Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child
Maggie
questioned her interest and good intentions toward her adopted family. This
one's a shocker. From the AP:
Comedian Paula Poundstone Arrested
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Standup comedian Paula Poundstone was arrested Wednesday
and charged with felony lewd acts upon a child and child endangerment, the
district attorney's office said.
Poundstone, 41, was charged with three counts of committing a lewd act on a
girl under the age of 14. She also was charged with endangering another girl
and two boys, according to a statement by Deputy District Attorney Gina
Satriano.
The comedian was arrested in Malibu by Santa Monica police and is being held on
$200,000 bail.
Messages left for Poundstone's publicist, manager and an agent were not
immediately returned Wednesday.
The brassy comic, known for her one-liners about politics and the human
condition, has been a frequent guest on late-night talk shows over the years
and is a regular panelist on the syndicated game show ''To Tell the Truth.''
The single mother of two daughters also starred in the ''Home Movies''
television show.
Maggie
"Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic factor
that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis S.
Collins
Mametsuki
I have to say, child abuse can happen anywhere. Even a female comic. Really
sad. To think of all the children that have been through her care during the
years! Hopefully, this is not true. The two hundred thousand dollar bail leads
me to think that it's true though.
Mametsuki
VonQuark
Mametsuki wrote:
She probably flashed the kids.
In an earlier generation this would have
been dismissed.
Slimpickins
but mainly because she's flat-out Not funny. I can't stand listening to her
for even a minute, as aside from not being able to utter Anything even
slightly funny, she has a horribly loud, screechy sounding voice, that is
sheer awful to listen to, IMO.
I happened to catch the "T.T.T.T" show the other evening while channeling
surfing (through all my many 20 channels to select from ;-) and I remember
thinking how I wished they'd dump/fire her off the panel because she ruined
the whole show by her crassness and her dead-pan, totally Unfunny cracks and
comments.
I also thought that if it weren't for the stupid laugh-track on the show
then you wouldn't have heard a thing, but a thud of dead silence in response
to her unfunny 'jokes'. I Guess she's 'history' on that show now. It's
amazing to me how some* people like herself just exude an oddness and
creepyness.
Slim
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message ..
JonesieCat
"Slimpickins" <Sl...@work.com> wrote in message
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I haven't heard of PP in years. I think I used to like her, but have
forgotten all about her. I'm off to look for a web pic of her. ANd what's
with the references to all her work with children??
JC
Patty
: > *** I'm with you Maggie. I don't understand Ms. Poundstones "appeal"
: I haven't heard of PP in years. I think I used to like her, but have
: forgotten all about her. I'm off to look for a web pic of her. ANd what's
: with the references to all her work with children??
:
: JC
I liked her when she first was on the scene but quickly grew tired of her.
She was really a bore when she did commentary on the democratic
and republican conventions for Jay Leno. I think she did some other
commentaries on other events as well but I stopped watching her. It
was just plain boring, not funny at all. I guess she has to be scripted
in order to have a chance at being funny.
Patty
Mammahi
"Mametsuki" <mame...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010627212154...@ng-fq1.aol.com...
Could taking a child to a movie that was rated R be a lewd act? Could have
been a 911 type Bush twins type situation.
You know, the ticket seller selling the ticket then calling the police.
Just food for thought until we know something.
Anne
Jack Olsen
>factor
>that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
>criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis S.
>Collins
Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
females.
Jack
ZeeNightOwl
Exactly...
Maggie
>>"Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic
>>factor
>>that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
>>criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis
>S.
>>Collins
>
>Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
>females.
***Uh, I think you get it.
Maggie
Maggie
>news:20010627212154...@ng-fq1.aol.com...
>> Not to be vulgar or get too deep in this thread, but just what is a" lewd
>act"?
>> I have to say, child abuse can happen anywhere. Even a female comic.
>Really
>> sad. To think of all the children that have been through her care during
>the
>> years! Hopefully, this is not true. The two hundred thousand dollar bail
>leads
>> me to think that it's true though.
>> Mametsuki
>
>Could taking a child to a movie that was rated R be a lewd act? Could have
>been a 911 type Bush twins type situation.
>You know, the ticket seller selling the ticket then calling the police.
>
>Just food for thought until we know something.
***No--taking a child to an R-rated movie is not performing a lewd act on a
child. The police have said that this investigation has gone on for a long
time and it obviously involves some sort of sexual contact with a child.
Andy Katz
wrote:
>maggie's tag line:
>>>"Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic
>>>factor
>>>that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
>>>criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis
>>S.
>>>Collins
>>
>Jack said:
>>Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
>>females.
>
>***Uh, I think you get it.
What an appropriate thread for this particular discussion;-)
Andy Katz
____________________________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Juvenal
a...@interport.net
Andre...@aol.com
Bastard Nation
http://www.bastards.org
Jack Olsen
>
>
>maggie's tag line:
>>>"Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic
>>>factor
>>>that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
>>>criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis
>>S.
>>>Collins
>>
>Jack said:
>>Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
>>females.
>
>***Uh, I think you get it.
>
>Maggie>
Uh, I think you don't.....
Jack
satujinn
Satujinn
jack1...@aol.com (Jack Olsen) wrote in message news:<20010628033350...@ng-fg1.aol.com>...
satujinn
> She probably flashed the kids.
> In an earlier generation this would have
> been dismissed.
_____________________________________________________________________
VonQuark <vonq...@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<3B3A9C93...@mindspring.com>...
> Mametsuki wrote:
>
> > Not to be vulgar or get too deep in this thread, but just what is a" lewd act"?
__________________________________________________________________________
288. (a) Any person who willfully and lewdly commits any lewd or
lascivious act, including any of the acts constituting other crimes
provided for in Part 1, upon or with the body, or any part or member
thereof, of a child who is under the age of 14 years, with the intent
of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passions, or
sexual desires of that person or the child, is guilty of a felony and
shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three,
six, or eight years.
(b) (1) Any person who commits an act described in subdivision (a)
by use of force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and
unlawful bodily injury on the victim or another person, is guilty of
a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison
for three, six, or eight years.
(2) Any person who is a caretaker and commits an act described in
subdivision (a) upon a dependent adult by use of force, violence,
duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful bodily injury on
the victim or another person, with the intent described in
subdivision (a), is guilty of a felony and shall be punished by
imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or eight years.
