FL: Men charged in deaths of two teenage girls found "stacked" on top of each other in TX....

[Slimpickins]

***I'm glad they found these men!

Slim

Sep 15, 2000 - 10:55 PM

Two Charged With Deaths of San Antonio Cousins
The Associated Press

SAN ANTONIO (AP) - Two men were charged Friday in the deaths of two teen-age
girls whose bodies were found stacked on top of each other in an alley.
Mario Orta, 50, and Pedro Bedolla, 45, were picked up capital murder charges
in the slayings of Cassandra Lopez, 14, of San Antonio, and Denise
Marmolejo, 13, of Ponte Vedra Beach near Jacksonville, Fla., police said.

The girls' bodies were found one atop the other behind a public library on
the city's west side July 30.

Orta was being held by immigration authorities in Karnes County, while
Bedolla is in custody in San Antonio. Police believe both men entered the
country illegally.

The girls, cousins, had apparently gone for a walk around 9 p.m. July 29
despite their grandmother's objections.

Police believe the girls were killed elsewhere and their bodies were dumped
on the gravel alley a few blocks from the grandmother's house, where Lopez
lived and where Marmolejo was staying for the summer.

The teens were found clothed and there was no evidence of sexual assault.

Police originally had classified the case as "apparent sudden death" rather
than homicide because there were no obvious signs of trauma, such as gunshot
or stab wounds.

Their deaths were ruled asphyxiation a week later.

[Slimpickins]

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>I'm glad you posted this. At the time I didn't think they'd ever arrest
>anyone. Wonder how they got em?
>JC
>
***I don't know How the the police were able to nail them, Josie. This
report was fairly fresh off the AP press when I spotted it, and it certainly
didn't give Any details :-( Hopefully more details will be released soon so
we'll know what exactly happened to these poor girls. I'll post any New*
news updates on this case that I happen to see you can be Sure!

Slim

[Patty]

Two men arrested in girls' slayings
By Ihosvani Rodriguez
San Antonio Express-News Staff Writer

Two men have been arrested in connection with the July killings of two 14-year-old cousins
whose bodies were found stacked atop each other behind a West Side library.

The crime had baffled investigators for nearly six weeks and had people in the
neighborhood demanding justice.

Initially, the few tips to the Police Department's homicide office failed to lead
investigators closer to solving the crime. Then, for about five weeks, there were no calls
at all.

"Nothing at all," confirmed San Antonio police Capt. Steve Barrera, who is overseeing the
investigation. "It was very frustrating."

Late last week, the phone finally rang with enough information for police to arrest two
middle-aged men on capital murder charges in the asphyxiation deaths of Cassandra Lopez
and Denise Marmolejo, officers announced Friday.

"It was," Barrera said, "an incredible break in this case."

One of the men accused, Mario Orta, 50, of the 1400 block of Elmendorf Road, was arrested
Wednesday morning by Immigration and Naturalization Service officers.

When San Antonio police started searching for Orta in the murder case, they found he was
in INS custody.

Orta's arrest record includes an assault charge, domestic abuse, public intoxication and
driving with a suspended license.

The second man, Pedro Bedolla, 45, of the 1200 block of San Luis, was arrested Friday at a
residence on Chihuahua Street and was being held in Bexar County Jail.

The men are not related to the victims, and both are suspected to be undocumented
immigrants, police said. The department is keeping close communication with immigration
officials, Police Chief Al Philippus said.

Regardless of their immigration status, both men will be tried in this country, police
said.

The announcement of the arrests is the first step in trying to fill a horrid void left by
the teens' deaths, family members said.

It also has eased some fears in a poverty- and crime-ridden community that rallied
together on behalf of the two girls shortly after the murders.

"Right now I am going to pray for the families of the two men," said Yvonne Lopez, the
teens' aunt. "Their family are now going to start feeling what we've gone through, what
everyone in this community has gone through."

While they announced the arrests at a news conference, police gave no details about how
the two men became murder suspects.

Philippus said his department still is working closely with the district attorney's office
to build a solid case against the two men.

"We had enough information and evidence to issue the warrant and charge them with capital
murder," Philippus said.

"However, this is still unfolding, and we want to give our investigators some more time to
make this case a better case. We can't release any more details that could jeopardize the
investigation," he said

A copy of the men's affidavit, which would reveal the basis for their warrants, was not
immediately available late Friday night.

The bodies of the two 14-year-olds were discovered July 30, one atop the other, behind
Bazan Branch Library in the 2200 block of West Commerce Street.

Marmolejo was from Florida and was spending the summer with her grandmother and her
cousin.

The two last were seen at a nearby plaza after they defied their grandmother's order to
stay home, insisting instead on taking an evening stroll.

Autopsies showed they were asphyxiated, and authorities ruled the deaths homicides.
Asphyxiation occurs when something stops oxygen from reaching the brain.

The deaths of the two girls brought together the West Side community that borders the
Guadalupe Cultural Arts Center, where they last were seen.

Neighbors filled a jar in a neighborhood grocery store with money for the family.
Contributions from church groups and individuals - some of whom had never met the
cousins - covered almost all of the funeral and burial expenses.

It was no surprise, then, that the news of the arrests spread quickly through the
neighborhood Friday.

Many couldn't believe one of the suspects lived just blocks from Lanier High School, and
less than a mile from Lopez's home.

