Son Shoots Ex cop Dad/then himself
tinydancer
By Shae Crisson
(10/06/04 - KNIGHTDALE) - The teenage son of a former Raleigh police officer
who was killed last night has also died. Now that investigators confirm that
what happened was a murder suicide, a family friend, who has been with the
family since the shooting Tuesday night tells how it unfolded.
Inside the Kerr family home on Amity Drive in Knightdale, a friend says
15-year old Vincent Kerr Junior, known as JR and his father, 40-year-old
Vincent Kerr were arguing about the crowd JR had been hanging out with.
The family friend tells Eyewitness News that JR told his family "he hated
him." At that point the father went and got his gun and handed it to his son
saying, "if you hate me so much." Then JR shot his father twice, then shot
himself in the head.
Also in the house at the time of the shooting were JR's mother and sister,
Vincent Kerr, Sr's wife and daughter.
Friends describe JR as a good student and soccer player at Enloe High
School, but it appears he had been in trouble lately.
According to Knightdale Police, he had been picked up as a run-a-way on
Monday. Then on Tuesday, during school hours, police found him at a
Wal-Mart. That was just hours before the arguing and shooting with his
father.
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Volfie
> him." At that point the father went and got his gun and handed it to his
son
> saying, "if you hate me so much." Then JR shot his father twice, then shot
> himself in the head.
Holy shit! Talk about your bad ideas.
Giselle (no wonder he was an ex-officer; too bad he still had a gun.)
tinydancer
"Volfie" <vol...@ccrtc.com> wrote in message
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You'd think a cop would know better, 'eh?
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cro...@earthlink.net
he was just obeying his father???
why commit suicide afterwards? horror at what he had done?
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Volfie
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> so, since the father told him "go ahead," is it a crime at all...after
all,
> he was just obeying his father???
So if Daddy tells you to rob a bank then it's not robbery? <aside> Hey,
Dad! How come you never told me about THIS loophole???
> why commit suicide afterwards? horror at what he had done?
Ya THINK?
cro...@earthlink.net
entity...
I think he gets off on the same principle as those who lock their babies
inside cars to fry..."they've suffered so much already..."
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Volfie
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> father told him to commit a "crime" against FATHER, not against some other
> entity...
>
> I think he gets off on the same principle as those who lock their babies
> inside cars to fry..."they've suffered so much already..."
Uh... didn't he die?
Giselle (that's the ultimate "Get Out Of Jail Free" card)
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tinydancer
Teen shoots, kills dad and self
The shootings occur south of Knightdale, investigators say
By OREN DORELL, Staff Writer
KNIGHTDALE -- The 15-year-old son of a former Raleigh police officer shot
his father in the head, apparently during a struggle, then turned the gun on
himself Tuesday night, according to investigators.
Vincent Kennedy Kerr Sr., 40, was dead when emergency workers arrived at the
family's home at 101 Amity Drive, in the Breckenridge subdivision south of
Knightdale. Vincent Kennedy Kerr Jr. died about 5 a.m. at WakeMed.
The shooting occurred in front of Freda Kerr, wife and mother to the two who
died.
Vincent Kerr Sr. retired from the Raleigh Police Department in 1995 after 10
years on the force, on a medical disability related to a work-related injury
to his knee, according to a department spokesman. Four years earlier, he had
shot and killed an innocent bystander during a drug raid, becoming the
lightning rod of a controversy in Raleigh.
A female relative who lives on Milroy Lane in Raleigh said the family was
not ready to talk about what happened.
Wake Sheriff's Lt. Richard L. Johnson wrote in an affidavit for a search
warrant that Freda Kerr called the sheriff's office at 8:28 p.m. and said
she saw her son shoot her husband. Agents with the City-County Bureau of
Identification observed blood, spent shell casings and a body belonging to
Kerr in the living room, "and what appears to be signs of a struggle,"
Johnson wrote.
Vincent Kerr Jr., who lived with his parents, had been taken to WakeMed
Raleigh Campus with a head wound and was unable to give a statement, Johnson
wrote.
Investigators collected a chrome 10 mm Smith & Wesson semiautomatic pistol,
a magazine containing four hollow-tip bullets, and three projectiles and
spent shell casings, according to the warrant.
A Wake sheriff's spokeswoman said investigators are still looking into the
circumstances that led to the shooting.
Sheriff's department records show that deputies visited the Kerr residence
four times since July for a reported runaway child. The name of the child is
omitted from each report, but in each case the child was located within a
week. The last such visit occurred Monday morning.
"Because he's a juvenile 15 years old, there's nothing we can say," said the
spokeswoman, Phyllis Stephens.
The elder Kerr's notoriety in Raleigh began in 1991. He was on a drug raid
on Carver Street when he shot and killed a man he thought was reaching for a
gun. Ivan Lorenzo Ingram, 35, was unarmed and had no drugs on his person or
in his bloodstream.
A Wake County grand jury cleared Kerr of any wrongdoing, and an internal
investigation by the Raleigh Police Department found that Kerr followed
police procedures. Raleigh residents were so disturbed that some posted
bumper stickers saying "Remember Ivan Ingram."
About a year after the shooting, Ingram's family filed suit against the
city, then-Police Chief Fred Heineman and Kerr. Ingram's family temporarily
withdrew the lawsuit while the City Council held a public meeting on the
case and met several times behind closed doors. But council members voted
not to compensate the family -- even for funeral expenses.
The family reinstated the lawsuit, against Kerr only, but it was repeatedly
thrown out of court.
The family's attorney, Geoff Simmons, said Ingram's mother, Soloana, always
hoped that one day Kerr would come to her house and tell her face-to-face
what really happened, but he never did.
Now, "what really did happen in the case will go to the grave with Mr.
Kerr," Simmons said.
Raleigh attorney Gary Parsons, who defended Kerr in the case, said the irony
of the Ingram case was that the drug dealer police were trying to arrest
that day had grown up almost next door to Kerr when they were children.
"That guy went one way, and Vince went another way and into law
enforcement," Parsons said. On the day Ingram was shot, Kerr "did what he
had to do in a bad situation," and in the end he "took a lot of heat for
it," Parsons said.
"Vince was a good guy," Parsons said. "It's a damn shame."
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