Brady's mother: Don't let my son die (Ian Brady)
Jason...@virgin.net
Hester Mofet wrote:
> Jason wrote:
>
> >
> >Mirror 27/02/00
> >DON'T LET MY SON DIE
> >Brady mother's plea to doctors as he fights for right to starve to death
> >
> >THE mother of Moors Murderer Ian Brady last night called for her
> >hunger-striking son to be kept alive by force-feeding.
> >
> >Lawyers acting for Brady will argue at the High Court in Liverpool
> >tomorrow that he has the right to starve himself to death and that the
> >tube feeding into his stomach should be removed.
> >
> >But Peggy Brady, in her late 80s, said: "Of course, I want him to be
> >kept alive. What would you want if he was your son?
> >
> >"But he is extremely proud and once he has his mind set on something it
> >is difficult to talk him out of it.
> >
> >"I am sure he is serious about starving himself to death. He is easily
> >capable of doing that, so I am glad they are taking steps to keep him
> >alive.
> >
> >"He wants to die because he has been told he will be kept inside
> >forever, so death may as well come sooner, rather than later.
> >
> >"How can he be expected to think normally when he's been told he can
> >never be free?"
> >
> >Speaking exclusively to the Sunday Mirror at her flat in Manchester, Mrs
> >Brady claimed it was "inhuman" to keep her son in jail forever - and
> >said he could become safe enough to be released.
> >
> >"To do what he did to those children, all those years ago, he must have
> >been sick in the head," she said.
> >
> >"But is he still a danger now? I am not saying he is safe to walk the
> >streets because I am not a doctor, but it was a long time ago and he was
> >ill - now he is still being punished because of that illness.
> >
> >"He has learned his lesson but he is being kept inside because his name
> >is so famous, like Jack the Ripper or Dr Crippen."
> >
> >Mrs Brady, who has her son's piercing blue eyes, has not seen Brady for
> >two years. At his request she stopped visiting when the chief of
> >Ashworth special hospital, near Liverpool, ruled that mother and son
> >must no longer be left alone during visits but should be supervised by
> >guards.
> >
> >Brady, 62, will tomorrow launch an unprecedented legal battle to try to
> >stop psychiatrists from keeping him alive through a drip-feed.
> >
> >He clashed with managers at Ashworth when he was transferred to a
> >stricter ward last autumn, and demanded staff move him back to his
> >original ward. He also insisted that he be given a computer,
> >unsupervised visits and uncensored mail. On October 29, after the
> >hospital refused to meet his conditions, he went on hunger strike. Four
> >weeks later the hospital began force-feeding him.
> >
> >He is now locked in a legal battle with the Ashworth and his case is due
> >to be heard in private at Liverpool Crown Court tomorrow.
> >
> >Meanwhile, his mother lives as a recluse on a modern estate less than a
> >mile from Manchester city centre.
> >
> >She is wary of callers who must pass through two steel doors before
> >reaching her neat first-floor flat.
> >
> >Grey-haired Mrs Brady said: "I still write to Ian and we keep in touch
> >that way. Sometimes he is up and sometimes he is down, but what can you
> >expect when he is in that place with nothing to look forward to?
> >
> >"I hear that Myra Hindley is trying to get out of prison. I don't know
> >whether she's dangerous either but what I do know is that it was a long,
> >long time ago.
> >
> >"Others who have done worse have been inside, done their time and been
> >let out."
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >Done worse than kill five children and tape the entire ordeal on audio
> >tape, and then be let out!
> >I don't think so!
> >
> >ciao
> >
> >Jason
>
> Jason,
>
> Since you're over there and know the specifics of British law, I want to ask
> you a question. I was under the impression that Hindley and Brady were given 30
> years. Or was it 30 to life with 30 being the minimum? I can understand people
> asking for their release if they were given 30 years. Their time is up and the
> law was such that 30 years was their sentence. I cannot imagine the furor in
> the United States if someone was given a sentence and after having served it
> the officials just saying "Nah, we're gonna keep you for awhile because we
> don't agree with the sentence."