"I walk to school every day and pass right in front of his house," 14-year-old Virginia
Zepeda said. "I am totally scared right now."

Many parents said they've used the incident as a warning to their children of what could
happen if they wander the streets alone in the evenings.

"I am sure she's going to feel relieved and think that she's now safe to go out," Blanca
Lozano said, referring to her 15-year-old daughter. "But how many other like these guys
are out there? This neighborhood has never been very safe."

Leading up to the arrests, church pastor Tony Salvo rose to become somewhat of a spokesman
and leader in the community. He was taking a nap Friday afternoon after spending most of
the morning delivering food to 18 homes in the community. He then was awakened by the
news.

"I am so glad they are finally caught," Salvo said. "For the longest time I drove all over
this community and looked at every court, and every empty building, and every corner, and
asked myself, 'Who could do this?' This is when we start healing."

When asked what should happened to the two men should they be found guilty of murder, the
pastor responded: the death penalty.

"This is a horrible crime that has killed the spirit of this community," he said.

On Friday, small children were seen playing yards from the apartment door of one of the
suspects.

Gloria Zegolla, mother of a 2-year-old child, said she was startled when she learned one
of the men arrested was her neighbor.

"You think your know your neighbors, but you don't really know them," she said.

The girls' grandmother, Jane Lopez, she said she didn't feel any anger toward the two men.
However, she vowed to keep a close eye on the case as the two men are processed through
the legal system.

"So far, the police have done a great job," she said. "I have faith that they are brought
to justice. This hasn't been good for anyone."

[JonesieCat]

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> Slim
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> Two Charged With Deaths of San Antonio Cousins
> The Associated Press
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> SAN ANTONIO (AP) - Two men were charged Friday in the deaths of two
teen-age
> girls whose bodies were found stacked on top of each other in an alley.

> Mario Orta, 50, and Pedro Bedolla, 45, were picked up capital murder
charges

[Slimpickins]

***Thanks for posting this Patty. I don't usually go much beyond the FL area
and the south east U.S region to see* the news so I Never would have
stumbled upon this :-).

Slim

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[edgar marmolejo]

On Saturday, September 16, 2000 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-5, Slimpickins wrote:
> JonesieCat wrote in message ...
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> ***I don't know How the the police were able to nail them, Josie. This
> report was fairly fresh off the AP press when I spotted it, and it certainly
> didn't give Any details :-( Hopefully more details will be released soon so
> we'll know what exactly happened to these poor girls. I'll post any New*
> news updates on this case that I happen to see you can be Sure!
> Slim

Denise was my cousin and today marks 21 years since they were found. I'm delving more into this hopefully something will become of this, my family has been seeking answers for a long time.

[NEMO]

There may have been no signs of sexual assault but you can generally
assume that these 2 girls got fucked before getting killed. At least
then they died happy. Give these killers credit, at least they're not
litter bugs; they did stack the bodies neatly.

[Gregory Carr]

Glad someone from the victims families are taking an interest in this double homicide. Don't mind NEMO's stupid comments he made. He is in real life if you can call what he does a life Gordon Radavitch a bitter, lonely, rejected pariah who lauds pedophiles and rapists online a homosexual very stupid and poor and racist and old. You can do a Google Groups search of his name for more info. Good luck and JEHOVAH BLESS getting justice. I support the death penalty for homicide.

Charges dropped in cousins' slayings
April 20, 2002
Updated: June 1, 2011 7:58 p.m.
Comments
Capital murder charges were dismissed Friday against two men who have been sitting in the county jail for nearly two years, awaiting trial in the puzzling killings of two 14-year-old cousins whose bodies were found behind a West Side library in July 2000.

Although authorities still consider the two men suspects in the slayings, they said Friday a lack of evidence and witnesses who have changed their stories led to the charges being dropped.

The move essentially leaves the deaths of Cassandra Lopez and her Florida-native cousin, Diane Marmolejo, unsolved.

"This hurts really bad," Marmolejo's mother, Evette Lopez, said from her home in Punta Verde, Fla. "I had to put this behind me because of my other children, but this brings it up all over again."

First Assistant District Attorney Michael Bernard said his office regrettably dismissed the charges against Pedro Bedolla, 52, and Mario Orta, 26.

"We're devastated that we had to do this," he said. "We had turned every stone and followed every lead, and there was simply nothing there to go to trial with."


Officials said investigators conducted DNA testing, analyzing a hair found on one of the teens, but the tests excluded the two men. Additionally, there was no physical evidence linking the men to the crime scene.

The slayings caused an uproar in the near West Side community where the girls were found July 30, 2000.

Their deaths sparked a series of protest marches and ardent efforts to shut down the bar near where the girls' bodies were found stacked on top of each other.

For five weeks, police had little to go on before receiving an anonymous tip. Police then held a news conference heralding the arrests of the two Mexican nationals.

The dismissals Friday came on the same day jury selection was set to begin in the capital murder case. The case now has been returned to police detectives for further investigation. Immigration officials quickly whisked away the two undocumented immigrants.

"I didn't even get a chance to see him and say goodbye," said Bedolla's attorney, Michael Gross.

After learning of the dismissals, some community leaders began to question the Police Department's initial investigation.

Father Walter D'heedene of Sacred Heart Church, who spearheaded most of the community's protest in 2000, said he wonders if police might have been too quick in making the arrest.