(c) (1) Any person who commits an act described in subdivision (a)
with the intent described in that subdivision, and the victim is a
child of 14 or 15 years, and that person is at least 10 years older
than the child, is guilty of a public offense and shall be punished
by imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years, or
by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year. In
determining whether the person is at least 10 years older than the
child, the difference in age shall be measured from the birth date of
the person to the birth date of the child.
(2) Any person who is a caretaker and commits an act described in
subdivision (a) upon a dependent adult, with the intent described in
subdivision (a), is guilty of a public offense and shall be punished
by imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years, or
by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year.
(d) In any arrest or prosecution under this section or Section
288.5, the peace officer, district attorney, and the court shall
consider the needs of the child victim and shall do whatever is
necessary, within existing budgetary resources, and constitutionally
permissible to prevent psychological harm to the child victim or to
prevent psychological harm to the dependent adult victim resulting
from participation in the court process.
(e) Upon the conviction of any person for a violation of
subdivision (a) or (b), the court may, in addition to any other
penalty or fine imposed, order the defendant to pay an additional
fine not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000). In setting the
amount of the fine, the court shall consider any relevant factors,
including, but not limited to, the seriousness and gravity of the
offense, the circumstances of its commission, whether the defendant
derived any economic gain as a result of the crime, and the extent to
which the victim suffered economic losses as a result of the crime.
Every fine imposed and collected under this section shall be
deposited in the Victim-Witness Assistance Fund to be available for
appropriation to fund child sexual exploitation and child sexual
abuse victim counseling centers and prevention programs pursuant to
Section 13837.
If the court orders a fine imposed pursuant to this subdivision,
the actual administrative cost of collecting that fine, not to exceed
2 percent of the total amount paid, may be paid into the general
fund of the county treasury for the use and benefit of the county.
(f) For purposes of paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) and paragraph
(2) of subdivision (c), the following definitions apply:
(1) "Caretaker" means an owner, operator, administrator, employee,
independent contractor, agent, or volunteer of any of the following
public or private facilities when the facilities provide care for
elder or dependent adults:
(A) Twenty-four hour health facilities, as defined in Sections
1250, 1250.2, and 1250.3 of the Health and Safety Code.
(B) Clinics.
(C) Home health agencies.
(D) Adult day health care centers.
(E) Secondary schools that serve dependent adults ages 18 to 22
years and postsecondary educational institutions that serve dependent
adults or elders.
(F) Sheltered workshops.
(G) Camps.
(H) Community care facilities, as defined by Section 1402 of the
Health and Safety Code, and residential care facilities for the
elderly, as defined in Section 1569.2 of the Health and Safety Code.
(I) Respite care facilities.
(J) Foster homes.
(K) Regional centers for persons with developmental disabilities.
(L) A home health agency licensed in accordance with Chapter 8
(commencing with Section 1725) of Division 2 of the Health and Safety
Code.
(M) An agency that supplies in-home supportive services.
(N) Board and care facilities.
(O) Any other protective or public assistance agency that provides
health services or social services to elder or dependent adults,
including, but not limited to, in-home supportive services, as
defined in Section 14005.14 of the Welfare and Institutions Code.
(P) Private residences.
(2) "Board and care facilities" means licensed or unlicensed
facilities that provide assistance with one or more of the following
activities:
(A) Bathing.
(B) Dressing.
(C) Grooming.
(D) Medication storage.
(E) Medical dispensation.
(F) Money management.
(3) "Dependent adult" means any person 18 years of age or older
who has a mental disability or disorder that restricts his or her
ability to carry out normal activities or to protect his or her
rights, including, but not limited to, persons who have developmental
disabilities, persons whose mental abilities have significantly
diminished because of age.
(g) Paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) and paragraph (2) of
subdivision (c) apply to the owners, operators, administrators,
employees, independent contractors, agents, or volunteers working at
these public or private facilities and only to the extent that the
individuals personally commit, conspire, aid, abet, or facilitate any
act prohibited by paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) and paragraph (2)
of subdivision (c).
(h) Paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) and paragraph (2) of
subdivision (c) do not apply to a caretaker who is a spouse of, or
who is in an equivalent domestic relationship with, the dependent
adult under care.
eri...@webtv.net
of Michael Jackson!!!!...Erin
tippy boy
proposing to all that they are leading a 'normal family life?' Just who
do they think they're fooling?? Rich
Jack Olsen
>from?
>
>Satujinn
>
>jack1...@aol.com (Jack Olsen) wrote in message
>> Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
females. >>
Apparently this complex matter is sailing high above your head, as it is
Maggie's. The Collins reference is not to the appearance of the Y chromosome
(which all males have) but to the appearance of an extra Y chromosome -- the
47XYY makeup, or supermale syndrome. This has been discussed and debated ever
since its discovery in 1961, with wildly varying conclusions. Arthur
Shawcross, "the Rochester killer," was a 47XYY.
Early tests in one prison hospital showed the incidence of 47XYY males to be
twenty times higher than normal. But geneticist Dr. Arthur Robinson followed a
selected group of 39 XYY males aged 10 to 22 and observed no tendency to
violent behavior. It appears that the jury is still out.
Where "babys" come from? Uh -- duh -- that one stumps me. Maybe Maggie knows.
Jack
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." -- A. Pope
Jack
Maggie
>come
>>from?
>>
>>Satujinn
>>
>>jack1...@aol.com (Jack Olsen) wrote in message
>
>
>>> Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would
>be
>females. >>
>
>Apparently this complex matter is sailing high above your head, as it is
>Maggie's. The Collins reference is not to the appearance of the Y chromosome
>(which all males have) but to the appearance of an extra Y chromosome --
>the
>47XYY makeup, or supermale syndrome. This has been discussed and debated
>ever
>since its discovery in 1961, with wildly varying conclusions. Arthur
>Shawcross, "the Rochester killer," was a 47XYY.
>
>Early tests in one prison hospital showed the incidence of 47XYY males
>to be
>twenty times higher than normal. But geneticist Dr. Arthur Robinson followed
>a
>selected group of 39 XYY males aged 10 to 22 and observed no tendency to
>violent behavior. It appears that the jury is still out.
>
>Where "babys" come from? Uh -- duh -- that one stumps me. Maybe Maggie knows.
***Jack, you're making a fool of yourself. This has absolutely nothing to do
with the long since discredited XYY theory. It comes directly from an article
in the June 25, 2001, New Republic magazine titled "Heredity and Humanity."
You'll find the quote near the bottom of page 28 in the third column. It may
also be available on-line. The sentence following the sentences I quoted
reads, "No one has suggested that all those who possess this genetic
marker--that is, all males--ought to be seen as lacking free will or inherently
possessing criminal intent."
