JBR - Arndt interview - Thursday - Day 4
DorianA123
plenty of blame to go around here...certainly there's some for the Boulder PD
and Alex Hunter. Her interview installment on GMA today was just unbelievable.
Her version of events is that the reason for the criticism of her is due to
sexism. According to Arndy she was a "Highly competent woman in a male
profession". (Pat...can I please buy a clue?)
She had no idea that this wasn't a kidnapping until JonBenet's body was found.
She still asserts this despite her own observations all morning that things
just didn't fit and weren't right.
She defends all of her decisions, even today knowing what she does now, she
claims that she made correct decisions at the time. She claims she made no
mistakes except that she trusted the wrong people.
She insists that leading a prayer circle wasn't her bonding with Patsy but
simple courtesy. She acknowledges that JonBenet's body was a crime scene but
somehow defends that the allowed John Ramsey to cover her body with a blanket
thereby contaminating the crime scene.
She defendsher turning over a xerox copy of the ransom note on January 5th to
the Ramsey's attorneys by pointing out that they'd already read the note anyway
and had given a handwriting sample using words from the note.
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Detective Makes Ramsey Assault Claim
Full Coverage
JonBenet Ramsey Investigation
By STEVEN K. PAULSON Associated Press Writer
DENVER (AP) - JonBenet Ramsey appeared to have been repeatedly sexually
assaulted prior to the night she was killed, the first detective on the scene
said in an interview broadcast Wednesday.
Former Boulder police detective Linda Arndt also said there were serious
problems with the police investigation, including a failure to question the
parents of the 6-year-old girl immediately after her body was found.
``I don't know why a lot of things weren't done in this case,'' she said on
ABC's ``Good Morning America.''
Ms. Arndt said the girl appeared to have been repeatedly sexually assaulted
prior to the night of her death.
``What was seen was not a first-time injury,'' she said. ``Not all of her
injuries appeared to be recent.''
Boulder County Coroner John Meyer has said evidence of a sexual assault was
inconclusive.
Ms. Arndt, who resigned in March, has been criticized for her handling of the
case, especially for sending the girl's father, John Ramsey, to look for
evidence in the home.
She is suing former Boulder Police Chief Tom Koby and the city, claiming her
free-speech rights were violated when police were ordered not to discuss the
case. Police officials declined comment, citing Ms. Arndt's pending lawsuit.
Ms. Arndt's interview aired on the first anniversary of a grand jury's work on
the slaying. The 12 jurors, who last met May 25, have heard testimony from
police officers, Ramsey friends and relatives, and technicians who examined
thousands of pieces of forensic evidence.
The jury's term expires Oct. 20, and prosecutors say a new grand jury probably
will not be asked to continue the investigation.
Ms. Arndt arrived at the Ramsey home after JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey,
called police on Dec. 26, 1996, and reported discovering a ransom note for her
missing daughter.
John Ramsey searched the house at Ms. Arndt's request and found his daughter's
body in the basement. She had been beaten and strangled.
Police have said the Ramseys are under suspicion. The couple have repeatedly
said they are innocent.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cop Suspected JonBenet's Dad - (DENVER) -- The first Boulder detective to
arrive on the scene of the JonBenet Ramsey murder tells "Good Morning America"
she suspected the girl's father of being the killer moments after he brought
his daughter's body up from the basement. Linda Arndt said in her nationally
broadcast interview with A-B-C's Elizabeth Vargas that it took an extraordinary
long time for the police department to send back-up units after the
six-year-old's body was found. The grand jury investigating the three-year-old
murder case must either return an indictment by its October 20th deadline or
lose the case.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Welldunne
>Her version of events is that the reason for the criticism of her is due to
>sexism. According to Arndy she was a "Highly competent woman in a male
>profession". (Pat...can I please buy a clue?)
>She had no idea that this wasn't a kidnapping until JonBenet's body was
>found.
>She still asserts this despite her own observations all morning that things
>just didn't fit and weren't right.
>She defends all of her decisions, even today knowing what she does now, she
>claims that she made correct decisions at the time. She claims she made no
>mistakes except that she trusted the wrong people.
