Melanie Mcguire is innocent
Josh
fund. It's so obvious that beautiful Melanie had no capacity to commit this
horrible crime. There was "NO" evidence linking her to the crime. She does
not belong in jail. Please, we need your support.
http://www.melaniemcguire.com/
Josh
truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible crime.
"Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
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Bo Raxo
Why is it obvious she couldn't do it?
She was having an affair. She'd told her lover she was going to leave her
husband. When the husband closed on a new house, and her lover asked what
this meant, she told him "Don't worry. Everything is going to be fine" - and
Bill McGuire was never seen again.
A search of their computer found 40 - 40! - murder-related searches on
google, including "instant undetectable poison," "toxic insulin levels,"
"how to purchase guns illegally," and best of all: "how to commit murder."
Melanie's defense claimed she didn't use that computer, her husband did, but
there were numerous romantic emails stored on it between her and the doctor
she was having an affair with.
Bill McGuire was sedated with Chloral hydrate. Someone did a search about
chloral hydrate on that computer, then a minute later looked up the nearest
Walgreen's. The chloral hydrate used to sedate him was purchased with a
forged prescription filled at a Walgreen's the one closest to the preschool
their kids attended - a two minute drive from the school. The forged
prescription was from the pad of the doctor Melanie was having an affair
with.
And when the police told her that her husband's dismembered body had been
found, she didn't shed a single tear. She talked to the detectives for
fifteen minutes and spent most of it disparaging her late husband - his day
trading losses, his gambling, his "big mouth". She only asked one question:
whether they'd found his car. When she was told they hadn't, she suggested
they look in Atlantic City - and guess what, they found it in a hotel
parking lot there.
A witness at the trial testified that Melanie admitted parking the vehicle
there herself, as a "prank", something she didn't mention to the detectives.
Oh, and she bought a gun and ammo - two days before her husband disappeared.
She's guilty as all hell. She's similar to Scott Peterson - she figured if
her spouse disappeared and there was no smoking gun pointing to her, she'd
get away with it. Trouble was, the computer forensics and the forged
prescription point to her, the affair gives her motive, and her behavior
after the disappearance looks mighty strange.
She was sentenced to life in prison, and she's never getting out. How you
can be dumb enough to think she is innocent, I cannot fathom.
Bo Raxo
Bo Raxo
>I personally have exchanged a few letters with Mel and I can vouch for her
> truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible
> crime.
>
Because she writes a nice letter?
Bwaaa haaa haaa haaaaa.
How do you explain the prescription for the sedative used on the victim,
coming from the pad of the doctor she was having an affair with?
How do you explain her telling the detectives to look for his car at
Atlantic City casinos, but not mentioning that she was the one who parked it
there?
How do you explain her burying her face in her hands and looking sad when
told her husband's body was found, but not shedding a tear and spending the
next fifteen minutes talking about what a terrible guy he was?
There was a LOT of evidence linking her to this crime - on her computer, the
testimony of her boss/lover, the forged prescription filled two minutes from
her kids' preschool at a location looked up on the family's computer, the
forty google searches about how to murder someone, the gun she bought two
days before he disappeared.
You're a sucker, getting played. How much did you put in her commisary
account?
Chocolic
"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Wow, did you do your homework before replying, or did you follow this case
when it was happening?
I was going to check out some of the news articles but didn't have to after
reading your post.
Sounds to me like she's guilty as hell.
Chocolic
Bo Raxo
"Chocolic" <chatt...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I vaguely remembered the case, but had to google up the details to refresh
my memory. The smoking gun has got to be the prescription pad - she's
having an affair with her boss, a doc at the fertility clinic, and it's a
stolen blank from his pad used to write the scrip for the sedative used on
the victim.
> I was going to check out some of the news articles but didn't have to
> after reading your post.
>
> Sounds to me like she's guilty as hell.
>
Yup. I'd be surprised if the web site generated any money whatsoever, but I
am guessing either the lawyers set up the site to see if they can grab a few
bucks or it is this guy who is showing how much he loves her.
Sad. Sick. She'll rot in prison for the rest of her life, which is as it
should be.
