Mysterious Idaho case
Kris Baker
http://www.kutv.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=a4c0bee8-e7b2-483f-b7e7-2d80f655c3c8
BOISE - Police arrested a 61-year-old woman and charged her with a killing
they say took place nearly three decades ago but went undiscovered until
now.
Judy Gough, 61, was charged with first-degree murder and felony use of a
firearm on Friday, then moved to a jail in Boise, said police spokeswoman
Lynn Hightower.
Authorities spent Saturday searching the woman's former home, where they say
the slaying took place. Officers learned of the killing recently, and police
officials refused to release the name of the person killed, saying it was an
ongoing investigation and that family members had not yet been notified.
"This is a case that is a brand-new investigation," Hightower said. "This is
not related to any case that BPD has ever investigated."
She declined to say how police learned of the slaying.
Though authorities said the killing was likely committed in the home in
Boise around 1980, Gough was arrested in Nampa, where she now lives.
Officers are likely to continue their search of the home in a quiet south
Boise neighborhood for the rest of the weekend, Hightower said. The
single-story, ranch-style home made of brick is about two blocks from a
country club.
"They're still out there looking for evidence," Hightower said. "There is a
story here, but detectives are doing their best to piece it all together.
We're still in that process now."
Phone calls to a phone number listed for Judy Gough weren't returned
Saturday, and the jail would not release the name of her attorney.
Kris Baker
A Murder Missed: The Arrest of Judy Gough
Nearly 3 decades ago, a woman named Judy Gough may have killed someone at
4705 Clark St. in Boise, Idaho. At least that’s what the police in Boise
think. They’ve been at the small red-brick ranch home for days now,
gathering evidence.
[Mugshot: http://crimeblog.us/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/judygough.JPG ]
Gough was arrested near her current residence in Nampa on Friday. She was
taken to Boise over the weekend.
The 61-year-old Gough faces charges of first-degree murder and felony use of
a firearm.
Cops in Boise are playing their cards close to the vest about this case, but
here is what they’ve said so far:
– Law enforcement only learned of the murder this year. It allegedly
occurred in 1980.
– Therefore this investigation is new, not an old case that went cold.
– Police haven’t revealed how they heard of the murder, much less why a
homicide went unreported for at least 27 years.
Boise Police Department spokesperson Lynn Hightower made the following
statement to the press about this investigation: “There is a story here, but
detectives are doing their best to piece it all together. We’re still in
that process now.”
Judy Gough may have been part owner of a showhorse at one point in recent
years. A newspaper article from the Idaho Statesman in 2000 indicated that a
woman with the same name from the same city (Nampa, by then) ran an animal
grooming business. A Thomas Gough was listed as the owner of 4705 Clark as
recently as 2006. Other databases show that in 2004 a 40-year-old woman
named Gough was listed at the same residence — she had the same name as a
well-known anti-abortion activist from Boise.
How could a murder go unknown for 27 years? Was the victim listed as
missing? And if Judy Gough lived an otherwise normal life, how did she end
up holding a firearm on someone in 1980? How did she become an accused
killer?
Kris Baker
http://www.fox12news.com/Global/story.asp?S=7145148
Nampa Woman Arrested for Decades Old Murder
Oct 1, 2007 09:27 AM MDT
Boise, Idaho -- A Nampa women is behind Canyon County bars, charged with
first degree murder.
The crime allegedly happened nearly three decades ago in Boise. No
information of the victim has been released.
Judy Gough,61, has been arrested in connection with a murder police believe
took place at her former home in Boise 27 years ago.
Recent information led police to search that house on Clark Street for
evidence.
Neighbors say police started their investigation at this house at 4705 Clark
Street about 11 a.m. Friday. It comes after Boise Police recently received a
lead.
"When we first got this tip, there has been a lot of investigation going on,
phone calls, interviews, information that led us to where we are today,"
said Boise Police spokesperson Lynn Hightower.
