Dad, pregnant mom killed, children in home unhurt
td
Dad, pregnant mom killed, children in home unhurt
Posted: 46 minutes ago
VENTURA, Calif. - An intruder dressed in black and wearing a motorcycle
helmet barged into a Southern California beach home and stabbed a pregnant
woman and her husband to death as their two children were in other rooms,
authorities said Thursday.
The two children were not injured in the attack late Tuesday. The 9-year-old
boy ran to another part of the house after he first saw the intruder, and
later found his parents' bodies. His 11-year-old sister was asleep in
another room, authorities said.
Davina Husted, 42, was in the kitchen, the father, Brock Husted, 42, was in
a bedroom and the boy was watching television when the intruder entered the
expensive house in unincorporated Faria Beach through a sliding-glass door,
sheriff's Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
The parents' bodies were found in the back of the one-story Ventura County
home, he said. Sheriff's Capt. Bruce Norris said Davina Husted was four to
five months pregnant. No arrests have been made.
"There's no answers as to why this happened," said Scott Husted, Brock's
brother. "It's a horrible situation and there's a killer out there that
killed a man and his wife - his pregnant wife - with two small children in
the home."
Investigators believe the killer was not known to the family, Bonfiglio
said. A beach camping area is located just west of the home.
Authorities believe the killer saw Davina Husted first and attacked her.
They initially thought the boy saw the attack, but sheriff's Sgt. Dave
Murray later said the child ran into another room and didn't witness the
killings, but did find the bodies.
The boy and his older sister then ran out of the house and told a neighbor
about the attack, Murray said.
Family friend Robyn Asdel said Brock Husted was a family man, while his wife
was involved in her children's school activities and was excited about the
coming birth of their baby.
"She was a great role model to her children and all of our kids," Asdel
said. "They will both be missed."
The well-manicured beach-front home sits along a narrow stretch of U.S.
Highway 101 about 80 miles northwest of Los Angeles.
http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/5194510/
td
Couple stabbed to death in Faria Beach home
By Adam Foxman Thursday, May 21, 2009
An intruder fatally stabbed a man and his pregnant wife in their Faria Beach
home, and authorities Thursday were still searching for the attacker and
trying to determine what motivated the killings that shattered the quiet
waterfront community northwest of Ventura.
Brock and Davina Husted, both 42, were killed about 10:30 p.m. Wednesday in
their home in the 4200 block of Faria Road, authorities said.
Davina Husted was in the kitchen and her 9-year-old son was watching
"American Idol" in the living room when a man wearing a motorcycle helmet
came in through the open French door that faces the beach, sheriff's
spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
The intruder confronted Davina, and Brock Husted came out of the master
bedroom, authorities said. The man stabbed both of them multiple times in
their upper bodies before leaving the home the same way he entered,
authorities said.
The home's patio faces a narrow, rocky beach. A short flight of stairs leads
down from the patio through a 6-foot seawall onto the sand. A public
campground is located several hundred yards away.
The Husteds were found dead in a room near the front of the house, Bonfiglio
said. Relatives told authorities Davina was at least five months pregnant.
The Husteds' son saw the initial confrontation, authorities said. His
11-year-old sister was asleep in a bedroom. Neither child was injured.
After seeing his parents dead, the boy hid briefly with his sister,
Bonfiglio said. The children then went next door and notified a neighbor,
who called 911. The children were staying with relatives on Thursday,
authorities said.
Sheriff's deputies and a helicopter scoured the area but did not find the
killer, authorities said. Ventura police, California Highway Patrol officers
and bloodhounds from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department assisted
with the search.
Investigators questioned many people and detained one person, but no one had
been arrested for the killings as of late Thursday.
"There's been no one we've been able to connect directly to this incident,"
Bonfiglio said.
Bonfiglio said the killer was wearing a black motorcycle helmet and possibly
a dark jumpsuit.
Speaking to reporters at a news conference Thursday outside the home,
sheriff's Chief Deputy Dennis Carpenter said investigators found the knife
they believe was used in the killings.
Next-door neighbor Bill Stratton, 78, said he was awakened by a helicopter
about 1 or 2 a.m. His home is just a few feet from the Husteds, but he didn't
hear any "ruckus" or a motorcycle, he said.
"It's one of those things that the more you think about it, the creepier it
gets," Stratton said.
The Sheriff's Department used an automated telephone system to notify
neighbors of the attack. No one reported hearing a motorcycle, Bonfiglio
said.
Investigators on Thursday had not determined if anything of significant
value was taken from the home, and the motive for the killings remained
unknown.
Detectives had not ruled out robbery, but they had not determined if the
attack was random or the Husteds were targeted. Investigators had just begun
looking into the victims' lives to determine if anyone had a motive to
target them, Bonfiglio said.
Friends and relatives who gathered near the crime scene Thursday described
the Husteds as a loving couple who were active in local charities and had a
wide group of friends. Stratton, who uses a cane, said they had been nice to
him, bringing cupcakes over after a recent surgery and helping him whenever
he needed it.
Davina was once Miss Oxnard. Brock was the owner of a small wrought-iron
business.
"He had no enemies that I know of at all. He was just a great guy who worked
hard," said his brother, Scott Husted.
Above all, the couple loved their young children and were excited to be
welcoming another into the family, Scott said.
Friends and relatives embraced and cried as they stood near the home
Thursday. Standing outside the police tape late in the morning, Davina's
first cousin, Jason DeBoni, said he looked up to her and her husband.
"They were really good people," said DeBoni, 26, of Somis. "Everybody's just
in shock about it."
Both children attended Pierpont School in Ventura, where counselors, school
psychologists, district administrators and parents were helping students
today. Because the campus is small, everyone knows each other, said Trudy
Tuttle Arriaga, superintendent of the Ventura Unified School District.
"It's just a saddened community," Arriaga said. "We're grieving the loss of
the parents and tending to the fear and anxiety, and the sadness of the
children."
The Husteds purchased the home in 2006 for about $2.6 million, property
records show. The three-bedroom, two-bathroom property was recently listed
for sale for $3.25 million.
They planned to move to a bigger house with more space for their growing
family, relatives said.
The couple made many modifications to the home, including adding the stairs
that lead down to the beach, Stratton said. The neighborhood lies off a
private road.
"It's horrible," neighbor Bremen Schmeltz said. "It is a quiet community."
Neighbor Malinda Chouinard said someone also entered her home late Wednesday
and left a few things askew.
Detectives looked into the incident and later said it didn't appear related
to the killings, Bonfiglio said.
Carpenter said there is usually little crime in the seaside community.
"Most of the crimes that occur here are thefts from vehicles," the sheriff's
official said.
Stratton said surfers sometimes cut through residents' yards. Neighbors said
transients sometimes trespass, and one woman had a problem with a peeping
Tom.
"We have weird people all the time," Chouinard said.
Anyone with information about the crime should call the sheriff's Major
Crimes Unit at 477-7000.
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-stabbed-to-death-in-faria-beach-home/
td
"comadrejo" <comadr...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:comadrejoagua-8CA...@news.giganews.com...
> In article <QloRl.514$Xl4...@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> "td" <tinyda...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Photos at link below:
>> Couple stabbed to death in Faria Beach home
>> By Adam Foxman Thursday, May 21, 2009
>>
>>
>> An intruder fatally stabbed a man and his pregnant wife in their Faria
>> Beach
>> home, and authorities Thursday were still searching for the attacker and
>> trying to determine what motivated the killings that shattered the quiet
>> waterfront community northwest of Ventura.
>>
>>
>> aria-beach-home/
>
>
>
> It sounds like a professional hit, with the motorcycle helmet, the black
> jumpsuit, the entry, the exit. They were obviously not poor. The first
> thing I would at is any business deals gone bad that the couple were
> involved in.
What the heck kind of wrought iron 'bad business deals' could there possibly
be? Geez, both of them stabbed to death with the two young kids in the
house.
td
td
> In article <0LoRl.525$Xl4...@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> could be part of some construction business, perhaps a family business
> with some legal battles going on. It doesn't sound like a burglary
> attempt. The murderer came around 9pm, ie when both parents would be
> home, how they entered and quickly exited, and the murderer seemed to
> know what he was doing. This wasn't random.
>
> Faris Beach isn't that far away from your favourite person's (I am being
> facetious) former home at Mussel Shoals: Andrew Luster.
Yeah, I know. It certainly doesn't sound random. Just quite a brutal
couple of murders. Stabbing a pregnant woman to death in her 'torso', and
stabbing the husband to death too. Neighbors heard nothing. Actually, I
believe I read it happened around 10:30 pm., but that's neither here nor
there. Entry through an open french door.
I was thinking about the business being a cover too. They had the home on
the market, moving to a larger place, new baby and all. How much money can
a 'small wrought iron' business bring in, especially during a recession?
td
earthage
comadrejo wrote:
> In article <4mpRl.548$Xl4...@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> He did some work in Montecito, where there is money,(and lots of burnt
> out houses) but for a contractor, in 11% unemployment California and
> kind of right in the middle of the housing crash not that much, to be
> living a pretty cushy life. They also seemed to moving for a bigger
> place, which is interesting for a distinct contractor in the residential
> construction.
>
> There should be more info coming out about Brock.. This could be random
> crime, but it seems the murderer had his instructions.
