Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Maura: Family warned by local Police Chief

201 views
Skip to first unread message

Sherman

unread,
Apr 14, 2004, 2:10:30 PM4/14/04
to
http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/6bd996f47

It sure sounds that they've jumped beyond uncooperative into threatening. ?
And so it goes. This might never be solved. That country up there is
strange...

Sherman.


tinydancer

unread,
Apr 14, 2004, 2:24:02 PM4/14/04
to

"Sherman" <Sher...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:9s-dnYNxzr8...@adelphia.com...


I can sympathize with the locals, but this man's daughter is missing. One
would think they could work out something. Give permission to park
somewhere?

td
>
>


Kris Baker

unread,
Apr 14, 2004, 2:21:26 PM4/14/04
to

"Sherman" <Sher...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:9s-dnYNxzr8...@adelphia.com...

No matter how it unseemly and crass it seems, the police *must*
enforce the rights of the property owners when there are complaints.

Frankly, if I were the police, I'd get a warrant to search the
properties of the complainers ;)

Kris


Scorpi...@attnospam.net

unread,
Apr 14, 2004, 2:53:55 PM4/14/04
to
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:10:30 -0400, "Sherman" <Sher...@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/6bd996f47
>
Family, Friends Warned About Trespassing

Missing Woman

BY GARY E. LINDSLEY, Staff Writer

HAVERHILL, NH - The investigation into the disappearance of
21-year-old University of Massachusetts nursing student Maura Murray
has encountered an odd twist.

Fred Murray, Maura's father, has been warned that he, other family
members, friends and canine search teams face possible arrest if they
trespass on private property in an area surrounding the site of
Maura's accident.

Maura, a Hanson, Mass., resident and junior at the UMass Amherst
campus, disappeared after she was involved in a one-car accident the
night of Feb. 9 on Route 112 in Haverhill, about a mile east of
Swiftwater.

Fred Murray received a letter, dated April 2, from Haverhill Police
Chief Jeff Williams warning against trespassing.

Williams states in his letter his department has received a written
request from area residents complaining about repeated trespassing and
parking problems on their properties.

"While they are sympathetic with the cause to find Maura, the right to
quiet enjoyment of their personal property has been repeatedly and
blatantly disregarded to the point that they now must insist that
absolutely no one has permission to trespass on their properties,"
Williams wrote Murray.

The property owners, according to Williams, are specifically excluding
the following from their parking lots and properties: Murray family
members, friends and relatives of Maura Murray; volunteer searchers
and canine handlers; private investigators; members of the press; and
anyone else seeking clues or searching for Maura Murray.

"The Haverhill Police Department will honor their wishes to remove
unwanted vehicles and/or ask trespassers to leave immediately,"
Williams wrote in his letter. "Repeat offenders will be arrested.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation in this matter."

Sharon Rausch, whose son, Billy, is Maura's boyfriend, was
flabbergasted when she learned about the letter.

"I am amazed!" Rausch exclaimed. "He gets a written note, not a phone
call, that he will be arrested. It's callous. I think it's callous to
put something like this in writing."

Murray said if residents living in the area of Maura's accident have
been offended by people searching for his daughter, he is certainly
sorry. "I have not tried to cause any problems," he said.

However, Murray believes the true intent of Williams' letter is police
are trying to discourage any independent searches for Maura. He also
believes it is an attempt to reduce the amount of publicity Maura's
disappearance has been receiving.

"We have all the interviews we have wanted to do," he said. "I think
it's an overreaction on the part of the police department."

If people are upset because of the search for his daughter, though,
Murray said he will personally apologize to them.

"It's much to do about nothing," he said. "We are not worried. We will
continue to act responsibly and look for my daughter."

Williams, when contacted Tuesday, would not say when the complaints
were filed nor would he divulge how many were submitted to the police
department.

The past several weeks of police reports from his department have not
indicated there were any trespassing complaints in the area of Maura's
accident.

Williams said none were noted because he didn't want the people's
names known.

"They have been through enough," he said, referring to property
owners. "If people are caught on people's properties they will be
asked to leave. We will follow the law."

In addition to trespassing, he said people have been blocking vehicles
in private driveways.

As law enforcers, Williams said police are forced to protect property
owners.

