Laci--When Did Amber Know?
Maggie
to be Amber's either. I wonder if the prosecution thinks it can jump around so
much that no one will notice they aren't putting Amber on the stand. Anyone
know if Detective Byrd is married? From the Modesto Bee:
Phone records raise queries
By JOHN COTÉ and GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITERS
Last Updated: July 10, 2004, 07:04:26 AM PDT
Scott Peterson's girlfriend called a Fresno police homicide detective's home
in the days before and after Peterson's wife disappeared, partial cell phone
records show.
Detective Richard Byrd's name surfaced in Peterson's double-murder trial
during questioning about when Amber Frey called Modesto police about her
relationship with Peterson and her whereabouts the day that Laci Peterson was
reported missing.
Frey placed an almost hourlong call to Byrd's home the night of Dec. 21, 2002
-- three days before Peterson was reported missing, according to the phone
records.
The next two calls from Frey's cell phone were to Scott Peterson the next
morning, the documents show.
Frey called Byrd's home at least three times, for a total of 84 minutes, from
Dec. 21, 2002, to Jan. 2, 2003, the records show. A 26-minute call from Frey's
cell phone to Byrd's home took place the evening of Jan. 1, 2003 -- two days
after Frey reportedly became aware that Peterson was married and his wife was
missing.
Byrd declined to comment on the phone records, Frey's calls or the nature of
their relationship.
"You know I know her," he said when reached by phone at his home. "I don't
have any comment." He dismissed a defense suggestion that there are unanswered
questions about Frey's -- and possibly his -- role in the case.
Frey, a key prosecution witness who could take the stand as early as next
week, could not be reached for comment.
The 29-year-old Fresno massage therapist's relationship with Byrd appears to
be a component in the defense effort to discredit her testimony and raise
questions about her alibi when Peterson went missing.
Defense attorney Mark Geragos last week questioned Modesto police Detective Al
Brocchini on whether he knew Byrd and then asked if Brocchini had investigated
Frey's alibi.
Brocchini responded that someone investigated her alibi but said he did not
know if he had done it. Brocchini said he knew of Byrd.
Geragos also questioned Shawn Sibley -- who described herself as Frey's best
friend -- about whether Byrd called Frey and whether Sibley saw Frey on Dec.
24, 2002. Sibley testified that she did not know Byrd and did not remember
whether she saw Frey that day.
The tactic is a "red herring," Dean Johnson, a former San Mateo County
prosecutor observing the trial, said after Sibley's testimony.
"What Geragos is doing is laying the foundation to say that Amber Frey knew
about Scott Peterson's marriage long before she admitted having discovered the
marriage and that she may be involved in some way in the murder," Johnson said.
Frey's attorney, Gloria Allred, said the defense appeared to be trying to
smear her client.
"This suggestion by Geragos that somehow she was in any way involved in the
disappearance of Laci is preposterous," Allred said.
Frey secretly taped hours of calls with Peterson at the request of Modesto
police. Peterson's attorneys have suggested that Frey was recording
conversations with Peterson weeks before she went to police, withheld some
tapes from authorities and was not forthcoming about when she learned that
Peterson was married.
Allred declined to comment on when Frey learned Peterson was married and when
she began recording conversations, but said: "She never went out with him
thinking he was married." She also said Frey had turned over all relevant
tapes.
Prosecutors contend that Peterson killed his wife and unborn son late Dec. 23
or early Dec. 24, drove to the Berkeley Marina and dumped her body in San
Francisco Bay from a fishing boat purchased two weeks ear- lier.
Peterson told police he left his home the morning of Dec. 24 for a solo
fishing trip to the bay and returned to find his wife gone. The defense
contends his wife likely was abducted while walking the couple's dog.
Peterson's defense has pointed to a sealed affidavit by Steve Jacobson, an
investigator with the Stanislaus County district attorney's office, that
reportedly says Peterson could not have killed his wife alone.
"Investigator Jacobson suspected Amber Frey, and he told the judge that I
think Amber Frey is involved in this case," Geragos told jurors in his opening
statement. In early January 2003, authorities obtained permission to tap Frey's
phone because she was a possible co-conspirator. Frey was removed from the list
of "target subjects" five days later.
At a news conference nine days after that, Police Chief Roy Wasden said Frey
had been "eliminated as a suspect."
During that news conference, Frey said she immediately contacted Modesto
police when she discovered her lover "was involved in the Laci Peterson
disappearance case."