AusWendy
"Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
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>I personally have exchanged a few letters with Mel and I can vouch for her
> truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible
> crime.
>
>
Also I bet her "innocence" has something to do with the fact that you
referred to her as beautiful in your first post lol.
Get real idiot, any one can write ANYTHING in a letter. You remind me of
the people that fall for the Nigerian scams lol.
Aus Wendy
Josh
"AusWendy" <n...@notlikely.com> wrote in message
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Melanie was a NURSE her entire adult life. As she explains in her letter,
she was in the business of GIVING life to people, not taking it away. And I
might add, her attorney, Joe Tacopina said he was shocked that 12 jurors
could have reached such a verdict. Mr. Tacopina would NOT be defending
Melanie if he thought she was guilty with his reputation. Also, Melanie
had children by her husband Bill and even thought they were having marital
troubles there is no way Melanie McGuire could kill the father of her
children (she explains this in her letter). What the hell is wrong with
jurors these days? They are just out to "get" somebody I think.
tiny dancer
Joe Tacopina is also Joran Van Der Sloot's lawyer. Now we all heard Joran
admit to being with Natalee Holloway when she died, and disposing of her
body. All the while Tacopina insisting upon the *fact* that 'joran is
innocent'.
As for Melanie, doctors kill, nurses kill, even priests and rabbi's kill.
And mothers and fathers also kill the other 'parent' of their children all
the time. Look at Jeffrey MacDonald, doctor, killed not only his wife, but
his two children and the unborn child his wife was carrying. You have to
take each case individually, the quality and quantity of the evidence
against them. Defense lawyers say all the time 'there was no evidence
against my client.' They get paid to do so.
td
Charlie Wilkes
>
> And when the police told her that her husband's dismembered body had
> been found, she didn't shed a single tear.
I would have. What is with these losers who can't be troubled to weight
down a body so it will not wash up on shore later? You need to get nylon
netting, nylon rope, and half a dozen heavy cinder blocks... and pick a
spot where the water is deep enough so the body won't get snagged by an
anchor or fishing tackle.
Charlie
Kris Baker
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
Didn't work for Scott Peterson, did it?
It's harder than you think. As a body decomposes, it will break apart
at the points where the weights are tied. Typically, the arms, legs
and neck are weighted....and Mother Nature (and Laci) fought that
arrangement mightily. Tie them around the waist, and the spine
will eventually come apart, leaving you with two floating chunks.
It's best to use a woodchipper first, in the dark, far off a road (so
no one sees you do it). And pick up the fingernails.
Kris
Charlie Wilkes
> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:18:49 -0700, Bo Raxo wrote:
>>>
>>> And when the police told her that her husband's dismembered body had
>>> been found, she didn't shed a single tear.
>>
>> I would have. What is with these losers who can't be troubled to
>> weight down a body so it will not wash up on shore later? You need to
>> get nylon netting, nylon rope, and half a dozen heavy cinder blocks...
>> and pick a spot where the water is deep enough so the body won't get
>> snagged by an anchor or fishing tackle.
>>
>> Charlie
>
> Didn't work for Scott Peterson, did it?
He didn't do it right. The way to do it is to wrap the netting around
the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at each end.
Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than to the body
itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints can break apart
in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped behind the netting.
>
> It's harder than you think. As a body decomposes, it will break apart
> at the points where the weights are tied. Typically, the arms, legs
> and neck are weighted....and Mother Nature (and Laci) fought that
> arrangement mightily. Tie them around the waist, and the spine will
> eventually come apart, leaving you with two floating chunks.
>
> It's best to use a woodchipper first, in the dark, far off a road (so no
> one sees you do it). And pick up the fingernails.
Have you ever used a wood chipper? It would splatter evidence all over
the place, and it would be all but impossible to clean the machine
afterwards.
It's much better to come up with a simple but meticulously thought out
plan. From what I have seen, people screw up on murder because they make
obvious mistakes that are familiar to anyone who reads this group on a
regular basis.
-- They type "how to kill husband/wife" into Google and make no effort to
wipe their search history.