>
It was life sentences that were handed down which usually means 30 years, but the
Home Office minister said that in these cases, and for Nilsen too I think, that
life should mean life.
It has been currently going through European court as to whether this was an
infringement on human rights, ie intervention after the initial sentence based on
public feeling.
I say that the initial infringment on human right came when the children were
killed, ie their basic right to life was taken away from them without just cause,
hence I can't see how Brady and Hindley can even have the cheek to bleat about the
fact that they have to spend their life incarcerated. They should have been found
guilty a few months earlier then the hangman could have just saved the taxpayer a
lot of money wasted on these degenerates.
6 years per childs death! Is that a fare rate for the murder of your child?
I'd sure as hell want a lot more!
>
> They should remain in jail for life for killing those children, so why any
> discussion?
>
I agree totally!
An if Brady wants to die let him, but ensure that it's slow and painful and tape
the ordeal on audio and video tape!
ciao
Jason
>
> Hester Mofet
Hester Mofet
>
>I agree totally!
>An if Brady wants to die let him, but ensure that it's slow and painful and
>tape
>the ordeal on audio and video tape!
>
>ciao
>
>Jason
I know they recently had a show on British television that played the audio
tape. I didn't know about the video tape. I thought there were only still
photos.
Did you happen to see the programme and what did you think of it? My best
friend said it was very painful to listen to and only cemented her feelings
that they should be locked away for life.
Hester
Repost
Hester Mofet wrote:
> I know they recently had a show on British television that played the audio
> tape. I didn't know about the video tape. I thought there were only still
> photos.
>
There was no video, it was still in its' infancy then, but now we have it so we
can use it!
>
> Did you happen to see the programme and what did you think of it?
Not bad, I have it on tape.
> My best
> friend said it was very painful to listen to and only cemented her feelings
> that they should be locked away for life.
Very painful!
It's painful we're still paying for the creep too!
ciao
Jason
>
>
> Hester
Shaun Brennan
Repost <Jason...@virgin.net> wrote in message (re. the Brady / Hindley
tapes):
> Very painful!
Which show was this? I know the Channel Five series on the case last year
was originally going to include some of the recordings, but they nixed the
idea as the material was still considered "too disturbing."
Cheers,
Shaun
shaunb...@compaq.net
Mum
never, ever replay that tape. Might have been a reconstruction but I know
they will never ever play the actual tape.
Mum
and Bradys mother (bless her, its not her fault) says that her son is an
old man now, well how old would his victims have been. Sorry Mum, and yes,
if it was one of my kids I would feel the same way trust me. You do the
crime then you have got everything coming to you that you deserve.
Mum
Hester Mofet <demo...@aol.comsnitfit> wrote in article
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| Jason wrote:
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| >
| >I agree totally!
| >An if Brady wants to die let him, but ensure that it's slow and painful
and
| >tape
| >the ordeal on audio and video tape!
| >
| >ciao
| >
| >Jason
|
| I know they recently had a show on British television that played the
audio
| tape. I didn't know about the video tape. I thought there were only still
| photos.
|
| Did you happen to see the programme and what did you think of it? My best
| friend said it was very painful to listen to and only cemented her
feelings
| that they should be locked away for life.
|
| Hester
|
|
|
Hester Mofet
>
>I don't know where you got that one from but as far as I know they will
>never, ever replay that tape. Might have been a reconstruction but I know
>they will never ever play the actual tape.
>
>Mum
You're right. I checked with my friend and I had misunderstood what she said.
They read the transcript of parts of the tape and they also showed pictures of
Lesley Ann before her death and Evans after his death. She said the picture of
Evans after death was bad, but not as chilling as the pic of poor Lesley Ann
that was taken prior to her murder. I would have to agree that it would
probably bother me more, also. The photos that American serial killers Jerome
Brudos and Harvey Glatman took of their victims prior to death are far more
chilling because there is something truly scary about seeing a picture of a
victim taken by the killer who took her life.
Did anyone over there see the BBC programme "Modern Times" that was devoted to
Hindley last night? What did you think of it?
Hester