The phone records show a spike in calls from Frey's cell phone to Peterson on
Dec. 26, 2002, the day police first used a warrant to search the Peterson home
and when news accounts of the case began to gain steam.
Frey and Peterson called each other an average of two times daily in the week
before Laci Peterson was reported missing, but her calls to him shot up to 14
on Dec. 26 -- all between 3 and 9 p.m.
Sibley testified that she and Frey found out that Peterson was missing while
attending a birthday party the evening of Dec. 29 that ran into the next
morning.
"Amber received a phone call from someone who told her … that Scott was the
husband of the missing Modesto woman," Sibley testified. She said she did not
know who the call was from.
Phone records show that Frey received four calls from unidentified numbers
from 9:01 p.m. Dec. 29 to 1:40 a.m. Dec. 30, ranging in length from two to 16
minutes.
Almost immediately after the fourth call -- two minutes in length -- she
dialed the Modesto Police Department main number and stayed on the phone for 22
minutes, according to the records.
Bee staff writer John Coté can be reached at 578-2394 or jc...@modbee.com.
Bee staff writer Garth Stapley can be reached at 578-2390 or
gsta...@modbee.com.
Maggie
"Nancy, if you were 8 1/2 months pregnant and I was married to you, I'd be
going fishing Christmas Eve." -- Mark Geragos, to Nancy Grace on LKL
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
"Maggie"
> Last night, Gloria Allred seemed pretty sure that this coming week wasn't going
> to be Amber's either. I wonder if the prosecution thinks it can jump around so
> much that no one will notice they aren't putting Amber on the stand. Anyone
> know if Detective Byrd is married?
Would it matter to Amber? I think they're going to have to call her sooner or
later. Probably near the end. DA doesn't want this to turn into the Amber and
Scott show.
From the Modesto Bee:
>
> Phone records raise queries
> By JOHN COTÉ and GARTH STAPLEY
> BEE STAFF WRITERS
> Last Updated: July 10, 2004, 07:04:26 AM PDT
>
> Scott Peterson's girlfriend called a Fresno police homicide detective's home
> in the days before and after Peterson's wife disappeared, partial cell phone
> records show.
>
> Detective Richard Byrd's name surfaced in Peterson's double-murder trial
> during questioning about when Amber Frey called Modesto police about her
> relationship with Peterson and her whereabouts the day that Laci Peterson was
> reported missing.
>
> Frey placed an almost hourlong call to Byrd's home the night of Dec. 21, 2002
> -- three days before Peterson was reported missing, according to the phone
> records.
And one day after Scott bought his fishing license and possibly decided
that he was going to be going to Maine/Europe. So what's Amber got to
talk about w/a homicide cop for an hour about? Sports?
>
> The next two calls from Frey's cell phone were to Scott Peterson the next
> morning, the documents show.
>
> Frey called Byrd's home at least three times, for a total of 84 minutes, from
> Dec. 21, 2002, to Jan. 2, 2003, the records show. A 26-minute call from Frey's
> cell phone to Byrd's home took place the evening of Jan. 1, 2003 -- two days
> after Frey reportedly became aware that Peterson was married and his wife was
> missing.
Well, seeing as how LE already had her, this call isn't a big surprise.
>
> Byrd declined to comment on the phone records, Frey's calls or the nature of
> their relationship.
>
> "You know I know her," he said when reached by phone at his home. "I don't
> have any comment." He dismissed a defense suggestion that there are unanswered
> questions about Frey's -- and possibly his -- role in the case.
>
> Frey, a key prosecution witness who could take the stand as early as next
> week, could not be reached for comment.
>
> The 29-year-old Fresno massage therapist's relationship with Byrd appears to
> be a component in the defense effort to discredit her testimony and raise
> questions about her alibi when Peterson went missing.
>
> Defense attorney Mark Geragos last week questioned Modesto police Detective Al
> Brocchini on whether he knew Byrd and then asked if Brocchini had investigated
> Frey's alibi.
>
> Brocchini responded that someone investigated her alibi but said he did not
> know if he had done it. Brocchini said he knew of Byrd.
>
> Geragos also questioned Shawn Sibley -- who described herself as Frey's best
> friend -- about whether Byrd called Frey and whether Sibley saw Frey on Dec.
> 24, 2002. Sibley testified that she did not know Byrd and did not remember
> whether she saw Frey that day.
Oh come on. She knows perfectly well whether she saw Amber on Christmas
Eve day or not.