-- They load a body dripping with blood into their car.
-- They drive around with the body in the trunk and a cell phone in their
pocket, leaving digital footprints at every point along their route.
-- They fail to dispose of the body properly (Scott Peterson).
-- They come up with a half-baked plan for body disposal, and then are
forced to improvise when it doesn't work (Thomas Capano).
Drew Peterson probably avoided all of these mistakes, and he may very
well get away with murder, even though he is all but gloating about it in
the media.
Charlie
tiny dancer
"comadrejo" <comad...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:comadrejo-t-D0D9...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com>,
> Ancient Egyptians mummified bodies. I think disemboweling the stomach
> and the large and small intestine will help, and doing something about
> the liver won't hurt either for the dastardly, in keeping the body
> hidden beneath the waves.
>
> If that doesn't work, dress the body as a sea lion throw some horse
> blood on it and dump it at Año Nuevo Reserve south of Half Moon Bay and
> north of Santa Cruz. The area is like a "Whole Foods" for great white
> sharks. Some of the fattest and biggest great white sharks in the world
> are around there from a diet of sea lions and elephant seals..
> Overeaters Anonymous should start a support group for the sharks in the
> area...
I was thinking along your lines, comadrejo. My suggestion was 'haul the
body to Florida and dump it along alligator alley.'
td
Charlie Wilkes
> In article <r0bFj.33060$by3....@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> One needs an animal that has a bite to crush bones, or isn't a picky
> eater, to me that eradicates any sort of feline. Actually a very good
> animal to wipe away evidence but it takes some time are vultures, and
> some vultures have beaks that can break bones..
All these ideas add unnecessary complications. Why would you want to
disembowel the body to prevent decomposition? What you want to do is get
rid of the body as quickly as possible and without leaving traces. And
you don't want alligators or any kind of large wildlife feeding on it
because a half-eaten limb might get left in a place where it could be
found.
I live on the West Coast, in the San Juan Islands. For me, body disposal
would be a matter of proper packaging, as I have described, and a boat
trip out to President Channel, north of Orcas Island. The water there is
almost 1,000 feet deep in places. Nobody can anchor there, and no divers
or fishing tackle will go that deep.
For people living inland, the thing to do is to pick out a burial spot
before-hand... one that is in a spot where no one is likely to go.
Commit your murder, wait for dark, transport the corpse to the burial
site, and plant it at least 3 feet deep. Pack the grave nice and tight
and spread leaves over it to try to make it look as undisturbed as
possible.
Without a body, it's very hard for the authorities to get a conviction.
If Laci Peterson's body hadn't washed ashore, her husband would be a free
man today. Ditto Thomas Capano and the blood-spattered ice chest left
floating around in an area where it was found by another boater. Both
these guys were on the right track, but they were sloppy with the details.
Charlie
Kris Baker
In the "woodchipper murder" (Helle Crafts), the big mistake was
in using the chipper off a road, where someone spotted the
husband.
First, you get an untraceable woodchipper (you don't rent it!),
and you don't buy a freezer a few days before, either. Your
body disposal system must include items that no one knew
you had.....and which you can easily abandon (ie, throw into
a deep lake when no one's around). That includes towing
the "body disposal system" on a trailer, and dumping it in
the lake, also.
Drew Peterson was very smart, and thought it through well.
But the little things trip you up. Something will expose him,
and I think it'll be his big mouth.
Kris
Kris Baker
news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>
> the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at each end.
> Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than to the body
> itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints can break apart
> in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped behind the netting.
What kind of netting would work? Anything made of an organic
product will degrade in the water, especially when enclosing a
decomposing body.
I suggest chain-link fencing.....which one could steal ;)
The beauty of chain-link is that you can easily attach the weights,
and enclose the chain-link over a blue-colored plastic tarp that
encloses the "evidence".
Kris
Charlie Wilkes
> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>>
>> He didn't do it right. The way to do it is to wrap the netting around
>> the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at each end.
>> Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than to the body
>> itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints can break
>> apart in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped behind the
>> netting.
