Belgium:Regina Louf&Art Dealer Axel Vervoordt
nan
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THE CASTLE, THE SEQUENCE
By Jan Portein
July 2002 we published on this site "The Castle". The article
referenced, among other things, the visit Regina Louf (witness X I in
the Dutroux-case) had made to art dealer Axel Vervoordt's stately home
in 'sGravenwezel (Belgium), accompanied by police officers. Next to
this, the article contained a compilation of the email traffic between
the American art journalist Amy Page and us, where she spoke about the
pedophile activities by her close friend Axel Vervoordt. It took a
while, but since then we made contact with someone else who also had
knowledge about Vervoordt's sick activities. Again a female. Again a
member of the art world.
The Birthmark
1977. In Belgium the culture life and the art world were simultaneous
in the atmosphere of painter Peter Paul Rubens who was born in Siegen
(Germany) 400 years before. At the end of May that year part of the
celebrations in the city theatre (Stadsschouwburg) of Antwerp there
was a performance of the (Claudio Monte Verdi's) opera Orfeo.
After the play, a select part of the audience rushed to the huge
costumed banquet organized in the estate of interior decorator Walda
Pairon and her husband (a well known psychiatrist). The other host of
the party was a colleague of Walda and a contributor of the Flemish
Opera; at that time Axel Vervoordt was just started to become a rising
star in the art and antique world and consequently in the Belgian
upper class.
He had just bought Antwerp's centuries old Vlaeykesgang Street.
Insiders later explained that he unscrupulously chased away many
elderly people who lived in the little houses their whole lives. But
who cares if the little houses are restored in their old beauty and
are a jewel for the city again? Definitely not those 'exquisite'
society people who were assembled around the copious medieval party
tables of the Pairons and Vervoordt! A musical ensemble from Paris,
dressed in Rubens outfits as well, were flown in to entertain at this
costumed food party, and played pretentious [What? excellent recorder
music] Georg Philip Telemann (Germany) compositions. In the mean time
dancers from the Flemish Ballet were brought in for a more classical
ambiance.
The dinner, with among others [quales, guinea fowl, truffles, oyster
mushroom, lamb on a spinach] and very expensive wines, was served by
bold shaved black men who had chests shining with coconut oil. Little
black boys who stood in every corner of the hall, each holding a
hunting dog on a leash, also showed the love for ebony. This was not
only for aesthetic reasons but also for other purposes. This became
quite clear when the guests were throwing their bones (left over from
the delicious meat) over their shoulders on the floor. Growling, the
hunting dogs threw themselves on the bones, the little black boys were
being dragged along by the strong animals. The result was a wild and
laughing audience. The party people where consumed by the scene and
one of the male guests was even kissing one of the young boys full on
his lips, where after he left the boy almost paralyzed of fear
surrounded by the dogs. Some time later the mood and atmosphere among
the guests became a bit tense and a little aggressive. A few invitees
thought it was wiser to go home and they left early. Among them was
the very young Kristien Dieltiens and her boyfriend of those days, a
dancer of the Flemish Ballet who became later a well-known
choreographer.
Eccentric
Meanwhile Kristien Dieltiens became an excellent, well-known writer in
Belgium. The scene written in the above comes directly from her latest
novel 'The Birthmark', a fiction story about a mother and her daughter
who, both very young, became the victims of child abuse. Only the
description of the Rubens-diner seems to be reality.
E-mail exchange between Jan Portein and Kristien Dieltens revealing
shocking facts!
From: "jan" <j.po...@chello.nl>
To: "kristien dieltiens" <kdiel...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:33:32 +0100
Kristien,
Thanks for the tip. Can you tell me the name of the author, where and
when the book is being published? Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Jan Portein
----- Original Message -----
From: "kristien dieltiens" <kdiel...@hotmail.com>
To: <j.po...@chello.nl>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re:
Hi Jan,
I, myself, am the author, Kristien Dieltiens. The book is being
published by Clavis, and is almost sold out in Holland. Second
printing is also scheduled to be there this summer and was first
published eight months ago.
I attended a party as an onlooker (part of the furniture) and I wrote
about the ambience and what happened (A.V. [Axel Vervoordt] was one of
the hosts and present as well). I discovered that the truth couldn't
be written (told) so I'm being very careful. The book is a fictional
story where I write about, among other things, the indecency of some
people disguised under the pretext of 'we are artists'. In April I
will be interviewed about this subject in the Humanist (The
Netherlands). I want to survive as an author but at the same time I
would like to speak out on subjects that move me.
I'm prepared to continue our conversation.
Kristien
From: "jan" <j.po...@chello.nl>
To: "kristien dieltiens" <kdiel...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Axel
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:29:09 +0100
Hi Kristien,
In our preceding correspondence you told me, among other things, that
you've known Axel since 1974. He plays a (small) role in your book,
which has, as the main subject, pedophilia. How much did you know
about his pedophile activities? Were they just rumors and anecdotes?
Kind regards,
Jan Portein
----- Original Message -----
From: "kristien dieltiens" <kdiel...@hotmail.com>
To: <j.po...@chello.nl>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: axel
There was such an atmosphere of indecency that I was shocked in the
deepest part of my 20 year old soul. I felt compelled to come out one
day with what under the A of Art is acknowledged to pass borders into
a world of decadency where many things are accepted… what I felt
around specific people can't be proven… What I've seen made it
clear to me that everything is possible… There were many known
faces and 'great' artists… A man like A.V. [Axel Vervoordt] I've
known since 1974… The details I will never know… But the
greediness and a-moral ness of this man is huge… I knew him
mostly as an art lover who could climb the ladder very fast and who
was surrounded by jet setters who loved to be invited to one of his
famous parties. I've never seen that A [Axel] did something wrong but
it was widely accepted as one of the rarities of A [Axel]. It was
accepted because the people thought he was eccentric… I accuse
in my own way (in the book)… And already people from his social
class told me writing this was not a smart way to further my literary
career."
Regards,
Kristien
It would get worse! Kristien's book was planned to be published by the
Flemish publisher Lannoo, who, oh irony, has among their catalogue
listings the book "You get used to everything, even to an adult."
According Dieltiens the reactions to her script (a four year struggle)
were very positive and enthusiastic, until the manuscript ended up in
the hands of the lectors. They demanded that the writer should take
out the paragraph about the Rubens dinner party and a pedophile priest
who forced a Moroccan boy to partake in sexual activities. Of course
she refused and found a new publisher: Publishing house Clavis, who
introduced with great success, eight months ago "The Birthmark". Very
strange that Lannoo gave a potential success away to his competitor.
Something else can be the reason as well. Lannoo is being associated
with Dutch publisher Terra. Terra publishes beautiful and expensive
art and designers books. From time to time they review books
from… Walda Pairon and Axel Vervoordt about their Castles,
Gardens, Horses etc. Yes at Lannoo they must have known that the
Rubens Bacchanal in the novel of Dieltiens wasn't fiction but fact and
that the summary of those events must be right contrary to the
feelings of their best selling authors: Pairon and Vervoordt.
Business-wise… not very smart. So dear Mrs Kristien Dieltiens we
are very sorry; Change the contents or no deal. It's time to talk to
Lannoo!
You've got mail.
On February 11th we were sending Lannoo Publishers the next email:
"I'm a freelance journalist and it came to my attention that your
publishing house had an option on the manuscript of 'The Birthmark'
written by Kristien Dieltiens. Later you decided not to publish the
book and it's been published by publishing house Clavis in 2002. The
book received good reviews. Can you please tell me why you declined
your option? Was it because of the subject matter (the subject was
pedophilia) or was it for other reasons?
No answer.
On February 14th we were a bit severe.
"In the mean time I understand the scene of an extremely decadent
party and the written part of a priest who sexually molested a
Moroccan boy didn't please you. Was that one of the most important
reasons you cancelled the publishing of the book 'The Birthmark'. I
should like to know, within reasonable time, if this information is
right?"
No answer.
On February 18th we wrote our final email.
"This correspondence has been one-way traffic but I'll keep on trying.
In the recent past your publishing house has published several books
by and about Walda Pairon and Axel Vervoordt, both famous for their
in- and outside decoration design, and they know each other very well.
I know for sure that the subject of 'The Birthmark', as well as some
chapters and scenes in the book must have made Axel Vervoordt very
uncomfortable. Is this the reason for the negative advice your lectors
gave in the judgment of the manuscript of Mrs Diertiens?"
Again there is no answer. But in this case we think that the one who
keeps his silence is confessing. To keep silent about sexual abuse of
children is almost a tradition in the cultural society class of Axel
Vervoordt. It's possibly out of fear but probably out of
self-interest. To clarify our frustration about not getting an answer
we sent one more email. Not to Lannoo but to Kristien Dieltiens:
"October 20th 1996 was the first organized White Parade. 300,000
people were silently protesting. How is it possible that within the
circles you're describing in your book were pedophile activities
accepted as a way of eccentricity and nothing has been done about it?
Why weren't any public figures accused like Axel was, especially if it
was common knowledge? Or were there accusations and they've been
covered up?"
No answer.
Probably it's been too difficult for her to fight openly against child
abusers like Axel Vervoordt, who will be exhibiting triumphantly March
14th at the TEFAF in Maastricht, surrounded by his slimy art
colleagues.
Albert Einstein said:
" The world is too dangerous to live. Not because of the ones who are
harming. But because of the ones who sit by and watch and let it go."