With a search warrant, Boise Police investigators and the Ada County
Coroner's office are spending the next few days searching for evidence tied
to a 27-year-old crime.
"This is truly has been one of the unusual, unique homicide cases ever
investigated by Boise PD. It is not common that detectives are called up to
investigate a case that is almost three decades old," said Hightower.
Friday afternoon, police arrested Gough of Nampa. They say she used to live
in the house that is now a crime scene.
"I can tell you that there is sufficient evidence that led detectives to
charge her for first degree homicide even in a case that is 27 years old,"
said Hightower.
Police say Gough is the only suspect in the case and they will interview the
family who currently lives at the home.
We're told the father of that family, Kelly Gough, inherited the home from
his parents years ago, but it's not known if Judy Gough is related to Kelly
Gough.
Police continue their investigation for more clues.
"They are calling in expertise that does exists with Boise Police
Department, and are also calling in expertise from the Ada county Coroner's
Office to help search for evidence both inside and outside of the house,"
said Hightower.
At this time, police aren't releasing the name of the victim.
Meanwhile, Judy Gough is expected to be arraigned on Monday, then possibly
transferred to the Ada County Jail.
Boise Police are expected to remain at the home through the weekend.
One neighbor says there are at least three children, a man and woman living
at the house.
They were not home at the time police moved in, but detectives are expected
to talk with them as soon as possible.
Kris Baker
"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote in message
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>
> http://crimeblog.us/?p=573
>
> A Thomas Gough was listed as the owner of 4705 Clark as recently as 2006.
> Other databases show that in 2004 a 40-year-old woman named Gough was
> listed at the same
> residence — she had the same name as a well-known anti-abortion activist
> from Boise.
If this IS the anti-abortion activist (and the age is correct),
she not only is related to a murderer, but has ties to Larry
Craig and his supporters in the "Idaho Values Alliance".
Barbara Gough claims to have had a "crisis abortion" in
1985.
Sounds like a sad, sad, family.
Kris Baker
Idaho Press-Tribune Staff
news...@idahopress.com
Updated 1 hour 37 minutes ago
BOISE — Small bones from a human hand and foot have been recovered from a
Boise home believed to be the scene of a murder 27 years ago, according to a
coroner's report.
Officials also recovered other "fragments" from the home, the report said,
and further studies will be conducted to test whether they are human as
well.
Officials are not publicly releasing the identity of the homicide victim
until family members have been notified.
Boise Police officers ended their search of the home, located on the 4700
block of Clark Street in Boise, this afternoon, police said.
Judy Gough, a 61-year-old Nampa women, was arrested Friday as the only
suspect connected to the murder case. She will have a video arraignment
today at 1:30 in Ada County where it is expected a preliminary hearing will
be scheduled. She is charged with first-degree murder.
----------------------------------------
Ago@faraway JonesieCat
> Update: Bones found at 27-year-old crime scene
> Idaho Press-Tribune Staff
> news...@idahopress.com
> Updated 1 hour 37 minutes ago
> a coroner's report.
>
> Officials also recovered other "fragments" from the home, the report said,
> and further studies will be conducted to test whether they are human as
> well.
> Officials are not publicly releasing the identity of the homicide victim
> until family members have been notified.
>
> Boise Police officers ended their search of the home, located on the 4700
> block of Clark Street in Boise, this afternoon, police said.
>
> Judy Gough, a 61-year-old Nampa women, was arrested Friday as the only
> suspect connected to the murder case. She will have a video arraignment
> today at 1:30 in Ada County where it is expected a preliminary hearing
> will be scheduled. She is charged with first-degree murder.