>
> What kind of netting would work? Anything made of an organic product
> will degrade in the water, especially when enclosing a decomposing body.
That's why I specify nylon netting and nylon rope. I am thinking of the
kind of netting that gardeners use to protect berries and vegetables from
birds.
>
> I suggest chain-link fencing.....which one could steal ;)
>
> The beauty of chain-link is that you can easily attach the weights, and
> enclose the chain-link over a blue-colored plastic tarp that encloses
> the "evidence".
Chain link fencing would be hard to transport in the back of a car, and
hard to work with. You'd need a heavy duty cutter, like a bolt cutter.
If you were going to use any metal product, hog wire or hardware cloth
would be easier to handle than chain link. But I think nylon is the way
to go. The only thing that degrades nylon is sunlight.
Charlie
tiny dancer
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
IIRC, Capano was already under arrest when the ice chest *surfaced*. I
don't recall it being blood spattered. I thought it had bullet holes in it.
Capano's downfall was getting his druggie brother to assist him in the
disposal. The bother flipped and fingered him.
As for Scott Peterson, I think they would have tried him anyway, body or no
body. Others have been tried and convicted with no body. Me, I'd still
haul the body to florida and let the alligators and crocs 'have at it'. I
doubt they'd leave much edible behind. ;)
td
Kris Baker
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:30:29 +0000, Kris Baker wrote:
>
>> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>>>
>>> He didn't do it right. The way to do it is to wrap the netting around
>>> the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at each end.
>>> Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than to the body
>>> itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints can break
>>> apart in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped behind the
>>> netting.
>>
>> What kind of netting would work? Anything made of an organic product
>> will degrade in the water, especially when enclosing a decomposing body.
>
> That's why I specify nylon netting and nylon rope. I am thinking of the
> kind of netting that gardeners use to protect berries and vegetables from
> birds.
Not strong enough. The fish (which eat on bodies) have teeth
that can chew through netting.
>> I suggest chain-link fencing.....which one could steal ;)
>>
>> The beauty of chain-link is that you can easily attach the weights, and
>> enclose the chain-link over a blue-colored plastic tarp that encloses
>> the "evidence".
>
> Chain link fencing would be hard to transport in the back of a car, and
> hard to work with. You'd need a heavy duty cutter, like a bolt cutter.
> If you were going to use any metal product, hog wire or hardware cloth
> would be easier to handle than chain link. But I think nylon is the way
> to go. The only thing that degrades nylon is sunlight.
>
> Charlie
Put on a pair of pantyhose, Charlie....and see what degrades nylon ;)
I'm not transporting the body in the back of a car. I'm rolling that
thing up onto a trailer, and then strapping it down. Then I cover
it all with black tarp. I'll drive down a country road in the dark,
stop on top of a bridge, and dump the body and trailer overboard
into the deep lake ;)
Kris
Amy Guskin
(in article <BgfFj.16077$5K1....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>):
>
> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:30:29 +0000, Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>>> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>> He didn't do it right. The way to do it is to wrap the netting around
>>>> the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at each end.
>>>> Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than to the body
>>>> itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints can break
>>>> apart in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped behind the
>>>> netting.
>>>
>>> What kind of netting would work? Anything made of an organic product
>>> will degrade in the water, especially when enclosing a decomposing body.
>>
>> That's why I specify nylon netting and nylon rope. I am thinking of the
>> kind of netting that gardeners use to protect berries and vegetables from
>> birds.
>
> Not strong enough. The fish (which eat on bodies) have teeth
> that can chew through netting. <<
Heck, the _birds_ can tear through it!
Amy
--
"In my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and over
again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda." - George
W. Bush, May 24, 2005
Cliff and Linda Griffith
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> As for Scott Peterson, I think they would have tried him anyway, body or
> no body. Others have been tried and convicted with no body. Me, I'd
> still haul the body to florida and let the alligators and crocs 'have at
> it'. I doubt they'd leave much edible behind. ;)
>
>
> td
So...you're saying that alligators and crocodiles especially enjoy the
edible behind? ;-)
Linda
tiny dancer
"Cliff and Linda Griffith" <grif...@charter.net> wrote in message
news:EkgFj.128$jr...@newsfe07.lga...
