Joseph Bader describes cleaning up after mother's death

[DOG3]

Joseph Bader describes cleaning up after mother's death

Associated Press, 04/14/98 02:30

BRENTWOOD, N.H. (AP) - Seth Bader's 15-year-old adopted son said he and his
father drove to Waterboro, Maine, to dig a grave for his adopted mother days
before she was murdered.

Joseph Bader also told jurors Monday about the bloody scene that greeted him in
the kitchen of Seth Bader's Stratham home Aug. 24, 1996.

His adoptive mother, Vicki Bader, was lying on the floor, bleeding from a
gunshot wound to the head, the state's star witness testified.

He put a garbage bag over her, then he and Sandro Stuto cleaned up the blood
with paper towels and spray cleanser, he said.

Seth Bader, Joseph and Stuto then carried Vicki Bader's body down the front
steps and loaded it into Seth Bader's Jeep Cherokee, the teen-ager said.

``We carried her out the front steps and rested there, because she was getting
heavy,'' he said.

As Vicki Bader's body lay in a plastic mat on the floor of the Cherokee,
Bader's fiancee, Mary Jean Martin, returned to the house with Joseph's
8-year-old brother, Matthew, Joseph said. He said Martin unloaded some
groceries and went out shopping again with Matthew and the boys' 3-year-old
brother, Sam.

Prosecutors say Seth Bader, 38, murdered Vicki shortly after she dropped off
Sam for a visit. The Baders were battling for custody of the boy, their only
biological child.

Martin, 34, of Cambridge, Mass., and Stuto, 22, of Everett, Mass., also were
indicted for murder conspiracy. The charge against Martin was dismissed last
week, although it could be reinstated, and Stuto is expected to testify against
Bader as part of a plea agreement.

Joseph Bader went to police a year ago, told them about Vicki Bader's murder
and took them to her grave in woods in Waterboro, Maine, prosecutors say. He
admitted helping lure Vicki Bader into his father's house and digging the
grave.

Joseph testified Monday that he did not witness the shooting. But he said he
saw Seth Bader carry his rifle and a shotgun for Stuto downstairs beforehand,
then saw his father carry the rifle barrel and a spent bullet casing upstairs
afterward.

When Vicki Bader arrived at the house, Joseph took Sam out of his car seat and
played with him outside until Stuto called him, he said. Then he took Sam up to
his room and put the toddler on the bed before going downstairs and seeing the
body, he said.

``She was on the floor not moving. She was bleeding from her head,'' he said.

Joseph, who has not been charged, will face tough cross-examination from
Bader's lawyers, who claim that Joseph and Martin had an affair, killed Vicki
Bader and framed their client.

Joseph has admitted to writing hate letters to Vicki Bader, killing her pet
parakeets and shooting out her windows in the months before her death,
according to court records.

Joseph said Seth Bader made him write the letters, in which Joseph said Vicki
Bader was a ``psycho'' and he wished her dead. Prosecutors today continued
questioning the boy, who turns 16 next month, about the letters.

When asked to describe his relationship with Vicki Bader, Joseph said she was
like a mother to him when the Baders adopted him and Matthew in 1993. Joseph
was 9, Matthew 4. They are distant cousins of Seth Bader.

``She gave me hugs, read me stories and tucked me in at night,'' he said.

Seth Bader mostly ignored him, he said.

``It was like people who happen to live in the same house together, but never
talk to one another,'' he testified. ``The only thing he did was show me how to
shoot guns in the basement. He was always mean to me and my brother.''

Joseph said Seth Bader often complained about giving money to his ex-wife. He
said he and his brother stayed with their adoptive father after the divorce
because they were afraid Vicki Bader, who had tried several times to commit
suicide, would not be able to care for them. He said Seth Bader also frightened
him by telling him Vicki Bader had tried to poison Sam during one of her
suicide attempts.