>
> The tactic is a "red herring," Dean Johnson, a former San Mateo County
> prosecutor observing the trial, said after Sibley's testimony.
>
> "What Geragos is doing is laying the foundation to say that Amber Frey knew
> about Scott Peterson's marriage long before she admitted having discovered the
> marriage and that she may be involved in some way in the murder," Johnson said.
Well, duh.
>
> Frey's attorney, Gloria Allred, said the defense appeared to be trying to
> smear her client.
>
> "This suggestion by Geragos that somehow she was in any way involved in the
> disappearance of Laci is preposterous," Allred said.
Probably. But not the suggestion that Amber knew he was married and was
pushing on him to find a way to be not married.
>
> Frey secretly taped hours of calls with Peterson at the request of Modesto
> police. Peterson's attorneys have suggested that Frey was recording
> conversations with Peterson weeks before she went to police, withheld some
> tapes from authorities and was not forthcoming about when she learned that
> Peterson was married.
Another duh. If she didn't know by Dec 26, she sure the hell found out when
the news started being sprayed all over central California.
>
> Allred declined to comment on when Frey learned Peterson was married and when
> she began recording conversations, but said: "She never went out with him
> thinking he was married." She also said Frey had turned over all relevant
> tapes.
Translation: she found out after Dec 14, and well before Dec 29.
<...>
> The phone records show a spike in calls from Frey's cell phone to Peterson on
> Dec. 26, 2002, the day police first used a warrant to search the Peterson home
> and when news accounts of the case began to gain steam.
>
> Frey and Peterson called each other an average of two times daily in the week
> before Laci Peterson was reported missing, but her calls to him shot up to 14
> on Dec. 26 -- all between 3 and 9 p.m.
Ta-da. Yes, she knew, and she probably suspected Scott was involved in some
way with her disappearance. *Why* she suspected that is going to be interesting.
If Scott was saying weird stuff like "we'll be together after Jan 25" or worse,
had admitted to being married but was planning to be separated soon...
>
> Sibley testified that she and Frey found out that Peterson was missing while
> attending a birthday party the evening of Dec. 29 that ran into the next
> morning.
A Sunday evening boozy bash? I don't think so. Sounds more like Sibley
and Amber staying up late trying to figure out what they were going to
do when LE figured out who Scotty was boffing.
>
> "Amber received a phone call from someone who told her … that Scott was the
> husband of the missing Modesto woman," Sibley testified. She said she did not
> know who the call was from.
Yes she did. Does anyone really think Amber wouldn't have told her?
>
> Phone records show that Frey received four calls from unidentified numbers
> from 9:01 p.m. Dec. 29 to 1:40 a.m. Dec. 30, ranging in length from two to 16
> minutes.
>
> Almost immediately after the fourth call -- two minutes in length -- she
> dialed the Modesto Police Department main number and stayed on the phone for 22
> minutes, according to the records.
When whoever she was talking to told her that either she goes to the police or
they show up on her doorstep.
Yeah, her testimony is going to be one wild-ass ride....
RstJ
Jean Staffen
Scott and asked a friend of a friend (who was a detective) to check him out.
I assumed it was a private detective, but it could well have been Byrd. If
this is so, Amber had more serious suspicions than Scott's marital status.
"Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:sQWHc.63067$XM6.59151@attbi_s53...
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
"Jean Staffen" <jsta...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:KsXHc.22729$mY2....@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> I remember hearing early on in the case that Amber had become suspicious of
> Scott and asked a friend of a friend (who was a detective) to check him out.
> I assumed it was a private detective, but it could well have been Byrd. If
> this is so, Amber had more serious suspicions than Scott's marital status.
And you'd think a Fresno cop should be able to get an answer fairly easily.
But I suppose it's still possible Scott had convinced both Amber and Sibley
that he lived in Sacto, not Modesto.
RstJ
>
>
>
> "Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote
> in message news:sQWHc.63067$XM6.59151@attbi_s53...
> >
> > "Maggie"
> > > Last night, Gloria Allred seemed pretty sure that this coming week
> wasn't going
> > > to be Amber's either. I wonder if the prosecution thinks it can jump
> around so
> > > much that no one will notice they aren't putting Amber on the stand.
> Anyone
> > > know if Detective Byrd is married?
> >
> > Would it matter to Amber? I think they're going to have to call her sooner
> or
> > later. Probably near the end. DA doesn't want this to turn into the Amber
> and
> > Scott show.