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nan
> Same old Euro Decadence...
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> THE CASTLE, THE SEQUENCE
> By Jan Portein
>
> July 2002 we published on this site "The Castle". The article
> referenced, among other things, the visit Regina Louf (witness X I in
> the Dutroux-case) had made to art dealer Axel Vervoordt's stately home
> in 'sGravenwezel (Belgium), accompanied by police officers. Next to
> this, the article contained a compilation of the email traffic between
> the American art journalist Amy Page and us, where she spoke about the
> pedophile activities by her close friend Axel Vervoordt. It took a
> while, but since then we made contact with someone else who also had
> knowledge about Vervoordt's sick activities. Again a female. Again a
> member of the art world.
>
"Amy said."
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On 4 June 2001 we published a small part of a tape-recorded
conversation between art musketeer Michel van Rijn and the American
art reviewer, Amy Page. That piece had a bearing on one of the biggest
art dealers in the world, the Belgian Axel Vervoordt:
Amy: I mean, Axel is not a bad man.
: Beside the fact that he likes little boys, he's a nice guy.
Amy: No more.
: Oh, no more?
Amy : Not for years.
: He sees the light now?
Amy : Well, I mean Axel is changed. He became very much the pater
familias, you know.
: Well, I think there were lots of scandals in Belgium. So he can't
afford it, you know.
Amy : Yeah, but I know that, now that he's very much not doing that.
We asked the Vervoordt family for a response, without any success
until now. At first sight it appears that the owner of the limousine
accepted without complaint that the glimmering bodywork of his vehicle
had been seriously damaged with the bumper of an ordinary Lada. But we
are convinced that more has happened behind the screens, especially
since our publications on this matter were taken up on Van Rijn's
international and frequently visited site
(www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews), and the tape was sent to the Belgian
police.
To prevent the case from being quietly swept to the side as is usual,
we wrote an e-mail to Amy yesterday afternoon at 12:28h, which we also
allowed to settle on the desks of her two employers (The Art Newspaper
and Tableau Magazine) and her good friend Vervoordt. To leave nothing
to chance, the text reads:
"Dear miss Page,
I'm an investigative reporter of the Dutch internet-magazine Kleintje
Muurkrant. In that capacity I'd like to ask you some questions
regarding the case around Mr. Axel Vervoordt.
First, according to Mr. Van Rijn you first mentioned Mr. Vervoordt's
appetite for boys between six and twelve at a party specially
organised to your honour in "Harry's bar", a famous outfit in Rome, on
New Year's Eve 1996/1997. Afterwards the same information popped up in
several telephone conversations between you and Mr. Van Rijn until he
taped and published it. Do you affirm these revelations?
Second, has it ever occurred to you that according to the Belgian law
you should have warned the Belgian police authorities of Mr.
Vervoordt's criminal behaviour, abusing underage boys? If so, why
haven't you acted properly as soon as you came to know of Mr.
Vervoordt's horrible sexual activities?
Rgrds
Jan Portein ".
Yesterday at 14:45h Amy replied.
"Dear Mr. Portein,
This must be some sort of sick joke. I know nothing about the
allegations you suggest. Based on my knowledge of and friendship with
Mr. Vervoordt, I'm certain that such things could not possibly be
true.
Sincerely,
Amy Page".
"Sick" is correct, "joke" far from it. And that Amy should not have
become aware of the matter in over three weeks in most incredible. We
rather have the impression that Amy is feeling a precious Medieval
carpet slipping under her feet. To be continued.
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THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF AN ART-MUSKETEER
On the last update of his relentless attacks on the TEFAF, the
organisation that organises the annual art fair in Maastricht, Michel
van Rijn has now set his sights on one of the "founding members",
Robert Noortman. He is now bringing a couple of stains found on the
"coat of arms" of the art-dealer from Maastricht into the publicity.
Things like his as thick as thieves' friendship with former SSer Leon
Melchior, who helped finance Noortman's career throughout the years.
There is also attention given to Noortman's mother, who was supposedly
shot dead by her then youthful son Robert. His father worked for the
Federal Police and the bullets came from his duty pistol. Another
striking detail from Noortman's interesting past was his spending time
in a French jail for fraud.
Because we want to know all the juicy details of the matter we sent
Mr. Noortman the following e-mail:
...ask you some questions about the following information. Today on
Michel van Rijn's web site there is some incriminating information
about a couple of events which took place in your past..
Michel van Rijn gained this knowledge in the years that he worked with
the CID, and from what he found in the files of this service (
Questions in parliament about that connection to Minister Benk
Korthals), and also from his own tape recordings of conversations with
"tous le monde" in the art world.
First of all I would like to know if the dramatic death of your mother
was an accident or the fatal result of a fight between you and your
parents. The sources I found for this matter, after reading van Rijn's
new contribution to his "rubrique scandaleuse" are vague.
Furthermore I would like to know if you were jailed for fraud in the
Fren-prison in Paris as van Rijn published, and if so how long did
this unpleasant period last.
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John Stevens
> By Jan Portein
Very interesting post. I had not picked up on this particular
development. Jan Portein's internet site
http://www.stelling.nl/kleintje/ is a good site for picking up little
bits of gossip, and also occasional hard facts which are leaked to
them by Dutch journalists. But it is important, when consulting this
site, to separate out the little nuggets of information from the
mounds of speculation which acccompany each factoid, and is of
doubtful worth. Jan Portein is definitely receiving some form of news
feed from the Dutch anti-paedophile action group Zoeklicht, as well as
the Belgian action group Morkhoven.
Axel Vervoordt is definitely in the firing line so far as Jan Portein
and his colleagues are concerned, and quite rightly in my view. And
indeed the castle of Axel Vervoordt was tentatively identified by
Regina Louf (X1). But, as usual, there is a complication. Although it
pains me to jump to the defence of Axel Vervoordt, I think it should
be pointed out that behind the castle of Axel Vervoordt is another
castle, which is very similar, but which has (as far as I am aware)
never been visited by the Belgian authorities.
nan
Dear John Stevens,
It is Axel Vervoordt who is identified as being a paedophile and
organizing (elaborate entertainment!) orgies in his castle. Is there
a connection between Nihoul and Vervoordt? The Belgian authorities
are quite dense to say the least.
Or dense to a purpose. Regina Louf has more credibility than the
incompetant Belgian investigators who dismiss her testimony.
Regards, from Nan
nan
Dear John Stevens,
Evidently Axel Vervoordt (and Robin Symes) have "bad" reputations in
certain
art circles - www.rijn.com/art news. Belgium royalty consults with
the ultimate in decorious style Axel Vervoordt for decor improvement
ideas. According to Rijn, the King and Albert share in Vervoordt's
taste in "mounting" boys, not just mounting paintings. Also, VanRijn
refers to the Belgium police having a file on Vervoordt's paedophiliac
propensity.
Someone wrote that if the TRUTH came out about the Belgian child sex
trade, the involvement of and protection of elite society, etc, it
would destroy Belgium (re: NATO, etc.)
Regards, from Nan
Alan Hope
>Dear John Stevens,
>Evidently Axel Vervoordt (and Robin Symes) have "bad" reputations in
>certain
>art circles - www.rijn.com/art news.
Does that URL work for anybody?
>Belgium royalty consults with
>the ultimate in decorious style Axel Vervoordt for decor improvement
>ideas. According to Rijn, the King and Albert share in Vervoordt's
>taste in "mounting" boys, not just mounting paintings.
Who is this King they're talking about, if not Albert? Do you have a
proper cite a person can use?
>Also, VanRijn
>refers to the Belgium police having a file on Vervoordt's paedophiliac
>propensity.
Where? Where does he refer to this?
>Someone wrote that if the TRUTH came out about the Belgian child sex
>trade, the involvement of and protection of elite society, etc, it
>would destroy Belgium (re: NATO, etc.)
Who wrote that? You've only been on the case for about a week. Have
you forgotten already?
--
AH
Sarah Monroe
>>certain
>>art circles - www.rijn.com/art news.
>
>Does that URL work for anybody?
>
Something comes up but ot has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
Gms
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president... is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt
http://gmspider.com/GGHome.htm
aka formica63
>Someone
Who?
> wrote that if the TRUTH came out about the Belgian child sex
>trade, the involvement of and protection of elite society, etc, it
>would destroy Belgium (re: NATO, etc.)
Why?
Form.
Alan Hope
>>>Evidently Axel Vervoordt (and Robin Symes) have "bad" reputations in
>>>certain
>>>art circles - www.rijn.com/art news.
>>Does that URL work for anybody?
>Something comes up but ot has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
That's what I thought.
You know, if I were engineering a cover-up, I'd engage nan to denounce
the cover-up, knowing her advocacy would kill all suspicion
stone-dead. People would be like, "She's nuts. This story has no
validity." Hey presto! Instant cover-up.
--
AH
Alan Hope
>Nan:
>>Someone
>Who?
>Why?
Why indeed. One wonders what they'd put in its place. A lake? An area
of rain-forest?
--
AH
zam
"Alan Hope" wrote
Nah. A big fuck-me enormous shopping mall.
Is this happening then? Cheers, nan.
nan
www.michelvanrijn.com art news (can't believe you couldn't find
it!)