"I am just concerned that maybe they didn't put all their resources and full efforts in this community as they would have done in some other, more affluent part of the city," he said. "Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think that the justice system worked in this case."

Joel Botello, who at one time ran a grocery store where one of the girls was a regular customer, expressed disbelief that the charges had been dismissed.

"That's really messed up," he said. "If they were the wrong people, it's messed up that they were there for so long in jail. If they were the ones who did it, that's still messed up."

Police Capt. Steve Herrera acknowledged the department felt pressured to make an arrest, particularly because the crime involved children and because the community wanted answers. However, he said the department was confident at the time that they had the right men.

"We felt really good about this and felt it was strong enough to go to court," he said. "We will continue to pursue this."

According to court documents, police based their arrest mostly on the testimony of one witness.

The arrest affidavit alleges that two men were seen attempting to sexually assault the two girls in the alley behind the Commander's Bar in the 1800 block of Buena Vista. The bar was shut down amid community pressure.

According to the affidavit, the girls were choked, thrown in a trunk and dumped behind the Bazan Branch Library.

An autopsy report revealed that they had been asphyxiated, but the manner in which the killings were carried out remains a question, Bernard said.

The witnesses cited in the affidavit, however, recanted their version of events, Bernard said. Officials would not reveal the names of the witnesses who recanted. Court documents show at least two people on the prosecutor's witness list were, until recently, in jail on unrelated charges. The documents show prosecutors have asked a court to reduce their bonds and place them under house arrests.

Bernard said his office also questioned the credibility of one of the witnesses. One witness was arrested for ignoring a subpoena. Another had a history of drug abuse. He said there was no evidence to indicate anyone had threatened the witnesses to recant their stories.

"We were pursuing rumors as recently as yesterday," Bernard said Friday. "We're still not giving up on this. We know that someone out there saw something, or knows something."

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https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Charges-dropped-in-cousins-slayings-1405685.php

[Gregory Carr]

Actually tard you can't Gordon Radavitch. The autopsy probably showed their hymens intact and no penetration of the anus and no semen on the bodies. You can generally assume nazis like Gordon Radavitch aka NEMO aka Susan Cohen aka Loose Cannon are chronically lying sub morons who masturbate to child porn and pics of dead rotting animals he is a failed immigrant in Britain from Serbia. He was in the former Yugoslavia when the mass murders and gang rapes of children and grannies happened and no doubt participated considering he is a lowlife dolt and a racist and a fag and inferior.

>At least
> then they died happy.

Obviously not you have pathetic sex with your fat hausfrau and you are miserable.

>Give these killers credit, at least they're not
> litter bugs; they did stack the bodies neatly.

You are a anti-social throwaway. You are worthless. Your fellow nazis reject you serb slave Gordon Radavitch. Hitler hated ppl like you and your side lost the war.

new.scot...@met.police. Metropolitan Police Service New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW1H 0BG. Tel: 020 7230 1212. Fax: 020 7230 4276.Contact these guys about his online support for Arab terrorists, rapists and pedophiles. His hatred and loathing and lies about Jews, Blacks, Asians and his fat wife.
Nazis are notorious queers like Ernst Rohm and yourself Gordon Radavitch.

ab...@uk.tiscali.com
,
ab...@tiscali.com is where you can report his lies and stupid off topic posts and general inane racism and pro pedophilia and rape.

https://www.gov.uk/report-immigration-crime contact these ppl to get Gordon Radavich deported back to rural backwater Serbia.

Contact the Member at their Westminster address.
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA
Phone: 020 7219 4711
Email: kevin.f...@parliament.uk This person is responsible for immigration and deportations so contact him to get the vile Gordon Radavich deported from whence he came. Unlike in Canada and the USA that post isn't a Cabinet Post which is odd.

By Johann Hari, Guest Writer
The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists
10/21/2008 06:16 pm ET Updated May 25, 2011
The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked some people. It hasn’t shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.

Some 10,000 gay people were slaughtered in the Nazi death-camps. Many more were humiliated, jailed, deported, ethnically cleansed, or castrated. One gay survivor of the camps, LD Classen von Neudegg, has written about his experiences. A snapshot: “Three men had tried to escape one night. They were captured, and when they returned they had the word ‘homo’ scrawled across their clothing. They were placed on a block and whipped. Then they were forced to beat a drum and cheer, ‘Hurrah! We’re back! Hurrah!’ Then they were hanged.” This is one of the milder events documented in his book.

So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn’t blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It’s time to admit something. Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.

Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant platform, describing Islam as “a cancer” and “the biggest threat to Western civilisation today.” Yet with two little fluffy dogs and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied, “How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.”

Jorg Haider blasted Austria’s cosy post-Nazi politics to rubble in 2000 when his neo-fascist ‘Freedom Party’ won a quarter of the vote and joined the country’s government as a coalition partner. Several facts always cropped up in the international press coverage: his square jaw, his muscled torso, his SS-supporting father, his rabid anti-Semitism, his hatred of immigrants, his description of Auschwitz and Dachau as “punishment centres”. A few newspapers mentioned that he is always surrounded by fit, fanatical young men. A handful went further and pointed out that several of these young men are openly gay. Then one left-wing German paper broke the story everybody else was hinting at. They alleged Haider is gay.