> >
> > From the Modesto Bee:
> > >
> > > Phone records raise queries
> > > By JOHN COTI and GARTH STAPLEY
okerry
>
> "Jean Staffen" <jsta...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:KsXHc.22729$mY2....@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > I remember hearing early on in the case that Amber had become suspicious
of
> > Scott and asked a friend of a friend (who was a detective) to check him
out.
> > I assumed it was a private detective, but it could well have been Byrd.
If
> > this is so, Amber had more serious suspicions than Scott's marital
status.
>
> And you'd think a Fresno cop should be able to get an answer fairly
easily.
> But I suppose it's still possible Scott had convinced both Amber and
Sibley
> that he lived in Sacto, not Modesto.
> RstJ
The news stories seem to imply that Amber would *never* have gone out with
Snott if she'd known he was married, and this knowing-or-not is a big deal
in the case.
What the hell difference does it make to someone like Amber if her boyfriend
is married or not? She had a history of going out with a married man, and
even showed up at the hospital when his wife had their baby (kee-rist!)
In short: I don't think Amber cared one bit whether Snotty was married or
not. She was looking for some fun and partying and good times with a nice
boyfriend, and he filled the bill. She could give a crap whether or not he
had a wife somewhere, as long as Amber was getting what Amber wanted from
Snott.
The only thing that would matter if whether Amber had a change of heart and
decided *she* wanted to be Mrs. Snott. Is there anything pointing to that?
okerry
Jean Staffen
salacious details of their relationship, I think there is something of more
import involved. Remember early on, Amber's attorney said (approximating
here) that Amber's testimony would knock your socks off. Gloria actually
said, "I thought I'd heard everything."
"okerry" <oke...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:8_YHc.1714$yc.123@fed1read06...
> "Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)" <robert...@yahoo.com>
wrote
> in message news:v6YHc.29206$WX.25818@attbi_s51...
> >
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
> in message news:v6YHc.29206$WX.25818@attbi_s51...
> >
> > "Jean Staffen" <jsta...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:KsXHc.22729$mY2....@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> > > I remember hearing early on in the case that Amber had become suspicious
> of
> > > Scott and asked a friend of a friend (who was a detective) to check him
> out.
> > > I assumed it was a private detective, but it could well have been Byrd.
> If
> > > this is so, Amber had more serious suspicions than Scott's marital
> status.
> >
> > And you'd think a Fresno cop should be able to get an answer fairly
> easily.
> > But I suppose it's still possible Scott had convinced both Amber and
> Sibley
> > that he lived in Sacto, not Modesto.
> > RstJ
>
> The news stories seem to imply that Amber would *never* have gone out with
> Snott if she'd known he was married, and this knowing-or-not is a big deal
> in the case.
Well, Allred's not going to be able to peddle that one to anyone with an IQ
over 60.
>
> What the hell difference does it make to someone like Amber if her boyfriend
> is married or not? She had a history of going out with a married man, and
> even showed up at the hospital when his wife had their baby (kee-rist!)
I think that bit might be embellishment. Of course, this is Amber we're talking
about, so anything's possible.
>
> In short: I don't think Amber cared one bit whether Snotty was married or
> not. She was looking for some fun and partying and good times with a nice
> boyfriend, and he filled the bill. She could give a crap whether or not he
> had a wife somewhere, as long as Amber was getting what Amber wanted from
> Snott.
But what about if she wasn't? I don't think anybody believes Scott would hesitate
for a second to lie about his future plans in order to keep his present pussy
coming.
What happens when Amber stops believing his lies and starts getting pissed off
about being used?
>
> The only thing that would matter if whether Amber had a change of heart and
> decided *she* wanted to be Mrs. Snott. Is there anything pointing to that?
> okerry
Only by weak inference. The first hurdle is proving she knew there was any
Mrs. Peterson to replace. Then you have to get the story from someone you
trust that she was planning on replacing Scott's wife when he divorced/separated/
murdered her. There aren't going to be too many sources for that: Scott, you can't
trust. Sibley obviously isn't going to say anything of the kind, and we still
don't
really know what Amber's going to say about Nov 20-Dec 29. Maybe she mentioned
it to someone else "I'm dating this married guy, but he's getting a divorce and
then he's going to marry me and he's RICH!"
In any case, I don't think there's anything on the tapes to indicate this. But
LE was clearly suspicious of Amber, and five days seems a long time to clear
her. I think the leak to Crier was based on a real report: LE didn't trust Amber
and felt she wasn't telling them the whole truth.