>
> I think there is a reason why the murderer enter from the beach, no
> light or little, at night, evade the gated community entry points. I
> wouldn't be surprise the murder walked quite a bit on the beach before
> arriving at the Husted's house.
>
The perp would have to know which house it was from the beach since
there
would no numbers. Unlucky for the couple that the patio was open.
From the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ventura-slayings22-2009may22,0,3642542.story
A few houses up the street, Malinda Chouinard, the wife of Patagonia
founder Yvon Chouinard, said that sometime after 10 p.m., she and her
husband heard furniture being shoved around and doors in their home
opening and closing. She assumed it was a houseguest -- but later,
when helicopters were churning overhead and a reverse 911 call ordered
residents to stay inside and lock their doors, they grew worried.
"Clearly, someone was in my house," she said. Hours later, they
learned their guest had been stopped at a police blockade and did not
make it to their home until 4 a.m.
Police searched the house twice but found nothing.
earthage
Listing of the house with pictures. Looks like it would be very easy
to enter, especially with the door left open or unlocked. RV
campground not very far from house at all.
mc...@pitt.edu
>
> I was thinking about the business being a cover too. They had the home on
> the market, moving to a larger place, new baby and all. How much money can
> a 'small wrought iron' business bring in, especially during a recession?
>
A "small" business in the US, is typically up to 100 employees. Now
that could be any level of profit, fo course, but I'm guessing (there
I go again!) in the metal business the profits and salary of an owner/
CEO could easily be in the millions. I bet LE will be looking inot
every aspect of the business.
It could be some kind of smuggling. "I import Columbian wrought iron
sculptures."
It could be something like "You ageed to buy my thoroughbred (yacht,
condo, whatever) and NOW you want to back out?"
It could be hubby hiring a hit on the wife and it going wrong for him
or vice versa. From the reports, this seems unlikely. I'm guessing
(not sticking to known facts -AGAIN!) LE will be checking any
prenuptial agreements and looking into sex lives.
Gambling? Disgruntled employees?
Of course, it could be a guy dressed in black looking for a thrill -
even though it does seem too planned for that.
Mick
earthage
comadrejo wrote:
> In article
> <4f4758ba-49e5-4889...@z5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> earthage <eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The perp would have to know which house it was from the beach since
> > there
> > would no numbers. Unlucky for the couple that the patio was open.
> >
> > From the LA Times:
> > http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ventura-slayings22-2009may22,0,3642542
> > .story
>
> from the article..
>
> "On Thursday, detectives gathered evidence as waves pounded the rocks
> below the family's home. The murder weapon was still inside. Whether any
> items had been stolen was unknown."
>
> Weird.
>
> Entry point from the photo gallery...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/opsh8z
>
> On Ms. Chouinard's statment
>
> > A few houses up the street, Malinda Chouinard, the wife of Patagonia
> > founder Yvon Chouinard, said that sometime after 10 p.m., she and her
> > husband heard furniture being shoved around and doors in their home
> > opening and closing. She assumed it was a houseguest.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ojlhhm
>
> "Neighbor Malinda Chouinard said someone also entered her home late
> Wednesday and left a few things askew.
> Detectives looked into the incident and later said it didn�t appear
> related to the killings, Bonfiglio said."
>
> So 10:30pm, walk some way down a bit down the beach, (I don't know the
> tide charts, but if the surf was coming in, it wouldn't be fun)
> immediately comes and starts stabbing the wife kills her, then kills
> husband. drops knife. Leaves quickly.
>
> It wasn't very professional, and sounds a bit of rage killing especially
> to Davina, however at this stage anything is possible. The helmet etc.
> could be more to disguise from cctv, (from surrounding houses, if there
> were any) or for his approach.
Houses are very close together. See aerial view at link. Although a
gated
community, doesn't look difficult to gain entry to it. One article
said surfers often would go through yards to get to ocean. Probably
parked on HW1.
Look at similar listings of houses, several in the area, for sale.
The one across the street from the Husted home, was also put on the
market in April. It's not on the ocean, and the price was dropped
$100k the day of the murder. Another home for sale is on the ocean
and just a few doors down, closer to the RV camp. I doubt the Husteds
would have gotten what they wanted, but now because of the murders the
house will probably go for a lot less.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Ventura/4250-Faria-Rd-93001/home/4379037
td
"earthage" <eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Detectives looked into the incident and later said it didn?t appear
> related to the killings, Bonfiglio said."
>
> So 10:30pm, walk some way down a bit down the beach, (I don't know the
> tide charts, but if the surf was coming in, it wouldn't be fun)
> immediately comes and starts stabbing the wife kills her, then kills
> husband. drops knife. Leaves quickly.
>
> It wasn't very professional, and sounds a bit of rage killing especially
> to Davina, however at this stage anything is possible. The helmet etc.
> could be more to disguise from cctv, (from surrounding houses, if there
> were any) or for his approach.
Houses are very close together. See aerial view at link. Although a
gated
community, doesn't look difficult to gain entry to it. One article
said surfers often would go through yards to get to ocean. Probably
parked on HW1.
Look at similar listings of houses, several in the area, for sale.
The one across the street from the Husted home, was also put on the
market in April. It's not on the ocean, and the price was dropped
$100k the day of the murder. Another home for sale is on the ocean
and just a few doors down, closer to the RV camp. I doubt the Husteds
would have gotten what they wanted, but now because of the murders the
house will probably go for a lot less.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Ventura/4250-Faria-Rd-93001/home/4379037
----------------------------------------
Thanks for the link. Didn't realize the home was that close to the highway.
If the neighbors are to be believed, that someone was inside their homes
that same night, this could be as simple as a burglary gone very wrong. No
one confronted him in the other houses, so no one got hurt. In this house,
the mother was in the kitchen when he came in.
Could also be an incidence of mistaken identity. It was someone else this
guy was after. Must be hard to tell which house is which from the sea side.
Or it could be as first assumed, not random, a hit due to some unknown
reason.
td
earthage
> Photos at link below:
> Couple stabbed to death in Faria Beach home
> By Adam Foxman Thursday, May 21, 2009
>
>
> An intruder fatally stabbed a man and his pregnant wife in their Faria Beach
> home, and authorities Thursday were still searching for the attacker and
> trying to determine what motivated the killings that shattered the quiet
> waterfront community northwest of Ventura.
>
> Brock and Davina Husted, both 42, were killed about 10:30 p.m. Wednesday in
> their home in the 4200 block of Faria Road, authorities said.
>
> Davina Husted was in the kitchen and her 9-year-old son was watching
> "American Idol" in the living room when a man wearing a motorcycle helmet
> came in through the open French door that faces the beach, sheriff's
> spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
>
I was switching channels when "American Idol" was on, and remember
looking at the bottom guide to see what time it ended and it said
10:07 pm, I guess it could have ended later in other places.
Poe
Maybe it was buffered up in a recording and watched a bit later. We do
that all the time to avoid commercials.
td
It ended at 10:07 east coast time. At least that's when it was time slotted
to end. But then, I didn't actually look at the clock to see if it did end
at that time or run over. I wasn't sure exactly what time it aired west
coast time. Didn't know if it started at 8:00 pacific time or 9:00 pacific
time.
td
earthage
Would he have gone into the house if the lights were on? Maybe from
the ocean,
one can't see if the kitchen or bedroom lights are on. Also would
need a vehicle
nearby if it was a burglary to get the items out of the house, unless
after small valuable
items like jewelry or money.
>
> Could also be an incidence of mistaken identity. It was someone else this
> guy was after. Must be hard to tell which house is which from the sea side.
If one came from the ocean side, one would have to know the house
already or
count the houses. Since it was for sale, there were pictures of the
ocean side
entryway on the web.
earthage
m...@pitt.edu wrote:
> On May 22, 12:03 am, "td" <tinydancer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking about the business being a cover too. They had the home on
> > the market, moving to a larger place, new baby and all. How much money can
> > a 'small wrought iron' business bring in, especially during a recession?
> >
>
>
> A "small" business in the US, is typically up to 100 employees. Now
> that could be any level of profit, fo course, but I'm guessing (there
> I go again!) in the metal business the profits and salary of an owner/
> CEO could easily be in the millions. I bet LE will be looking inot
> every aspect of the business.
More about the couple and the business here in the Ventura County
Star:
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-remembered-as-lively-and-loving/
Brock Husted learned the wrought iron trade and eventually bought
Couture Concepts in Santa Barbara. Over the years, his big, ornate
creations landed him jobs with such people as Oprah Winfrey, Suzanne
Somers and Mel Gibson, who had him do work at his church, said White.
He was into hunting, fishing, abalone diving and anything else that
made for a good yarn, said Dufau.
“I think he did a lot of things he did just so he would have a good
story to tell,” he said. “He liked living a good story.”
td
As to going in if the lights were on, often times in the evening, we just
have the light given off by the TV. Wonder if lights were on in the home or
not. I will often go into the kitchen for a bottle of water or soft drink,
and not turn on any lights. I know my way around, and the light from the TV
is enough to see just walking to the fridge.
Remember that burglar some time back, who burglarized homes and apartments
of wealthy often times while they were inside the residence? As you said,
could have been looking for small items, jewelry, money, coins, etc.
td
td
story to tell,� he said. �He liked living a good story.�
----------------------------
So the wealthy clients account for his business, wouldn't have been effected
by the recession. That explains that anyway.