Rumours of an Indian waiter with “intimate details” of Haider’s body broke into the press. The Freedom Party’s general manager Gerald Miscka quickly quit, amid accusations that he was Haider’s lover. Haider’s close gay friend Walter Kohler - who has been photographed showing off a holstered pistol while Haider chuckled - declared his opposition to outing politicians. Haider - who was married and has two children - kept quiet while his functionaries denied the rumours. The revelation that he died after leaving a gay bar suggests these rumours were true.

On and on it goes. If you inter-railed across Europe, only stopping with gay fascists, there aren’t many sights you’d miss. France’s leading post-war fascist was Edouard Pfieffer, who was not batting for the straight side. Germany’s leading neo-Nazi all through the eighties was called Michael Kuhnen; he died of AIDS in 1991 a few years after coming out. Martin Lee, author of a study of European fascism, explains, “For Kuhnen, there was something supermacho about being a Nazi, as well as being a homosexual, both of which enforced his sense of living on the edge, of belonging to an elite that was destined to make an impact. He told a West German journalist that homosexuals were ‘especially well-suited for our task, because they do not want ties to wife, children and family.’”

And it wouldn’t be long before your whistlestop tour arrived in Britain. At first glance, our Nazis seem militantly straight. They have tried to disrupt gay parades, describe gay people as “evil”, and BNP leader Nick Griffin reacted charmingly to the bombing of the Admiral Duncan pub in 1999 with a column saying, “The TV footage of gay demonstrators [outside the scene of carnage] flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures repulsive.”

But scratch to homophobic surface and there’s a spandex swastika underneath. In 1999, Martin Webster, a former National Front organiser and head honcho in the British fascist movement, wrote a four-page pamphlet detailing his ‘affair’ with Nick Griffin. “Griffin sought out intimate relations with me,” openly-gay Webster explained, “in the late 1970s. He was twenty years younger than me.” Ray Hill, who infiltrated the British fascist movement for twelve years to gather information for anti-fascist groups, says it’s all too plausible. Homosexuality is “extremely prevalent” in the upper echelons of the British far right, and at one stage in the 1980s nearly half of the movement’s organisers were gay, he claims.

Gerry Gable, editor of the anti-fascist magazine ‘Searchlight’, explains, “I have looked at Britain’s Nazi groups for decades and this homophobic hypocrisy has been there all the time. I cannot think of any organisation on the extreme right that hasn’t attacked people on the grounds of their sexual preference and at the same time contained many gay officers and activists.”

Griffins’ alleged gay affair would stand in a long British fascist tradition. The leader of the skinhead movement all through the 1970s was a crazed, muscled thug called Nicky Crane. He was the icon of a reactionary backlash against immigrants, feminism and the ‘hippy’ lifetsyle of the 1960s. His movement’s emphasis on conformity to a shaven, dehumanised norm resembled classical fascist movements; Crane soon became a campaigner and leading figure in the National Front. Oh, and he was gay. Before he died of AIDS in the mid-1980s, Crane came out and admitted he had starred in many gay porn videos. Just before he died in 1986, he was allowed to steward a Gay Pride march in London, even though he still said he was “proud to be a fascist.”

The rubber-soled friction between gay fascists and progressive British gay people sparked into anger in 1985 when the Gay Skinhead Movement organised a disco at London’s Gay Centre. Several lesbians in particular objected to the “invasion” of the centre. They felt that the cult of “real men” and hypermasculine thugs was stirring up the most base feelings “in the very place, the gay movement, where you would least expect them.”

And this Gaystapo has an icon to revere, an alternative Fuhrer to worship: the lost gay fascist leader Ernst Rohm. Along with Adolf Hitler, Rohm was the founding father of Nazism. Born to conservative Bavarian civil servants in 1887, Ernst Rohm’s life began - in his view - in the “heroic” trenches of the First World War. Like so many of the generation who formed the Nazi Party, he was nurtured by and obsessed with the homoerotic myth of the trenches - heroic, beautiful boys prepared to die for their brothers and their country.

He emerged from the war with a bullet-scarred face and a reverence for war. As he put it in his autobiography, “Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than the good bourgeois order.” After being disbanded, he tried half-heartedly to get a foothold in civilian life, but he saw it as alien, bourgeois, boring. He had no political beliefs, only prejudices - particularly hatred of Jews. Historian Joachim Fest describes Rohm’s generation of alienated, demobbed young men humiliated by defeat as “agents of a permanent revolution without any revolutionary idea of the future, only a wish to eternalize the values of the trenches.”

It was Rohm who first spotted the potential of a soap-box ranter called Adolf Hitler. He saw him as the demagogue he needed to mobilize support for his plan to overthrow democracy and establish a “soldier’s state” where the army ruled untrammelled. He introduced the young fascist to local politicians and military leaders; they knew him for many years as “Rohm’s boy.” Gay historian Frank Rector notes, “Hitler was, to a substantial extent, Rohm’s protégé.” Rohm integrated Hitler into his underground movement to overthrow the Weimar Republic.

Rohm’s blatant, out homosexuality seems bizarre now, given the gay genocide that was to follow. He talked openly about his fondness for gay bars and Turkish baths, and was known for his virility. He believed that gay people were superior to straights, and saw homosexuality as a key principle of his proposed Brave New Fascist Order. As historian Louis Snyder explains, Rohm “projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute... He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people weren’t as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA.” They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning “hysterical women of both sexes”, in reference to feminine gay men.