LOL, what's that saying about 'a good piece of ass'. ;-> And I bet you
thought it only had one meaning, 'eh? ;-]
td
>
>
tiny dancer
> up in the ventral cavity during putrification and decomposition, the
> decomposing gases can explode with much force...
>> What you want to do is get
>> rid of the body as quickly as possible and without leaving traces. And
>> you don't want alligators or any kind of large wildlife feeding on it
>> because a half-eaten limb might get left in a place where it could be
>> found.
>>
>> I live on the West Coast, in the San Juan Islands. For me, body disposal
>> would be a matter of proper packaging, as I have described, and a boat
>> trip out to President Channel, north of Orcas Island. The water there is
>> almost 1,000 feet deep in places. Nobody can anchor there, and no divers
>> or fishing tackle will go that deep.
>
>
> be evil, don't dump victim in a high flowing strong current channel
> like the President Channel west of Orcas Island. Actually I would keep
> away from from areas with really strong changing currents and major
> flows during the high tide and low tide. Any sort of constriction
> points and channels is like a slow moving garden hose that can wash any
> debris from a wrapped up package on any of the islands around there, no
> matter if the depth is huge or not, or take to the west side of
> Vancouver Island. It is better off getting out of the Georgia
> Strait/Puget Sound/San Juan de Fuca Area and putting something in the
> California Current way out to sea...
>
> I am in the philosophy that there is no such thing as a perfect crime,
> and the perpetrator will stumble somewhere during their act and cover
> up. I just think Locard's exchange principle always will reveal the
> perpetrator, and fooproof method in hiding the body is redundant if the
> motive is very obvious to a layperson, the motive tends to trip up the
> suspect/perpetrator, and will reveal the activities of the suspect, no
> matter how clever is the perpetrator.
Again the *you guys* do realize if anybody we know turns up dead some day,
all this will be googled up and entered at trial much the way Melanie
Mcquires computer evidence was. How many of us have googled lots of crap to
do with murder, bodies, evidence, disposal, etc. ;)
td
Indigo Ace
<kris....@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
>news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:30:29 +0000, Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>>> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>> He didn't do it right. The way to do it is to wrap the netting around
>>>> the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at each end.
>>>> Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than to the body
>>>> itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints can break
>>>> apart in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped behind the
>>>> netting.
>>>
>>> What kind of netting would work? Anything made of an organic product
>>> will degrade in the water, especially when enclosing a decomposing body.
>>
>> That's why I specify nylon netting and nylon rope. I am thinking of the
>> kind of netting that gardeners use to protect berries and vegetables from
>> birds.
>
>Not strong enough. The fish (which eat on bodies) have teeth
>that can chew through netting.
>
Chickenwire?
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Charlie Wilkes
> Read about body decomposition and some of the pictures of gas build
> up in the ventral cavity during putrification and decomposition, the
> decomposing gases can explode with much force...
>> What you want to do is get
>> rid of the body as quickly as possible and without leaving traces. And
>> you don't want alligators or any kind of large wildlife feeding on it
>> because a half-eaten limb might get left in a place where it could be
>> found.
>>
>> I live on the West Coast, in the San Juan Islands. For me, body
>> disposal would be a matter of proper packaging, as I have described,
>> and a boat trip out to President Channel, north of Orcas Island. The
>> water there is almost 1,000 feet deep in places. Nobody can anchor
>> there, and no divers or fishing tackle will go that deep.
>
>
> If you (general you, like all you all, not personal you) are going to
> be evil, don't dump victim in a high flowing strong current channel
> like the President Channel west of Orcas Island. Actually I would keep
I'm familiar with President Channel. People scuttle old boats and
washing machines there. I have it on good authority that heavily
weighted objects of any kind go down and stay down.
> away from from areas with really strong changing currents and major
> flows during the high tide and low tide. Any sort of constriction
> points and channels is like a slow moving garden hose that can wash any
> debris from a wrapped up package on any of the islands around there, no
> matter if the depth is huge or not, or take to the west side of
> Vancouver Island. It is better off getting out of the Georgia
> Strait/Puget Sound/San Juan de Fuca Area and putting something in the
> California Current way out to sea...