Joseph originally was scheduled to take the stand a week ago, but the judge
delayed his testimony with no explanation. Later last week, Bader's lawyers
told Judge Walter Murphy that Joseph's caretaker reported he had been cruising
the Internet, looking for information on how to kill people and make bombs.
They also said he had been accused of sexually assaulting a girl at school.

Prosecutors countered with a police report that Seth Bader had tried to locate
Joseph last year in order to ``take him out.''
------------------- In taberna mori
Ut sint vina proxima
Morientis ori.
-- The Archpoet, 12th Century

[baderj...@gmail.com]

Remove this now please fake lies and accounts thanks.

[nansi...@gmail.com]

JUST WATCHED THIS ON THE ID CHANNEL WHAT A SICK HORRIBLE MAN

[magb...@gmail.com]

what a sick demented human being seth bader is....i hope they stick you with their weewees on a daily basis in prison..

[mix]

He'll be the one who stick his dick in. Or you thought only good guys are
doing it with bad guys?
--
mix x

[lct...@yahoo.com]

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 3:07:54 PM UTC-5, nansi...@gmail.com wrote:
> JUST WATCHED THIS ON THE ID CHANNEL WHAT A SICK HORRIBLE MAN

ID doesn't get any story entirely straight. This man did not kill his ex. I've known him since 1992 and visit him in prison along with others who know him. we are at the present time working on getting him exonerated.

[lct...@yahoo.com]

On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 12:44:12 AM UTC-5, baderj...@gmail.com wrote:
> Remove this now please fake lies and accounts thanks.

come on joe, it's time to tell the truth

[lct...@yahoo.com]

you don't know this guy or what this case is all about so shut up

[lct...@yahoo.com]

[lashondasmithr...@gmail.com]

Horrible

[lashondasmithr...@gmail.com]

Just watched this on ID. Incredible how people think they can choose who live and who die!!!!!

[lashondasmithr...@gmail.com]

Were you there???? How can you say He didn't do it?????

[amandaz...@gmail.com]

My prayers are with and have been with the children involved and the family of Vicky. Each persons perspective is different in every situation in life, no ones is less important than anothers-

[gina....@gmail.com]

How do we know this bader who asked the story to be remived is the reall joseph bader? Anyone who kills animals is a real sicko anyway.,,,why would yoy do that to a waoman who lived you? He should be in prison as WELL

[josh....@gmail.com]

I have examined a substantial amount of documentation in the public domain - as a distant impartial party I would suggest there is certainly reasonable doubt as to whether the verdict reached was the right one. Does anyone know what would might have motivated Stuto, from behind bars, to recant his testimony against Seth, and instead implicate Joseph ? There could be a complex reason, but the simplest explanation would seem to be that having struck a deal to testify against Seth he did so, but later felt a desire to put right those wrongs that were not beyond his control. And how do we explain Seth's traffic violation in another state half an hour before the time Joseph alleged the murder took place ? The case seems to rest on the testimony of an angry and unstable teenager and an unreliable accomplice who keeps changing his story. We cannot even rule out that in accusing each other father and adopted son are both protecting Mary Jane. I'm not saying that the verdict is necessarily wrong, just that it appears to be largely based on guesswork rather than hard facts

[josh....@gmail.com]

[josh....@gmail.com]

[terry...@gmail.com]

Joseph Bader,what was your motivation behind this? Why would ever set up the only parent that really loved you? You will never be able to have a normal life.

[tif...@gmail.com]

watching this now on my itunes.... "blood relatives" this is so messed up

[tif...@gmail.com]

On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 1:44:12 PM UTC+8, baderj...@gmail.com wrote:
> Remove this now please fake lies and accounts thanks.

how is this fake? bc this is your family?

[n.mar...@gmail.com]

Joe, I hope that you are ok.

[leesj...@hotmail.co.uk]

I do not think for one minute that Seth did this, where is the evidence, it is all circumstantial. How can you convict somebody on no concrete evidence, not hearsay. Appalling miscarriage of justice, but that is what happens in America time and time again. You have executed innocent people, lots, the justice system is really bad and nobody seems to care. Hope it isn't one of you one day!!