>She insists that leading a prayer circle wasn't her bonding with Patsy but
>simple courtesy. She acknowledges that JonBenet's body was a crime scene but
>somehow defends that the allowed John Ramsey to cover her body with a blanket
>thereby contaminating the crime scene.
>She defendsher turning over a xerox copy of the ransom note on January 5th to
>the Ramsey's attorneys by pointing out that they'd already read the note
>anyway
>and had given a handwriting sample using words from the note.
>
Her defense mechanisms do appear to be in top-notch operating condition.
And today she took a page from Patsy's Big Book o' Dramatic Gestures with that
odd out-of-sync head-shaking during her answers.
The "poor, poor pitiful me" attitude undercuts her credibility.
Real professionals don't whine.
Maggie
>Sorry to say this but Linda Arndt is a complete incompetent. Granted, there's
>plenty of blame to go around here...certainly there's some for the Boulder
>PD
>Her version of events is that the reason for the criticism of her is due
>to
>sexism. According to Arndy she was a "Highly competent woman in a male
>profession". (Pat...can I please buy a clue?)
>She had no idea that this wasn't a kidnapping until JonBenet's body was
>found.
>She still asserts this despite her own observations all morning that things
>just didn't fit and weren't right.
>She defends all of her decisions, even today knowing what she does now,
>she
>claims that she made correct decisions at the time. She claims she made
>no
>mistakes except that she trusted the wrong people.
>She insists that leading a prayer circle wasn't her bonding with Patsy but
>simple courtesy. She acknowledges that JonBenet's body was a crime scene
>but
>somehow defends that the allowed John Ramsey to cover her body with a blanket
>thereby contaminating the crime scene.
>She defendsher turning over a xerox copy of the ransom note on January 5th
>to
>the Ramsey's attorneys by pointing out that they'd already read the note
>anyway
>and had given a handwriting sample using words from the note.
***One of the few tidbits I picked up from Geraldo's show last night is that
Arndt claims she is suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. I don't
know if she charges in her suit that her job caused it, but I'm sure that's
coming if she hasn't. Yet another reason for her to play up the horrible
trauma she suffered by enduring THE LOOK from John Ramsey while having only her
18 bullets to protect herself. (Even if this stupid story is true, I wonder if
it occurred to her that maybe Ramsey was saying/thinking/pretending to think
"If I ever find this bastard, I'm gonna rip him to shreds!" Something like
that would surely account for that scary LOOK).
And Arndt is absolutely useless in a courtroom. She had already told the cops
that she remembered nothing about that day except for what was in her notes,
and none of this stuff (the look, the "cordial" business, the fact that no one
commented on the passing of time, etc.) is in her notes. What a wacko!
(Question for ng--is it "wacko" or "whacko"?)
Maggie
"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."--Clark Gable on why he used
prostitutes
Harvey Nehgila
> (Question for ng--is it "wacko" or "whacko"?)
There are enough to go around that either works.
Mametsuki
DA to use her? What a sham. These two horrors of parents are really going to go
free without even a trial! Retribution will have to come from somewhere else.
It will. It always does.
Mametsuki
PHyatt1962
instinctive fear of John Ramsey. Who here would really be shocked if it was
found out that JonBenet had been sexually abused prior to this night.
Time has not weakened the initial response of most Americans:
We were all shocked when we saw the first videos of a 5 year old girl made up
to look like a sexy nightclub showgirl and we all said,
"these parents are screwballs!". The A&E program on pagents only confirmed
what these (mostly fat and ugly) domineering mothers were putting their kids
through...
Disgusting.
PH
JBrown6000
<<Linda Arnt's sexuality still do not negate what she saw, nor even her
instinctive fear of John Ramsey. Who here would really be shocked if it was
found out that JonBenet had been sexually abused prior to this night.
**I don't understand what Arndt's sexuality has to do with having an
instinctive fear of JR? What do you mean? I, for one, would be quite shocked
to discover that JBR had been the victim of ongoing molestation.
jb
PattyC4303
*bit* sexist sometimes. Talking about her sexuality, hmmm? Maybe he is
focusing on that, hmmm?