What a shame that it all went over your head.
Maggie
Michael Newton
tippy boy <peac...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:13404-3B3...@storefull-175.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
> What is it with all these lesbians wanting to have children and
> proposing to all that they are leading a 'normal family life?' Just who
> do they think they're fooling??
Apparently they're fooling the FBI and police of all nations, for starters,
since the majority of convicted child molesters remain male. As to whether
they're "lesbians" or not, perhaps you could go under cover and find out?
mn
Jack Olsen
See "The Misbegotten Son," pp 427-512, where the subject is thoroughly aired in
a non-ambiguous manner.
Mametsuki
investigated for MONTHS! They have her on three separate days involved with
this crime. Thank you for clarifying just what constitutes a "lewd act". I feel
so sorry for those poor kids. Are they under another's care now? How about her
adopted children?
Mametsuki
Nancy Rudins
|> >What a shame that it all went over your head.>>
|>
|> See "The Misbegotten Son," pp 427-512, where the subject is thoroughly aired in
|> a non-ambiguous manner.
|>
|>
|> Jack
|> "A little learning is a dangerous thing." -- A. Pope
|>
The 47XYY syndrome? It was fascinating.
Kind regards,
Nancy
--
unix: panic[cpu0]/thread=4003fe60: Out of Coffee!
Nancy Rudins nru...@ncsa.uiuc.edu
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/People/nrudins/
Maggie
>
>See "The Misbegotten Son," pp 427-512, where the subject is thoroughly aired
>in
>a non-ambiguous manner.
***Is this your way of saying, "sorry, I misunderstood"?
Matt Miller
says...
Here's the law.
288. (a) Any person who willfully and lewdly commits any lewd or
lascivious act, including any of the acts constituting other crimes
provided for in Part 1, upon or with the body, or any part or member
thereof, of a child who is under the age of 14 years, with the intent
of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passions, or
sexual desires of that person or the child, is guilty of a felony and
shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three,
six, or eight years.
--
Matt Miller
"The Dumber people think you are,
the more surprised they will be
when you kill them"
-William Clayton
Earthlink Sucks
ZeeNightOwl
>some kids got together and decided to report her for kicks. I mean,
>you never know who is going to abuse a child based on how they look
>from the outside, and I know the police have to investigate, but,
>geez, I just can't see her doing this.
I like Paula Poundstone, too, but I can't say whether I could "see her doing
this", because I don't know what "this" is.
Jack Olsen
Are you the same Maggie who just the other day referred to certain members as
"stupid"? Your tagline (from genome researcher Collins, as turgidly
paraphrased) seems to be a reminder that we males are more violent than you
females. Now that is one hell of a discovery and well worth the repetition.
Thanks.
Jack
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." A. Pope.
Jack
Maggie
>Are you the same Maggie who just the other day referred to certain members
>as
>"stupid"? Your tagline (from genome researcher Collins, as turgidly
>paraphrased) seems to be a reminder that we males are more violent than
>you
>females. Now that is one hell of a discovery and well worth the repetition.
>Thanks.
***Are you the same Jack Olsen who said that the point of the quote I use as my
tagline "sailed over my head"? If so, the repetition was not quite sufficient
to get it through to you, was it?
Thanks.
Jack Olsen
>my tagline "sailed over my head"
Si, lo mismo.
NEON NAPPI
From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
On 28 Jun 2001 13:15:12 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
wrote:
>maggie's tag line:
>>>"Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic
>>>factor
>>>that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
>>>criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis
>>S.
>>>Collins
>>
>Jack said:
>>Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
>>females.
>
>***Uh, I think you get it.
/What an appropriate thread for this particular discussion;-)
/Andy Katz
____________________________________
Fuck you *Andy* and the sock you rode in on.
Barbara
NEON NAPPI
From: maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
Maggie
Oh for Godssake Maggie. Jack did extensive research on this subject when he was
researching The Misbegotten Son.
We had this discussion before, there is some evidence that the theory has been
debunked in certain circles. However, it's not a consensus and as Jack says,
from what I've read, the jury is still out on it.
Barbara
NEON NAPPI
From: jack1...@aol.com (Jack Olsen)
Jack
******
IIRC it was the combination of the extra Y chromosome with the elevated
kryptopyrrole not just the extra Y chromosome by itself .
Barbara<---------keeps The Misbegotten Son close by at all times as a reference
Stick Insect
masturbation /attempted masturbation (i.e. "fondling").
SI
George Byrd
on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote:
>From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
>/What an appropriate thread for this particular discussion;-)
>
>/Andy Katz
>____________________________________
>
>Fuck you *Andy* and the sock you rode in on.
>
>Barbara
Uh, Barbara, I think this is *the* Andy Katz, one of the most sane and
decent folks you'll ever find on usenet, who should be a welcome
newcomer to a.t-c. I can be fooled by forgers, but I think the
headers are real and historically consistent. This is no sock, unless
you know something about Andy that I don't, which is possible of
course.
GB <-- coaxing Barbara for dirt on Andy
Kathy
What is it with all these straight men wanting to have kids and then
molesting them? That's a "normal" life?
Kathy
Arthur Luxury-Yacht
> Not to be vulgar or get too deep in this thread, but just what is a" lewd act"?
> I have to say, child abuse can happen anywhere. Even a female comic. Really
> sad. To think of all the children that have been through her care during the
> years! Hopefully, this is not true. The two hundred thousand dollar bail leads
> me to think that it's true though.
> Mametsuki
She is a celebrity so it will come out that it is the children's fault
(OJ Simpson defense). The lefty media has already made Mrs. Yates
into the victim.
Does anyone know of any unmarried female celebs who have adopted
children who are pedophiles?
PLMerite
"Kathy" <kb...@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:3B3BBFCE...@bellatlantic.net...
> Kathy
Obviously they're successfully fooling at least one person.
Regards, PLMerite
Maggie
>***Jack, you're making a fool of yourself. This has absolutely nothing
>to do
>with the long since discredited XYY theory. It comes directly from an article
>in the June 25, 2001, New Republic magazine titled "Heredity and Humanity."
>
>You'll find the quote near the bottom of page 28 in the third column. It
>may
>also be available on-line. The sentence following the sentences I quoted
>reads, "No one has suggested that all those who possess this genetic
>marker--that is, all males--ought to be seen as lacking free will or
inherently
>possessing criminal intent."