"If my daughter was missing, I wouldn't be happy until she was found,"
he said. "I understand their frustration. Hopefully, we will get to a
successful conclusion where Maura is alive."

When asked if he would contact Los Angeles, Calif., psychic profiler
Carla Baron regarding any information she may have regarding the case,
Williams said, "We don't deal directly with psychics. We deal in
evidence."

He did say, though, if she has information regarding Maura, his
department will follow up on it.

Baron has claimed she believes Maura "is no longer with us" and may
have fallen victim to someone who has killed other women. She also has
information about the person's description, vehicle he drives and area
where she may be found.

--
Like a game of pick up stick played by fucking lunatics

Child

unread,
Apr 15, 2004, 2:42:21 AM4/15/04
to

"tinydancer" <tinyd...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ocffc.29758$UC4....@bignews2.bellsouth.net...


Yes, I don't have much sympathy with that local at all. Get a heart.


Maggie

unread,
Apr 15, 2004, 7:41:21 AM4/15/04
to
>"tinydancer" <tinyd...@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:ocffc.29758$UC4....@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "Sherman" <Sher...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>> news:9s-dnYNxzr8...@adelphia.com...
>> > http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/6bd996f47
>> >
>> > It sure sounds that they've jumped beyond uncooperative into
>threatening.
>> ?
>> > And so it goes. This might never be solved. That country up there
>is
>> > strange...
>> >
>> > Sherman.
>>
>>
>> I can sympathize with the locals, but this man's daughter is missing.
> One
>> would think they could work out something. Give permission to park
>> somewhere?
>
child said:
>Yes, I don't have much sympathy with that local at all. Get a heart.

***Exactly how long do you expect people to "have a heart"? If someone goes
missing near your home, do that person's friends, relatives and any strangers
who've read about the case have some sort of right into perpetuity to tresspass
on your property?

For pete's sake--it's been over two months now. Put yourself in the
neighbors' shoes. Most of them live where they live because they like the
solitude. A drunk, mentally unstable woman (not a child, mind you) gets
herself into an auto accident near your house, refuses help, then disappears.
Suddenly, you've got all kinds of people traipsing over your private oasis.
The police and numerous others conduct a thorough search. Then conduct it
again. Then look for trace evidence. Then keep coming back . After a couple
of months, I'd have had enough, too. Almost anyone would, don't you think?

Maggie

"Don't look at me--I just know stuff." -- Detective Odafin Tutuola, Law &
Order: Special Victims Unit

anne vasquez

unread,
Apr 15, 2004, 9:39:05 AM4/15/04
to
On 15 Apr 2004 11:41:21 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
wrote:

>A drunk, mentally unstable woman (not a child, mind you) gets
>herself into an auto accident near your house, refuses help, then disappears.

And you are so sure that this is he correct scenario because?

anne in chicago (who would certainly be a lot more tolerant than these
people seem to be)

Maggie

unread,
Apr 15, 2004, 12:19:27 PM4/15/04
to
>On 15 Apr 2004 11:41:21 GMT, maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC (Maggie)
>wrote:
>
>>A drunk, mentally unstable woman (not a child, mind you) gets
>>herself into an auto accident near your house, refuses help, then disappears.
>
anne said:
>And you are so sure that this is he correct scenario because?
>
>anne in chicago (who would certainly be a lot more tolerant than these
>people seem to be)

****I don't know what part of my scenario you are questioning. AFAIK, the
facts as I stated them are not in dispute--there was an open liquor bottle in
the car and the witness reported she appeared to be drunk, she had lied about a
relative dying, had packed up her apartment as if she was moving out but didn't
tell anyone about it, had cried uncontrollably after an innocuous call from her
sister (so that she had to leave work and be escorted back to her dorm), so she
certainly appears to be mentally unstable. The witness said she refused help.
She disappeared.

Listen--I think she was kidnapped and killed, but many people apparently think
she (an adult, mind you) staged her own disappearance. She certainly seems to
have been in the process of trying to do just that--at least for a while. I
can certainly understand why people who live in that area are sick to death of
two months worth of strangers marching over their property, looking for someone
who may well be sitting around somewhere laughing at their efforts.

0 new messages