>
> I am in the philosophy that there is no such thing as a perfect crime,
> and the perpetrator will stumble somewhere during their act and cover
> up. I just think Locard's exchange principle always will reveal the
> perpetrator, and fooproof method in hiding the body is redundant if the
> motive is very obvious to a layperson, the motive tends to trip up the
> suspect/perpetrator, and will reveal the activities of the suspect, no
> matter how clever is the perpetrator.
The term "perfect crime" dignifies something that is commonplace.
Ordinary people get away with murder all the time, simply by being
careful and perhaps lucky.
Charlie
Charlie Wilkes
> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:30:29 +0000, Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>>> "Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2008.03...@users.easynews.com...
>>>>
>>>> He didn't do it right. The way to do it is to wrap the netting
>>>> around the entire body, several times, and then bind the package at
>>>> each end. Then attach the cinder blocks to the bindings rather than
>>>> to the body itself. That way the body can decompose, and the joints
>>>> can break apart in any fashion, but the bones will remain trapped
>>>> behind the netting.
>>>
>>> What kind of netting would work? Anything made of an organic product
>>> will degrade in the water, especially when enclosing a decomposing
>>> body.
>>
>> That's why I specify nylon netting and nylon rope. I am thinking of
>> the kind of netting that gardeners use to protect berries and
>> vegetables from birds.
>
> Not strong enough. The fish (which eat on bodies) have teeth that can
> chew through netting.
???
I've never heard of fish chewing through netting.
>>> I suggest chain-link fencing.....which one could steal ;)
>>>
>>> The beauty of chain-link is that you can easily attach the weights,
>>> and enclose the chain-link over a blue-colored plastic tarp that
>>> encloses the "evidence".
>>
>> Chain link fencing would be hard to transport in the back of a car, and
>> hard to work with. You'd need a heavy duty cutter, like a bolt cutter.
>> If you were going to use any metal product, hog wire or hardware cloth
>> would be easier to handle than chain link. But I think nylon is the
>> way to go. The only thing that degrades nylon is sunlight.
>>
>> Charlie
>
> Put on a pair of pantyhose, Charlie....and see what degrades nylon ;)
>
> I'm not transporting the body in the back of a car. I'm rolling that
> thing up onto a trailer, and then strapping it down. Then I cover it
> all with black tarp. I'll drive down a country road in the dark, stop
> on top of a bridge, and dump the body and trailer overboard into the
> deep lake ;)
Why complicate matters with a trailer? Are you afraid that even with a
tarp you might leave some kind of DNA traces in the vehicle?
Charlie
Kris Baker
"Charlie Wilkes" <charlie...@users.easynews.com> wrote in message
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>
> tarp you might leave some kind of DNA traces in the vehicle?
>
> Charlie
IF the package is somehow found, I don't want any trace of
it having been in the vehicle. The trailer is disposable and
will sink fast.
Good insurance for under $1,000....or stolen ;)
Kris
Charlie Wilkes
Chickenwire might corrode fairly quickly in salt water. I think nylon
netting would be the best. I can't believe fish would chew through it.
In fact, I don't think fish would feed on it... crabs might.
Charlie
AusWendy
"Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
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>
> "AusWendy" <n...@notlikely.com> wrote in message
> news:47e4af8c$0$5116$c30e...@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
>> news:NJSdnYnquvcIFnna...@comcast.com...
>> >I personally have exchanged a few letters with Mel and I can vouch for
> her
>> > truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible
>> > crime.
>> >
>> >
>> Also I bet her "innocence" has something to do with the fact that you
>> referred to her as beautiful in your first post lol.
>>
>> Get real idiot, any one can write ANYTHING in a letter. You remind me of
>> the people that fall for the Nigerian scams lol.
>>
>> Aus Wendy
>>
> No need for name calling. That was rude. You have to understand that
> Melanie was a NURSE
A nurse and of course they NEVER kill do they? A profession has nothing to
do with whether or not you are likely to murder. Many many nurses have been
murderers.