>
>What a shame that it all went over your head.
barbara said:
>Oh for Godssake Maggie. Jack did extensive research on this subject when
>he was
>researching The Misbegotten Son.
***I know--I read it years ago. But the fact that a person with a hammer
believes everything is a nail doesn't excuse him for saying the point of my own
quote "sailed over my head." That's my beef--not whatever he may or may not
know about a completely different issue.
Maggie
Osmo Ronkanen
jack1...@aol.com (Jack Olsen wrote:
>
>Every male has the Y chromosome. Males without the Y chromosome would be
>females.
Actually things are not that simple. The chromosomes do not
directly determine the gender.
Osmo
Maggie
>Does anyone know of any unmarried female celebs who have adopted
>children who are pedophiles?
***Ick! Who'd want to adopt those kind of children?
NEON NAPPI
From: geo...@apan.org (George Byrd)
>From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
Well, thanks for the heads up George. I was gone for awhile and arent familiar
with all of the *new* faces.
I may have mistaken his remark for one that one of our very favourite posters
might have made to Jack, and if I have misunderstood, I apologize (not to
you....to Andy who may not be listening:)
Barbara
satujinn
Magpie, but for christ sakes it is HER tag line. I believe her INTENT
was to poke fun at the idea that all men are more prone to crime and
or bad behavior. So while you may JACK off into a lab rats face your
scientific conclusions are not germain to her tag line. You are one
thick headed son of a bitch aren't you?
Is...isn't...is to...is not
I mean what do you really hope to prove here? Do you really think
that you can tell Magpie what the INTENT of her tag line is? What a
JACKass.
Satujinn
neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote in message news:<20010628145513...@ng-bh1.aol.com>...
George Byrd
I've participated incidently in various threads in various froups with
Andy for many years. He is definitely not she whose virulent presence
disgusts the decent, nor he of evermorphing headers and one note
diatribe, nor the raving loony captain, neither a zit from the flood
to stop spammers domain, nor anyone else for whom you might have
mistaken him.
So, c'mon back Andy. The coast is as clear as it ever gets here.
GB
Hester Mofet
>Believe it's a bit more serious than simply 'flashing' a child. Shades
>of Michael Jackson!!!!...Erin
>
I wonder if this was a case where she was set up by some of these kids. It's
amazing what they will lie about if it either keeps them out of trouble or gets
someone they are mad at into trouble. Some foster kids (especially older ones
who have been in the system a long time) tend to be quite manipulative and good
at lying. When I worked in the group home, one woman was rumored to keep a
liquor bottle behind the freezer, a man reportedly fondled a girl's leg and
another man was accused of smoking crack in front of the kids. It was
interesting that all these stories came out after the kids got in trouble. I
hate that bumper sticker that says "Believe the children" because sometimes
kids lie.
Hester Mofet
Mammahi
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
news:20010628091711...@ng-md1.aol.com...
lewd
> >act"?
> >> I have to say, child abuse can happen anywhere. Even a female comic.
> >Really
> >> sad. To think of all the children that have been through her care
during
> >the
> >> years! Hopefully, this is not true. The two hundred thousand dollar
bail
> >leads
> >> me to think that it's true though.
> >> Mametsuki
> >
> >Could taking a child to a movie that was rated R be a lewd act? Could
have
> >been a 911 type Bush twins type situation.
> >You know, the ticket seller selling the ticket then calling the police.
> >
> >Just food for thought until we know something.
>
a
> child. The police have said that this investigation has gone on for a
long
> time and it obviously involves some sort of sexual contact with a child.
>
> Maggie
>
> "Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic
factor
> that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
> criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis S.
> Collins
Thanks for the explanation. I just wasn't sure what all a lewd act
included.
Anne
Mammahi
"Jack Olsen" <jack1...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010628143718...@ng-mp1.aol.com...
WHEEEEeeeeeee! This rides better than six flags!
;-)
Anne
Da' Man
>I don't understand Paula Poundstone's appeal as a comedian, but I never
>questioned her interest and good intentions toward her adopted family. This
>one's a shocker. From the AP:
>
>Comedian Paula Poundstone Arrested
>
>LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Standup comedian Paula Poundstone was arrested Wednesday
>and charged with felony lewd acts upon a child and child endangerment, the
>district attorney's office said.
>
>Poundstone, 41, was charged with three counts of committing a lewd act on a
>girl under the age of 14. She also was charged with endangering another girl
>and two boys, according to a statement by Deputy District Attorney Gina
>Satriano.
>
>The comedian was arrested in Malibu by Santa Monica police and is being held on
>$200,000 bail.
>
>Messages left for Poundstone's publicist, manager and an agent were not
>immediately returned Wednesday.
>
>The brassy comic, known for her one-liners about politics and the human
>condition, has been a frequent guest on late-night talk shows over the years
>and is a regular panelist on the syndicated game show ''To Tell the Truth.''
>
>The single mother of two daughters also starred in the ''Home Movies''
>television show.
>
>
>Maggie
>
>"Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic factor
>that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
>criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis S.
>Collins
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, well, well, how about that, folks!
Does this mean that many WOMEN, like lesbian/feminist Paula Poundstone, with that very
odd looking XX chromosome are _MUCH_ more prone to commiting lesser acts of demented,
twisted so-called "non-violent" behaviors, then most men, Maggie ?
Yes, I should think that the research, done over the last three decades show that it does!
Hey, maybe we should BAN all people equipped with Vagina's, eh, Maggie ? ;-)
Idaho
People in wacky California (with enough money) buy and sell children like
normal people buy toaster ovens.
Namely and mainly - CELEBRITIES.
Want a kid? Pick one up at the local market...
....get the agent or managment to organize it....
Cruise & Rosie are a couple of Great examples.
A child is another toy for them to play with, nothing more.
If a child - and the upbringing that goes along with one - was important ,
wouldnt they establish a relationship with someone of like mind and make it
happen ?
Worse still - there are many examples of child harvesting for much more
illicit purposes, Michael Jackson being a case in point.
- Tried abusing other peoples kids to no success
- Realized that bio parents dont undergo the same scrutiny - so he "had"
his own.
WIN WIN WIN for MJ!
Michael Newton
Da' Man <dama...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhunjt4s4iflvlo4j...@4ax.com...
> Does this mean that many WOMEN, like lesbian/feminist Paula Poundstone,
with that very
> odd looking XX chromosome are _MUCH_ more prone to commiting lesser acts
of demented,
> twisted so-called "non-violent" behaviors, then most men, Maggie ?