>
> ----------------------------------------
It almost had to be the discovery of a body - what used to be a body - that
set all this in motion. I always wonder about the perps in these cases. Do
they think their previous house will remain standing forever? back yards
never get dug up? homes don't get remodelled? I guess she put it out of her
mind somehow. Police must know who the dead person is, to have charged her
so fast. Thanks for posting this mystery. Small bones from a hand. Lucky to
be found and recog'd as human then. Who, I wonder?
jc
Kris Baker
"JonesieCat" <Long Ago@Far Away> wrote in message
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Her husband. Or the kid who got her daughter pregnant, when
her daughter needed the "crisis abortion".
The husband's name's been on the title of the home all along,
or at least until around 2006....but there's no mention of him.
Maybe she told the kid(s) that he ran away?
Kris
Chocolic
Strange no other family members noticed him (or whoever) was missing.
I wonder where the body was found. Gawd, the smell of rotting flesh, such
as from a dead animal, is gagging. Imagine a whole body.
Chocolic
Michael Snyder
My bets would go to (a) her husband or (b) a child (hers), though
I have no knowledge about who if anyone might be missing.
It could be a death that was known but not thought to be a homicide.
They may have exhumed a body and found a bullet in it (following
the tip).
Michael Snyder
"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote in message
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> Idaho Press-Tribune Staff
> news...@idahopress.com
> Updated 1 hour 37 minutes ago
> Boise home believed to be the scene of a murder 27 years ago, according to
a
> coroner's report.
Well, that sort of eliminates someone who was buried legitimately
but with a supposed cause of death other than homicide.
Sounds like someone's body was dismembered and disposed of.
Unles the hand- and foot-bones were present in the house because
that's where she shot the person (in the hand and foot, that is).
Kris Baker
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>
> In Message-ID:<NIeMi.53536$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net> posted
> on Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:41:49 GMT, Kris Baker wrote: Begin
>
>>Maybe she told the kid(s) that he ran away?
>
Kolob.
Kris
Kris Baker
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....and the bone particles were found *in* the home.
They're still not giving clues, because they want to wait to notify
the relatives. Well, hell.....who's left to notify except the woman
they arrested and the people (her son and his family?) who lived
in the home?
Kris
Marianna
> >> The husband's name's been on the title of the home all along,
> >> or at least until around 2006....but there's no mention of him.
> >> Maybe she told the kid(s) that he ran away?
> >> Kris
> > Strange no other family members noticed him (or whoever) was missing.
> > I wonder where the body was found. Gawd, the smell of rotting flesh, such
> > as from a dead animal, is gagging. Imagine a whole body.
> > Chocolic
> ....and the bone particles were found *in* the home.
> They're still not giving clues, because they want to wait to notify
> the relatives. Well, hell.....who's left to notify except the woman
> they arrested and the people (her son and his family?) who lived
> in the home?
> Kris
Maybe they're waiting to see if someone else comes forward who either
has info or is involved; maybe they have their eye on someone. I
dunno, because otherwise- yeah, who else is there?
Marianna
tripso...@msn.com
Good lord, this woman is a piece of work. Involving her kid?
Disgusting.
http://www.idahopress.com?id=1002
More details emerge from 1980 murder
Idaho Press-Tribune Staff
news...@idahopress.com?
Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007
BOISE?
More alleged details about a murder police say a Nampa woman committed
in Boise 27 years ago have emerged in a court hearing.
According to? KTRV Channel 12, which aired some audio from its news
broadcast Monday night, a detective explained how authorities believe
Judy Gough set out to murder her husband before allegedly burying him
in the back yard of her Boise home in April 1980.
Citing court documents, the station reported that Gough's daughter,
who was 12 at the time, covered her mother's ears as Judy Gough
allegedly shot a drugged Lloyd Ford with a rifle.
She was tasked to help her mother move him on a sheet in the home and
place him in a trunk, which was later used to bury him," KTRV quoted a
detective as saying.
According to a detective quoted by the station,? Gough initially
incapacitated Ford with a drug-laced dessert.
(Gough) decided on using sleeping medication, ground up, and put it in
his ice cream, caramel topping on it and served him, the detective was
quoted as saying.