Certainly don't appear to have any low-life involvement on the surface. Nor
any *family* owned business squabbles like that U-Haul murder/s.
td
earthage
Here in the Ventura County Star it says the son was in the living room
watching TV. Isn't the room accessed from the ocean side the living
room? Sounds like the kitchen is towards the front of the house.
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-stabbed-to-death-in-faria-beach-home/
Davina Husted was in the kitchen and her 9-year-old son was watching
“American Idol” in the living room when a man wearing a motorcycle
helmet came in through the open French doors facing the beach,
sheriff’s spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
The intruder confronted Davina, and Brock Husted came out of the
master bedroom, authorities said. The man stabbed both of them
multiple times in their upper bodies before leaving the home the same
way he entered, authorities said.
The home’s patio faces a narrow, rocky beach. A short flight of stairs
leads down from the patio through a 6-foot seawall onto the sand. A
public campground is located several hundred yards away.
The Husteds were found dead in a room near the front of the house,
Bonfiglio said. Relatives told authorities Davina was at least five
months pregnant.
>
> Remember that burglar some time back, who burglarized homes and apartments
> of wealthy often times while they were inside the residence? As you said,
> could have been looking for small items, jewelry, money, coins, etc.
Wouldn't it be much later in the night, plenty of people stay awake
past 11:00 pm
to watch the news. It seems like if you burglarize a house with
people home, it would be after midnight when occupants are more likely
to be in bed asleep.
>
> td
earthage
comadrejo wrote:
> In article
> <3477f15d-f37b-4dc8...@n19g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> mc...@pitt.edu wrote:
>
> > On May 22, 12:03�am, "td" <tinydancer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was thinking about the business being a cover too. �They had the home on
> > > the market, moving to a larger place, new baby and all. �How much money can
> > > a 'small wrought iron' business bring in, especially during a recession?
> > >
> >
> >
> > A "small" business in the US, is typically up to 100 employees. Now
> > that could be any level of profit, fo course, but I'm guessing (there
> > I go again!) in the metal business the profits and salary of an owner/
> > CEO could easily be in the millions. I bet LE will be looking inot
> > every aspect of the business.
>
> It sounds like he either was a wholesaler to construction contractors,
> or did actual contract work for home construction, for example
> ornamental work or gate work.. Many Adobe houses or Spanish Style house
> will have elaborate ironworks.. he may have gotten steady work in Santa
> Barbara and it tony of toniest sister city: Montecito, but Coastal
> California was hit very hard by the Credit Crisis, and before that the
> Sub Prime Loan imbroglio. The Real Estate prices that haven't been hit
> as hard are those in less isolated areas.
>
> This is Brock Husted's company...
>
> Couture Concepts
>
> http://california.kudzu.com/merchant/7575633.html
>
>
> >
> > It could be some kind of smuggling. "I import Columbian wrought iron
> > sculptures."
>
> It could be many things.
> >
> > It could be something like "You ageed to buy my thoroughbred (yacht,
> > condo, whatever) and NOW you want to back out?"
>
> It could be more like what is going on with Lenny Dykstra
>
> http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4084962
> >
> > It could be hubby hiring a hit on the wife and it going wrong for him
> > or vice versa. From the reports, this seems unlikely. I'm guessing
> > (not sticking to known facts -AGAIN!) LE will be checking any
> > prenuptial agreements and looking into sex lives.
>
> I have read of a case in Orange County, CA, where the husband put a hit
> on his wife, but the hitman decided to kill both.
> >
I remember that one, happened I think in 1999. The couple were
stopped on a road and the perp first gunned down the wife (I think she
was a doctor, an eye doctor), and then shot the husband. IIRC the
gunman was a friend of the girlfriend of the husband and she was also
involved and sent to prison for her part which she denied.
> > Gambling? Disgruntled employees?
>
> He enjoyed the good life, he had Laker Season tickets, which aren't
> cheap, and it seems they were looking for a bigger house, they don't
> seemed to be economizing.
> >
That house was location location location. Not very big for a multi-
million dollar house, but a spectacular view. I don't think many of
the houses right on the beach in Malibu are too big either. The
couple might have been looking for a larger house of the same price
but not on or right near the ocean.
> > Of course, it could be a guy dressed in black looking for a thrill -
> > even though it does seem too planned for that.
>
> It could be random, but I think these murders were pretty intentional.
earthage
comadrejo wrote:
> In article
> <4f4758ba-49e5-4889...@z5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> earthage <eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The perp would have to know which house it was from the beach since
> > there
> > would no numbers. Unlucky for the couple that the patio was open.
> >
> > From the LA Times:
> > http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ventura-slayings22-2009may22,0,3642542
> > .story
>
> from the article..
>
> "On Thursday, detectives gathered evidence as waves pounded the rocks
> below the family's home. The murder weapon was still inside. Whether any
> items had been stolen was unknown."
>
> Weird.
>
> Entry point from the photo gallery...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/opsh8z
>
> On Ms. Chouinard's statment
>
> > A few houses up the street, Malinda Chouinard, the wife of Patagonia
> > founder Yvon Chouinard, said that sometime after 10 p.m., she and her
> > husband heard furniture being shoved around and doors in their home
> > opening and closing. She assumed it was a houseguest.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ojlhhm
>
> "Neighbor Malinda Chouinard said someone also entered her home late
> Wednesday and left a few things askew.
> Detectives looked into the incident and later said it didn�t appear
> related to the killings, Bonfiglio said."
>
> So 10:30pm, walk some way down a bit down the beach, (I don't know the
> tide charts, but if the surf was coming in, it wouldn't be fun)
> immediately comes and starts stabbing the wife kills her, then kills
> husband. drops knife. Leaves quickly.
>
> It wasn't very professional, and sounds a bit of rage killing especially
> to Davina, however at this stage anything is possible. The helmet etc.
> could be more to disguise from cctv, (from surrounding houses, if there
> were any) or for his approach.
The knife was left behind, was it brought with the perp or taken from
the Husted's kitchen?
Also the perp could have entered from the other house that heard
noises and gotten to the beach that way. Or perp went to their house
afterwards and got to the street through their house. It's only a few
houses away to the south.
Maybe the perp had on a wetsuit and a surfer's helmet. Or maybe a
cycling outfit.
earthage
Here is a virtual tour of the house. Kitchen is directly next to
living room. The perp walked right in and to the kitchen, and the
little boy was right there in the living room. At first I thought
that ocean view room might be the family room with a living room
towards the front of the house, but I see no mention of a family
room. The couple were found in a room towards the front of the house
so the wife must have run from the kitchen before or after being
stabbed.
http://media.homestore.com/HARCN858-2-VIRTUAL_TOUR.htm?
http://www.garygoldberg.net/listingDetail.asp?action=show&id=9
It's a beautiful area. Other pictures of Faria Beach.
http://www.lotsafunmaps.com/details.php?locationid=316
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25236440@N00/2966496146/
High tide at another part of Faria Beach
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/greenspace/2008/08/california-coas.html
td
http://media.homestore.com/HARCN858-2-VIRTUAL_TOUR.htm?
I guess I missed it, can you see where the TV is? I didn't see one. Didn't
know how to zoom in, so maybe it's there, but I didn't see one in the usual
places.
td
td
http://media.homestore.com/HARCN858-2-VIRTUAL_TOUR.htm?
http://www.garygoldberg.net/listingDetail.asp?action=show&id=9
I keep looking for a sq. footage of the home, can't see any on the listing.
Seems rather small. The bedrooms looked really small, especially the second
one. The third is listed as bedroom or office, which usually means that one
is even smaller. The setting is gorgeous, but the house itself appears
small and without any privacy on either side from the neighbors.
td
earthage
1681 sq feet. The one across the street is for sale,1875 sq feet for
$2.495 million,
and another one a few houses away, 1700 sq feet for $2.950 million.
earthage
I looked for it too and thought I had seen it in another picture.
Look, one
of these must be for staging or from the previous owners. Totally
different.
One hardly has any furniture.
http://www.garygoldberg.net/images/4250FariaLR.jpg
http://www.phototoursidx.com/sb/images/20090408161624544758000000_3.jpg
td
> > ?American Idol? in the living room when a man wearing a motorcycle
> > helmet came in through the open French doors facing the beach,
> > sheriff?s spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
> >
> > The intruder confronted Davina, and Brock Husted came out of the
> > master bedroom, authorities said. The man stabbed both of them
> > multiple times in their upper bodies before leaving the home the same
> > way he entered, authorities said.
> >
> > The home?s patio faces a narrow, rocky beach. A short flight of stairs
http://www.garygoldberg.net/images/4250FariaLR.jpg
I'd guess this first one must be the current, cause it matches the virtual
tour shots. In the still photo, I thought at first the TV was above the
fireplace, but on the virtual tour, that looks like a print or painting, not
a TV. Our house has the niche above the fireplace, sized for a flat screen,
so that's why I thought perhaps the TV was there.
td
http://www.phototoursidx.com/sb/images/20090408161624544758000000_3.jpg
td
> > ?American Idol? in the living room when a man wearing a motorcycle
> > helmet came in through the open French doors facing the beach,
> > sheriff?s spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
> >
> > The intruder confronted Davina, and Brock Husted came out of the
> > master bedroom, authorities said. The man stabbed both of them
> > multiple times in their upper bodies before leaving the home the same
> > way he entered, authorities said.