Time to remove the rose tinted glasses. If you are so convinced that she is
innocent give me some good arguments to convince me. Telling me that she
had children to her husband and that she was a nurse are not reasons for her
NOT TO KILL.
Aus Wendy
Beth In Alaska
"Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
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> "AusWendy" <n...@notlikely.com> wrote in message
> news:47e4af8c$0$5116$c30e...@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
>> news:NJSdnYnquvcIFnna...@comcast.com...
>> >I personally have exchanged a few letters with Mel and I can vouch for
> her
>> > truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible
>> > crime.
>> >
>> >
>> Also I bet her "innocence" has something to do with the fact that you
>> referred to her as beautiful in your first post lol.
>>
>> Get real idiot, any one can write ANYTHING in a letter. You remind me of
>> the people that fall for the Nigerian scams lol.
>>
>> Aus Wendy
>>
> No need for name calling. That was rude. You have to understand that
> she was in the business of GIVING life to people, not taking it away. And
> I
> might add, her attorney, Joe Tacopina said he was shocked that 12 jurors
> could have reached such a verdict. Mr. Tacopina would NOT be defending
> Melanie if he thought she was guilty with his reputation. Also, Melanie
> had children by her husband Bill and even thought they were having marital
> troubles there is no way Melanie McGuire could kill the father of her
> children (she explains this in her letter). What the hell is wrong with
> jurors these days? They are just out to "get" somebody I think.
So nurses are incapable of hurting anyone? This group has seen scores of
cases that prove otherwise.
Chocolic
"Beth In Alaska" <beth...@spamfreeclearwire.net> wrote in message
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I think Josh is smitten by her letters.
Chocolic
AusWendy
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And her looks after all it seems quite important to him that she is
"beautiful". OOhhh maybe he thinks that only "ugly" people can be
killers?????
Aus Wendy
Marianna
> > down a body so it will not wash up on shore later? You need to get nylon
> > netting, nylon rope, and half a dozen heavy cinder blocks... and pick a
> > spot where the water is deep enough so the body won't get snagged by an
> > anchor or fishing tackle.
>
> Didn't work for Scott Peterson, did it?
>
> It's harder than you think. As a body decomposes, it will break apart
> at the points where the weights are tied. Typically, the arms, legs
> and neck are weighted....and Mother Nature (and Laci) fought that
> arrangement mightily. Tie them around the waist, and the spine
> will eventually come apart, leaving you with two floating chunks.
>
> It's best to use a woodchipper first, in the dark, far off a road (so
> no one sees you do it). And pick up the fingernails.
>
> Kris
Remind me to never say or do anything that might remotely piss off
either one of you. :)
Marianna
Amy Guskin
(in article <b9udnVyfqoqPlnja...@comcast.com>):
> You have to understand that
> Melanie was a NURSE her entire adult life. As she explains in her letter,
> she was in the business of GIVING life to people, not taking it away. <<
Right. And Catholic priests never have sex with little boys...they're
CATHOLIC PRIESTS for their entire adult lives!
Seriously, after the Tacopina comment, did anyone else get the idea that this
is someone having fun with us? I'm having trouble believing someone would
legitimately believe any of the stuff being said.
mylife...@gmail.com
> "AusWendy" <n...@notlikely.com> wrote in message
>
> news:47e4af8c$0$5116$c30e...@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> >news:NJSdnYnquvcIFnna...@comcast.com...
> > >I personally have exchanged a few letters with Mel and I can vouch for
> her
> > > truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible
> > > crime.
>
> > Also I bet her "innocence" has something to do with the fact that you
> > referred to her as beautiful in your first post lol.
>
> > Get real idiot, any one can write ANYTHING in a letter. You remind me of
> > the people that fall for the Nigerian scams lol.
>
> > Aus Wendy
>
> Melanie was a NURSE her entire adult life. As she explains in her letter,
> she was in the business of GIVING life to people, not taking it away.