According to a coroner's report, small human bones of the hand and
foot have been recovered from the home, located at 4705 Clark Street
in Boise.
The report also indicated that police had discovered other fragments
in the residence, and that those would be further studied to determine
whether they are also human.
According to KTRV, officials obtained a recorded phone conversation
made Friday between Gough and her daughter in which Gough allegedly
admitted to the killing.
Gough's bond was set for $500,000, and she was scheduled to appear
next in court at 8:30 a.m. Oct. 15 with Ada County Magistrate John
Vehlow.
Officials arrested Gough Friday near her Nampa home on a charge of
first-degree murder.
She was initially booked into Canyon County jail around 4 p.m. Friday,
but after a Canyon County arraignment, was transferred to Ada County.
Gough was arraigned on an additional charge of felony use of a firearm.
This is Boise's ninth homicide investigation this year.
Kris Baker
More details emerge from 1980 murder
news...@idahopress.com
Updated 16 hours 45 minutes ago
BOISE - More alleged details about a murder police say a Nampa woman
According to KTRV Channel 12, which aired some audio from its news
broadcast Monday night, a detective explained how authorities believe Judy
Gough set out to murder her husband before allegedly burying him in the back
yard of her Boise home in April 1980.
Citing court documents, the station reported that Gough's daughter, who was
12 at the time, covered her mother's ears as Judy Gough allegedly shot a
drugged Lloyd Ford with a rifle.
"She was tasked to help her mother move him on a sheet in the home and place
him in a trunk, which was later used to bury him," KTRV quoted a detective
as saying.
According to a detective quoted by the station, Gough initially
incapacitated Ford with a drug-laced dessert.
"(Gough) decided on using sleeping medication, ground up, and put it in his
ice cream, caramel topping on it and served him," the detective was quoted
as saying.
According to a coroner's report, "small human bones of the hand and foot
have been recovered" from the home, located at 4705 Clark Street in Boise.
Kris Baker
No wonder no one missed (step, I guess) daddy, they all helped plan!
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-oct0207-gough_murder.12fd9e81e.html
BOISE -- After nearly three decades of secrecy, revelations in an apparent
murder case are coming to light.
Sixty-one-year-old Judy Gough is charged with killing her husband 27 years
ago.
It's believed the human remains unearthed in the backyard of Gough's former
Boise home are that of Lloyd Ford.
In the probable cause hearing on Friday, prosecutors told the judge it is
Gough's adult daughter who witnessed the killing and is now coming forward
after all these years.
"It came to the attention of the Boise Police Department that a woman who is
now about 40, had witnessed a crime, had witnessed her mother, Judy Gough,
shoot her stepfather back in 1980 when the woman was only 12 years old. She
said that, a couple weeks prior to this incident, her mother had proposed
different options on how to kill Lloyd and decided on using sleeping
medication ground up and put into his ice cream with caramel topping on it
and serving that to him," from the probable cause hearing."
Gough was arraigned in Ada County court Monday and is being held on $500,000
bond.
Michael Snyder
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Michael Snyder
of the daughter will be alleged?
Considering that, after 27 years, there is no hope in hell
of the deceased being defended against such allegations?
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Bill Shroyer
<kris....@prodigyyy.net> wrote:
> The family helped plan the murder:
>
> No wonder no one missed (step, I guess) daddy, they all helped plan!
"Goodbye, Earl!"
Them Dixie Chicks - they must be psychic.... :-#
Ago@faraway JonesieCat
Question is, why is the daughter coming fwd now? Attack of conscience? Mad
at Mom? Both? Wonder if per chance the daughter has a daughter herself these
days? Around 12 or so?
jc
Marianna
> > Good lord, this woman is a piece of work. Involving her kid?
> > Disgusting.
> >http://www.idahopress.com?id=1002
> > in Boise 27 years ago have emerged in a court hearing.