> >
> > The home?s patio faces a narrow, rocky beach. A short flight of stairs
---------------------------------
Geez, that's a small house. Not to mention the price! The view is
gorgeous, especially the high tide shot. But I don't know that I could live
squeezed in like that, between the homes on either side. I can see where
they wanted to move to something bigger. Two kids already, with no place
much to play. Not much privacy in that house either. It's amazing the
neighbors didn't hear anything.
td
earthage
I'm not sure. The virtual tour of the ocean view doesn't have the
steps to the
ocean that were put in the last few years. Comadrejo posted a picture
from
the LA Times with the steps.
Outdoor furniture is also different from Virtual tour furniture, but
like the other picture
of the ocean view.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-faria-beach-pictures,0,7227682.photogallery?index=5
http://www.phototoursidx.com/sb/images/20090408161624544758000000_1.jpg
Virtual tour
http://media.homestore.com/HARCN858-4-VIRTUAL_TOUR.htm?
SoCally
>
> Brock Husted learned the wrought iron trade and eventually bought
> Couture Concepts in Santa Barbara. Over the years, his big, ornate
> creations landed him jobs with such people as Oprah Winfrey, Suzanne
> Somers and Mel Gibson, who had him do work at his church, said White.
>
> He was into hunting, fishing, abalone diving and anything else that
> made for a good yarn, said Dufau.
>
> “I think he did a lot of things he did just so he would have a good
> story to tell,” he said. “He liked living a good story.”
I thought I heard on the news that they had some connection to a
"small publishing company" but I might have misheard the news.
This story really gives me the creeps. I'm hearing weird noises
outside too so I'm getting paranoid as well! I live at the beach too
and there are definitely some weird people who wander here.
I feel so bad for the kids. I agree that it doesn't seem random at
all. If someone was killing for the "joy" of killing, wouldn't they
kill everyone in the house? People like that have no problem killing
children.
I don't think the RV park is significant. It would be for robberies,
but nothing like this. The break-in down the street might have been a
clue that they were targeted. Maybe the killer saw he was in the wrong
house by looking at photos hanging on the wall or something.
Poe
>> More about the couple and the business here in the Ventura County
>> Star:http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-remembered-a...
>>
>> Brock Husted learned the wrought iron trade and eventually bought
>> Couture Concepts in Santa Barbara. Over the years, his big, ornate
>> creations landed him jobs with such people as Oprah Winfrey, Suzanne
>> Somers and Mel Gibson, who had him do work at his church, said White.
>>
>> He was into hunting, fishing, abalone diving and anything else that
>> made for a good yarn, said Dufau.
>>
>> story to tell,� he said. �He liked living a good story.�
>
>
> I thought I heard on the news that they had some connection to a
> "small publishing company" but I might have misheard the news.
>
> This story really gives me the creeps. I'm hearing weird noises
> outside too so I'm getting paranoid as well! I live at the beach too
> and there are definitely some weird people who wander here.
>
> I feel so bad for the kids. I agree that it doesn't seem random at
> all. If someone was killing for the "joy" of killing, wouldn't they
> kill everyone in the house? People like that have no problem killing
> children.
>
> I don't think the RV park is significant. It would be for robberies,
> but nothing like this. The break-in down the street might have been a
> clue that they were targeted. Maybe the killer saw he was in the wrong
> house by looking at photos hanging on the wall or something.
That's what it sounds like to me - they got into the wrong house,
realized it by seeing mail on a table or whatever, and then went back
out for the real target.
td
Well that's pretty confusing, isn't it? One would think a virtual tour
would be up to date footage. that's why clients are looking at homes, to
see exactly what they look like and *if* they want to make the effort to
book a visit, attend a showing. How long has the house been on the market,
I wonder? the reality add did mention all those various updates the owners
have made. One would think virtual tours and still shots would attempt to
show those updates in the best possible way. So what do you think?
td
Chocolic
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>
>
> Well that's pretty confusing, isn't it? One would think a virtual tour
> would be up to date footage. that's why clients are looking at homes, to
> see exactly what they look like and *if* they want to make the effort to
> book a visit, attend a showing. How long has the house been on the
> market, I wonder? the reality add did mention all those various updates
> the owners have made. One would think virtual tours and still shots would
> attempt to show those updates in the best possible way. So what do you
> think?
>
>
> td
WTF is a "reality add".
Chocolic
JonesieCat
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Realty advertisement?
jc
JonesieCat
comadrejo wrote:
> In article
> <3477f15d-f37b-4dc8...@n19g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> mc...@pitt.edu wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I was thinking about the business being a cover too. ?They had the
> > > home on
> > > the market, moving to a larger place, new baby and all. ?How much
====
Glad I waited to reply - I also remember this one. When the bodies were
found, the car was still running IIRC. Was it... Ortega highway? hmmm? not
sure. But I do recall the husb hired the hit and then got hit himself.
jc
JonesieCat
"Poe" <hau...@terrible-thought.com> wrote in message
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> SoCally wrote:
>>> More about the couple and the business here in the Ventura County
>>> Star:http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-remembered-a...
>>>
>>> Brock Husted learned the wrought iron trade and eventually bought
>>> Couture Concepts in Santa Barbara. Over the years, his big, ornate
>>> creations landed him jobs with such people as Oprah Winfrey, Suzanne
>>> Somers and Mel Gibson, who had him do work at his church, said White.
>>>
>>> He was into hunting, fishing, abalone diving and anything else that
>>> made for a good yarn, said Dufau.
>>>
>>> story to tell,� he said. �He liked living a good story.�
>>
>>
>> I thought I heard on the news that they had some connection to a
>> "small publishing company" but I might have misheard the news.
>>
>> This story really gives me the creeps. I'm hearing weird noises
>> outside too so I'm getting paranoid as well! I live at the beach too
>> and there are definitely some weird people who wander here.
>>
>> I feel so bad for the kids. I agree that it doesn't seem random at
>> all. If someone was killing for the "joy" of killing, wouldn't they
>> kill everyone in the house? People like that have no problem killing
>> children.
>>
>> I don't think the RV park is significant. It would be for robberies,
>> but nothing like this. The break-in down the street might have been a
>> clue that they were targeted. Maybe the killer saw he was in the wrong
>> house by looking at photos hanging on the wall or something.
>
>
> That's what it sounds like to me - they got into the wrong house, realized
> it by seeing mail on a table or whatever, and then went back out for the
> real target.
How in the hell did they find the real house then? I mean, if they got it
THAT wrong in the first place, how well planned a hit was it and how did
they ever get it right?? Following that rationale, perhaps the wrong people
got killed?? Creeeeeepy.
jc
Poe
> "Poe" <hau...@terrible-thought.com> wrote in message
> news:77qb6cF...@mid.individual.net...
>> SoCally wrote:
>>>> More about the couple and the business here in the Ventura County
>>>> Star:http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-remembered-a...
>>>>
>>>> Brock Husted learned the wrought iron trade and eventually bought
>>>> Couture Concepts in Santa Barbara. Over the years, his big, ornate
>>>> creations landed him jobs with such people as Oprah Winfrey, Suzanne
>>>> Somers and Mel Gibson, who had him do work at his church, said White.
>>>>
>>>> He was into hunting, fishing, abalone diving and anything else that
>>>> made for a good yarn, said Dufau.
>>>>
>>>> story to tell,� he said. �He liked living a good story.�
>>>
>>> I thought I heard on the news that they had some connection to a
>>> "small publishing company" but I might have misheard the news.
>>>
>>> This story really gives me the creeps. I'm hearing weird noises
>>> outside too so I'm getting paranoid as well! I live at the beach too
>>> and there are definitely some weird people who wander here.
>>>
>>> I feel so bad for the kids. I agree that it doesn't seem random at
>>> all. If someone was killing for the "joy" of killing, wouldn't they
>>> kill everyone in the house? People like that have no problem killing
>>> children.
>>>
>>> I don't think the RV park is significant. It would be for robberies,
>>> but nothing like this. The break-in down the street might have been a
>>> clue that they were targeted. Maybe the killer saw he was in the wrong
>>> house by looking at photos hanging on the wall or something.
>>
>> That's what it sounds like to me - they got into the wrong house, realized
>> it by seeing mail on a table or whatever, and then went back out for the
>> real target.
>
> How in the hell did they find the real house then? I mean, if they got it
> THAT wrong in the first place, how well planned a hit was it and how did
> they ever get it right?? Following that rationale, perhaps the wrong people
> got killed?? Creeeeeepy.
>
> jc
>
Actually I was thinking that, too (that maybe the wrong people got
killed), but I don't believe that is the case, since he did end up
killing these two. I assume the perp knew what they looked like.
Maybe the had a picture of the house from the back, and the first house
resembled it, or something like that. I remember once when I was very
young a bf of mine left his house open so I could break into it while he
was out with his parents. I got into the wrong house first, and realized
only after seeing mail (my goal at the time was to steal food, which I
later learned his mom purchased extra because she was on to us stealing
it, tho we thought we were so slick!). Idk how I finally figured out
the correct house, but the wrong house theory seems plausible to me,
based on my experience :-)
earthage
Here's the latest from the Ventura County Star:
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/22/faria-beach-campers-on-edge-near-scene-of/
The beach park was at capacity Friday morning. There were about 50 RV
owners staying through the Memorial Day weekend. The park is closed to
visitors at night, Cullum said.
