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Charleroi PA boy charged with killing mother, abusing corpse

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mothra...@hotmail.com

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Feb 16, 2002, 6:41:34 PM2/16/02
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There was an AP story in today's paper--I hope it hasn't already been
posted here; I haven't seen it if it has--about a 15-year-old boy taken
into custody on Thursday on charges of fatally shooting his mother and
abusing her corpse (?).

The boy, John Frank Gebauer, is a ninth grader at Charleroi Area High
School. His (adoptive) mother, Allison Logan Gebauer, was 47. He's
being held without bond on charges of criminal homicide, possession of a
firearm by a minor and abuse of a corpse.

This is out near Pittsburgh, and the boy was stopped by the cops after
he was seen driving a truck erratically. The license plate on the truck
didn't belong to that vehicle, and the boy had a .22-caliber revolver
sticking out of a backpack in the truck. A .38-caliber gun, a
.45-caliber gun and a rifle were also later found in the truck, along
with $700 in cash and coins.

High school officials told police that the boy had been adopted by the
Gebauers when he was in sixth grade, and that he had had problems at
school, running away from home in the past. He was charged as an adult,
which seems wierd to me given that one of the charges against him was
that he was a minor with a gun.

Martha
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Fratrnltwin

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Feb 17, 2002, 9:16:12 PM2/17/02
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It seems that whenever children turn on parents without being abused, they're
adopted. Usually it's as older kids that I guess nobody else wanted. If this
keeps up there won't be hardly any adoptions. Kids given up will just grow up
in foster homes and instutional places.

mothra...@hotmail.com

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Feb 18, 2002, 9:21:18 AM2/18/02
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Well, we certainly don't know that this boy wasn't abused--it's helpful,
btw, if you leave in a bit of the material you're responding to--since
he wasn't adopted until he was in sixth grade. His natural parents may
have lost custody of him because they were abusive, and I mentioned to
someone else in email that his adoptive parents, who live on a large
farm, might have adopted him with "free labor" in the backs of their
minds. I think that a child, especially a child this young, who kills
anyone, especially a parent, has certainly suffered some kind of abuse
during hir short life.

Martha

PattyC

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Feb 18, 2002, 8:38:38 PM2/18/02
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This story is a local one for me. Tonight on the inane 6 PM news they said
they are checking out the parents for child abuse possibilities. (With of
course no facts, no other info....). Probably is nothing. I get the sense
these were 2 people who wanted to do some good...

Odd thought. Not ONE photo yet of Dad on TV or in papers. He was out of
town I think during the murder. But... surely, the skanky press and all,
they would have caught a pic of him at the airport of something.

I want to see Dad's face.

PattyC
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mothra...@hotmail.com

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Feb 18, 2002, 9:07:29 PM2/18/02
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PattyC wrote:
>
> This story is a local one for me. Tonight on the inane 6 PM news they said
> they are checking out the parents for child abuse possibilities. (With of
> course no facts, no other info....). Probably is nothing. I get the sense
> these were 2 people who wanted to do some good...

I bet you're right. I read a magazine article a million years ago about
how (statistically) the adoptions that don't turn out right are the ones
where the adoptive parents go into it with the idea of "doing good" or
of saving some kid from a horrible life--all the *good* reasons for
wanting to adopt, and the ones that were most successful were the ones
where the adoptive parents had no goals for themselves or the kids, no
idea of improving anything, just of taking in a kid who needed a home,
period.

>
> Odd thought. Not ONE photo yet of Dad on TV or in papers. He was out of
> town I think during the murder. But... surely, the skanky press and all,
> they would have caught a pic of him at the airport of something.
>
> I want to see Dad's face.

Well, *I* want to know what the "abuse of a corpse" consisted of.

Martha, thinking Edmund Kemper

PattyC

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Feb 19, 2002, 6:07:31 PM2/19/02
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Well, *I* want to know what the "abuse of a corpse" consisted of.

Martha, thinking Edmund Kemper

He had sex with his adopted mother after he killed her. He confessed to the
killing and the sex pretty much right off the bat.

PattyC
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mothra...@hotmail.com

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Feb 19, 2002, 7:50:06 PM2/19/02
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PattyC wrote:
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> Well, *I* want to know what the "abuse of a corpse" consisted of.
>
> Martha, thinking Edmund Kemper
>
> He had sex with his adopted mother after he killed her. He confessed to the
> killing and the sex pretty much right off the bat.
>

Oh dear oh dear. Thanks for the information.

Around here, "abuse of a corpse" usually means driving around with it in
your car's trunk.

Martha

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