RstJ
Cliff and Linda Griffith
and
> decided *she* wanted to be Mrs. Snott. Is there anything pointing to
that?
> okerry
I think it's rather bold of Amber to send out Christmas cards with their
pictures on them as a couple. After "only four dates", isn't that a bit
presumptuous? That and Ron Frey's comments early-on make me think Amber
*was* seeing herself as the future Mrs. Snott...whether the first or the
second.
Linda
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
> I don't think Amber's testimony is going to be about the soap opera,
> salacious details of their relationship, I think there is something of more
> import involved. Remember early on, Amber's attorney said (approximating
> here) that Amber's testimony would knock your socks off. Gloria actually
> said, "I thought I'd heard everything."
But what can she realistically testify to? Unless she wants to take the stand
and essentially make Sibley a liar, she can't really say she knew Scott was
married. If she didn't know he was married, how can she testify to any suspicious
plotting type activity?
I think most people's socks will stay on for a while yet. The DA clearly is
in no hurry to put their "star witness" on the stand.
RstJ
PScan16416
>pictures on them as a couple. After "only four dates", isn't that a bit
>presumptuous? That and Ron Frey's comments early-on make me think Amber
>*was* seeing herself as the future Mrs. Snott...whether the first or the
>second.
I thought that kind of behavior made men run away from women as fast at they
can?
I have a work friend that was having an affair with a married fellow employee.
He ended going back to the wife and breaking up with her. The dumped
girlfriend wrote a letter to the wife documenting with dates, times, what was
said and DONE during their entire affair.
The wife filed for divorce and used the letter in court to rake the guy over
the coals. They divorced and guess what? He went and married the girlfriend
that wrote the letter to the wife.
Some guys like the psycho's.
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
"PScan16416" <pscan...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040710205024...@mb-m07.aol.com...
> >I think it's rather bold of Amber to send out Christmas cards with their
> >pictures on them as a couple. After "only four dates", isn't that a bit
> >presumptuous? That and Ron Frey's comments early-on make me think Amber
> >*was* seeing herself as the future Mrs. Snott...whether the first or the
> >second.
>
> I thought that kind of behavior made men run away from women as fast at they
> can?
Maybe he was. He doesn't seem to have seen her after Dec 14. Most men would
freak out at this kind of behavior, but most men wouldn't be cheating on their
pregnant wives to begin with and very few go so far as to murder them. In any
case, I don't really think he was running away, but he may very well have wanted
her at arm's length for a while. Long enough that he could take care of business
on the home front.
>
> I have a work friend that was having an affair with a married fellow employee.
> He ended going back to the wife and breaking up with her. The dumped
> girlfriend wrote a letter to the wife documenting with dates, times, what was
> said and DONE during their entire affair.
>
> The wife filed for divorce and used the letter in court to rake the guy over
> the coals. They divorced and guess what? He went and married the girlfriend
> that wrote the letter to the wife.
>
> Some guys like the psycho's.
Maybe that's a bit of insight into what was happening here. Except maybe
Scott wasn't too into the idea of being coal-raked.
RstJ
Salwar Kameez
pissed off
about being used?<<
That wouldn't happen in just three or four weeks, and right before
Christmas to boot.
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
"Salwar Kameez" <salwar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It would if she had some reason to suspect Scott had lied, twice,
about being married. And it would definitely happen if Scott was
selling her some big line about all the time they were going to
spend together soon, then cancelled abruptly with a really lame
excuse.
We're assuming Amber is just some psycho chick who puts her and
Scott's picture in her Xmas cards because she lives in a fantasy land.
But isn't it far more likely Scott was promising her the moon, the
sun, and the stars? We've seen how much of a liar he is. Not hard
to imagine he was selling her on marriage or at least strongly hinting
at that. Shatter someone's dreams, especially their foolish ones,
and they get very, very angry. The G will try to suggest that's exactly
what happened.
RstJ
Jean Staffen
to far from Laci and Scott? If so, isn't it possible that Amber's sister
did a little digging and discovered he didn't live there by himself? And
wasn't Officer Byrd a friend of Amber's sister's? It makes sense to me that
Amber mentioned to her sister that she was going out with a buy who lived
near her, the sister checked him out and found out enough to suggest that
Amber call Byrd about him. It was probably Byrd who found out for sure that
Scott was married and called Amber at the party. I consider that all of
these people were living in La-La Land. Poor Laci with her HGTV playhouse
and hunky hubby, Scott with his fantacies of being an international playboy,
Amber with her dreams of instant relationship and the parents all standing
by watching and none of them calling the kids on their crap.
"Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:La5Ic.49988$JR4.18688@attbi_s54...
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
> Didn't I read somewhere early on in the case that Amber's sister lived not
> to far from Laci and Scott? If so, isn't it possible that Amber's sister
> did a little digging and discovered he didn't live there by himself? And
> wasn't Officer Byrd a friend of Amber's sister's? It makes sense to me that
> Amber mentioned to her sister that she was going out with a buy who lived
> near her, the sister checked him out and found out enough to suggest that
> Amber call Byrd about him. It was probably Byrd who found out for sure that
> Scott was married and called Amber at the party. I consider that all of
> these people were living in La-La Land. Poor Laci with her HGTV playhouse
> and hunky hubby, Scott with his fantacies of being an international playboy,
> Amber with her dreams of instant relationship and the parents all standing
> by watching and none of them calling the kids on their crap.
Yeah, I've heard the rumor about Ava Frey. Amber doesn't seem to be too
close to her sister that I can tell, viz. her staying with Laci's friends in
Modesto.
Of course, maybe her sister lives in a van. Or worse, is married and doesn't
want Amber "married guy magnet" hanging around. Byrd would make sense
for Amber's mystery informant, but it's hard to believe that by Dec 29, Amber
hadn't figured it out for herself. Maybe he was just the push that made her
finally call the police. It's one thing if your party friends know that Scott
Peterson
in the news is your boyfriend. It's quite another when one of your cop friends
knows it.
Not sure whose parents could have called anybody on anything. Laci's obviously
thought Scott was a great guy. Scott's wouldn't have known about Amber. And
Papa Frey wouldn't have known too much about his daughter's new boyfriend,
or at least not that he was married. Besides, these people are all in their late
20s anyway. Their parents aren't supposed to be running their lives.
RstJ
Jean Staffen
>
> Yeah, I've heard the rumor about Ava Frey. Amber doesn't seem to be too
> close to her sister that I can tell, viz. her staying with Laci's friends
in
> Modesto.
Good point.
> Of course, maybe her sister lives in a van. Or worse, is married and
doesn't
> want Amber "married guy magnet" hanging around. Byrd would make sense
> for Amber's mystery informant, but it's hard to believe that by Dec 29,
Amber
> hadn't figured it out for herself.
When the gonads kick in, the brains fly out the window.
Maybe he was just the push that made her
> finally call the police. It's one thing if your party friends know that
Scott
> Peterson
> in the news is your boyfriend. It's quite another when one of your cop
friends
> knows it.
>
Yeah, when Laci went missing, the party got rough and Amber had to cover her
butt.
Or maybe Gloria is right, and Amber really is a saint and just wanted to
help the effort.
> Not sure whose parents could have called anybody on anything. Laci's
obviously
> thought Scott was a great guy. Scott's wouldn't have known about Amber.
And
> Papa Frey wouldn't have known too much about his daughter's new boyfriend,
> or at least not that he was married. Besides, these people are all in
their late
> 20s anyway. Their parents aren't supposed to be running their lives.
Yeah, that's the ideal. But even grown up kids with families of their own,
have been known to appreciate the advise of their parents.
> RstJ
okerry
ITA. I still think that Amber decided to push things along a little by
calling Snott's home phone number, and got lucky when Laci either answered
the phone or figured out what was on the other end. The resulting fight
between Laci and Snott ended with Laci being dead.
It's not at all unusual for a married man's girlfriend to make sure his wife
knows something is up. She's hoping the wife will throw him out, straight
into her loving arms, as in the example above from another poster. It
happens all the time.
okerry
Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)
"okerry" <oke...@lycos.com> wrote in message news:cagIc.13584$yc.40@fed1read06...
Sure. And that might be exactly what happened. But the five already made
anchors, the license, the boat, the excuse to Amber, and the ability to do
all this and find good deep water nearby in a big hurry argue strongly
against it.
RstJ
Bradley K. Sherman
Maggie <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote:
>
> Frey placed an almost hourlong call to Byrd's home the night of Dec. 21, 2002
>-- three days before Peterson was reported missing, according to the phone
>records.
Amber knew he was married before the murder, it would seem.
The only question now is how complicit she is in the murder.
She almost certainly caused it by calling Laci, or giving
Scott an ulimatum.
--bks