two weeks, they had no clue where he was while
they supposedly thought up their plan ! It doesn't get any stupider
than that, absolutely preposterous and ridiculous. Only a moron could
go for that . Not to mention the fresh gash on his finger , he didn't
know when he did it, the limo driver couldn't get him at home while
the murders were going on, his Bronco was missing, and he says he was
home waiting for the limo ! Remember the bloody footprints,found at
the crime scene, his size shoe made by a shoe called Bruno Magli's ?
Something like 300 existed in the entire US, a handful sold in his
area. He said he would never be seen in a pair of those " ugly ass
shoes ". Yet there he was, wearing them in a picture shown at the
civil trial.There are many many more examples.Anyone who wants to
believe him or the frame up nonsense, etc ,well they really aren't
worth discussing this with, it's childish. Other than a videotape of
the actual murders, this jury had so much irrefutable evidence they
could and should have convicted him in 2 minutes. But after seeing
them interviewed on TV, they couldn't find their asses with both
hands. Some were obviously very biased, others extremely ignorant and
some just plain liars when saying what the evidence showed.People make
remarks without knowing the facts of the case and like, jury members,
are ignorant of the truth.The piece of shit will never admit his
guilt, it's irrelevant now. Anyone with an IQ above a bowl of
scrambled eggs knows he's guilty, knows there was no massive
conspiracy and coverup. No sense getting angry day after day, it's
over, done with, and somehow I don't think he's living a happy
life--he has low-life friends, those celebity types shun him, no
country clubs will have him,nowhere near the life he led, getting
drunk and high with skells in shitholes most of the time.In time, if
not already , his poor kids will realize the truth, then walk away.
You never hear a word about his oldest son right ? Don't waste your
energy hoping something will change, it won't , the trial's over.
Anyone who wants to think Fuhrman concocted a massive scheme in the
blink of an eye, let them , it's pure stupidity. He doesnt need his
name cleared, he seems to be doing quite well, ask Martha Moxley's
mother. Good for him.
Michael Snyder
>
> GMS asks,,
>
> >> Steve, where is the perjury? OJ never took the stand. The only thing
he
> >said
> >> was "100% not guilty". Can't charge somebody for a not guilty.
>
> Steve replies..
> >Hi Sarah. I didnt follow the OJ case. My point was the original poster
> >wanted this to be done so OJ could be charged with Perjury. The OP is
> >obviously very clueless since even if he did testify about it, being 10
> >years ago it would be well past the statute of limitations.
> >
> >
>
> Back then it seemed like the whole country was glued to Court TV on the OJ
> case. I had to work all day so had to be content with reports on the news
and
> from people who did watch it all day.
Yeah, the single occasion when I got to watch it
was when I was on jury duty! ;-)
Michael Snyder
"Robert Lee" <cranch...@earthpiddlydiddlydoolink.poop.net.peepee> wrote
in message news:Xns9504712D2F4...@207.217.125.202...
> news:dRMxc.27368$Tn6....@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > Oh yes it does. If you convicted him of perjury, he would do *some*
> > time in prison (possibly). That would make me somewhat less bitter
> > about this case.
>
> This whole argument is moot, because nobody's going to do a bunch of
> hideously expensive genetic tests just to try to prove the guy guilty of
> *perjury,* even if the statute of limitations hasn't run out.
I could see somebody doing it. Closure, you know...
It's like if you were offered the one-time chance to go back
in time and see if Napoleon really kept his hand in his vest,
or Jesus really turned water into wine...
MIRSE
>Date: 6/11/2004 10:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <Fdjyc.16274$Fo4.2...@typhoon.sonic.net>
On jury duty? Did you find the person guilty or not guilty?
Can you share with us some of the details of the arguments/discussions that
you and the other jurors had before you came to your final decision? Thanks.
mi...@aol.com
Michael Snyder
Yeah, what channel to watch. I was never seated on a jury, I just sat
around in a big room waiting for a couple of days.
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Greg Carr
> I think everyone gets it, but the truth will always be sought out, and usually has a way of coming out anyway. I think the big question is would mitrochondrial Dna possibly be Jason Simpson's hair, and if so, did the police plant it, and grab his sons hat not knowing, or was his son the killer, or possibly both did it. It's not something I dwell on, but I would like to see where it leads. I'm sure the victims parents would still like to know if O.J. is not responsible, then there is a killer still out out there, possibly the serial killer that was proven to be partying with Nicole in the months before they were killed.there is thousands of questions still, and people aren't going to shut up until they get those answers. Remember D.B. Cooper? The Alcatraz escape, they finally found out that they had been living in Belize, I believe. Just saying it will come sooner or later. Dueces!