>
> Yes, I should think that the research, done over the last three decades
show that it does!
Don't bother to cite "the research," just keep lobbing those wild
generalizations around like a true scholar.
mn
helloh...@hotmail.com
Andy Katz
>Uh, Barbara, I think this is *the* Andy Katz, one of the most sane and
>decent folks you'll ever find on usenet, who should be a welcome
>newcomer to a.t-c. I can be fooled by forgers, but I think the
>headers are real and historically consistent. This is no sock, unless
>you know something about Andy that I don't, which is possible of
>course.
That's awfully nice of you, George (and may I return the
compliment;-).
Usually when my reputation preceeds me the reaction is different...
>GB <-- coaxing Barbara for dirt on Andy
He he ... careful you don't get buried;-)
Andy Katz
____________________________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Juvenal
a...@interport.net
Andre...@aol.com
Bastard Nation
http://www.bastards.org
Andy Katz
>I may have mistaken his remark for one that one of our very favourite posters
>might have made to Jack, and if I have misunderstood, I apologize (not to
>you....to Andy who may not be listening:)
Apology accepted, Barbara.
The *Andy* part suggested you thought I might be someone else, but I
wasn't sure.
Andy Katz
>So, c'mon back Andy. The coast is as clear as it ever gets here.
Okay, George ... but now you've got to spill; who's this "she" I was
mistaken for and who has apparently left such a wide swath of ill will
and destruction?
NEON NAPPI
From: geo...@apan.org (George Byrd)
In <alt.true-crime>, 28 Jun 2001 22:06:37 GMT,
on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote:
>Well, thanks for the heads up George. I was gone for awhile and arent familiar
>with all of the *new* faces.
>
>I may have mistaken his remark for one that one of our very favourite posters
>might have made to Jack, and if I have misunderstood, I apologize (not to
>you....to Andy who may not be listening:)
/I've participated incidently in various threads in various froups with
/Andy for many years.
I'm more than abashed..............I'm prostrate with fear and
longing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think he'll ever talk to me again?
/He is definitely not she whose virulent presence
/disgusts the decent, nor he of evermorphing headers and one note
/diatribe, nor the raving loony captain, neither a zit from the flood
/to stop spammers domain, nor anyone else for whom you might have
/mistaken him.
I was noticing just how , for lack of a better word, sane this ng has been
since I ventured back, being one of the very last to leave I believe.
Now all we have to do is get Maggie back on Tab and alchohol ( undiluted
Jack!!!!).
/So, c'mon back Andy. The coast is as clear as it ever gets here.
It's the calmest I've ever seen it without it being totally boring.
Barbara<----------fingers crossed
GB
PLMerite
"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
>
> "Researchers have long known that there is one extremely common genetic
factor
> that confers at least a ten-fold increase in the propensity to exhibit
> criminally violent behavior. It is called the Y chromosome."--Francis S.
> Collins
The Y chromosome is also that genetic factor which was ten times more likely
to cause mankind to come down from the trees and out of the caves.
You take the bad with the good. This doesn't excuse the bad, but puts it
into perspective.
Regards, PLMerite
missbabs
"Michael Newton" <eyeo...@att.net> wrote in message news:<%0Y_6.635$Hl1....@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
PLMerite
"Osmo Ronkanen" <ronk...@cc.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
news:9hg6kh$ie2$1...@oravannahka.helsinki.fi...
Uh, they do on *this* planet. A guy in a dress or with a sex change or who
just likes to have sex with other guys is still a male.
Just a really screwed-up one.
> Osmo
NEON NAPPI
From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:20:49 GMT, geo...@apan.org (George Byrd) wrote:
>So, c'mon back Andy. The coast is as clear as it ever gets here.
Okay, George ... but now you've got to spill; who's this "she" I was
mistaken for and who has apparently left such a wide swath of ill will
and destruction?
Andy Katz
____________________________________
Oh Gawd!!!!!!! Can you do it via private email????????????
I admit, I was tiptoeing back into this ng and was extra sensitive to any
perceived attack on Jack.
Mea Culpa!!!
I am so sorry.
How can I make it up to you?
Barbara
Carol
wrote:
I know of folks who have raised foster children and often these foster
parents endure hatred and resntment from the children and it is very
hard to overcome if the child is older than say 8-10 years old. the genes
will tell.... so to speak.
David Crosby's son was on 48 hours last night with his newly discovered
father. Apples do not fall too far from the tree....
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
>
Andy Katz
>I am so sorry.
>How can I make it up to you?
Checks made out to CASH?
Seriously, though, no need. We all make mistakes.
Last year an active poster in another newsgroup that I post to
incidentally (through crossposting) accused me out of the blue of
being an anonymous flamer. He made the accusation, whined about me not
having the "balls" to post under my own name, then promptly killfiled
me before I could even respond.
Now *that's* a pisser.
John Jones
"missbabs" <miss...@home.com> wrote in message
news:b8258f4a.01062...@posting.google.com...
> Hey buddy - take it over the alt.rushlimbaughfans
>
>
Hey, sugar, take it over to rec.sewingcircle.
NEON NAPPI
From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
On 29 Jun 2001 15:13:38 GMT, neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote:
>I am so sorry.
>How can I make it up to you?
Checks made out to CASH?
Seriously, though, no need. We all make mistakes.
Last year an active poster in another newsgroup that I post to
incidentally (through crossposting) accused me out of the blue of
being an anonymous flamer. He made the accusation, whined about me not
having the "balls" to post under my own name, then promptly killfiled
me before I could even respond.
Now *that's* a pisser.
Andy Katz
____________________________________
Someone did that to me here a few years ago. Someone responded to a post and
misattributed some quotes to me. She took great offense and despite the fact
that I reposted the original post to show the error and despite the fact that
I tried to contact her via private email she refused to respond to me.
Looks like being wrong just didnt sit easily on her shoulders.
She still wont talk to me:(
Thanks for your gracious response.
Barbara
JonesieCat
"Andy Katz" <amk*@rcn.net*> wrote in message
news:daapjtk4viviaj5ur...@4ax.com...
> On 29 Jun 2001 15:13:38 GMT, neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote:
>
> >I am so sorry.
> >How can I make it up to you?
>
> Checks made out to CASH?
>
> Seriously, though, no need. We all make mistakes.
>
> Last year an active poster in another newsgroup that I post to
> incidentally (through crossposting) accused me out of the blue of
> being an anonymous flamer. He made the accusation, whined about me not
> having the "balls" to post under my own name, then promptly killfiled
> me before I could even respond.