You are not really pulling out the "nurse" card are you? Ok, what
about Donald Harvey? Or Charles Cullen? Or Genene Jones? Or Beverley
Allitt What about Michael Swango or Harold Shipman? All of these
were health care professionals, yet they killed? So your argument
holds absolutely no water.
AusWendy
"Amy Guskin" <ais...@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:34:52 -0400, Josh wrote
> (in article <b9udnVyfqoqPlnja...@comcast.com>):
>
>> You have to understand that
>> Melanie was a NURSE her entire adult life. As she explains in her
>> letter,
>> she was in the business of GIVING life to people, not taking it away.
>> <<
>
> Right. And Catholic priests never have sex with little boys...they're
> CATHOLIC PRIESTS for their entire adult lives!
>
Right. Also what about the nuns that have been found guilty of child abuse
etc just recently???
A person's "calling"/career/job doesn't determine whether they can kill or
not.
Aus Wendy
Peter Dworkin
The problem is in the transportation. More handling gives the Locard
Principle of Exchange more chances to work its devilment upon your plan.
--
Anyone who has ever heard what Santayana said is condemned to hear it
repeated.
Good Luck to anyone trying to learn Aramaic.
Kindest Regards,
Peter
Bo Raxo
>
>
>
> Again the *you guys* do realize if anybody we know turns up dead some day,
> all this will be googled up and entered at trial much the way Melanie
> Mcquires computer evidence was. How many of us have googled lots of crap
> to do with murder, bodies, evidence, disposal, etc. ;)
>
My defense attorney will be able to show I've had an interest in these
subjects going back decades.
But no matter, nobody is going to turn up dead. Because once you encase the
corpse in cement and dump it in a deep body of water, no chance of anything
turning up :)
Chocolic
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I'm on your good side, right Bo? Right?
Chocolic
Bo Raxo
You're what, about 5' 8"? So I'll need enough concrete to cover that
length, three feet wide, say two feet deep....
I'm sorry, what was the question?
rlive...@yahoo.com
enough to do murder and poison searches on a home computer? All evidence against her was circumstantial, in other
words, it can be fabricated. Police and prosecutors are so eager to get convictions, especially in big cases, they suppress exculpatory
evidence and do other nasty stuff like not giving full disclosure to the
defense. The disposal of the body was done in a way to make it look like
it was done by an amateur and to be sure it was found (not sufficiently weighted and discarded too close to shore).
rlive...@yahoo.com
.
heather...@gmail.com
> "Josh" <jummt...@seagate.com> wrote in message
> >I personally have exchanged a few letters with Mel and I can vouch for her
> > truthfulness and honesty. There's NO WAY she committed this horrible
> > crime.
> >
>
>
> Bwaaa haaa haaa haaaaa.
>
> How do you explain the prescription for the sedative used on the victim,
> coming from the pad of the doctor she was having an affair with?
>
> How do you explain her telling the detectives to look for his car at
> Atlantic City casinos, but not mentioning that she was the one who parked it
> there?
>
> How do you explain her burying her face in her hands and looking sad when
> told her husband's body was found, but not shedding a tear and spending the
> next fifteen minutes talking about what a terrible guy he was?
>
> There was a LOT of evidence linking her to this crime - on her computer, the
> testimony of her boss/lover, the forged prescription filled two minutes from
> her kids' preschool at a location looked up on the family's computer, the
> forty google searches about how to murder someone, the gun she bought two
> days before he disappeared.
>
> You're a sucker, getting played. How much did you put in her commisary
> account?
> > news:O9OdnZs1sqjqF3na...@comcast.com...
> >> Please visit this link and make a contribution to her appeal and defense
> >> fund. It's so obvious that beautiful Melanie had no capacity to commit
> > this
> >> horrible crime. There was "NO" evidence linking her to the crime. She
> > does
> >> not belong in jail. Please, we need your support.
> >>
> >> http://www.melaniemcguire.com/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
Her husband wrote the prescription because he was taking steroids, and this medicine is commonly used with steroids. He visited the hospital a number of times and the prescription pad was sitting on the desk. There was even a witness that said it wasn't her hand writing and her husband had a prior conviction for forgery.