[lhou...@gmail.com]

Go to hell Joesph Bader and rot.

[gregof...@hotmail.com]

On Monday, November 10, 2014 at 7:44:12 AM UTC+2, baderj...@gmail.com wrote:
> Remove this now please fake lies and accounts thanks.

Murderous piece of shit!

[jacquli...@yahoo.com]

Who murdered her then?

[MIKEN]

CALL OR TEXT or watsapp ....+17546663823
Wickr id............budsman35
Email :.......burds...@gmail.com

hello we are leading suppliers of pharmaceutical product meds online we operate on daily and retails basis and very reliable and our product are 100% top quality am ready to supply on large and smaller orders and i am looking in building a strong business relationship with potential client around the world i do world wide delivery and delivery is guarantee.
see price list offer and pm me or you can get me on whatsapp

FOR ZOLPICLONE 7.5MG SMALLER ORDER
250 tabs..........................‎£90
500 tabs...........................‎£150
1000 tabs.........................‎£250
2500 tabs.........................£350
5000 tabs.........................£500
7500 tabs.........................£700
10000 tabs........................£850
15000 tabs........................£1200
25000 tabs........................£1500

FOR DIAZEPAM SHALINA BRAND
diazepam 10mg 500pills £100
diazepam 10mg 300pills £70
diazepam 10mg 1000pills £150
diazepam 10mg 5000pills £350
diazepam 5mg 1000pills £120
diazepam 5mg 5000pills £300
diazepam 5mg 10000pills £500
diazepam 10mg 10000pills £700

FOR ROCHE DIAZEPAMS 10MG SMALLER ORDER
250 tabs..........................‎£90
500 tabs...........................‎£150
1000 tabs.........................‎£250
2500 tabs.........................£350
5000 tabs.........................£500
7500 tabs.........................£700
10000 tabs........................£850
15000 tabs........................£1200
25000 tabs........................£1500

TEVA 10MG DIAZEPAMS SMALLER ORDER
250 tabs...........................‎£90
500 tabs...........................‎£150
1000 tabs.........................‎£250
2500 tabs.........................£350
5000 tabs.........................£500
7500 tabs.........................£700
10000 tabs.......................£850
15000 tabs.......................£1200
25000 tabs.......................£1500

Ketamine hcl liquid 50mg/10mg
5 bottles/vials..........$200
10 bottles/vials.........$300
15 bottles/vials.........$350
20 bottles/vials.........$400
25 bottles/vials.........$600
50 bottles/vials.........$800
75 bottles/vials.........$1000
100 bottles/vials.........$1500
150 bottles/vials.........$2000
200 bottles/vials.........$2500 ..
ketamine £20 each vial/1g
ketamine powder each gram £25

FOR TRAMADOL APPLE FLAVOUR
tramadol 50mg 250pills £80
tramadol 100mg 300pills £90
tramadol 225mg 300pills £120
tramadol 50mg 500pills £130
tramadol 100mg 500pills £140
tramadol 250mg 500pills £150
tramadol 50mg 1000pills £200
tramadol 100mg 1000pills £220
tramadol 250mg 1000pills £250

FOR TRAMADOL BULK ORDER
tramadol 50mg 5000pills £450
tramadol 100mg 5000pills £550
tramadol 250mg 5000pills £700

i also have my delivery records all around the worlds and i providedated pictures with buyers name and my name CALL US OR TEXT ....+17546663823 email for detailsi supply more than the quantity listed,i give additional discount to more larger ordersi look forward in doing great business with reliable buyersthanks email for details burdsman35

CALL OR TEXT or watsapp ....+17546663823
Wickr id............budsman35
Email : ...........burds...@gmail.com

[noad...@gmail.com]

Agreed. They should all be doing life. That poor woman. Burning her pets alive? I don’t feel sorry for Joe Bader...I’d like to put him in an oven.