>
> Now *that's* a pisser.
>
> Andy Katz
Ever think of changing your name?! I also thought you were an "evil troll"
as soon as I saw your name, tho I couldn't remember why I'd had you
killfiled, then Barbara shot past me like a comet and laid it on the line to
you! Anyway, welcome to atc! LOL.
It's a very nice name actually.
JonesieCat
shar...@mindspring.com
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:20:49 GMT, geo...@apan.org (George
Byrd) wrote:
>
>
> >So, c'mon back Andy. The coast is as clear as it ever
gets here.
>
> Okay, George ... but now you've got to spill; who's this
"she" I was
> mistaken for and who has apparently left such a wide swath
of ill will
> and destruction?
>
> Andy Katz
Her name is Martha Sprowles; and, if you piss her off, she
morphs and forges posts using atc regulars screen names.
She was recently outed as a particularly nasty email troll
who sent email threats to a couple of atc posters and
emailed inflammatory gossip about an occassional atc poster.
She also uses various socks to move private mailing list
business into atc.
If you'd like to know more about her than you really want to
know, I've heard that there's a website or two around. I, of
course, don't know anything about that; it's just something
I "heard".
Welcome to atc, Andy...
Alan Hope
programme, like this one from George Byrd, calling from
alt.true-crime:
>In <alt.true-crime>, 28 Jun 2001 18:41:27 GMT,
> on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
> neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote:
>>From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
>>/What an appropriate thread for this particular discussion;-)
>>/Andy Katz
>>____________________________________
>>Fuck you *Andy* and the sock you rode in on.
>>Barbara
>Uh, Barbara, I think this is *the* Andy Katz, one of the most sane and
>decent folks you'll ever find on usenet, who should be a welcome
>newcomer to a.t-c. I can be fooled by forgers, but I think the
>headers are real and historically consistent. This is no sock, unless
>you know something about Andy that I don't, which is possible of
>course.
>GB <-- coaxing Barbara for dirt on Andy
I'm also familiar with Andy, from misc.writing back in the days of the
old Balkan wars. He's no sock.
--
AH
Andy Katz
>I'm also familiar with Andy, from misc.writing back in the days of the
>old Balkan wars. He's no sock.
Likewise, Alan.
Good to see you:-)
Andy Katz
>Her name is Martha Sprowles; and, if you piss her off, she
>morphs and forges posts using atc regulars screen names.
That sounds vaguely familiar.
>Welcome to atc, Andy...
Thank you.
Andy Katz
<cj_m.rm@thiswontwork> wrote:
>Ever think of changing your name?!
When I was in junior high I wanted to be Bob Collins. Don't ask why
... maybe a Dark Shadows thing.
>It's a very nice name actually.
Thanks.
NEON NAPPI
From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
Date: Sat, Jun 30, 2001 10:13 AM
Message-id: <3jnrjt0k3s6u0s6vk...@4ax.com>
On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 15:23:42 +0200, Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote:
>I'm also familiar with Andy, from misc.writing back in the days of the
>old Balkan wars. He's no sock.
Likewise, Alan.
Good to see you:-)
Andy Katz
___________
I'm afraid to ask, Balkan Wars???
Barbara_________________________
NEON NAPPI
From: Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be>
Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
programme, like this one from George Byrd, calling from
alt.true-crime:
>In <alt.true-crime>, 28 Jun 2001 18:41:27 GMT,
> on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
> neon...@aol.com (NEON NAPPI) wrote:
>>From: Andy Katz <amk*@rcn.net*>
>>/What an appropriate thread for this particular discussion;-)
>>/Andy Katz
>>____________________________________
>>Fuck you *Andy* and the sock you rode in on.
>>Barbara
>Uh, Barbara, I think this is *the* Andy Katz, one of the most sane and
>decent folks you'll ever find on usenet, who should be a welcome
>newcomer to a.t-c. I can be fooled by forgers, but I think the
>headers are real and historically consistent. This is no sock, unless
>you know something about Andy that I don't, which is possible of
>course.
>GB <-- coaxing Barbara for dirt on Andy
/I'm also familiar with Andy, from misc.writing back in the days of the
/old Balkan wars. He's no sock.
--
/AH
Well, I hope we all know by now who I mistook him for and how mortified I am at
my mistake.
Barbara<------------on her second dose of hemlock
annie shank
Might be nice if there was something to this other than a short news report.
No one is
saying anyone, except that she's wrongly accused. It doesn't pay to resort
to knee-jerk
reaction on stuff like this. Especially when there are no facts to go on.
Annie an...@rt66.com
--
Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing
himself. -- Leo Tolstoy
ZeeNightOwl
What's a sock?
George Byrd
on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
>I hesitate to ask, but...
>
>What's a sock?
See <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/sock-puppet.html> or
<http://www.mashica.com/certification/socket/socket.htm>.
GB
Maggie
><cj_m.rm@thiswontwork> wrote:
>
>>Ever think of changing your name?!
>
>When I was in junior high I wanted to be Bob Collins. Don't ask why
>... maybe a Dark Shadows thing.
***I thought it was Barnabas Collins. Was there a Bob Collins, too?
Maggie
Andy Katz
wrote:
>***I thought it was Barnabas Collins. Was there a Bob Collins, too?
No. I just liked the surname;-)
George Byrd
on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
>On 02 Jul 2001 00:33:50 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
>wrote:
>
>>***I thought it was Barnabas Collins. Was there a Bob Collins, too?
>
>No. I just liked the surname;-)
IIRC Bob Cummings portrayed photog Bob Collins on the 50s sitcom The
Bob Collins Show (or was it The Bob Cummings Show?).
It was fairly funny, bachelor glamour photog's wacky adventures with
witty models.
GB
NEON NAPPI
From: geo...@apan.org (George Byrd)
Date: Sun, Jul 1, 2001 10:08 PM
Message-id: <3b3fd62d...@nntp1.ba.best.com>
GB
I've been trying to remember the name of that show for weeks, ever since
Michael tried to *educate* Mike ( I forget about what).
It was , Father Knows Best, The Donna Reed Show, Loretta Young; later, Dick
Van Dyke and much later The Partridge Family and The Brady Bunch.
I just couldnt remember the name of the other show and I think it *was* The Bob
Cummings Show.
Do you remember who played his niece?
Barbara
ZeeNightOwl
>
>>I hesitate to ask, but...