Everyone, I mean EVERYONE, should be more concerned about the
implications of VanRijn's interview with Amy Page, and what VR has
exposed with connections of Nihoul and Vervoordt (who has exquisite
expertise in "romantic midieval purity"!!!) It's NOT about me, for F's
sake! It's about the sadistic child sex abuse, exploitation, etc. in
Belguim as well as it is widespread throughout Europe.
I can't believe you behave with outrage toward ME!!! When it f'ing
things that are happening to to innocent, vulnerable children
throughout the world, you decadent, pompous son of bitch! I'm too
disgusted to care if this post has serious misdemeanor misspellings
and syntax crimes. CRIPE! Values, VALUES!!!
from Nan
nan
Where in Belgium do you live that you can bury your head in the sand?
www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews/archives/june2001.htm Don't dare say
that year 2001 is old news! It's recent history - as recent as the
Dutroux case.
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hit dead man walking
Update 29 06 2001
TEFAF Founder Robert Noortman..."Killer on the Road"
TEFAF Schloss Exhibitor and (according to some of his best friends)
pedophyle Axel Vervoordt...
"Axel in Wonderland" click here
TEFAF 1998, about stolen art from the Jews!
http://www.michelvanrijn.com/UK_8_001_05.htm
TEFAF 2000, about stolen art from Africa!
http://www.michelvanrijn.com/03.htm
TEFAF 2001, about stolen art from Italy!
http://www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews/artnws04.htm
Don't miss TEFAF 2002, about stolen art from...?
Where the carcase is, there shall be the eagles gathered together.
Meet the Sponsors of the TEFAF - click here
Go to the Art News Index
hit dead man walking
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Paintings stolen from Jews, painted in blood, exhibited at the TEFAF
1998
As it stands today no participating member, nor The European Fine Art
Fair (TEFAF) Committee, apologized to the Jewish community for this
incredible faux-pas. Van Rijn started a war and exposed the guilty
parties on his web site! Arrogantly they ignored the devastating
facts, only to exhibit stolen Nigerian Grave Art*, stolen
Pre-Colombian artefacts, and stolen Chinese and Mediterranean
antiquities in the years that followed.
Van Rijn exposed TEFAF time after time in the press! You would think
that they would have apologized by now. Forget it! They are the
World's Art Elite, a kind of Über Menschen. “Together
Strong”, and above the law, above any standards of decency and
humanity.
Today it's a war between them and Van Rijn. No prisoners will be
taken. The cowards are waiting for the outcome of the Adam Williams
trial in Paris (see www.artcult.com/news93.htm), hoping that it will
more or less fall in their favor.
But, mostly, what these bastards are really hoping for is to escape
justice once again, and to avoid paying damages to their victims. As
long as nobody has the balls to take responsibility, I will make life
for the founders, the exhibitors, the committee, etc impossible. It's
a walkover. There are more skeletons hidden among these pillars of
society, than there are stars in the sky.
Therefore, Today is T-Day... TEFAF Day ... Their Day!
Let's go for their throats. Would you buy a second-hand painting from
this man?
Some people seem to be willing to do so!
Quote: "Noortman's has been proud to provide paintings to
international private collections as well as major museums, world
wide. These museums include the Rijksmuseum; the Mauritshuis; the
National Gallery, London; the National Gallery, Washington; the
Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York City; the J. Paul Getty Museum;
the Rubenshuis; and the Tel Aviv Museum, amongst others." Unquote.
But there are other background noises, too ...
* February 16 or 17, 1987: Burglary of Noortman Art Gallery in
Maastricht, the NETHERLANDS. Nine European paintings (including Renoir
and Pisarro) valued at US$ 1 million were carried off. Thieves entered
through a non-alarmed rear, round window. No guards or alarms. No
recovery till today!
Let's start with this founding member of The European Fine Art Fair,
to better define and understand the widely boasted high morals set at
such an art fair. Robert Noortman, son of a policeman in Purmerend
village, in North Holland, shot and killed his mother with his
father's pistol when a teenager.' Nice! No?
Founding members Tefaf
After this incident, little Noortman set out to explore the world. He
didn't get far and was caught in a department store in Paris where
night after night he had had himself to emerge the next day outside
with his loot. Today this department store has been converted into the
prestigious Louvre des Antiquaires. Was it a sign? Who knows, but
Noortman did considerable time in a French prison for fraud, together
with infamous COBRA Art forger, Hendrik Ernste.
As soon as Noortman was released he picked up his old life style and
headed back to Holland. Life was tough on him and he scraped by
peddling artistic junk, like imitation Persian carpets, and other such
bric a brac .
Noortman also made use of calibrating painting machines at Fairs
(re-assembled from old washing machines). Visitors could create their
own ‘masterpiece' by putting a piece of paper on a rotating
wheel and dripping paint on it while it spun. However, this artistic
performance brought in only a pittance. And by that time Noortman was
a heavy boozer and had ballooned to almost 300 lbs.
He had a serious heart scare before he had to make a decision about
the 'rest' of his life. Having by then acquired some considerable
experience with paint and fairs, Noortman decided to go in for the
kill, again? ;-). He dried out and reinvented himself in the south of
Holland where he was still unknown. There he managed to make
acquaintance (muck drifts to muck) with fabulously, wealthy former
nazi Leon Melchior*, and the two, who had an instant liking for each
other, decided to team up.
With Melchior’s money and connections (sound familiar …
like Odessa's alte kameraden?) he started to cut a niche for himself
in the art world. Having experience with ground fairs, Noortman would
later become one of the founding members of the TEFAF in it's present
form. Who says crime doesn't pay?
What Freud might have said, ‘... Hey, Robbie if you hadn’t
shot your mom you wouldn't have had to spend all this dinero on a
substitute'.
Pravda. RU: Main: More in detail
12:22 2000-12-15
LOVE AT FIRST PRICE
She was just a little old lady, a rather homely one at that, and he
was already married, but for Dutch art dealer Robert Noortman, it was
love at first sight. So he bought her for $28.7 million. It was a
world record price for a Rembrandt painting, but Noortman wanted the
"Portrait of a Lady" so badly that he was willing to pay nearly $22
million more than the auctioneers at Christie's in London thought she
was worth. "Portrait of a Lady," signed and dated by Rembrandt in
1632, was part of a sale of a huge collection assembled by the late
Baroness Batsheva de Rothschild. But what Robert Noortman saw
transcended the ordinary masterpiece, if there is such a thing. "There
is such feeling in it that you fall in love with the old lady just
looking at it," he said. "I fell in love with her even though she's
meant to be 62 - and my wife didn't mind."
http://www.artnet.com/noortman.html?M=1
Axel's boys!
Axel Vervoordt, dealer in Schloss Art, has been accused by his house
guest, Amy Page*, of fucking and raping young boys. During a visit to
my house in Rome, Amy told me that Axel's favourite boys were aged
between 6 and 12. Now that I have evidence from Amy on tape telling me
about Axel's hobby, I guess you don't want to be seen dead in the
company of such a predacious paedophile, unless of course you share
the same hobby as this low-life. If it wasn’t for the work of
alert and hard-hitting investigative journalist, Jan Portein, these
serious allegations might have faded into oblivion.
see also this page
About witness Regina Louf (witness X1), who pointed towards Axel
Vervoordt's castle.
www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Regina+Louf+dutroux
The Vervoordts’ comment:
A castle-dweller from 's-Gravenwezel replied laconically, “We
heard on Tuesday of the murder story in the castle for the first time.
Sir, we’re bent over laughing.” Meanwhile the detectives
are already in the castle looking for comparisons to the X1 story. The
resident continues, “Our castle appears regularly in the news
because we hold open houses. Thousands of people could describe this
place. This castle has appeared in numerous publications. The press
have covered it in dozens of stories. Maybe a mythomaniac like X1 used
it to locate one of her stories in our castle.”
Our Comment: We don't see what’s so funny about the Dutroux
case!
www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/3877/Dutroux.html
Throughout the middle ages the castle of 's-Gravenwezel, ten miles
outside Antwerp, was a stop for the crusading knights. Now the
drawbridge is being let down for butt-lovers.
www.antiques-world.com/antiqant/Vervoordt/HomeFR.html
www.artnet.com/GalHome/FineArtHomePage.asp?CMD=DoGal&GID=900
Notes
* Leon Melchior, financial backbone of Noortman Galleries, joined the
Waffen SS in 1943, fought on the Russian front in 1944, and received
further training in Bavaria to become an SS officer. Incarcerated and
convicted after the war, he was stripped of his Dutch citizenship
rights for ten years and became a Belgian citizen in 1974. Melchior
was honoured 10 years ago by the Belgian government for his
achievements in horse-breeding. Mr. Simon Wiesenthal reacted furiously
on the record.
www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=leon+melchior+horse+breeding
* Amy Page, former Editor in Chief of Art & Auction Magazine, writes
today, amongst others, for the prestigious The Art Newspaper and
Tableau Magazine.
http://www.theartnewspaper.com/news/article.asp?idart=5530
* Nazi scout Silvano Lodi was exposed by Maurice Rheims of the French
Academy of Letters in the television program “Haute
Curiosité” for France II”, Mr. Lodi tried to clear his
name in court, but lost the case of course.
* Maastricht 2000. The Nigerian government, in collaboration with the
Dutch Police, seized stolen and illegally smuggled Nok Art at the
TEFAF. Michel van Rijn was instrumental in locating these and other
stolen works of the same nature. Criminal proceedings are pending
against the art dealer and vetting member of the TEFAF, Scumbag, Emile
Deletaille. Of course, the TEFAF being an all white affair, nobody
even thought of apologizing to the black community for completely
disrespecting the Ancestor Culture of Nigeria and the pillaging of
their graves.