Campers were talking Friday about a man carrying an object that looked
like a motorcycle helmet who walked through the camp Wednesday night,
before anyone knew what had happened.
“The whole thing just creeps me out,” DePry said. “To think this guy
was here, walking through our campground is sickening.”
Police did not confirm the suspect used the camp as an escape route.
SoCally
> Seems rather small. The bedrooms looked really small, especially the second
> one. The third is listed as bedroom or office, which usually means that one
> is even smaller. The setting is gorgeous, but the house itself appears
> small and without any privacy on either side from the neighbors.
It was 1600-something square feet. It's listed in one of the posts
someone shared.
I was surprised it was so small considering the price.
SoCally
> Here's the latest from theVenturaCounty Star:http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/22/faria-beach-campers...
>
> The beach park was at capacity Friday morning. There were about 50 RV
> owners staying through the Memorial Day weekend. The park is closed to
> visitors at night, Cullum said.
>
> Campers were talking Friday about a man carrying an object that looked
> like a motorcycle helmet who walked through the camp Wednesday night,
> before anyone knew what had happened.
>
> “The whole thing just creeps me out,” DePry said. “To think this guy
> was here, walking through our campground is sickening.”
>
> Police did not confirm the suspect used the camp as an escape route.
That's odd. Why would he purposely go through a place were dozens and
dozens of people could see him and be potential witnesses.
Another thing about the helmet and clothing description, this is
coming from the 9 year old and kids sometimes label things wrong. It
seems slightly odd to me that he'd wear a helmet because they do tend
to block some sound. Wouldn't he want to hear every single noise if
he's planning on committing a crime like this?
SoCally
Davina probably got a lot of attention from men. Another theory, maybe
it was a stalker/obsessed type.
earthage
comadrejo wrote:
> In article
> <7a22b1e6-55cf-44ed...@n21g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> earthage <eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > One article
> > said surfers often would go through yards to get to ocean. Probably
> > parked on HW1.
>
>
> Surfers do this everywhere in California. Access to the beach can be
> constricted. While the Beach itself is public. I can see why surfers
> like that particular area, because it is a point and when a storm from
> the south hits, lot of good waves. The Faria County Park beach and its
> long sand bar, not the best place to surf compare to the area around the
> Crime Scene.
>
> The Campground next to the Residential Area looks like an RV park, where
> the RVers have to get reservations. The County Park north of RV park has
> camping, but I am guessing one needs a reservation for that as well.
>
> In some ways it would be easier to enter the beach from the south.
>
> If you notice from the satellite photo, the tide cuts off certain
> parts of the beach, depending on the time of the day. The Pacific ocean
> has four tides, High High Tide, Low High Tide, High Low Tide, and Low
> Low Tide. So a tide table for which tide at 10:30pm for May 20th, 2009,
> can tell how easy or difficult it was to get on the beach from the north
> or south.
>
> Whether it is an attempted robbery or the motive was murder, the
> culprit has to know when there was enough beach to approach.
Here's from the comments from the site True Crime Report:
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/05/mystery_in_a_multi-million_dol.php
JR said:
The house is immediately on the beach. It appears that the water comes
right up to the back patio at high tide. The murderer mounted the
steps from the beach and came in through the patio. The murders
occurred around 10:30 pm, which I think (if I interpreted tide tables
correctly) was about 2-3 hours after high tide, and therefore not a
good time to be walking along the beach.
Virtual Earth view of home
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?cp=34.317841~-119.388596&style=b&dir=0&sp=Point.34.317841_-119.388596
Pan over to your left and one can see how close the RV camp is.
JonesieCat
> JonesieCat wrote:
>> "Poe" <hau...@terrible-thought.com> wrote in message
>> news:77qb6cF...@mid.individual.net...
>>> SoCally wrote:
>>>>> More about the couple and the business here in the Ventura County
>>>>> Star:http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-remembered-a...
>>>>>
>>>>> Brock Husted learned the wrought iron trade and eventually bought
>>>>> Couture Concepts in Santa Barbara. Over the years, his big, ornate
>>>>> creations landed him jobs with such people as Oprah Winfrey, Suzanne
>>>>> Somers and Mel Gibson, who had him do work at his church, said White.
>>>>>
>>>>> He was into hunting, fishing, abalone diving and anything else that
>>>>> made for a good yarn, said Dufau.
>>>>>
>>>>> story to tell,� he said. �He liked living a good story.�
Ahhh. I didn't realize it was the voice of experience talking. ;)
jc
td
"comadrejo" <comadr...@mac.com> wrote in message
news:comadrejoagua-323...@news.giganews.com...
> In article
> <e25d86bd-cea1-459d...@n7g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> earthage <eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> . The murderer mounted the
>> steps from the beach and came in through the patio. The murders
>> occurred around 10:30 pm, which I think (if I interpreted tide tables
>> correctly) was about 2-3 hours after high tide, and therefore not a
>> good time to be walking along the beach.
>>
>> Virtual Earth view of home
>> http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?cp=34.317841~-119.388596&style=b&dir=0&sp=Po
>> int.34.317841_-119.388596
>>
>> Pan over to your left and one can see how close the RV camp is.
>
> meters, low low tide for May 21st was around 2:16am at .10 ft/30mm, so
> basically an 7 hour window for the tide to fall around .7 feet/.23
> meters an hour. The craziest time for high tide the hour before peak
> and the hour before the low tide. The "Slack Tide" is probably from
> 7:30 to 8:30, ie not much receding of the tide.
>
> Why the Tides matter, is how long was the murderer was loitering on
> the beach with amount of access the tide allowed to the beach. The tide
> went out for a couple hours after the murder, the Ventura PD should have
> at least the info to show his approach and exit. besides what type of
> shoes that he was wearing, even a weak speculation of the murderer's
> weight.
>
> here is a nice "drift net" article that sucks up lots of speculation..
>
> http://tinyurl.com/o4art6
>
> Tide chart for Ventura, CA for May 2009
>
> http://www.mobilegeographics.com:81/calendar/month/6754.html
It doesn't seem like many of those homes have stairs down to the sea. I
wonder if the others who said they heard someone in their home that night
also had stairs down to the ocean.
JonesieCat
A hit? But who does a hit by knife? Something about this crime reminds me of
the OJ crimes. Stabbing is so personal, and it happened so fast, as if rage
might have been involved. Wiiild speculation: Had Davina perhaps been
involved with someone and then broke it off? Instead of choosing her lover,
she chose her husband and they were having a new baby and a new house and a
new start perhaps? Which clearly said to the spurned lover that things were
well and truly over?
(I toyed with the idea that the baby was fathered by this phantom ex-lover,
but decided against it.)
jc
Poe
I was thinking the lover angle, too, as a motive. I don't think it is
business related, because in that case it'd be better to kill a loved
one (kid, wife) and leave alive someone who could cough up some cash.
What if the Davina had an affair with someone in the community - perhaps
someone from the home of the person who said they heard an intruder
that night? Not everyone reads t-c stuff all the time to know that you
shouldn't step forward in any way wrt a crime you're involved. So, say
she had an affair with either the male of female of that house. We don't
really know the perp was male, it's assumed at this point from what I
can tell. From there, what you said - they're preggers, exacerbating the
feelings of a spurned lover, at the same time making clear it is time
for them to get the hell out and try to start over. Alternatively,
perhaps a similar scenario but the husband had the affair.
Poe
> In article <77tt2pF...@mid.individual.net>,
> Poe <hau...@terrible-thought.com> wrote:
>
>> What if the Davina had an affair with someone in the community - perhaps
>> someone from the home of the person who said they heard an intruder
>> that night?
>
>
>
> Chouinard started and it is still head of Patagonia Inc., he works out
> of Ventura. He is also pretty legendary in the climbing community,
> given he revolutionized climbing equipment. He is also around 70 years
> old.
>
>
> I doubt Yvon Chouinard or anyone connected to him has anything
> connected to this besides living in the same neighborhood.
And we all know successful people never commit crimes.
Look, I am not saying they did it. I was just saying I think a failed
affair seems like a reasonable motive; that maybe it was even someone
inside that small community that would know well how to get around, not
have to work too hard at it without being seen; and that it I personally
would take a close look at anyone who seemed to have a story related to
the crime (like anyone who said, "we, too, were broken into that
night"), because it might be an attempt to mislead.
earthage
The one that reported someone in their home is 4 houses to the right
of the
Husted home. It doesn't have the concrete seawall, just rocks as
breakers.
Here's a picture of a nearby home at high tide (different picture than
what I posted earlier, this house is closer to the Husted home.
http://images.vrbo.com/vrbo/images/1ca33
And from the Ventura County Star:
One of the campers there wondered if detectives had taken into
consideration the tides. Although a spokesman from the Sheriff’s
Department had said that the intruder came up from the beach, the tide
was a 5.3 high tide about 7:30 p.m. Low tide was at just after 2 a.m.
Thursday.
At that high of a tide, there is little room to walk along the rocks,
and some say it would be very difficult to go south from the
campground and get around a tall fence and steep break wall without
going into the water.
Another aerial picture of the campground and the beach
http://1966.spuhs-reunion.org/fariahouse.jpg
Once the perp got to a patio backyard, couldn't he/she just go from
one to the next, granted of course, no one sees them.
And another unrelated picture but how popular the Southern California
beaches are, especially on a holiday weekend, although not sure what
day taken.