> > According to? KTRV Channel 12, which aired some audio from its news
> > broadcast Monday night, a detective explained how authorities believe
> > Judy Gough set out to murder her husband before allegedly burying him
> > in the back yard of her Boise home in April 1980.
>
> > Citing court documents, the station reported that Gough's daughter,
> > who was 12 at the time, covered her mother's ears as Judy Gough
> > allegedly shot a drugged Lloyd Ford with a rifle.
> > She was tasked to help her mother move him on a sheet in the home and
> > place him in a trunk, which was later used to bury him," KTRV quoted a
> > detective as saying.
>
> > According to a detective quoted by the station,? Gough initially
> > incapacitated Ford with a drug-laced dessert.
> > (Gough) decided on using sleeping medication, ground up, and put it in
> > his ice cream, caramel topping on it and served him, the detective was
> > quoted as saying.
>
> > According to a coroner's report, small human bones of the hand and
> > foot have been recovered from the home, located at 4705 Clark Street
> > in Boise.
On Oct 3, 2:37 am, "Michael Snyder" <msny...@socmen.org> wrote:
> Bets on whether this one's sentence will exceed Mary Winkler's?
Depends on whether or not they dig up any high heels or feather boas
with the bone fragments, I guess.
Marianna
and yes, that is a joke, and it's not meant to poke you, Snyder
Kris Baker
"JonesieCat" <Long Ago@Far Away> wrote in message
It's still looking like the now 40-year-old daughter is the
"prominent anti-abortion activist" who had an abortion
just a few years after this murder. She's the one who's
been affiliated with family-friendly "Larry Craig" <ahem>.
Maybe she's trying to clean her conscience, or wants
to sell the house and you very well can't with body
parts in the back yard.
Kris
Michael Snyder
"Marianna" <nomiddle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I took it at face value. Hooks in rather well with my other post
on the thread -- bets on how soon they invoke the abuse excuse?
Ago@faraway JonesieCat
> to sell the house and you very well can't with body
> parts in the back yard.
>
> Kris
So inconvenient, those bits.
jc
Marianna
> > > Bets on whether this one's sentence will exceed Mary Winkler's?
> > Depends on whether or not they dig up any high heels or feather boas
> > with the bone fragments, I guess.
>
> > Marianna
> > and yes, that is a joke, and it's not meant to poke you, Snyder
> I took it at face value. Hooks in rather well with my other post
> on the thread -- bets on how soon they invoke the abuse excuse?
I doubt that claiming abuse would get her off whatever charges she
gets for having involved her daughter, a minor child- was that her
father, BTW?
But you know, if Phil Spector can essentially get off for what he did,
I guess anything's possible in court. :p
Marianna
tiny dancer
Let's not forget O.J.
td
>
>
Kris Baker
support while she was in college.
http://www.fox12news.com/Global/story.asp?S=7154685
Boise, Idaho -- The murder investigation into a 27-year-old crime continues,
but we now know why a Nampa woman says she killed her husband and buried him
in their backyard.
The decades-old crime probably would have gone unnoticed until last week,
when the suspected killer's daughter decided to come forward. The woman, now
40, was only 12 when her step-dad died. Court documents spell out exactly
how she allegedly helped her mom kill him.
Judy Rae Gough, 61, faced a judge for the first time on murder charges,
Monday afternoon. All weekend, Boise Police detectives searched her former
home on the 4700 block of Clark Street for evidence after receiving a tip
about a homicide there.
It turns out, Gough's daughter was the one who called police. She told
detectives about how her mother was proposing to kill her step-dad, Lloyd
Ford, nearly 30 years ago.
"Decided on using sleeping medication, ground up, and put it in his ice
cream caramel topping on it and served him," said a detective in the
probable-cause hearing held Friday.
After he was incapacitated, detectives say Gough moved him out of bed to the
floor. Gough's daughter then covered her mother's ears as she used a deer
rifle to shoot him.