The Art Newspaper:
Nok sculptures were seized from a Belgian dealer at the TEFAF in
Maastricht. In March, Nigerian authorities took legal action which led
to the impounding of five works from the stand of Lin & Emile
Deletaille. The matter is now expected to go before the Maastricht
court.
www.allemandi.com/TAN/news/article.asp?idart=1776
www.icom.org/redlist/english/page01.htm
Freight Train, Freight Train, going so fast ...
1998. Remember standing at the Fair. Remember! Standing at what looked
at first sight like a Shangri La, and how, because of all the
self-indulgent … oh so important people … who were
screaming over each other, it was almost impossible to hear the
whispers of the children of the past. The children we thought had long
vanished.
If you paid good attention, though, in the busy stands of Axel
Vervoordt, Jack Kilgore, Salomon (Woody) Lilian, Silvano Lodi, Galerie
De Jonckheere, the noises were there.
Strange! It didn't sound like laughter, neither did I hear happy
sounds of play. Their little voices came across broken and hurt, like
the delicate antiquities captured in a showcase. I turned and when I
stopped looking at the paintings – stolen from the Jews during
the Holocaust – suddenly I could hear the children more clearly!
There was a message after all. I wanted to convince myself and
declined a glass of champagne being offered me. It was the
heart-rending cries of children begging for their parents while being
driven into the gas chambers ... Their bodies resembling discarded rag
dolls were burned in the ovens. Only a few visitors paid attention.
And you could see their faces turn to ash.
Devastated we turned away, to the exit doors. We walked on cobble
stones where not so long ago little legs had stumbled to keep up with
soldiers’ boots. Then we couldn't take the grief anymore and we
ran towards the river! We stopped at the barbed wire surrounding a
bridge under construction. We stopped where small legs had been broken
by brutal hands. Looking down to the dark waters of the Maas below us
... our tears rippling on the surface. The memories of
children’s faces with hollow eyes mirrored back at us.
Then suddenly something changed, the turmoil of tears below us turned
into a mirror of calmness and broke into a thousand smiles. Then ...
their faces faded. And so did the waves of laughter. Some of us wanted
to jump. Was it in despair or to be with their loved ones? The
waterfall started to cry ... We stared, we waited not knowing what to
do. 'They can finally sleep', we comforted each other before going our
separate ways. The children didn't have a train to catch ... Not any
more ...
IN MEMORY - A HOLOCAUST PRAYER
Written by Alexander Kimel - a Holocaust Survivor.
Prayer for the Children:
Almighty God, full of Mercy remember the generation of Jewish children
that were reared for slaughter. Reared for slaughter. Remember the
multitudes of children, who in their short lives never experienced
joy, knowing only hunger, deprivation and fear. Almighty God, open our
hearts to the plight of the deprived and hungry children of today. By
helping them, we shall keep the memory of the perished alive. Amen.
Prayer for the Mothers:
Almighty God, full of Love, remember all the Jewish mothers, that
carried their babies to their execution, led their children to the gas
chambers, witnessed their burning, poisoned them with cyanide, or
killed them with their own hands. Almighty God, let their anguish,
pain and torture never be forgotten. Never be forgotten. In our memory
they will live forever and ever. Amen.
Prayer for the Elders:
Almighty God, full of Compassion, remember the plight of the Elders,
the Sages and Rabbis of Israel, who instead of teaching people how to
live in peace, had to teach them how to die with dignity. Ruler of the
Universe, fill our hearts with compassion toward the Elders, the
infirm and the sick of today. By helping them to live in peace and die
with dignity, we shall honor the memory of those who perished. Amen.
Prayer for the Unknown Heroes:
Almighty God full of Wisdom, remember all the forgotten and
unrecognized heroes of Israel, who knowingly and willingly sacrificed
their lives, for the sake of others. In our hearts they will live
forever and ever. Amen. Ruler of the Universe, open our hearts to the
plight of the displaced and discarded members of our society, victims
of the downsizing and reorganizations. People, who in silence bear the
crushing burden, fear and despair of their collapsed world. By helping
them, we will honor the memory of the unknown heroes of the Holocaust.
Amen.
Prayer for the Fighters:
Almighty God, remember the Fighters of the Ghettos, the Jewish
Partisans and members of the Resistance. They fought without weapons,
without ammunition and without hope. Their heroism paved the way for
the rebirth of our people. Without the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the Six
Day War would have been impossible.
Ruler of the Universe, open the hearts of the religious fanatics who
kill in Thy Name, for the lust of power. Let them understand that
there cannot be love of God without love for the felow man. Let them
understand that religious dogma can override Your Command: Thou shall
not kill.
Prayer for the Six Million Victims:
Almighty God, remember the six million people that were gassed,
killed, drowned, burned alive, tortured, beaten or frozen to death.
For the sake of one man, a whole nation was crucified, while the world
looked on in silence. In our hearts, their sacred memory will last
forever and ever. Amen. God of Our Fathers, let the ashes of the
children incinerated in Auschwitz, the rivers of blood spilled at
Babbi Yar or Majdanek, be a warning to mankind that hatred is
destructive, violence is contagious, while man has an unlimited
capacity to cruelty. Almighty God, fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah:
"They shall beat their swords into ploughshares . . . nation shall not
lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any
more." Amen.
Next update: TEFAF exhibitor Marlborough Gallery stealing the Mark
Rothko and Francis Bacon Estate. Or Studio 2000 Art Gallery* funded
with drug money, or Royal Athena Gallery, the Jerome Eisenberg tapes
and the stolen statue of Eros etc, etc. There are just so many goodies
out there. Let me take a pick for you. Trust me, you're talking to an
expert...
*Studio 2000 Art Gallery
"Art Mafia"...published Meulenhoff 2000. Journalist Henk Schutten
again:
"At the FIOD (Dutch IRS) the suspicion rises that the Amsterdam
Gallery 2000 had connections with Mafia Don Klaas Bruinsma (Murdered
Dutch Godfather)."
It concerned a money laundering scam from Hong Kong based companies
who provided facilities for the gallery. The Hong Kong companies were
under the control of the late Mafia Don. It has been proven without
any doubt by the hard hitting Dutch investigative journalist Mr. Bart
Middelburg, in news paper articles and books that the Gallery was
funded with criminal money. To my surprise, the director of the
gallery mentioned in the Pan catalogue is still Mr. H.E.M. Meyers, the
same director who has been convicted in the past of drug dealing. A
nice tough is the Chairman of the Studio Art Gallery, Mr Pim Jacobs.
This famous Dutch musician died several years ago. Convenient isn't
it...a dead chairman? When I spoke with journalist Bart Middelburg, he
told me that he had confronted Mr Jacob's, when he was still alive,
with the drug angle of the Gallery. Mr. Jacob's was terribly
embarrassed, told he was framed, wanted to step down immediately...but
unfortunately died before he was able to do so.
Some literature:
De God Mother (The God Mother) - Bart Middelburg
publ. L.J. Veen, Amsterdam/Antwerpen
De Dominee (The Vicar) - Bart Middelburg
publ. L.J. Veen, Amsterdam/Antwerpen
Het vervolg op De Dominee (The Vicar, the Sequel) - Bart Middelburg
publ. L.J. Veen, Amsterdam/Antwerpen
Operatie Delta (Operation Delta) - Bart Middelburg
publ. L.J. Veen, Amsterdam/Antwerpen
Kunstmaffia (Art Mafia) - Henk Schutten
publ. Meulenhoff, Amsterdam
De Jacht op Octopus (The Hunt for Octopus) - Henk Schutten
publ. Meulenhoff, Amsterdam
Deals met Justitie (Deals with the Justice Dept.) - Marian Husken
publ. Meulenhoff, Amsterdam
De Jacht op de Erven Bruinsma (Hunting for the Heirs of Bruinsma) -
Bas van Hout
publ. PS, Amsterdam
Go to the Art News Index
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Update 07 06 2001
Ready to Rumble?
On numerous occasions in the past, New York's Queen of Gossip, Amy
Page told me about Axel Vervoordt's secret life. Last week I decided
to check up on Axelino's
illustrious hobbies. Hear Poison Amy twist the dagger... Her 'very
dear and close friend', 'pickup Axel Vervoordt,' doesn't do it with
little boys any more.
According to her... He seems to have straightened out
his life... According to us... We hope she's right.
What do you think, Judge Judy?
Is innocent Axel just selling Holocaust pictures now :-)
My conversation with Queen of Mean... Scandal Sheet...
Amyyyy... Page!
Thursday 31 May / NY Time 12 a.m.
On the Air:
Amy Page: Ref. as A
Michel van Rijn: Ref. as M
For real aficionados good news too: Copies of this
tape can be ordered on in...@michelvanrijn.com
The transcript and first copy of this collectors item
was send by me to the Belgian Police.
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Excerpt
M: Beside the fact he likes little boys he is a nice
guy.
A: No more!
M: Oh no more?
A: Not for years.
M: He has seen the light now?
A: Well I think... I mean Axel is changed. He became
very much the pater families you know.
M: Well I think there were lots of scandals also in
Belgium so he can't afford it you know.
A: Yeah, but I mean I know that now... That he is very much not doing
that. You know... So ehm... But I love Axel as you know. And I never
cared for Noortman. I thought that Noortman was creepy.