"RV's Parked on Pacific Coast Hwy" in Ventura County
http://www.pixelmap.com/sl_ventura_36.html
td
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Well it wouldn't make sense that he had come from the camp ground and gone
that far *past* the intended house, would it?
------------------------------------------
Here's a picture of a nearby home at high tide (different picture than
what I posted earlier, this house is closer to the Husted home.
http://images.vrbo.com/vrbo/images/1ca33
And from the Ventura County Star:
One of the campers there wondered if detectives had taken into
consideration the tides. Although a spokesman from the Sheriff�s
Department had said that the intruder came up from the beach, the tide
was a 5.3 high tide about 7:30 p.m. Low tide was at just after 2 a.m.
Thursday.
At that high of a tide, there is little room to walk along the rocks,
and some say it would be very difficult to go south from the
campground and get around a tall fence and steep break wall without
going into the water.
-------------------------------------------
I wish I knew how to enlarge those pictures. It's hard for me to see
closely. I'd read about the fence and such at the camp ground, but couldn't
get a very good look at exactly how difficult that would be.
----------------------------------------------------
Another aerial picture of the campground and the beach
http://1966.spuhs-reunion.org/fariahouse.jpg
Once the perp got to a patio backyard, couldn't he/she just go from
one to the next, granted of course, no one sees them.
-----------------------------------
Yes, I'd thought of that too. One of the reasons I commented on how close
the homes are and how they have NO privacy what so ever from each other.
It's a strange case. It would seem this was a targeted hit of some sort.
And one would think the perp would have been covered in blood and left a
trail of blood at his exit point. That had to be a bloody crime scene. In
a way, it almost reminds me a bit of that murder of the little girl in her
home. Damn, can't think of the name right now, the one where supposedly the
cops got the 12 yr. old brother to confess and implicate his friends in the
murder of his sister. Remember that one? some mentally ill homeless person
was eventually held responsible.
==========================================
And another unrelated picture but how popular the Southern California
beaches are, especially on a holiday weekend, although not sure what
day taken.
"RV's Parked on Pacific Coast Hwy" in Ventura County
http://www.pixelmap.com/sl_ventura_36.html
------------------------------------
Gosh, is it just me or does that look like a horrible way to spend ones
vacation? Packed in like sardines in a can. :((
td
SoCally
> the OJ crimes. Stabbing is so personal, and it happened so fast, as if rage
> might have been involved. Wiiild speculation: Had Davina perhaps been
> involved with someone and then broke it off? Instead of choosing her lover,
> she chose her husband and they were having a new baby and a new house and a
> new start perhaps? Which clearly said to the spurned lover that things were
> well and truly over?
>
> (I toyed with the idea that the baby was fathered by this phantom ex-lover,
> but decided against it.)
>
> jc
Yeah, I posted about this the other day. It looks like a rage killing
based on obsession not money. If it were a professional hit, why would
he kill a pregnant woman before the husband? The killer went for her
first. She was the target. A hitman would have gone for the other male
first since he's more of a physical threat.
The knife could have just been used because it's quieter. But whoever
did it must have been pretty confident that he could kill two people
with a knife and not cause a commotion that neighbors would hear. That
type of attitude is OJ-esqe.
Also if it was a business related hit, wouldn't he have killed the
kids since they will inheret any money from the business. He didn't
have a business partner so that makes a hit for business less likely.
MyNathanMyAdvNMyHeart4EVMy-NathMy1-Brother4Ev-inHeart4Ev MyHeart
> In article <0LoRl.525$Xl4....@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
>
>
>
>
>
> "td" <tinydancer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "comadrejo" <comadrejoa...@mac.com> wrote in message
> >news:comadrejoagua-8CA...@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <QloRl.514$Xl4....@bignews5.bellsouth.net>,
> > > "td" <tinydancer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Photos at link below:
> > >> Couple stabbed to death in Faria Beach home
> > >> By Adam Foxman Thursday, May 21, 2009
>
> > >> An intruder fatally stabbed a man and his pregnant wife in their Faria
> > >> Beach
> > >> home, and authorities Thursday were still searching for the attacker and
> > >> trying to determine what motivated the killings that shattered the quiet
> > >> waterfront community northwest of Ventura.
>
> > >>http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-stabbed-to-d...
> > >> n-f
> > >> aria-beach-home/
>
> > > It sounds like a professional hit, with the motorcycle helmet, the black
> > > jumpsuit, the entry, the exit. They were obviously not poor. The first
> > > thing I would at is any business deals gone bad that the couple were
> > > involved in.
>
> > What the heck kind of wrought iron 'bad business deals' could there possibly
> > be? Geez, both of them stabbed to death with the two young kids in the
> > house.
>
> The Business could be a cover for something else, I don't know. It
> could be part of some construction business, perhaps a family business
> with some legal battles going on. It doesn't sound like a burglary
> attempt. The murderer came around 9pm, ie when both parents would be
> home, how they entered and quickly exited, and the murderer seemed to
> know what he was doing. This wasn't random.
>
> Faris Beach isn't that far away from your favourite person's (I am being
> facetious) former home at Mussel Shoals: Andrew Luster.
I'm just glad he didn't hurt the children!!
MyNathanMyAdvNMyHeart4EVMy-NathMy1-Brother4Ev-inHeart4Ev MyHeart
> "comadrejo" <comadrejoa...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> couple of murders. Stabbing a pregnant woman to death in her 'torso', and
> stabbing the husband to death too. Neighbors heard nothing. Actually, I
> believe I read it happened around 10:30 pm., but that's neither here nor
> there. Entry through an open french door.
>
> I was thinking about the business being a cover too. They had the home on
> the market, moving to a larger place, new baby and all. How much money can
> a 'small wrought iron' business bring in, especially during a recession?
>
Good point I'm just glad he didn't the children I wonder why he
didn't? not that I wish he had but, you know? he didn't mine killing
an unborn baby.
Take Care,
Donnie
JonesieCat
======
I don't remember that one, but this crime reminds me too of the murders of
that American family in South America. I think they may have been LDS? The
parents were stabbed to death in their beds. IIRC they were maybe due to
return to the States, they were well-to-do, and I can't remember about the
children? They lived behind high walls... I just can't remember much more
about it, except that it was a terrible crime no one could understand.
Anyone remember that one?
jc
JonesieCat
"SoCally" <foa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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He encountered the woman before the man, so maybe that's why he had to kill
her first? He apparently didn't do it fast enough to silence her because it
caused the husb to emerge from the bedroom. Yep, rage - even drug fueled
rage. I wonder who the executor of their estate will be? and/or who will get
custody of the children? Whoever takes those roles will benefit financially.
Are you thinking that if the man hadn't come out of the bedroom, the killer
might have turned around and left after killing the woman? If she was the
target... maybe she had a stalker (if not a lover)?
jc
JonesieCat
> In article <keiSl.13429$y61....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> of her child. I am guessing the main motive would be some not paying
> some sort of child support, or the hypothetical lover was also married.
>
> Right now, anything goes on what are the motives and the culprits. I
> just think the Ventura County Sheriff Dept. should just get a pretty
> good picture on how the murderer approach and exited the crime scene and
> the area. If the Sheriff Dept can get some direct evidence from the
> crime scene, like a fingerprint or some dna evidence, I would guess that
> the murderer has a rap sheet.
Wonder if the murderer might have gotten cut himself? DNA, that'd be a good
find. It used to be said that one always leaves some of oneself and takes
away something at/from a crime scene. Not sure in this case though, with a
helmit and gloves? If he indeed stopped in the restroom at the RV grounds,
maybe they'd find something there?
jc
JonesieCat
> http://www.truecrimereport.com/dhusted.jpg
>
> Davina probably got a lot of attention from men. Another theory, maybe
> it was a stalker/obsessed type.
I just posted that! Great minds...
jc
td
"JonesieCat" <jonesi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ySKSl.13695$y61....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/reports/crowe/index.html
This was the one I was thinking of, Stephanie Crowe.
I remember the one you are speaking of though. Weren't they killed with a
sword or something?
td
JonesieCat
I remember the Crowe girl's name, but not the crime and the aftermath. So
did they eventually arrest the transient for the crime since he had her
blood on his sweatshirt?
Yeah, the SA murders, seems like it was a machete or something.
jc
SoCally
Investigators probing the killing of Davina and Brock Husted of
Ventura searched for evidence Monday in two cars belonging to the
couple, as well as at their business address in Santa Barbara, court
records show.
The search warrants issued Monday also allowed investigators to
examine a boat and two trucks.
The warrants were issued to the Ventura County Sheriff’s Department,
which is leading the investigation into the deaths of the couple.
They
were killed by an unidentified intruder at their Faria Beach home on
the night of May 20.
Detectives on Monday examined a silver Jaguar automobile at the
couple’s beachfront home as well as a maroon Mercedes Benz, the
search
warrant information shows.
They also apparently examined a 1977 Sea Ray cabin boat and went to
the couple’s business address in the 100 block of Garden Street in
Santa Barbara and searched two Chevrolet pickup trucks.
All five of the search warrants were sealed, blocking public access
to
investigators’ comments about the evidence they might expect to find
there.
All four vehicles are registered to Brock Husted, according to
records
of the state Department of Motor Vehicles.
The couple, both age 42, were stabbed to death by a man wearing a
motorcycle helmet who entered an unlocked door.