"She was tasked to help her mother move him on a sheet in the home and place
him in a trunk, which was later used to bury him," said the detective.
The crime was alleged to have happened back in April of 1980. That's when
Ford's daughter, who was going to college out of state, stopped receiving
child support payments from him.
"A check came every month without fail until her junior year, which was
April of 1980, when she was attending the University of Nebraska," said the
detective.
The weekly phone calls with her dad ended, too. And when she tried to
contact him, Gough told her Ford had run off with another woman. Ford's
first wife also became suspicious of his disappearance and traced his social
security number which had not been used since 1980. But the crime finally
came to light Friday morning, when Gough's daughter made a recorded phone
call to her mother.
"Judy made acknowledgements that she had killed Lloyd Ford. She stated she
did it because she was afraid. She was trying to protect the family," said
the detective.
Gough also said that if police ever found out about the crime, she'd kill
herself.
The Ada County coroner has removed small human bones of a hand and foot from
Gough's old home and is working to positively identify them.
Right now, Gough is the only person charged in this case and the only
suspect. She's being held on $500,000 bond. Her next court appearance is set
for Oct. 15.
Michael Snyder
> > I took it at face value. Hooks in rather well with my other post
> > on the thread -- bets on how soon they invoke the abuse excuse?
>
> I doubt that claiming abuse would get her off whatever charges she
> gets for having involved her daughter, a minor child- was that her
> father, BTW?
I never would have believed that claiming abuse would get Mary
Winkler off, and she didn't exactly keep her kids at arms length
either. No, the victim was the stepfather.
>
> But you know, if Phil Spector can essentially get off for what he did,
> I guess anything's possible in court. :p
I don't follow the case, but from what I've heard just today,
he certainly has not "essentially gotten off". He's to have a
new trial, that's all. Not exactly a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Michael Snyder
> Someone DID miss Lloyd Ford: his daughter, who quit receiving child
> support while she was in college.
Well that's nice... he was missed for his money.
> http://www.fox12news.com/Global/story.asp?S=7154685
>
> Boise, Idaho -- The murder investigation into a 27-year-old crime
continues,
> but we now know why a Nampa woman says she killed her husband and buried
him
> in their backyard.
Ummm, no we don't. "She was afraid". That's all it says.
If you're looking for a reason, save yourself the trouble.
Clock is ticking on that abuse excuse, though. Bets?
Anyone?
No one?
Ago@faraway JonesieCat
I find this para confusing. Can someone set me straight? The killer told
Ford's daughter, in 1980, over the phone, that he'd run off with another
woman. Right? Ford's first wife must be that daughter's mother. Right? And
the first wife traced his social security number. Right? When did she do
that? 1980? Or 2007? Then the killer's own daughter decided to come clean &
told the police, and called the killer (her mother, who she'd assisted),
right? And that phone call was recorded, presumably by LE. And that's how
they got enough on the killer to arrest her. Right? Sheesh. Pronouns are
confusing sometimes.
jc
Ago@faraway JonesieCat
I think it was her step-father. IIUC.
jc
Marianna
> > I doubt that claiming abuse would get her off whatever charges she
> > gets for having involved her daughter, a minor child- was that her
> > father, BTW?
> I never would have believed that claiming abuse would get Mary
> Winkler off, and she didn't exactly keep her kids at arms length
> either. No, the victim was the stepfather.
I wasn't all that surprised about Winkler, because of the religion
factor. Disappointed yes, but not shocked. And if this Gough woman
wanted to get rid of the guy, why drug and shoot him? Why not drug and
suffocate him? That wouldn't have required anyone else's involvement
if he was incapacitated. I mean, she can't claim it was "heat of the
moment" or that she " just snapped" if she drugged him first.