M: Yes he is. He definitely is.
A: Something about the way he looks.
M: You know it's ehm...
A: Like Axel is always saying, he [Noortman] gives
this party in Maastricht every year. I mean so
Noortman... I can get you invited to the party. I said
No, no you know don't bother I hear it's not a nice
castle. I have the real thing with you. You know I
never made an effort...
M: (laughing)
A: You know I just don't like him.
M: Nice to gossip, nice to gossip.
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“Close Encounters” with young boys
Read the (translated) article - in six episodes - on Schloss and a.o.
Axel Vervoordt by hard-hitting investigative Dutch journalist mr. Jan
Portein... - click here
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Full Conversation
M: Hallo?... Amy?... Heee. I just send you a mail.
Michel.
A: Hi!
M: Hi how are you?
A: I'm fine. How was your visit?
M: No, no I didn't make it, so I'm coming on Monday.
And first to New York.
A: Oh great.
M: But only for three days or something, so uh I don't know if you're
gonna be around?
A: I am! Oh great can I see you?
M: I just sent you a mail actually and I was going to
call you tomorrow but then I thought let me try this
number, because I thought it was from the Art &
Auction.
A: No no. I would love to see you.
M: Tuesday evening for dinner?
A: Eh let me see. I'm leaving... I think I'm leaving
on Wednesday. Let's check.
M: laughing.
A: That's fine. I'm sure, that's fine. Yes, Tuesday
evening for dinner is perfect. I'm leaving Wednesday
in the morning very early.
M: We don't make it very late than.
A: It doesn't matter, I don't care, because the more
I sleep on the plane, the better it is.
M: That's true.
A: Yeah well I don't care. That's great. I'm so
exited.
M: That's good. Where do we meet? Shall I come and pick you up? Is it
still the XXXX Avenue?
A: Yes, why don't you come and pick me up, than you
can see how does the chair looks.
M: That's nice. Do you still have it? That's sweet.
A: Still have it? I touch it every day for good luck!
M: Great.
A: And so does the maid.
M: Good to hear that there are maids cleaning. Good
good good good!
A: Just make a reservation, or shall I make a
reservation?
M: No I make a reservation.
A: You make a reservation.
M: I stay in The Plaza. So let me see what's?... I
haven't been in New York for a long time.
A: Yes. I'm very near The Plaza, you know I'm not very far. You never
been to my house.
M: I brought you one night, and I was completely drunk and I gave you
my handkerchief and I said well...
A: I still have it.
M: Oh that's sweet.
A: It's the one with the elephants. [Giraffes]
M: Laughing pink...
A: No Yellow [misses the joke]
M: laughing
A: Anyway you have my address.
M: I have. I have
A: Okay the entrance to the building is on XXth
Street.
M: XXth Street.
A: Yeah. So what time will you come?
M: First what is fashionable what is a nice place to
eat.
A: I don't know, there are a million.
M: Because I'm not been in New York for long time as you know so I
don't know.
A: There is a new one in the Trump Building, it's at
the Columbus Circle but I forgot the name of it. It's
owned by the people who are owning Vaughn. or in The Plaza itself?
M: I always eat in the Oyster bar but I'm happy to go out.
A: I love the Oyster bar.
M: Either the Oyster bar or I ask for the restaurant.
Is there only one in the Trump Building or are there
several restaurants.
A: Let me just check. I can find this. I think it's
called Jean Georges or something like that. Let me
just... It is formal.
M: That's fine. I'll ask the concierge.
A: The concierge. Of course.
M: Everything will be done. So I'll pick you up around what seven
thirty eigthish? We have a drink?
A: Seven thirty that will be great. And ehm you know, don't bring
anyone else.
M: No no no no I won't
A: I want to be alone with you.
M: Yes nice nice nice, so has been long time.
A: Okay
M: Are you coming to Europe afterwards?
A: Yes. I'm coming the next day.
M: Great.
A: And ehm, I gone be in London and I have to go to
Brussels to an Tribal Art fair.
M: Oh wonderful.
A: And than I will be back in London and than I'll
have to go to Paris.
M: Not bad.
A: And than I'll be back in London. I gone be away
until the 17th of July.
M: My XXXX is in Brussels with Tribal Art, you know that.
A: I know, I met him.
M: Okay. Where are you going to stay?
A: I'm going to stay with my friend Ghissele.
M: Aha. Not with Vervoordt this time?
A: No no. I mean he is near Antwerp. You know and this is the fair in
Brussels, you know where people just walk around. All the galleries
are open. It is one of those things you want to be in the town.
M: Yeah yeah.
A: You know it's just a walk around thing, there is no
central event, you know, anything like that.
M: Okay good.
A: Where you gonna be?
M: Will be three days in New York, than for a couple
of days in Boston, then I'll flying back to Europe, I
don't know if you want to come to XXXXX it's beautiful the weather...
A: I love to. Let's arrange it when I see you. We'll
arrange a day.
M: Yes okay.
A: I'll have to be in Paris longer than I thought
because we decided the whole sales there.
M: Anything back... You hear anything back from my
web-site? Any rumors?
A: Oh every minute. Well I've lost a lot of friends,
because I'll go to parties and everybody is talking
about it. The can't get the name right but they say that awful
web-site you know they say that horrible man. I say that is one of my
close friends.
So people just move away. (laughing)
M: Laughing.
A: I say. "You mean Michel? Michel is wonderful". You know... And
ehm... Who is it where they are upset about? I can't...
M: Noortman?
A: No not Noortman.
M: Was he alright when you met him?
A: Oh I know, but I didn't see this thing.
M: No?
A: I didn't see this thing, but it was something about
Giuseppe [Eskenazi].
M: Oh Yes okay. Giuseppe I'm attacking but you know.
A: But somebody tells me that that Guise was thinking to sue you. Well
and I said "He'll loves that".
M: Oh yes.
A: Yes he'll love that. I said It's his dream.
M: He makes my day if he does!
A: Yes that's what I said. I hadn't spoken to you, but
I know you well enough to know that.
M: Yes I'll love it.
M: Nobody dares somehow to step forwards. So ehm you know I don't no
why. It's probably because I beat...
you know, because Wildenstein bit the dust in Federal Court.
A: Yeah. Noortman... I mean Axel told me that Noortman asked him or he
should sue. And Axel said "No no... Just let it go". And so I said to
Axel, Who loved his mother very much you know. I said "What if someone
would have written something to do witch killed your mother". I said,
"I'd sue them no matter what" you know.
M: I didn't hear from Axel also, because I have Axel
with some Holocaust painting you know.
A: You know Axel is a good guy. I mean he didn't lie
about those things, he said where they were from. You know I mean Axel
is not a bad man.
M: Beside the fact he likes little boys he is a nice
guy.
A: No more.
M: Oh no more?
A: Not for years.
M: He has seen the light now?
A: Well I think... I mean Axel is changed. He became
very much the pater families you know.
M: Well I think there were lots of scandals also in
Belgium so he can't afford it you know.
A: Yeah, but I mean I know that now... That he is very much not doing
that. You know... So ehm... But I love Axel as you know. And I never
cared for Noortman. I thought that Noortman was creepy.
M: Yes he is. He definitely is.
A: Something about the way he looks.
M: You know it's ehm...
A: Like Axel is always saying, he [Noortman] gives
this party in Maastricht every year. I mean so
Noortman... I can get you invited to the party. I said
No no you know don't bother I hear it's not a nice
castle. I have the real thing with you. You know I
never made an effort...
M: laughing
A: You know I just don't like him.
M: Nice to gossip, nice to gossip.
A: Oh yeah, we gossip much more. I am so exited about this.
M: So am I. We are going to have a great dinner.
A: Definitely
M: And I'll pick you up at 7:30 something like this.
A: Something like that yeah.
M: We gone have a great evening.
A: Lots of love.
M: Alright see you on Tuesday... Ciao.
See also Tableau Magazine Amy Page
See also Amy Page - Former Editor in Chief, Art &
Auction Magazine - click here
Go to the Art News Index
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nan
>
> >Dear John Stevens,
> >Evidently Axel Vervoordt (and Robin Symes) have "bad" reputations in
> >certain
> >art circles - www.rijn.com/art news.
>
> Does that URL work for anybody?
>
> >Belgium royalty consults with
> >the ultimate in decorious style Axel Vervoordt for decor improvement
> >ideas. According to Rijn, the King and Albert share in Vervoordt's
> >taste in "mounting" boys, not just mounting paintings.
>
> Who is this King they're talking about, if not Albert? Do you have a
> proper cite a person can use?
Not the King of Siam!
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Amy said
26 juni 2001
Op 4 juni jl. publiceerden wij een klein gedeelte van een op tape
vastgelegd gesprek tussen kunstmusketier Michel van Rijn en de
Amerikaanse kunstrecensente Amy Page. Dat gedeelte had betrekking op
een van de grootste kunsthandelaren van de wereld, de Belg Axel
Vervoordt:
Amy: ....I mean, Axel is not a bad man.
M. : Beside the fact that he likes little boys, he's a nice guy.
Amy : No more.
M. : Oh, no more?
Amy : Not for years.
M. : He sees the light now?
Amy : Well, I mean...Axel is changed. He became very much the pater
familias, you know.
M. : Well, I think there were lots of scandals in Belgium. So he can't
afford it you know.