This belief in the superiority of homosexuality had a strong German tradition that grew up at the turn of the twentieth century around Adolf Brand, publisher of the country’s first gay magazine. You could call it ‘Queer as Volk’: they preached that gay men were the foundation of all nation-states and represented an elite, warrior caste that should rule. They venerated the ancient warrior cults of Sparta, Thebes and Athens.

Rohm often referred to the ancient Greek tradition of sending gay solider couples into battle, because they were believed to be the most ferocious fighters. The famous pass of Thermopylae, for example was held by 300 soldiers - who consisted of 150 gay couples. In its early years, the SA - Hitler and Rohm’s underground army - was seen as predominantly gay. Rohm assigned prominent posts to his lovers, making Edmund Heines his deputy and Karl Ernst the SA commander in Berlin. The organisation would sometimes meet in gay bars. The gay art historian Christian Isermayer said in an interview, “I got to know people in the SA. They used to throw riotous parties even in 1933... I once attended one. It was quite well-behaved but thoroughly gay. But then, in those days, the SA was ultra-gay.”

On June 30th 1934, Rohm was awoken in a Berlin hotel by Hitler himself. He sprang to his feet and saluted, calling, “Heil Mein Fuhrer!” Hitler said simply, “You are under arrest,” and with that he left the room, giving orders for Rohm to be taken to Standelheim prison. He was shot that night. Rohm was the most high-profile kill in the massacre known as ‘the Night of the Long Knives’.



Rohm had been suspected by Hitler of disloyalty, but his murder began a massive crackdown on gay people. Heinrich Himmler, head of the Gestapo, described homosexuality as “a symptom of degeneracy that could destroy our race. We must return to the guiding Nordic principle: extermination of degenerates.”



German historian Lothar Machtan argues that Hitler had Rohm - and almost all of the large number of gay figures within the SA - killed to silence speculation about his own homosexual experiences. His ‘evidence’ for Hitler being gay is shaky and has been questioned by many historians, although some of his findings are at least suggestive. A close friend of Hitler’s during his teenager years, August Kubizek, alleged a “romantic” affair between them. Hans Mend, a despatch rider who served alongside Hitler in the First World War, claimed to have seen Hitler having sex with a man. Hitler was certainly very close to several gay men, and never seems to have had a normal sexual relationship with a woman, not even his wife, Eva Braun.

Rudolph Diels, the founder of the Gestapo, recorded some of Hitler’s private thoughts on homosexuality. “It had destroyed ancient Greece, he said. Once rife, it extended its contagious effects like an ineluctable law of nature to the best and most manly of characters, eliminating from the breeding pool the very men the Volk most needs.” This idea - that homosexuality is ‘contagious’ and, implicitly, tempting - is revealing.

Rohm is venerated on the Homo-Nazi sites that have bred on the internet like germs in a wound. They have names like Gays Against Semitism (with the charming acronym GAS), and the Aryan Resistance Corps (ARC). Their Rohmite philosophy is simple: while white men are superior to other races, gay men are “the masters of the Master Race”. They alone are endowed with the “capacity for pure male bonding” and the “superior intellect” that is needed for “a fascist revolution.” The ARC even organises holiday “get-togethers” for its members where “you can relax amongst the company of our fellow white brothers.”

So it’s fairly easy to establish that gay people are not inoculated from fascism. They have often been at its heart. This begs the bigger question: why? How did gay people - so often victims of oppression and hate - become integral to the most hateful and evil political movement of all? Is it just an extreme form of self-harm, the political equivalent to the gay kids who slash their own arms to ribbons out of self-hate?

Gay pornographer and film-maker Bruce LaBruce has one explanation. He claims that “all gay porn today is implictly fascist. Fascism is in our bones, because it’s all about glorifying white male supremacy and fetishizing domination, cruelty, power and monstrous authority figures.” He has tried to explore the relationship between homosexuality and fascism in his movies, beginning with ‘No Skin Off My Ass’ in 1991. In his disturbing 1999 film “Skin Flick’, a bourgeois gay couple - one black, one white - are sexually terrorised by a gang of gay skinheads who beat off to ‘Mein Kampf’ and beat up ‘femmes’. He implies that bourgeois gay norms quickly break down to reveal a fascist lurking underneath; the movie ends with the black character being raped in front of his half-aroused white lover, as the racist gang chant, “Fuck the monkey.”

I decided to track down some gay fascists and ask them directly. Wyatt Powers, director of the ARC, says, “I always knew in my heart racist and gay were both morally right. I don’t see any conflict between them. It’s only the Jew-owned gay press that tries to convince us that racialism is the same thing as homophobia. You can be an extreme nationalist and gay without any contradiction at all.”

One comment board on a gay racist website goes even further into racist lunacy. One gay man from Ohio says, “Even if you are gay and white, or retarded and white, YOU ARE WHITE, BOTTOM LINE! Instead of letting the white race go extinct because of worthless races such as the Africans or Mexicans popping out literally millions of babies a day, we have to fight this fucked up shit they are doing. They are raping our country.” It’s true that racism and homophobia do not necessarily overlap - but as Rabbi Bernard Melchman explains, “Homophobia and anti-Semitism are so often part of the same disease.” Racists are usually homophobic. Even after reading all their web rantings, I didn’t feel any closer to understanding why so many gay men ally themselves with people who will almost always turn on them in the end, just as the Nazis did.

Gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell has a sensitive and intriguing explanation. “There are many reasons for this kind of thing,” he says. “Some of them are in denial. They are going for hyper-masculinity, the most extreme possible way of being a man. It’s a way of ostentatiously rejecting the perceived effeminacy of the homosexual ‘Other’. These troubled men have a simple belief in their minds: ‘Straight men are tough. Queers are weak. Therefore if I’m tough I can’t be queer.’ It’s a desperate way of proving their manhood.”

‘Searchlight’ magazine - the bible of the British anti-fascist movement, with moles in every major far-right organisation - offers an alternative explanation. “Generally condemned by a society that continues to be largely hostile to gays, some men may find refuge and a new power status in the far right,” one of their writers has explained. “Through adherence to the politics espoused by fascist groups, a new identity emerges - one where they aren’t outcasts, because they are White Men, superior to everyone else. They render the gay part of their identity invisible - or reject the socially less acceptable parts, like being feminine - while vaunting what they see as superior.”

But there’s another important question: will fascist movements inevitably turn on gay people? In the case of the Nazis, it seems to have been fairly arbitrary; Hitler’s main reason for killing Rohm was unrelated to his sexuality. From my perspective as a progressive-minded leftie, all fascism is evil; but should all gay people see it as inimical to their interests? Is it possible to have a gay fascist who wasn’t acting against his own interests? Fascism is often defined as “a political ideology advocating hierarchical government that systematically denies equality to certain groups.” It’s true that this hierarchy could benefit gay people at the expense of, say, black people. But given the prevalence of homophobia, isn’t that - even for people who don’t see fascism as inherently evil - a terrible risk to take? Won’t a culture that turns viciously on one minority get around to gay people in the end? This seems, ultimately, to be the lesson of Ernst Rohm’s pitiful, squalid little life.

The growing awareness of the role gay men play in fascist movements has been abused by some homophobes. In an especially nutty work of revisionist history called ‘The Pink Swastika’, the ‘historian’ Scott Lively tries to blame gay people for the entire Holocaust, and describes the murder of gay men in the camps as merely “gay-on-gay violence.” A typical website commenting on the book claims absurdly, “The Pink Swastika shows that there was far more brutality, rape, torture and murder committed against innocent people by Nazi homosexuals than there even was against homosexuals themselves.”

Yet we can’t allow these madmen to prevent a period of serious self-reflection from the gay movement. If Bruce LaBruce is right, many of the mainstream elements of gay culture - body worship, the lauding of the strong, a fetish for authority figures and cruelty - provide a swamp in which the fascist virus can thrive. Do some gay people really still need to learn that fascists will not bring on a Fabulous Solution for gay people, but a Final Solution for us all?

Johann Hari is a writer for the Independent newspaper. To read more of his articles, click here.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697

Thomas Michael Marks is a known Pedophile and Nazi.

The 54 year old Roseville, Minnesota White Nationalist
organizer has been arrested in an undercover Child-sex sting in
August, 1997. Marks answered an internet ad for a company in
Yuma, Arizona offering enticements of ”the young at heart.”
This is a known code phrase for those interested in sex with
children. The placed Ad was part of an undercover operation and
Marks was arrested after flying into Yuma and meeting with his
“sex-tour liaison” at a motel. According to court documents
Marks was interested in overnight stays with pre-teen girls and
booked a three day stay with several 8-year old girls. After
raiding his residence federal agents discovered child
pornography downloaded to his computer. Marks was a teacher
before getting arrested in the Child-sex sting.

Francis Joseph "Frank" Collin (born November 3, 1944 in
Chicago, Illinois) Midwest coordinator with the National
Socialist White People's Party. After being ousted for being
part Jewish (which he denied), Collin founded in 1970, the
National Socialist Party of America.[1] In the late 1970s, its
plan to march in the predominantly Jewish suburb of Skokie,
Illinois was challenged, but the ACLU defended its freedom of
speech and assembly in a case that reached the United States
Supreme Court. The court in National Socialist Party of America
v. Village of Skokie (1979), a major First Amendment decision,
ruled that the party had a right to march and to display a
swastika, despite local opposition. Collin was convicted and
sentenced in 1979 for child molestation.

Germany opens files on Chile sect run by Nazi pedophile‘For
many years… German diplomats looked the other way,’ concedes
foreign minister regarding abusive group Colonia Dignidad
http://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-opens-files-on-chile-sect-
run-by-nazi-pedophile/

Kevin Alfred Strom (born August 17, 1956) is an American White
nationalist, neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier, White separatist and
associate editor of National Vanguard. Strom resigned from
National Vanguard in July 2006,[1] but rejoined in 2012.
In 2008 Strom pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography
and was sentenced to 23 months in prison, of which he served
four months. He has posted as Topaz on USENET from time to time over the years spreading his lies and hatreds towards his cultural and intellectual betters the Jews.
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Nazis are pedophiles hang them.

August Kreis III: Sentenced to 50 Years For Child Molestation

Back in June 2008 we ran a story concerning neo-Nazi parents (one of whom we continue to refer to as "Nazi Mom") who had attended the first Aryan Guard march in Calgary. This particular couple, now divorced, hit the news when Child and Family Services removed the children from their home after "Nazi Mom" had sent her daughter to school with racist iconography scrawled in marker all over her daughter's arms. Despite attempting to regain custody, "Nazi Mom" never did regain her parental rights.