Wonder if that Kobe talked on tv, if PH would bring up "sexuality."
PattyC
Subject: Re: JBR - Arndt interview - Thursday - Day 4
>From: jbrow...@aol.combyte-me (JBrown6000)
>Date: Thu, 16 September 1999 07:12 PM EDT
>Message-id: <19990916191249...@ng-fq1.aol.com>
B. Kleeman
that a.m....
PHyatt1962
Sexuality has something to do with everything. This makes me "sexists", I
suppose in your view, but I believe that man and woman were created differently
and wonderfully think differently. That's been 6,000 years of Biblical
thought, but when the book "Mars and Venus" comes out, suddenly it makes
sense?? For belief in the Bible, we've known that always.
But, in referring to her thought to check her weapon,
I personally hold to the belief that women possess protective (maternal)
instincts that may have been inflamed at that moment
with John Ramsey. I know it won't hold up in court, but I personally believe
it. I don't think she's nuts at all, just a women responding emotionally. I
respect her, but honestly believe that her call would be home with her
children. Does she even have children? dunno.
Women have a greater emotional capacity than man, and a greater mind for
detail. This comes from the Bible.
I love my wife and my daughter, but wrestle with my sons, not with the ladies.
My daughter is a beautiful blonde haired girl who is only a few months
different in age than JBR so this case has been dear to me all along.
Ann Rule writes AS A WOMAN. I read her to read certain details that only a
woman's perspective can show. She is not at all like Janet Reno.
PH
Beauwirth Shirley
table of speculation this next October. There is NOTHING that I hate less.
We all know THEY did it. There is NOTHING we can do at this point. If the
Grand Jury finds no reason to indict them, what choice do we have?
B. Kleeman <bak...@epix.net> wrote in message
news:37E1A2BD...@epix.net...
Sherry
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Cop Suspected JonBenet's Dad - (DENVER) -- The first Boulder detective to
>arrive on the scene of the JonBenet Ramsey murder tells "Good Morning America"
>she suspected the girl's father of being the killer moments after he brought
>his daughter's body up from the basement. Linda Arndt said in her nationally
>broadcast interview with A-B-C's Elizabeth Vargas that it took an extraordinary
>long time for the police department to send back-up units after the
>six-year-old's body was found. The grand jury investigating the three-year-old
>murder case must either return an indictment by its October 20th deadline or
>lose the case.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
stating she immediately suspected John Ramsey, then I wonder why she
didn't reiterate her suspicions on the last broadcast instead of
suddenly being concerned about contaminating the criminal proceedings
that is pending.
s
JBrown6000
<<I love my wife and my daughter, but wrestle with my sons, not with the
ladies.
My daughter is a beautiful blonde haired girl who is only a few months
different in age than JBR so this case has been dear to me all along.
**mmm. Yeah, I bet. Are you one of those people who find JBR's pageant tapes
sexy?
jb
Douglas M. Case
jbrow...@aol.combyte-me (JBrown6000) wrote:
>... I, for one, would be quite shocked
>to discover that JBR had been the victim of ongoing molestation.
Well, you know I love you anyway, but *shocked*? At least six experts
have said so.
dmc
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That fellow seems to me to possess
but one idea, and that is a wrong one.
Samuel Johnson
JBrown6000
>... I, for one, would be quite shocked
>to discover that JBR had been the victim of ongoing molestation.
Doug answers:
Well, you know I love you anyway, but *shocked*? At least six experts
have said so.
**Name them. And you cannot count cyril or Linda. :)
jb
Douglas M. Case
jbrow...@aol.combyte-me (JBrown6000) wrote:
I don't know who Linda is, but what disqualifies Wecht? The fact that
you don't like his conclusions?
For the record, the others I refer to are Drs. Ronald Wright, Robert
Kirschner, David Jones, James Monteleone, and John McCann. The last three
were part of the Pathologists Shindig that Hunter threw.
dmc
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