Amy : Yeah, but I know that now. That he's very much not doin'that.
Wij vroegen de familie Vervoordt om commentaar. Tot nu toe zonder
succes. Voor het oog accepteerde de eigenaar van de luxe limousine
zonder morren dat zijn glimmende carrosserie ernstig in ongerede was
geraakt door de bumper van een ordinaire Lada. Maar dat er achter de
schermen verder niets is gebeurd kan er bij ons niet in. Ook al omdat
onze publicaties over deze affaire werden opgenomen op Van Rijn's
internationale en druk bezochte site en de Belgische politie de tape
kreeg toegezonden. Om te voorkomen dat de zaak zoals haast
gebruikelijk toch stilletjes in de berm naast de vluchtstrook terecht
zou komen, schreven wij gistermiddag om 12.28 een mailtje aan Amy, dat
wij tevens op de burelen van haar twee werkgevers (The art newspaper
en Tableau Magazine) en haar goede vriend Vervoordt lieten neerdalen.
Om niets aan het toeval over te laten. De tekst luidde:
"Dear miss Page,
I'm an investigative reporter of the Dutch internet-magazine Kleintje
Muurkrant. In that capacity I'd like to ask you some questions
regarding the case around mr. Axel Vervoordt. First: According to mr.
Van Rijn you first mentioned mr. Vervoordt's appetite for boys between
six and twelve at a party specially organised to your honour in
"Harry's bar", a famous outfit in Rome, on New Year's Eve 1996/1997.
Afterwards the same information popped up in several
telephone-conversations between you and mr. Van Rijn until he taped
and published it. Do you affirm these revelations?
Second: Has it ever occurred to you that according to the Belgian law
you should have warned the Belgian police-authorities of mr.
Vervoordt's criminal behaviour, abusing underaged boys? If so, why
haven't you acted properly as soon as you came to know of mr.
Vervoordt's horrible sexual activities?
Rgrds
Jan Portein".
Gistermiddag om 14.45 antwoordde Amy.
"Dear mr. Portein,
This must be some sort of sick joke. I know nothing about the
allegations you suggest. Based on my knowledge of and friendship with
Mr. Vervoordt, I'm certain that such things could not possibly be
true.
Sincerely,
Amy Page".
"Sick" is juist, "joke" verre van dat. En dat Amy meer dan drie weken
lang niet op de hoogte zou zijn geraakt van de affaire is op zijn
minst ongeloofwaardig. Wij hebben eerder de indruk dat Amy een
kostbaar Middeleeuws tapijtje onder zich voelt wegglijden. Wordt
vervolgd.
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Alan Hope
That interview is nothing but implications.
>and what VR has
>exposed with connections of Nihoul and Vervoordt (who has exquisite
>expertise in "romantic midieval purity"!!!)
What has he "exposed" about Nihoul. I searched his site and got no
results containing the word "Nihoul".
>It's NOT about me, for F's
>sake! It's about the sadistic child sex abuse, exploitation, etc. in
>Belguim as well as it is widespread throughout Europe.
>I can't believe you behave with outrage toward ME!!! When it f'ing
>things that are happening to to innocent, vulnerable children
>throughout the world, you decadent, pompous son of bitch! I'm too
>disgusted to care if this post has serious misdemeanor misspellings
>and syntax crimes. CRIPE! Values, VALUES!!!
Provide some evidence, that's all.
--
AH
Alan Hope
Where is the reference to the King?
--
AH
Alan Hope
>Where in Belgium do you live that you can bury your head in the sand?
>www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews/archives/june2001.htm Don't dare say
>that year 2001 is old news! It's recent history - as recent as the
>Dutroux case.
Certainly, anyone who wants to know just what evidence there is for
your claims should break the habit, and read your post all the way
through to the end, keeping careful lookout for the evidence against
King Albert and Michel Nihoul in particular.
--
AH
nan
Listen, Mephisto, you are at your best when you call decent Americans
(Luk) "nazi" or "racist." You are never more superior than when you
sign-off your posts with a lower than low vulgar quip.
The "claims" are not mine - I make no claims, but I am certainly
curious. It's persons like Van Rijn, Portein, et al, who
investigate,report and/or make claims. Although you prefer to smother
the case, this is an intriguing with Europeans with whom (not in the
atc) I have discussed the Dutroux case.
Do you doubt that social and ruling elites (& politicians) can be
degenerate and decadent? Did a medieval pope sleep with his daughter?
Can a fairly erudite person be loathesome and vulgar? Can Axel
Vervoordt, married with sons, be a sadistic paedophiliac? The police
had a file on him for a long time, and those "in the know" like art
journalist Amy Page (ref:vanRijn interview)know that Vervoordt *is*,
and she just blinks, or denies it.
The Dutroux>Nihoul>Bouty>Nihoul>Vervoordt=paedophilia connections have
firm implications of being credible. Of course, Vervoordt, a
gentleman of exquisite taste and a decor consultant to Belgium's
royals, has had 6-8 years to clean up his tracks and his "acts."
Clean-up and cover-up. Dutroux - a sick pawn.
from Nan
Alan Hope
>Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<nn7t50118ktu90jrc...@4ax.com>...
>> nan goes:
>> >Where in Belgium do you live that you can bury your head in the sand?
>> >www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews/archives/june2001.htm Don't dare say
>> >that year 2001 is old news! It's recent history - as recent as the
>> >Dutroux case.
>> Certainly, anyone who wants to know just what evidence there is for
>> your claims should break the habit, and read your post all the way
>> through to the end, keeping careful lookout for the evidence against
>> King Albert and Michel Nihoul in particular.
>Listen, Mephisto, you are at your best when you call decent Americans
>(Luk) "nazi" or "racist." You are never more superior than when you
>sign-off your posts with a lower than low vulgar quip.
Irrelevant.
>The "claims" are not mine - I make no claims, but I am certainly
>curious. It's persons like Van Rijn, Portein, et al, who
>investigate,report and/or make claims. Although you prefer to smother
>the case, this is an intriguing with Europeans with whom (not in the
>atc) I have discussed the Dutroux case.
Lurkers in email, uh-huh.
>Do you doubt that social and ruling elites (& politicians) can be
>degenerate and decadent?
Not in the least, as indeed can firemen and farmers. Present your
evidence.
>Did a medieval pope sleep with his daughter?
That's reaching a bit.
> Can a fairly erudite person be loathesome and vulgar?
Are we talking about someone in particular?
>Can Axel
>Vervoordt, married with sons, be a sadistic paedophiliac?
He could be, but you've shown no evidence of it.
>The police
>had a file on him for a long time, and those "in the know" like art
>journalist Amy Page (ref:vanRijn interview)know that Vervoordt *is*,
>and she just blinks, or denies it.
She denies it flat-out. The supposed smoking-gun tape doesn't
necessarily back up the claim. And you've shown no evidence of a
police file.
>The Dutroux>Nihoul>Bouty>Nihoul>Vervoordt=paedophilia connections have
>firm implications of being credible.
Not based on anything you've posted. The link between Vervoordt and
paedophilia is not made, and the link between Nihoul and Vervoordt
still less so. Based on your evidence, of course. I'm trying to give
you a little lesson in Not Jumping to Conclusions. In vain, it seems.
>Of course, Vervoordt, a
>gentleman of exquisite taste and a decor consultant to Belgium's
>royals, has had 6-8 years to clean up his tracks and his "acts."
If so, how do you explain your profound conviction of his evil?
>Clean-up and cover-up. Dutroux - a sick pawn.
So the lack of evidence is evidence of a cover-up. Standard
conspiracy-nut logic.
--
AH
nan
> nan goes:
>
> >Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<nn7t50118ktu90jrc...@4ax.com>...
> >> nan goes:
>
> >> >Where in Belgium do you live that you can bury your head in the sand?
> >> >www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews/archives/june2001.htm Don't dare say
> >> >that year 2001 is old news! It's recent history - as recent as the
> >> >Dutroux case.
>
> >> Certainly, anyone who wants to know just what evidence there is for
> >> your claims should break the habit, and read your post all the way
> >> through to the end, keeping careful lookout for the evidence against
> >> King Albert and Michel Nihoul in particular.
>
> >Listen, Mephisto, you are at your best when you call decent Americans
> >(Luk) "nazi" or "racist." You are never more superior than when you
> >sign-off your posts with a lower than low vulgar quip.
>
> Irrelevant.
Highly relevant because it's your standard practice.
>
> >The "claims" are not mine - I make no claims, but I am certainly
> >curious. It's persons like Van Rijn, Portein, et al, who
> >investigate,report and/or make claims. Although you prefer to smother
> >the case, this is an intriguing with Europeans with whom (not in the
> >atc) I have discussed the Dutroux case.
>
> Lurkers in email, uh-huh.
Nope, a private discussion group composed of mostly Europeans and a
couple of very serious, sincere Belgiums.
>
> >Do you doubt that social and ruling elites (& politicians) can be
> >degenerate and decadent?
>
> Not in the least, as indeed can firemen and farmers. Present your
> evidence.
Yes, but social and ruling elites entertain, say, diplomats, and
members of NATO and of the UN, don't they??? It follows the old world
"court" pattern - intrique and duplicity, blackmail and extortion,
undue influence and cover-ups. I am not the "investigator." Hardly
anyone trusts the Belgian authorities and media in the matter. It's
rather incredible that you seem so complacent.
Have you not cringed at the thought of children kidnapped and
exploited for the most disgusting purposes?