At the time the news hit the msm, the usual suspects jumped in to support "Nazi Mom" and "Nazi Dad." The most prominent included Paul Fromm and members of the Aryan Guard itself, but they also received some international support:

August Kreis III, the leader of the Aryan Nations, told the Winnipeg Free Press his organization is prepared to mobilize whatever resources are necessary -- including financial and legal -- to ensure the decision isn't allowed to stand. He said the case is unlike anything he's ever heard of and fears it will set a dangerous precedent across North America.

"We're all family people. If they can do this in Canada, how long until they are doing it down here?" Mr. Kreis said in an interview from his home in South Carolina.
....
"The Canadians need to know we support this fight, that they are not alone. We're all over, and there are a lot of Canadians who feel the same way we do and are fed up with all this multiculturalism."

Mr. Kreis said he wouldn't advise his followers to turn their children into so-called "billboards" -- such as what is alleged to have happened in Winnipeg -- but added that's hardly grounds to have children removed from a home.

Mr. Kreis questions why similar seizures haven't been made of children being raised by homosexual or lesbian parents.

Ah, they are, "all family people" eh? Big supporters of the 14 words, no doubt.

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

It is such a relief that family men such as August Kreis are looking out for the welfare of "white" families and their children. Kreis himself was a family man having sired many children himself.

And just how well protected were the "white" children under Kreis' care?

Former Aryan Nations Leader Gets 50 Years For Child Rape

August Byron Kreis III, a one-time pre-eminent racist leader with ties to the Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus and the Aryan Nations, will spend the rest of his life in prison for child molestation.

The 61-year-old Kreis -- who lost both legs to diabetes and is now wheel-chair bound -- was sentenced Thursday to 50 years in prison after being found guilty by a jury in Lexington, S.C., of one count of criminal sexual conduct involving a child and two counts of committing lewd acts on a child.

The charges were related to repeated sexual abuse of two girls between the ages of 10 and 14 by the man who at one-time declared he was the hand-picked leader of the Aryan Nations, chosen to succeed the late Richard G. Butler.

But child rape conviction aside, Kreis wasn't about to let the opportunity to get the message out pass:

During the three-day trial, Kreis held up a sign to the jury, “Vote for Donald Trump.” That prompted his defense attorney to ask for a mistrial, but the judge rejected the attempt to derail the trial.

At sentencing Thursday afternoon, Kreis was back with an anti-Semitic rant and another plug for the Republican presidential candidate who is leading most current polls.

“I will always hate the Jew,” Kreis said in the courtroom. “This government is run by an evil group of people, and, please, ‘Vote for Trump!’”

An endorsement that we think even the Donald would refuse.

We think.

http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2015/11/august-kreis-iii-sentenced-to-50-years.html
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KKK "Grand Dragon" molested his granddaughter
http://tinyurl.com/ou674td

Leading US neo-Nazi jailed for child porn possession
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom

More on neo-nazis and child porn
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7469180.stm

neo-Nazi leader shot dead by his 10 year old son whom he abused
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jeff_Hall

Frank Collin, leader of the National Socialist Party of America: pedophile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin

"Aryan Nations" leader, convicted of theft, is also a pedophile
http://tinyurl.com/q2qm743

Fugitive Nazis who built a paedophile paradise in the sun
http://tinyurl.com/p8sungc

neo-Nazi attacks women with hammer, gets 248-year sentence
http://tinyurl.com/pcblep5

http://tinyurl.com/oa55jxz
Notorious German Neo-Nazi Tino Brandt Charged With Child Abuse

Nazis were "sexually aroused by necrophilia, bestiality and sadism"
http://tinyurl.com/kppjbuc

White supremacist beat a five year old to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_W._Ryan

British neo-Nazis torture, murder 17 month old boy
http://tinyurl.com/nlddf8

British neo-Nazi sentenced to life for raping a two year old girl
http://tinyurl.com/o3obact

Child porn found on computer of neo-Nazi Holocaust Museum shooter
http://tinyurl.com/nqvkoba

White supremacists rob and murder a family, including an 8 year old girl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevie_Kehoe

British KKK "leader" is a convicted child molester
http://tinyurl.com/pcdav6g
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/ootdie/articles/wiw.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/opmajuf

Hungarian neo-Nazis murder four year old boy
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3835961.ece

BNP paedophile convicted
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-murderer-paedophile-convicted-22062012

And ANOTHER BNP paedophile convicted!
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-paedophile-jailed-13012006

White supremacist tortured and sexually assaulted teen stepdaughters
http://tinyurl.com/pucouny

Nigel Hesmondalgh, British neo-Nazi: jailed for possessing a series
of degrading photos and videos of children.
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/09/06/edl-sex-offenders-list/

Shaun Jones, British neo-Nazi: jailed for raping a 12 year old girl
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/updated-edl-nonce-list/
http://tinyurl.com/qxefndm

Kane Hutchinson, British neo-Nazi: jailed for abusing young boys
http://tinyurl.com/oc3zm2w

John Broomfield, British neo-Nazi: jailed for child abuse images
http://tinyurl.com/pxfq6ux
https://liveraf.wordpress.com/tag/john-broomfield/

Mervyn Jones, British neo-Nazi: 17 years for "sustained and prolific sex crimes"
http://tinyurl.com/q838xlf
http://tinyurl.com/oa87ea8