>>
>>What's a sock?
>
>See <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/sock-puppet.html> or
>
> <http://www.mashica.com/certification/socket/socket.htm>.
>
>GB
Got it. Thank you.
David C. Wright
annie shank <an...@rt66.com> wrote:
...
>Might be nice if there was something to this other than a short news report.
>No one is
>saying anyone, except that she's wrongly accused. It doesn't pay to resort
>to knee-jerk
>reaction on stuff like this. Especially when there are no facts to go on.
>
>Annie an...@rt66.com
I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
before I start deciding if she is a pervert. If she did something twisted,
then she should go to jail, but nowadays helping a boy hold his penis so he
knows how to aim when he's peeing (as my mother did to me when I was very
young) can be interpreted in some maniac skulls as "child endangerment". I
don't like the secrecy. If she's been charged with something, I want to
know what it is before I decide. So far, I don't have enough information,
and that bothers me. If she did something awful, then why doesn't anybody
want to mention what it was?
--
David C. Wright (wrig...@home.com)
http://members.home.net/wright411
A meeting is an event at which the minutes are kept
and the hours are lost.
mothra...@my-deja.com
With an adoring plain assistant--Schultzie? Who played her, George--I
keep thinking Ann B. Davis, but I don't think that's right.
Martha
George Byrd
on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
>> IIRC Bob Cummings portrayed photog Bob Collins on the 50s sitcom The
>> Bob Collins Show (or was it The Bob Cummings Show?).
>>
>> It was fairly funny, bachelor glamour photog's wacky adventures with
>> witty models.
>>
>> GB
>
>With an adoring plain assistant--Schultzie? Who played her, George--I
>keep thinking Ann B. Davis, but I don't think that's right.
I recall the Schultzie (or something like that) character, but not who
played.
I. M. Clueless
Patty
"ZeeNightOwl" <zeeni...@cs.com> wrote in message
news:20010702043149...@ng-mm1.news.cs.com...
Wait until you see the socks arguing with each other and they
belong to the same feet.
Patty
ZeeNightOwl
>before I start deciding if she is a pervert. If she did something twisted,
>then she should go to jail, but nowadays helping a boy hold his penis so he
>knows how to aim when he's peeing (as my mother did to me when I was very
>young) can be interpreted in some maniac skulls as "child endangerment". I
>don't like the secrecy. If she's been charged with something, I want to
>know what it is before I decide. So far, I don't have enough information,
>and that bothers me. If she did something awful, then why doesn't anybody
>want to mention what it was?
My thoughts exactly. I wish we would get some details. My 11-year-old
daughter just loves Paula Poundstone and thinks she's hysterical. I wish I
could get some details on what she's accused of so I could know how to talk to
my daughter about it. She saw the story on the news, and of course it threw
her for a loop, but I don't know what to say to her about it. Do I give her
the speech about how child molesters don't always look like child molesters, or
the one about how people are innocent until proven guilty and sometimes the
police charge people who then turn up innocent? Maybe I give her both...
bgregg
It was, in fact, Ann B. Davis.
Slipslope
ShadowWolf
wrote:
>In group alt.feminism, article <3B3D3ABE...@rt66.com>,
>annie shank <an...@rt66.com> wrote:
>
>...
>
>>Might be nice if there was something to this other than a short news report.
>>No one is
>>saying anyone, except that she's wrongly accused. It doesn't pay to resort
>>to knee-jerk
>>reaction on stuff like this. Especially when there are no facts to go on.
>>
>>Annie an...@rt66.com
>
>I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
>before I start deciding if she is a pervert.
<snip>
> David C. Wright (wrig...@home.com)
> http://members.home.net/wright411
>
> A meeting is an event at which the minutes are kept
> and the hours are lost.
Charged with? Maybe you should wait until she's *convicted* before
you decide she's a pervert...yes?
ShadowWolf
<lcra...@Philco.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 13:29:58 GMT, wrig...@home.com (David C. Wright)
>wrote:
>
>>I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
>>before I start deciding if she is a pervert. If she did something twisted,
>>then she should go to jail, but nowadays helping a boy hold his penis so he
>>knows how to aim when he's peeing (as my mother did to me when I was very
>>young) can be interpreted in some maniac skulls as "child endangerment". I
>>don't like the secrecy. If she's been charged with something, I want to
>>know what it is before I decide. So far, I don't have enough information,
>>and that bothers me. If she did something awful, then why doesn't anybody
>>want to mention what it was?
>
>Doesn't having bail set at $200,000 (that her lawyer didn't contest), tell
>you anything about the severity of the crime? You haven't been watching
>enough Law & Order reruns my man...She'll be spending a couple of years
>with the "diving divas" before this one's put on the shelf...Bet on it!
>
>> David C. Wright (wrig...@home.com)
Let's remember that a charge is not a conviction, shall we? I've
always believed that the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
is an admirable one.
Mhw61
>always believed that the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
>is an admirable one.
Actually, from the tone of the header, I'd say that, as far as the poster is
concerned Poundstone is mostly guilty of feminism--otherwise it wouldn't rate a
mention. As I recall, most sources without an ax to grind listed Poundstone as
a comedian, not a feminist. Although frankly, any one who wears a tie when
they don't have to is pretty suspicious to me. Prince Barnhard rules!
Max
"I'd rather blow an engine than get passed by a damn Dallara."
--Eddie Cheever
Angilion
wrote:
>In group alt.feminism, article <3B3D3ABE...@rt66.com>,
>annie shank <an...@rt66.com> wrote:
>
>...
>
>>Might be nice if there was something to this other than a short news report.
>>No one is
>>saying anyone, except that she's wrongly accused. It doesn't pay to resort
>>to knee-jerk
>>reaction on stuff like this. Especially when there are no facts to go on.
>>
>>Annie an...@rt66.com
>
>I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
>before I start deciding if she is a pervert. If she did something twisted,
>then she should go to jail, but nowadays helping a boy hold his penis so he
>knows how to aim when he's peeing (as my mother did to me when I was very
>young) can be interpreted in some maniac skulls as "child endangerment". I
>don't like the secrecy. If she's been charged with something, I want to
>know what it is before I decide. So far, I don't have enough information,
>and that bothers me. If she did something awful, then why doesn't anybody
>want to mention what it was?
In addition, she has not been convicted and should therefore be presumed
innocent. Without the presumption of innocence, we may as well forget the
whole idea of a trial and just pronounce people guilty as charged all the
time. It would save a lot of public money.
--
Always remember you're unique.