>
> >Did a medieval pope sleep with his daughter?
>
> That's reaching a bit.
Well, in a way, maybe, but Vervoordt is a self-made Medieval scholar
of sorts.
>
> > Can a fairly erudite person be loathesome and vulgar?
>
> Are we talking about someone in particular?
Er, only if the shoe fits.
>
> >Can Axel
> >Vervoordt, married with sons, be a sadistic paedophiliac?
>
> He could be, but you've shown no evidence of it.
Evidently, there is evidence - a police file which predates the
Dutroux case.
> >The police
> >had a file on him for a long time, and those "in the know" like art
> >journalist Amy Page (ref:vanRijn interview)know that Vervoordt *is*,
> >and she just blinks, or denies it.
>
> She denies it flat-out. The supposed smoking-gun tape doesn't
> necessarily back up the claim. And you've shown no evidence of a
> police file.
Amy Page spoke openly in a discussion with VanRijn and he taped it.
The discussion has been posted here in the atc. Only after the
discussion was made public did Amy deny it. Of course, she would have
to deny it because her "biz" is editing/writing for art mags with an
international market. Undoubtedly, she cannot afford to be shunned and
put on a black-list thereby jeopardizing her career. Who knows that
Vervoordt's sons are really his bio sons? Maybe Boris is his former
boy sex-slave grown-up to the family business, etc.
> >The Dutroux>Nihoul>Bouty>Nihoul>Vervoordt=paedophilia connections have
> >firm implications of being credible.
>
> Not based on anything you've posted. The link between Vervoordt and
> paedophilia is not made, and the link between Nihoul and Vervoordt
> still less so. Based on your evidence, of course. I'm trying to give
> you a little lesson in Not Jumping to Conclusions. In vain, it seems.
>
> >Of course, Vervoordt, a
> >gentleman of exquisite taste and a decor consultant to Belgium's
> >royals, has had 6-8 years to clean up his tracks and his "acts."
>
> If so, how do you explain your profound conviction of his evil?
My "profound conviction of his evil"??? It's Van Rijn and others
like Portein who hold that conviction. CERTAINLY, it's NOT Regina
Louf who is evil!
>
> >Clean-up and cover-up. Dutroux - a sick pawn.
>
> So the lack of evidence is evidence of a cover-up. Standard
> conspiracy-nut logic.
Standard treatment of Regina Louf too, isn't it? She's declared "mad"
and excused as a witness/victim.
The word "conspiracy" exists and prevails as a concept because there
are conspiracies. There have been conspiracies and evil cabals
throughout man's history. Among Europeans as well as Belgians there is
no doubt of a conspiracy to cover-up the expansive child sex-slavery
trade. The Bouty/Nihoul connection should be proof enough.
Interesting that Annie Bouty is a disbarred lawyer.
Curious that Dutroux's "abusive" and "horrible" parents were school
teachers. Quite curious is the fact that defendant Michelle Martin,
Dutroux's wife and
mother of his three children (!!!) is a former elementary grade school
teacher.
I'm reminded of this line, and I thinks it's relevant for an exit
line:
"Thy victims, ere they yet expire,
Shall know the demon for their sire."
from Nan
Alan Hope
>Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<kdov50l32c4hmktve...@4ax.com>...
>> nan goes:
>> >Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<nn7t50118ktu90jrc...@4ax.com>...
>> >> nan goes:
>> >> >Where in Belgium do you live that you can bury your head in the sand?
>> >> >www.michelvanrijn.com/artnews/archives/june2001.htm Don't dare say
>> >> >that year 2001 is old news! It's recent history - as recent as the
>> >> >Dutroux case.
>> >> Certainly, anyone who wants to know just what evidence there is for
>> >> your claims should break the habit, and read your post all the way
>> >> through to the end, keeping careful lookout for the evidence against
>> >> King Albert and Michel Nihoul in particular.
>> >Listen, Mephisto, you are at your best when you call decent Americans
>> >(Luk) "nazi" or "racist." You are never more superior than when you
>> >sign-off your posts with a lower than low vulgar quip.
>> Irrelevant.
>Highly relevant because it's your standard practice.
What does my abuse of Luk have to do with this?
>> >The "claims" are not mine - I make no claims, but I am certainly
>> >curious. It's persons like Van Rijn, Portein, et al, who
>> >investigate,report and/or make claims. Although you prefer to smother
>> >the case, this is an intriguing with Europeans with whom (not in the
>> >atc) I have discussed the Dutroux case.
>> Lurkers in email, uh-huh.
>Nope, a private discussion group composed of mostly Europeans and a
>couple of very serious, sincere Belgiums.
I don't believe you. You think people from Belgium are called
"Belgiums". That gives me pause. It's not the first time. If you knew
a single Belgian you would never repeat the error.
>> >Do you doubt that social and ruling elites (& politicians) can be
>> >degenerate and decadent?
>> Not in the least, as indeed can firemen and farmers. Present your
>> evidence.
>Yes, but social and ruling elites entertain, say, diplomats, and
>members of NATO and of the UN, don't they??? It follows the old world
>"court" pattern - intrique and duplicity, blackmail and extortion,
>undue influence and cover-ups.
That so-called "pattern" is a figment of your imagination. Present
your evidence. Are we to assume you think George W. Bush, as a certain
member of an obvious elite (father and brothers prominent political
figures, Skull and Bones, etc) is involved in "intrique and duplicity,
blackmail and extortion, undue influence and cover-ups"?
If not, why not? If his elite status (few world leaders outside of
monarchies are more elite than he) does not taint him, why should the
elite status of anyone else?
Present your evidence. That will sort it all out, as to who is guilty
and who not.
>I am not the "investigator." Hardly
>anyone trusts the Belgian authorities and media in the matter.
According to whom?
>It's
>rather incredible that you seem so complacent.
I'm asking you to present your evidence. Tell me again what my own
point of view is.
>Have you not cringed at the thought of children kidnapped and
>exploited for the most disgusting purposes?
Duh. That's the easy part. Look -- even an ignoramus like you is able
to do that bit.
I have two children of my own, and lost another in tragic
circumstances. I'll thank you to spare me your pious pontifications.
If my memory serves, you have no children of your own. In which case,
you'll shut the fuck up.
>> >Did a medieval pope sleep with his daughter?
>> That's reaching a bit.
>Well, in a way, maybe, but Vervoordt is a self-made Medieval scholar
>of sorts.
Bah. You have nothing.
>> > Can a fairly erudite person be loathesome and vulgar?
>> Are we talking about someone in particular?
>Er, only if the shoe fits.
I think I'd lay claim to being more than "fairly erudite". But I could
be wrong. Loathsome and disgusting are in the eye of the beholder, so
I'll happily give you those. I must seem pretty L&D from where you're
sitting. If only you could grasp what the real point always is. You'd
think of me as "most excellently solicitous and generous" -- Jane
Austen.
>> >Can Axel
>> >Vervoordt, married with sons, be a sadistic paedophiliac?
>> He could be, but you've shown no evidence of it.
>Evidently, there is evidence - a police file which predates the
>Dutroux case.
Present evidence of such a file.
>> >The police
>> >had a file on him for a long time, and those "in the know" like art
>> >journalist Amy Page (ref:vanRijn interview)know that Vervoordt *is*,
>> >and she just blinks, or denies it.
>> She denies it flat-out. The supposed smoking-gun tape doesn't
>> necessarily back up the claim. And you've shown no evidence of a
>> police file.
>Amy Page spoke openly in a discussion with VanRijn and he taped it.
She said not very much. You could take it several ways.
>The discussion has been posted here in the atc. Only after the
>discussion was made public did Amy deny it.
She denied something that was extrapolated from the very vague
statement she made. She never said Vervoordt was a paedophile. Look
back at what you posted.
>Of course, she would have
>to deny it because her "biz" is editing/writing for art mags with an
>international market.
So? How does that make her beholden to Axel Vervoordt?
>Undoubtedly, she cannot afford to be shunned and
>put on a black-list thereby jeopardizing her career.
How would that come about?
>Who knows that
>Vervoordt's sons are really his bio sons?
Who cares? What difference does it make? Do you read the stuff you
post?
>Maybe Boris is his former
>boy sex-slave grown-up to the family business, etc.
Wow. Great story, if true. Present your evidence.
>> >The Dutroux>Nihoul>Bouty>Nihoul>Vervoordt=paedophilia connections have
>> >firm implications of being credible.
>> Not based on anything you've posted. The link between Vervoordt and
>> paedophilia is not made, and the link between Nihoul and Vervoordt
>> still less so. Based on your evidence, of course. I'm trying to give
>> you a little lesson in Not Jumping to Conclusions. In vain, it seems.
You have no response to this, I see.
>> >Of course, Vervoordt, a
>> >gentleman of exquisite taste and a decor consultant to Belgium's
>> >royals, has had 6-8 years to clean up his tracks and his "acts."
>> If so, how do you explain your profound conviction of his evil?
>My "profound conviction of his evil"??? It's Van Rijn and others
>like Portein who hold that conviction. CERTAINLY, it's NOT Regina
>Louf who is evil!
You're not really in control of your material, are you?
>> >Clean-up and cover-up. Dutroux - a sick pawn.
>> So the lack of evidence is evidence of a cover-up. Standard
>> conspiracy-nut logic.
>Standard treatment of Regina Louf too, isn't it? She's declared "mad"
>and excused as a witness/victim.