Darren Francis, British neo-Nazi: multiple sex offences, illegal drugs
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.il/2010/07/bnp-paedophile-every-parents-worst.html

James Mullen, British neo-Nazi, repeatedly kicked his pregnant girlfriend
in the stomach, attacked others, incl. a 10-year-old girl
http://tinyurl.com/pth57ou

Wayne McCurry, British neo-Nazi, convicted of attacking two 14-year-old girls
More on this sick nazoid animal: http://tinyurl.com/penov2z

Eliot Jones, British neo-Nazi, sentenced for blackmail and child abuse
Yes, business as usual with the nazoid sickos.
More in: http://tinyurl.com/p89ypar

Jeff Marsh, British neo-Nazi "leader", jailed for attacking a woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuals_United

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Crane Nicky Crane formed Blood and Honour a terrorist nazi group banned in many countries including Canada, USA and Spain. He spent 5 years in prison for violent crimes before dying of AIDS before his 40th birthday 18 months after coming out about his queerdom on TV.

You have such a empty, vacant life you read newsgroups about subjects that happen in places 5,000 miles away from you that you have no connection with. Oh wait you have no connection with anything nithling.

Gordon Radavitch is FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT like Jake Virtanen. Homosexuals out of team sports homosexuals out of the locker rooms. Quit beating off thinking of the high school qb or the team captain. Until this year no player in the big 6 team sports in Canada/USA was ever openly homosexual while a player. Jake Virtannen needs to go he is a borderline 4th liner who is not a team player or good in the room.


You pissed because you can't rape Croats and Kosovians anymore? The court at the Hague should investigate you for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia you are the right age for that.

Have another wretched, poverty stricken mediocre day Gordon Radavich you child raping ,child porn watching moronic dip.

Up your nose with a rubber hose.

Gordon Radavich is a second world Serbian dole boy. He is a chronic liar with no friends. His wife is an adulterous fat disgusting pig. Lots of felchers in London, England to ream your diseased ass' Gordon Radavich.

Loose Cannon aka Gordon Radavich [rado...@tiscali.co.uk] He uses various other nicks as well such as NEMO and Susan Cohen.

Radavich is so stupid he spelled his name wrong on his email addy. The email is valid. Feel free to contact his ISP about his anti-Black, anti-Jewish, anti-Asian posts to USENET and his general stupidity and off-topic posts to various ngs.

Population of earth: 7,442,000,000,000
Number of people superior to Gordon: 7,441,999,999,999"
"Police have arrested a Serbian national following a lengthy
investigation into anti-Semitic activities. Gordon Radavich, 51, a
satellite system installer, was arrested at his home in Albert Bridge
Road, Battersea, and charged with various offences under the Public
Order Act (1986) and Computer Misuse Act (1990). Several computers
and a number of foreign passports were removed from the premises for
forensic examination. After a preliminary hearing before Wandsworth
magistrates yesterday he was remanded in custody until 16th August."

Hope Brexit gets your child raping ass deported back to Serbia and away from the First World.

What a pathetic life you lead.

Glad Earl J Weber the Louisiana pedophile is dead Gordon Radavich lauded him on USENET. Neither of them ever had a child or did it with a even an average woman. Weber never saw a woman over 10 naked that's how fat catholics do it the poorest state in America. Both were/are chronic liars and totally racist against Blacks and dumber than the slime from a snail. Both lost the war they were involved in.

Gordon Radavich is from Serbia a Slav a Untermensch.

Even Hitler looked down on slavs! LOL

"As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mould the best
of them as we see fit, and we will isolate the rest of them in their
own pig-styes; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local
inhabitants and civilising them, goes straight off into a
concentration camp!"
Adolph Hitler, speaking about Slavic Untermensch like Gordon, 6 August
1942.

During the last century it was lamentable for those who had to witness
it, to notice how in these circles I have just mentioned the word
'Germanize' was frivolously played with, though the practice was often
well intended. I well remember how in the days of my youth this very
term used to give rise to notions which were false to an incredible
degree. Even in Pan-German circles one heard the opinion expressed
that the Austrian Germans might very well succeed in Germanizing the
Austrian Slavs, if only the Government would be ready to co-operate.
Those people did not understand that a policy of Germanization can be
carried out only as regards human beings.
-Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 2

Slavs are a mass of inborn slaves, who feel the need of a master.
-Adolph Hitler, Hitler’s Table Talk: 1941-1944

[Texas Bluebonnett]

Pedro Bedolla passed away a few years ago in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico.

[Texas Bluebonnett]

On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 12:09:48 AM UTC-5, edgar marmolejo wrote:

I don't know if anyone still sees this...Pedro passed away a few years ago in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico.

[Greg Carr]

I have seen ppl posting relevant stuff on crimes posted here in 1999. The case of the murdered cousins remains unsolved there was no physical or DNA evidence linking the murders to the 2 men held in jail for 2 years.

[Edgar Marmolejo]

I just saw this. I’m her cousin. Any way you could send me a source for this? Thank you so much.

[Edgar Marmolejo]

I’ve been alive long enough to meet plenty of people like NEMO. One thing I know is that he wouldn’t make those comments in front of me or anybody in our family he because he would end up in a pit somewhere in Mexico. He’s just a clown. Thank you.