___________________________________________________________________________
__
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/30/no-headline---nxxfc...
Mourners poured into Our Lady of the Assumption Catholic Church in
Ventura on Saturday to remember Brock and Davina Husted, who were
stabbed to death May 20 at their Faria Beach home.
Relatives, friends and community members packed the church, with some
people standing along the walls. Roughly 900 people attended the
funeral service at the church where the Husteds were parishioners,
said Andrew VanConas, a church representative.
Many wiped away tears as relatives and friends recalled Brock and
Davina, both 42, as fun, hardworking people who were dedicated to
their children and each other. Davina was four to five months
pregnant, and the service included a remembrance of the couple’s
unborn child, Grant.
In his sermon, the Rev. Steve Davoren called the killings an
“unspeakable tragedy.”
“What happened to Davina and Brock and Grant is real evil,” Davoren
said. Still, he urged mourners to let go of anger and find strength
in
their faith.
A message of reassurance
“We stand here this morning in solidarity united as a family that
cannot and will not be broken by death,” he said.
Speaking directly to the Husteds’ 9-year-old son and 11-year-old
daughter, Davoren said Brock, Davina and Grant will be with them
during every step of their lives.
“You were their universe,” he told them.
Davina, known as “Vina,” grew up in Somis on her family’s farm, said
Amy Towner, a close friend who read her eulogy. Towner said as a
child, Davina was eager to adopt stray cats and dogs, and was a
constant companion of her brother, Vincent.
Davina graduated from Rio Mesa High School in Oxnard and later
finished business school in the top of her class, Towner said.
A former Miss Oxnard who was well-organized and an adept speaker,
Davina was sometimes called “steel butterfly” by friends, she said.
“She was a sharp cookie,” Towner said.
Active in many arenas
Davina worked with Brock in his wrought-iron business, Couture
Concepts in Santa Barbara and was heavily involved in charity work.
She also was a devoted wife and mother, Towner said.
A fan of vacations, Davina planned trips with her mother and
children,
took romantic getaways with her husband, and recently traveled to
Paris and Costa Rica, Towner said. She also went frequently with her
husband to Lakers games, though she was less interested in the team
than he was.
At the end of Davina’s eulogy, a trumpeter and pianist played “Mr.
Sandman.” It was her favorite song and the one Brock asked a band to
play when he proposed to her, Towner said.
The youngest of seven children, Brock Husted was “bigger than life,”
said his brother, Scott Husted.
“Anyone who knew Brock knew he got 70 years in 42 years,” Husted
said.
The 9-year-old son of Brock and Davina stood with his uncle during
the
eulogy.
To illustrate Brock’s boisterous personality, the crowd was shown a
large photograph of Brock posing with his shirt half off, eliciting
laughter.
Husted said his brother was a hardworking, fair and fun man who had a
way of making people feel good about themselves.
An invitation to fun
When Brock walked with his children to the Faria Beach campground for
breakfast burritos, Husted said, his brother often called him to
tease
him, saying the burritos were especially good that day.
“I loved those calls,” he said. “The theme was always the same: You
should be with me, and we could do something fun today.”
Husted said Brock and Davina were a great couple. “Davina was so, so
great for Brock and he for her,” Husted said as he began to cry.
Brock and Davina were killed by an intruder wearing a motorcycle
helmet who entered their beachfront home through an open back door
about 10:30 p.m. May 20, authorities said. Their children were home
at
the time but were not injured.
No one had been arrested in the case as of late Saturday.
Speaking about the killings, Husted said the case is sensitive.
“We ask for your prayers for the men and the women working this
case,”
he said.
‘Ultimate sacrifice’
Without going into detail, Husted said Brock and Davina made the
“ultimate sacrifice” so that their children might live.
“Brock and Davina’s last wishes were that their children were not
harmed,” Husted explained after the service. He declined to
elaborate.
Speaking to reporters outside the church, he praised the Sheriff’s
Department and urged people to contact investigators if they have any
tidbit of information that could help authorities find the killer.
“It is so wide open,” he said of the investigation.
The Husteds were buried Saturday afternoon at Conejo Mountain
Memorial
Park in Camarillo.
earthage
I wonder if the perp saw the boy in the living room watching TV. I
was
thinking the boy could have been lying on a couch and wasn't even seen
by the perp. The mother ran towards the front of the house and the
boy
ran to his sister's room. He didn't witness the killings, but saw the
bodies
before he and his sister ran out of the house.
SoCally
> was
> thinking the boy could have been lying on a couch and wasn't even seen
> by the perp. The mother ran towards the front of the house and the
> boy
> ran to his sister's room. He didn't witness the killings, but saw the
> bodies
> before he and his sister ran out of the house.
Did you read what Housted brother said at the funeral? How the couple
made the ultimate sacrifice to save their kids. After the service he
added that their last wishes were to save the kids. So if that's true,
there must have been a conversation with the murderer and the couple
about the kids. Which would mean he knew they were in the house.
JonesieCat
---------
I posted similar in another thread - one or both kids heard parents asking
killer to spare them. Killer knew kids were there - and killing the kids
wasn't what he was there for. After thinking about this, I'm changing my
mind, leaning toward the murder for hire theory. In those houses at the
beach, a house that very close to the water, it would be hard to hear
anything even from next door. Oceans close up are noisy. A gunshot inside a
home that close to breaking waves would not nec be heard. But that wouldn't
be something the killer would know. As close together as those
not-overly-large houses are - the knife was used for the purpose of
noiselessness. I can't get over how fast and efficient the killer was. So
like OJ when he took out Nicole and the young man who was returning her
sunglasses. I am one who believes OJ was speedy on one substance or another
at that time. Hmmm.
jc
Kris Baker
Or maybe the "ultimate sacrifice" is just funeral hyperbole.
We've all heard that kind of thing. IF it's true, they shouldn't
even be hinting at evidence in the case.
I haven't paid that much attention to this one, for some
reason. So no one's been ID'd as a suspect, and there's
no known motive, nor is there a drug connection -- and
they'd lived at the home long enough for it not to be
mistaken address?
Odd one, for sure.
Kris
JonesieCat
"Kris Baker" <paralle...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "JonesieCat" <jonesi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:oSzVl.15840$y61....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
> We've all heard that kind of thing. IF it's true, they shouldn't
> even be hinting at evidence in the case.
>
> I haven't paid that much attention to this one, for some
> reason. So no one's been ID'd as a suspect, and there's
> no known motive, nor is there a drug connection -- and
> they'd lived at the home long enough for it not to be
> mistaken address?
>
> Odd one, for sure.
>
> Kris
Early on it was reported that one of the nearby neighbors down a house or
two thought someone had been inside their place, but I think LE discounted a
connection with the murder. Now there's been another murder 8 mi away at a
house in a quiet, close neighborhood also very near the water. Not much info
on it yet, but LE's looking at it for a connection.
It's beginning to remind me a bit of the Night Stalker, except he struck in
the dead of night or early hours of the morning.
jc
earthage
When I first heard of these murders I thought of the Original Night
Stalker (ONS) since at least one of his murder sites was in Ventura
County. I also read that E! Network had a report on the Ventura
murder in early May, and the Ventura local newspaper carried a story
on it. But in the ONS murders, the female victim was usually raped.
http://m.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/03/tech-savvy-sleuths-continue-quest-for-original/
JonesieCat
I don't remember this one. I was in and out of Calif during that period. And
he was never caught, if I scanned that first page correctly? I'm saving this
to read thoroughly. Could it possibly be him doing these murders too?? BTK
came back after years of silence. So did the bike path rapist/killer in the
East. The children may have been the reason Davina wasn't raped, and we
don't yet know about Wendy.
(The one I was thinking of was R.Ramirez. Looks like he overlapped with the
ONS, time-wise. I lived in LA when he was operating. Ramirez's victims. He
never ventured too far from freeways.)
jc
earthage
I remember the Night Stalker Richard Ramirez. He also ventured up to
Northern
California a few times. I was scared to death at the time and
thinking do we live
far enough from the freeway.
The ONS would probably be in his 50s today. I guess the little boy
couldn't tell the
age of the perp but didn't he say dark or darker complected.
JonesieCat
I don't recall seeing any kind of description of the perp's skin tone. And
I'd have assumed he wore motorbike gloves? I hope this possibility has
occurred to LE.
jc
earthage
I've never seen this site before, looks interesting.
http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2009/05/beginning-of-investigative-theory.html
Excerpt:
Here is what we know of the killer: he came up the back steps from the
beach late in the evening. He was wearing a motorcycle helmet (but no
one heard a motorcycle). He was wearing a dark jumpsuit. He was dark-
complected.
================
So did the boy see his face through the motorcycle helmet? What part
of his body wasn't covered?
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> JonesieCat wrote:
> > "earthage" <earthage2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > The ONS would probably be in his 50s today. I guess the little boy
> > > couldn't tell the
> > > age of the perp but didn't he say dark or darker complected.
>
> > I don't recall seeing any kind of description of the perp's skin tone. And
> > I'd have assumed he wore motorbike gloves? I hope this possibility has
> > occurred to LE.
>
> > jc
>
> I've never seen this site before, looks interesting.http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2009/05/beginning-of-investigativ...
>
> Excerpt:
>
> Here is what we know of the killer: he came up the back steps from the
> beach late in the evening. He was wearing a motorcycle helmet (but no
> one heard a motorcycle). He was wearing a dark jumpsuit. He was dark-
> complected.