> > But you know, if Phil Spector can essentially get off for what he did,
> > I guess anything's possible in court. :p
> I don't follow the case, but from what I've heard just today,
> he certainly has not "essentially gotten off". He's to have a
> new trial, that's all. Not exactly a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Yeah, I know, he's not OJ-free, but he's going to be free as a bird
for the foreseeable future. There was a news story about how his
lawyers all quit, so it will take even longer for a new trial to start
now than before (since whoever he hires new needs time to prepare).
I'm aghast that a jury deadlocked on his case to begin with and
frankly not all that optimistic about a second one.
Marianna
Michael Snyder
> On Oct 3, 11:34 pm, "Michael Snyder" <msny...@socmen.org> wrote:
>
> > > I doubt that claiming abuse would get her off whatever charges she
> > > gets for having involved her daughter, a minor child- was that her
> > > father, BTW?
>
> > I never would have believed that claiming abuse would get Mary
> > Winkler off, and she didn't exactly keep her kids at arms length
> > either. No, the victim was the stepfather.
>
> I wasn't all that surprised about Winkler, because of the religion
> factor. Disappointed yes, but not shocked. And if this Gough woman
> wanted to get rid of the guy, why drug and shoot him? Why not drug and
> suffocate him? That wouldn't have required anyone else's involvement
> if he was incapacitated. I mean, she can't claim it was "heat of the
> moment" or that she " just snapped" if she drugged him first.
I don't understand why shooting required anyone else's involvement.
Yes, I read the report that she asked her daughter to cover her (the
mother's) ears while she shot him, but that's just laughable.
Seems to me that suffocation would be more effort than shooting.
Kris Baker
"JonesieCat" <Long Ago@Far Away> wrote in message
>
>
> I find this para confusing. Can someone set me straight? The killer told
> Ford's daughter, in 1980, over the phone, that he'd run off with another
> woman. Right? Ford's first wife must be that daughter's mother. Right? And
> the first wife traced his social security number. Right? When did she do
> that? 1980? Or 2007? Then the killer's own daughter decided to come clean
> & told the police, and called the killer (her mother, who she'd assisted),
> right? And that phone call was recorded, presumably by LE. And that's how
> they got enough on the killer to arrest her. Right? Sheesh. Pronouns are
> confusing sometimes.
>
> jc
Wife Two Ford (Judy Gough) told Daughter Ford that Husband Ford had run off
with another woman. Yes, that's the daughter of Wife One Ford. Wife One
Ford even learned that Ford's social security number hadn't been used since
1980.
Judy Gough's daughter (who helped kill him) called 911 (always recorded) and
told police about it.
BUT. What would the motive be *except* abuse?
Ford was never reported missing, or dead (no life insurance gain). Judy
Gough never even took his name off the home. I;m wonderingif Ford was
caught abusing Daughter Gough (now the anti-abortion activist). I keep
wondering about the dates, and if there's any connection to Ford and the
"crisis abortion".
Kris
Ago@faraway JonesieCat
Gough may claim Ford was the father of the aborted child, whether he was or
not. And hopes the daughter will back her up. Mother can even say she
believed it to be Ford's child even if daughter says differently.
I still don't get the first wife checking SS. Wouldn't she have done that
early on? Or what? And why did she nor anyone else then report him missing?
Maybe because he did have a rep for doing awful things eg abandonment (and
worse)?
jc
Nancy Rudins
Thanks for clearing that up. My head was hurting.
Kind regards,
Nancy
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Kris Baker
"Nancy Rudins" <nru...@ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:13gb61t...@news.supernews.com...
Good ;)
My head started hurting when it hit our local news
(even though Boise's hours and hours away). When
everything was so secretive, it was maddening.
Then, when we found out that it was a husband with
an ex-wife and daughter, it all made sense.
But my head's still hurting.
Kris
Michael Snyder
> > Kris Baker wrote:
> >> I;m wonderingif
> >> Ford was caught abusing Daughter Gough
Well, that didn't take long...