So someone told you.
>The word "conspiracy" exists and prevails as a concept because there
>are conspiracies. There have been conspiracies and evil cabals
>throughout man's history.
So what? So any conspiracy you come up with must be true?
>Among Europeans as well as Belgians there is
>no doubt of a conspiracy to cover-up the expansive child sex-slavery
>trade.
Actually, there is doubt. It's the doubt I'm trying to teach you any
self-respecting "researcher" or journalist ought to have as his first
weapon. Nothing is as it seems. Put your doubt to some use.
Of course, if your natural doubts have been put to rest, and you're
convinced things must be this way as opposed to that way, all you need
to do to dispel the dount that persists in me is to present your
evidence.
If you convinced on the basis of evidence, let's see it. If it's good
evidence, I'll be convinced too.
So bring it on. I'm dying to see it.
>The Bouty/Nihoul connection should be proof enough.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Bouty and Nihoul were
married. So what?
>Interesting that Annie Bouty is a disbarred lawyer.
Why is that interesting? Why was she disbarred? When?
>Curious that Dutroux's "abusive" and "horrible" parents were school
>teachers. Quite curious is the fact that defendant Michelle Martin,
>Dutroux's wife and
>mother of his three children (!!!) is a former elementary grade school
>teacher.
Explain how that's relevant.
>I'm reminded of this line, and I thinks it's relevant for an exit
>line:
>"Thy victims, ere they yet expire,
>Shall know the demon for their sire."
Lord Byron was addressing a vampire. Explain the relevance.
You see, nan, every time you post, I'm going to be all like, explain
what you mean. If you can't, that makes you look like an idiot.
You can keep on posting all this stuff if you like, but when you're
called on it (see above) you can never argue the case. I don't know
why you persist, but you do.
What do you get out of it? You can never stand up a single point
you're trying to make, because you don't have a grasp of your
material. Why do you bother? Why not take a few weeks to find out what
the case is all about (it would take you more than a few weeks, but
still) and then come back?
The only people posting still to these threads (w enow know that
others are reading without posting) are me, with seven-plus years of
following the case on the spot, in French and Dutch; John Stevens,
whose position I don't know but who obviously has access to primary
sources and has a profound knowledge of the case; and you, who thinks
"the King" and "Albert" are two different things; who can't tell the
difference between a valid source (such as the PVs John Stevens has
cited) and a site like Van Rijn's, which is journalism at its most
yellow.
It amazes me you continue to interpolate yourself, as if you had
something to say. Is 2001 old news, as you challenged me in a recent
post? Well, yes it is. You wouldn't get away with that shit in a
thread on some US breaking TC thread. The very many vigilant posters
here would strip your bones.
On this one, there's only me, and I only have one thing to say: if you
make a claim, back it up.
Is that too much to ask?
--
AH
nan
Some say Belgium is already a big "fuck-me" mall,
human garlands of *daisy chains*.
But, it's a mall for the privileged elite only.
(*daisy chain=orgy in orgy lexicon)
And Cheers to you, from Nan
nan
You're doing your own bit of cover-up and engaged in your typical
distraction ploy- blaming me for the content of articles written by
informed and investigating writers on this tangled web of sex trade
and stolen art trade.
Same old Euro Decadence...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
THE CASTLE, THE SEQUENCE
By Jan Portein
July 2002 we published on this site "The Castle". The article
referenced, among other things, the visit Regina Louf (witness X I in
the Dutroux-case) had made to art dealer Axel Vervoordt's stately home
in 'sGravenwezel (Belgium), accompanied by police officers. Next to
this, the article contained a compilation of the email traffic between
the American art journalist Amy Page and us, where she spoke about the
pedophile activities by her close friend Axel Vervoordt. It took a
while, but since then we made contact with someone else who also had
knowledge about Vervoordt's sick activities. Again a female. Again a
member of the art world.
The Birthmark
E-mail exchange between Jan Portein and Kristien Dieltens revealing
shocking facts!
a world of decadency where many things are accepted what I felt
around specific people can't be proven What I've seen made it
clear to me that everything is possible There were many known
faces and 'great' artists A man like A.V. [Axel Vervoordt] I've
known since 1974 The details I will never know But the
greediness and a-moral ness of this man is huge I knew him
mostly as an art lover who could climb the ladder very fast and who
was surrounded by jet setters who loved to be invited to one of his
famous parties. I've never seen that A [Axel] did something wrong but
it was widely accepted as one of the rarities of A [Axel]. It was
accepted because the people thought he was eccentric I accuse
in my own way (in the book) And already people from his social
class told me writing this was not a smart way to further my literary
career."
Regards,
Kristien
It would get worse! Kristien's book was planned to be published by the
Flemish publisher Lannoo, who, oh irony, has among their catalogue
listings the book "You get used to everything, even to an adult."
According Dieltiens the reactions to her script (a four year struggle)
were very positive and enthusiastic, until the manuscript ended up in
the hands of the lectors. They demanded that the writer should take
out the paragraph about the Rubens dinner party and a pedophile priest
who forced a Moroccan boy to partake in sexual activities. Of course
she refused and found a new publisher: Publishing house Clavis, who
introduced with great success, eight months ago "The Birthmark". Very
strange that Lannoo gave a potential success away to his competitor.
Something else can be the reason as well. Lannoo is being associated
with Dutch publisher Terra. Terra publishes beautiful and expensive
art and designers books. From time to time they review books
from Walda Pairon and Axel Vervoordt about their Castles,
Gardens, Horses etc. Yes at Lannoo they must have known that the
Rubens Bacchanal in the novel of Dieltiens wasn't fiction but fact and
that the summary of those events must be right contrary to the
feelings of their best selling authors: Pairon and Vervoordt.
Business-wise not very smart. So dear Mrs Kristien Dieltiens we
nan
Considering the fact the Belgian authorities have a file on
Vervoordt's paedophiliac/orgy behaviors and that Vervoordt's castle
did indeed fit Regina Louf's description, it seems the police
"investigators" took it for granted that V's castle was the infamous
castle in Regina's testimony. Otherwise, wouldn't they have checked
out the other castle? Or, maybe, the Belgium policemen/women are
recruited according to Belgium's national bureaucratic preference for
incompetant and indifferent natures.
One of my new Beligian pals talks about how well-trained the police
are in giving out parking tickets and exercising, at the walk, their
handsome police horses.
Regards, from Nan
Alan Hope
>You're doing your own bit of cover-up and engaged in your typical
>distraction ploy- blaming me for the content of articles written by
>informed and investigating writers on this tangled web of sex trade
>and stolen art trade.
You either stand by your statements or you disown them. Such
statements include, press articles searched for, found and posted by
you. If you won't stand by them, why are you posting them? If you do
post them, why won't you stand by them?
You hope to have the best of both worlds: you spread speculation and
innuendo at will, but when called to account, you wash your hands and
claim, "It wan't me! I never done it!"
Get a bit of intellectual honesty, nan. Get some investigative
integrity. Get a fucking spine.
--
AH
Alan Hope
>t525...@hotmail.com (John Stevens) wrote in message news:<70600843.04032...@posting.google.com>...
>> > THE CASTLE, THE SEQUENCE
>> > By Jan Portein
>> Very interesting post. I had not picked up on this particular
>> development. Jan Portein's internet site
>> http://www.stelling.nl/kleintje/ is a good site for picking up little
>> bits of gossip, and also occasional hard facts which are leaked to
>> them by Dutch journalists. But it is important, when consulting this
>> site, to separate out the little nuggets of information from the
>> mounds of speculation which acccompany each factoid, and is of
>> doubtful worth. Jan Portein is definitely receiving some form of news
>> feed from the Dutch anti-paedophile action group Zoeklicht, as well as
>> the Belgian action group Morkhoven.
>> Axel Vervoordt is definitely in the firing line so far as Jan Portein
>> and his colleagues are concerned, and quite rightly in my view. And
>> indeed the castle of Axel Vervoordt was tentatively identified by
>> Regina Louf (X1). But, as usual, there is a complication. Although it
>> pains me to jump to the defence of Axel Vervoordt, I think it should
>> be pointed out that behind the castle of Axel Vervoordt is another
>> castle, which is very similar, but which has (as far as I am aware)
>> never been visited by the Belgian authorities.
>Considering the fact the Belgian authorities have a file on
>Vervoordt's paedophiliac/orgy behaviors
That's not a fact until you show it is.
>and that Vervoordt's castle
>did indeed fit Regina Louf's description, it seems the police
>"investigators" took it for granted that V's castle was the infamous
>castle in Regina's testimony.
Rather, they took it for granted it wasn't the castle.
>Otherwise, wouldn't they have checked
>out the other castle?
Why? On what grounds? Do you think policemen can just waltz into any
castle they feel like investigating? You'll recall that they visited
Vervoordt's castle on an open day. Can you begin to imagine why? I'll
help. Because they evidence they had was not enough to get a search
warrant.
>Or, maybe, the Belgium policemen/women are
>recruited according to Belgium's national bureaucratic preference for
>incompetant and indifferent natures.
I fail to see why you would care.
>One of my new Beligian pals talks about how well-trained the police
>are in giving out parking tickets and exercising, at the walk, their
>handsome police horses.
Your Belgian pals are an invention. You have no Belgian pals. Bring
one of them forward. We'll soon see how Belgian they are. No fooling
me.
--
AH