Just like everyone else. (Anon)
dennis
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting. Yet OJ Simpson was never convicted of anything,
yet have heard few defend him. Sorry...I forgot....he is a man. And
he is black. Yet he was tried, and convicted well before any decision
by the court was handed down.
It seems, that, the OJ case aside, if you are a man, the mere
accusation seems to be enough to judge you guilty. Why should this
would be held to higher standards? Sorry, forgot again....she is a
woman. Only they are held to be innocent.
Alan Hope
alt.true-crime:
>In group alt.feminism, article <3B3D3ABE...@rt66.com>,
>annie shank <an...@rt66.com> wrote:
>>Might be nice if there was something to this other than a short news report.
>>No one is
>>saying anyone, except that she's wrongly accused. It doesn't pay to resort
>>to knee-jerk
>>reaction on stuff like this. Especially when there are no facts to go on.
>I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
>before I start deciding if she is a pervert. If she did something twisted,
>then she should go to jail, but nowadays helping a boy hold his penis so he
>knows how to aim when he's peeing (as my mother did to me when I was very
>young) can be interpreted in some maniac skulls as "child endangerment". I
>don't like the secrecy. If she's been charged with something, I want to
>know what it is before I decide. So far, I don't have enough information,
>and that bothers me. If she did something awful, then why doesn't anybody
>want to mention what it was?
While I sympathise with your frustration, I have to point out that
it's none of your business. This is not about you. I'm all for posters
to Usenet exercising their opinion muscles at every occasion, but your
desire to fill the world in on your current thinking doesn't extend to
making demands on law enforcement. They, unlike the average ng poster,
and I'm one of the latter, have other things to do.
We'd all like to know more, but the world doesn't yet revolve around
the nosey-parkers of Usenet. Maybe some day, eh?
--
AH
tom parker
wrote:
While I understand your sentiments (and can add my share of similar
observations), the fact remains that Paula Poundstone has not been
convicted. Last month there was quite a discussion around a man who
was arrested after having his testicles removed by a woman, supposedly
while he was attempting to rape her. People here (Soc.Men) very
properly pointed out that until he was convicted, he was innocent. So
is Ms. Poundstone, media trials not withstanding.
tparker
"Stupidity is Evil waiting to happen"
mothra...@my-deja.com
Well, bless my heart.
Thank you.
Martha
Hell Toupee
> I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
> don't like the secrecy. If she's been charged with something, I want to
> know what it is before I decide. So far, I don't have enough information,
> and that bothers me. If she did something awful, then why doesn't anybody
> want to mention what it was?
*Unsubstantiated gossip follows*
My sister heard a friend of Poundstone's interviewed on a local
radio show this morning. According to this friend, some of the kids
Poundstone has taken in have been the toughest cases - the kind that
had already been bounced from other foster parents who simply
couldn't deal with their behavioral problems. Many of Poundstone's
friends have warned her at one time or another that she was taking a
huge risk by taking in these especially difficult children, since
that plus her sexuality plus her celebrity status left her wide open
to charges of mistreatment by any kid who felt inclined to make
trouble just for the hell of it. And that, naturally, is what her
friends believe is happening with this case.
I heard the tail end of a report from Hollywood gossip reporter
James St. James on another radio show this morning. From what I was
able to hear, apparently rumor has it that the birth mother of one
of Poundstone's current kids persuaded her child to go to Poundstone
with a threat: pay my mom $$ or I'm claiming molestation. When
Poundstone refused the shakedown attempt, the child called her birth
mother, who told her to go ahead and contact CPS with the story.
HellT
Vilify! Vilify! Some of it will always stick.
-- Beaumarchais
NEON NAPPI
From: geo...@apan.org (George Byrd)
In <alt.true-crime>, Mon, 02 Jul 2001 11:10:22 -0400,
on "Re: Paula Poundstone Arrested for Lewd Acts With a Child"
mothra...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> IIRC Bob Cummings portrayed photog Bob Collins on the 50s sitcom The
>> Bob Collins Show (or was it The Bob Cummings Show?).
>>
>> It was fairly funny, bachelor glamour photog's wacky adventures with
>> witty models.
>>
>> GB
>
>With an adoring plain assistant--Schultzie? Who played her, George--I
>keep thinking Ann B. Davis, but I don't think that's right.
/I recall the Schultzie (or something like that) character, but not who
/played.
/I. M. Clueless
It was Ann B. Davis. Who played the neice? There *was* a neice, wasnt there?
Barbara
ZeeNightOwl
>was arrested after having his testicles removed by a woman, supposedly
>while he was attempting to rape her. People here (Soc.Men) very
>properly pointed out that until he was convicted, he was innocent.
That's not actually true. Until he is convicted he has to be regarded as
innocent by the courts. However, if he does in fact turn out to be guilty,
then he was guilty all along. Only the courts have to treat a person as being
innocent until they are convicted; the rest of us can speculate all we want.
The problem with the Paula Poundstone case is that we dont' have many details
to base any speculation on, so I am personally withholding judgement until I
hear some more info. That doesn't mean that I am obligated to believe she's
innocent until some court convicts her, though.
Sky King
says...
Sky King
John LaVoy
LaMonte Cranston wrote:
>
> You are one naive turkey - save the "innocent until proven guilty" bull shit
> for the court room -- the public is rarely wrong in it's collective wisdom
> about things like this.
Is that so? I would sugggest that the public is rarely correct in its
collective wisdom about such things. If you are a representative of that
public, then I understand why.
>
George Byrd
on "Re: Paula Poundstone: Sick, Twisted Feminist Child-Predator
Arrested"
John LaVoy <jla...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote:
Lamont Cranston, while in the orient, learned the power to control
men's minds. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
GB
midman
> On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 19:18:10 GMT, LaMonte Cranston
> <lcra...@Philco.org> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 13:29:58 GMT, wrig...@home.com (David C. Wright)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I, too would like to know precisely what Poundstone has been charged with
> >>before I start deciding if she is a pervert.
> >
> >you anything about the severity of the crime?
> >
>
> Let's remember that a charge is not a conviction, shall we? I've
> always believed that the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
> is an admirable one.
I would agree that "innocent until proved guilty" is essential. I
would reckon too that a court needs more evidence to convict and
sentence than the police perhaps need to charge someone who has been
accused of a crime. However, when it comes particularly to the
protection of children, I don't think we can lose sight of the reality
that while a lack of a conviction means the accused is innocent, we
cannot therefore be certain they didn't do it.