> ================
> So did the boy see his face through the motorcycle helmet? What part
> of his body wasn't covered?
Could be neck, could be hands, could be through a clear visor. Most
likely it was the neck though (or possibly wrists since I seem to
recall something about gloves somewhere).
JonesieCat
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The photo at this new link - looks like the stairs from the sand just happen
to be right in front of the murder house. One of the posters at the link
seemed to remark on this too. I hadn't realised that. So maybe more random
than I first thought?
I still don't get the dark complected thing tho.
jc
earthage
At that link a poster mentions a party that was going on at a nearby
house, which poster says was not revealed by press.
I also found this:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0906/02/ng.01.html
DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT, COVERING STORY, ON THE SCENE: Well, what
I can tell you, Nancy, it is truly one of the most horrific cases I`ve
ever covered. It`s also quite puzzling. What we know, as you just
heard, is the killer comes in wearing all black. He`s wearing a
helmet.
We know at some point the mother winds up with this man in the front
of the house, actually in the master bedroom. At some point her
husband comes into the room. And the next thing we know, you have two
people dead and the couple was found by their 9-year-old son.
snip
CLARK GOLDBAND, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Here`s the
timeline as we understand it, Nancy. The son, 9, was watching
"American Idol" at the time. It was around 10:30 at night. The
intruder comes inside the house, and he apparently, according to law
enforcement, is aware that the 9-year-old is there, ignores him, walks
into the kitchen, attacks mom.
Dad hears from somewhere else inside the ranch home, comes and
confronts the killer. That`s when both are stabbed. The 9-year-old is
scared, runs to his sister to hide. Apparently, they hear the house is
quiet, and that`s when they find the bodies.
============
It was reported that the husband came out of the bedroom and they were
found in a room at the front of the house. He may have been coming
out as she was running to that bedroom.
JonesieCat
Oh, I thought they were stabbed in the kitchen. But it was actually the
bedroom the two were found in? Maybe some confusion of which end of the
house is the front. There must be bloody footprints all over the place. The
blood covering the killer wouldn't be visible to others he may have passed,
with him dressed in black, and 10.30pm. Would make sense he wiped down in
the toilets at the campground before continuing on his way.
jc
Poppy
> "earthage" <earthage2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>
> > earthage wrote:> > > >news:9190343f-a0e1-4d24...@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...> > > > >>news:7a22b1e6-55cf-44ed...@n21g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > >> comadrejo wrote:
> > > > >> > In article
> > > > >> > <4f4758ba-49e5-4889-b390-b75a288fe...@z5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
> > > > >> > earthage <earthage2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > The perp would have to know which house it was from the beach
> > > > >> > > since
> > > > >> > > there
> > > > >> > > would no numbers. Unlucky for the couple that the patio was
> > > > >> > > open.
>
> > > > >> > > From the LA Times:
> > > > >> > >http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ventura-slayings22-2009may22,...
> > > > >> > > .story
>
> > > > >> > from the article..
>
> > > > >> > "On Thursday, detectives gathered evidence as waves pounded the
> > > > >> > rocks
> > > > >> > below the family's home. The murder weapon was still inside.
> > > > >> > Whether
> > > > >> > any
> > > > >> > items had been stolen was unknown."
>
> > > > >> > Weird.
>
> > > > >> > Entry point from the photo gallery...
>
> > > > >> >http://tinyurl.com/opsh8z
>
> > > > >> > On Ms. Chouinard's statment
>
> > > > >> > > A few houses up the street, Malinda Chouinard, the wife of
> > > > >> > > Patagonia
> > > > >> > > founder Yvon Chouinard, said that sometime after 10 p.m., she
> > > > >> > > and
> > > > >> > > her
> > > > >> > > husband heard furniture being shoved around and doors in their
> > > > >> > > home
> > > > >> > > opening and closing. She assumed it was a houseguest.
>
> > > > >> >http://tinyurl.com/ojlhhm
>
> > > > >> > "Neighbor Malinda Chouinard said someone also entered her home
> > > > >> > late
> > > > >> > Wednesday and left a few things askew.
> > > > >> > Detectives looked into the incident and later said it didn?t
> > > > >> > appear
> > > > >> > related to the killings, Bonfiglio said."
>
> > > > >> > So 10:30pm, walk some way down a bit down the beach, (I don't
> > > > >> > know
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > tide charts, but if the surf was coming in, it wouldn't be fun)
> > > > >> > immediately comes and starts stabbing the wife kills her, then
> > > > >> > kills
> > > > >> > husband. drops knife. Leaves quickly.
>
> > > > >> > It wasn't very professional, and sounds a bit of rage killing
> > > > >> > especially
> > > > >> > to Davina, however at this stage anything is possible. The
> > > > >> > helmet
> > > > >> > etc.
> > > > >> > could be more to disguise from cctv, (from surrounding houses, if
> > > > >> > there
> > > > >> > were any) or for his approach.
>
> > > > >> Houses are very close together. See aerial view at link. Although
> > > > >> a
> > > > >> gated
> > > > >> community, doesn't look difficult to gain entry to it. One article
> > > > >> said surfers often would go through yards to get to ocean. Probably
> > > > >> parked on HW1.
>
> > > > >> Look at similar listings of houses, several in the area, for sale.
> > > > >> The one across the street from the Husted home, was also put on the
> > > > >> market in April. It's not on the ocean, and the price was dropped
> > > > >> $100k the day of the murder. Another home for sale is on the ocean
> > > > >> and just a few doors down, closer to the RV camp. I doubt the
> > > > >> Husteds
> > > > >> would have gotten what they wanted, but now because of the murders
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> house will probably go for a lot less.
>
> > > > >>http://www.redfin.com/CA/Ventura/4250-Faria-Rd-93001/home/4379037
>
> > > > >> ----------------------------------------
>
> > > > >> Thanks for the link. Didn't realize the home was that close to the
> > > > >> highway.
> > > > >> If the neighbors are to be believed, that someone was inside their
> > > > >> homes
> > > > >> that same night, this could be as simple as a burglary gone very
> > > > >> wrong.
> > > > >> No
> > > > >> one confronted him in the other houses, so no one got hurt. In
> > > > >> this
> > > > >> house,
> > > > >> the mother was in the kitchen when he came in.
>
> > > > > Would he have gone into the house if the lights were on? Maybe from
> > > > > the ocean,
> > > > > one can't see if the kitchen or bedroom lights are on. Also would
> > > > > need a vehicle
> > > > > nearby if it was a burglary to get the items out of the house,
> > > > > unless
> > > > > after small valuable
> > > > > items like jewelry or money.
>
> > > > As to going in if the lights were on, often times in the evening, we
> > > > just
> > > > have the light given off by the TV. Wonder if lights were on in the
> > > > home or
> > > > not. I will often go into the kitchen for a bottle of water or soft
> > > > drink,
> > > > and not turn on any lights. I know my way around, and the light from
> > > > the TV
> > > > is enough to see just walking to the fridge.
>
> > > Here in theVenturaCounty Star it says the son was in the living room
> > > watching TV. Isn't the room accessed from the ocean side the living
> > > room? Sounds like the kitchen is towards the front of the house.
>
> > >http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/may/21/couple-stabbed-to-d...
>
> > > Davina Husted was in the kitchen and her 9-year-old son was watching
> > > ?AmericanIdol? in the living room when a man wearing a motorcycle
> > > helmet came in through the open French doors facing the beach,
> > > sheriff?s spokesman Capt. Ross Bonfiglio said.
>
> > > The intruder confronted Davina, and Brock Husted came out of the
> > > master bedroom, authorities said. The man stabbed both of them
> > > multiple times in their upper bodies before leaving the home the same
> > > way he entered, authorities said.
>
> > > The home?s patio faces a narrow, rocky beach. A short flight of stairs
> > > leads down from the patio through a 6-foot seawall onto the sand. A
> > > public campground is located several hundred yards away.
>
> > > The Husteds were found dead in a room near the front of the house,
> > > Bonfiglio said. Relatives told authorities Davina was at least five
> > > months pregnant.
>
> > Here is a virtual tour of the house. Kitchen is directly next to
> > living room. The perp walked right in and to the kitchen, and the
> > little boy was right there in the living room. At first I thought
> > that ocean view room might be the family room with a living room
> > towards the front of the house, but I see no mention of a family
> > room. The couple were found in a room towards the front of the house
> > so the wife must have run from the kitchen before or after being
> > stabbed.
>
> >http://media.homestore.com/HARCN858-2-VIRTUAL_TOUR.htm?
>
> > I guess I missed it, can you see where the TV is? I didn't see one.
> > Didn't
> > know how to zoom in, so maybe it's there, but I didn't see one in the
> > usual
> > places.
>
> > td
>
> I looked for it too and thought I had seen it in another picture.
> Look, one
> of these must be for staging or from the previous owners. Totally
> different.
> One hardly has any furniture.
>
> http://www.garygoldberg.net/images/4250FariaLR.jpg
>
> I'd guess this first one must be the current, cause it matches the virtual
> tour shots. In the still photo, I thought at first the TV was above the
> fireplace, but on the virtual tour, that looks like a print or painting, not
> a TV. Our house has the niche above the fireplace, sized for a flat screen,
> so that's why I thought perhaps the TV was there.
>
> td
>
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Any new news on this?
JonesieCat
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