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Charles J. "Skip" Horni

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Aug 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/3/98
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Coming out of lurk mode.

First, I find this group very, shall I say, very interesting. OT
threads included.

I am living in Belgium right now. I have been hearing bits and pieces of

a story out of Juarez Mexico. About a number of young women (from 5-7
depending
on the source) that have been found murdered. "These are not thought to
be
related to the 9 found last year"! Exclamation point mine. I thought El
Paso and
environs, to be a special case when it came to murders per capita. I.E.
extremely
low for whatever reason. And now I hear about this.

I "think" most of you on this group are in the U.S. And was curious if
there are
any more details ATT?

Haven't as yet seen anything about this on the NG, but due to having to
pay
connect fees, don't get on to the NG as much as I would like.

Thanks and nice to meet'cha.

Skip Horni


Joe1orbit

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"Charles J. \"Skip\" Horni" <c...@skynet.be> Wrote:

>Coming out of lurk mode.

Hello Skip,

Welcome to the wonderful world of posting.

>First, I find this group very, shall I say, very interesting. OT
>threads included.

Glad to hear that. I strive to provide on-topic posts, but sometimes get
caught up in making REPLIES ONLY to off topic comments directed towards me that
other humans choose to make.

>I am living in Belgium right now. I have been hearing bits and pieces of
>
>a story out of Juarez Mexico. About a number of young women (from 5-7
>depending
>on the source) that have been found murdered.
>"These are not thought to
>be
>related to the 9 found last year"! Exclamation point >mine.

Actually, there have been over a HUNDRED women found brutally murdered and
dumped in the desert areas of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, over the past 10+ years.

> I thought El
>Paso and
>environs, to be a special case when it came to murders per capita. I.E.
>extremely
>low for whatever reason.

I've never heard of El Paso, TX having any particular distinction for low
murder rates.

> And now I hear about this.
>
>I "think" most of you on this group are in the U.S. And was curious if
>there are
>any more details ATT?

I have made several posts in recent months about the ubsolved killings of the
100+ young gals in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, both to this NG, and to the SK-List.
You can find those posts of mine over at http://www.dejanews.com. Below is my
most recent post on this fascinating case.

>Haven't as yet seen anything about this on the NG, but due to having to
>pay
>connect fees, don't get on to the NG as much as I >would like.

Below is an older wire article, that I've already posted and commented on, in
past months.

>Thanks and nice to meet'cha.

You're welcome. And yes, I am back from my regular monthly trip.

Take care, JOE

Hello,

Here is a rather interesting update on the prolific torture-rape-killings of
young women and gorls that continue to occur, unabated, over in and around the
Mexucan border city ofCiudad Juarez. As I have posted previously, a
tremendously high number of women and girls are being slaughtered in this city.
At least 115 unsolved killings of women have occured over the past few years.
Most of these women are not only killed, but first raped and tortured, bvefore
being stabbed or strangled to death. IMO, there is a very high likelihood that
SOME of these 115+ unsolved killings are the work of a lone serial killer.

We do get some interesting new details in the below update, beyond the
already well-known fact that feminist groups are claiming that the police are
not investigating these killings of poor and societally unimportant women, in a
proper fashion. What intrigues me more are the tidbits of genuine sadism and
rage that are revealed in the below article, which hint strongly that an
enraged serial killer is likely at work here.

Most of the 115+ female victims disappeared and only were found MONTHS later,
dead and dumped in the desert. Many of these females are girls, aged 10 to 19,
although some were much older. The thing they all have in common is that they
are poor, and they work in blue collar factory jobs. Some of the girls/women
seem to disappear together, which suggests that a 'gang", or at least 2 or more
predators, are working together in the abduction/torture-killings.

In one case, 13 and 15 year old girls, who worked at the same factory,
disappeared as they were walking to work. Both were then raped, tortured, and
repeatedly stabbed. The brutalization was so ferocious that an autopsy on the
13 year old girl showed that she suffered FOUR separate heart attacks during
her hours/days of rape and torture, before she finally died.

Six different men have been arrested over the past few years, and accused of
committing some of these 115+ killings. But NONE of those defendents have been
convicted of any of the murders and most of the cases were thrown out by the
courts, due to lack of concrete evidence. Meanwhile, the killings continue
unabated.

There is good reason to believe that a fellow dubbed "The Juarez Ripper" is
responsible for many of these killings. In 1995, a 50 year old Egyptian
engineer named Sharif Sharif was arrested and charged with committing a few of
the murders. Sharif had a past criminal history of violent assaults against
women in the USA. Sharif declared and continues to declare his innocence, and
even after his arrrest, similar murders of women continued to occur. Sharif is
still being held in jail, but all charges against him, except for one, have
been dismissed. Declares Sharif: "They make me out to be some kind of animal, a
'Jack the Ripper'. But I have been used as a scapegoat to cover up the
incompetence of the judicial authorities." Hey, at least Sharif is a little
bit familiar with serial killers, as evidenced by his reference to Jack The
Ripper. Meanwhile, the Mexican attorney general tells us that he believes that
even if Shariff was a serial killer, it is extremely likely that there is
another serial on the loose and active right now.

Other police authorities tell us that none other than the egotistical,
publicity-hungry ex-FBI agent/so called 'expert' on serial killers, Robert
ressler, will be visiting the city of Ciudad Juarez sometime this month to try
and help local cops figure out if a lone serial killer is on the loose.

We also get the usual commentary about how women in the area are being
oppressed, the sexism and anti-female attitudes of police, etc.... There is no
doubt that societies do encourage enraged predators to direct their violence
towards certain segments of the population. And so the attitude of the mexican
macho/conservative male societal leaders very likely has played some role in
inspiring one or more of the killers of these 115+ gals to very specifically
target them. Whenever a society chooses to declare as a matter of public policy
that some human lives are worthless and expendable, it is inevitable that
enraged predators will be drawn towards those particular member of society, and
choose to victimize them.

The thought of ONE serial killer having claimed 50 or more female lives over
the past few years and remaining on the loose certainly does fascinate me. The
fact that Ciudad Juarez is a border city means that the possibility of the
serial killer being an american citizen cannot be ruled out at all.

Take care, JOE

The following appears courtesy of the 6/10/98 Reuters news wire:

Death toll mounts for women in Mexican city

By David Luhnow

MEXICO CITY, June 10 (Reuters) - Every two weeks on average, a young woman in
Mexico's northern border city of Ciudad Juarez turns up dead: raped, tortured,
stabbed, strangled or all of the above.

Their naked, decomposing bodies are often found only weeks or months after the
crimes, poking up from the sand in the nearby desert or lying in a trash dump
surrounded by vultures.

A makeshift cardboard cross placed by the victims' families stands outside the
city's police station as a mute reminder of the growing number of sex murders
that haunt Juarez and are prompting a national outcry for answers.

On the cross, 117 smaller crosses of different colours have been placed, each
representing a young woman killed over the past five years.

``There is an epidemic of violence against women in Juarez, and the authorities
are sticking their heads in the sand like ostriches,'' said Alma Vukovich, a
federal deputy from the leftist Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD) and
head of a congressional committee on gender issues.

Mexico's Congress passed a resolution early in June calling on officials in
northern Chihuahua state to solve the crimes.

Vukovich and five other female deputies visited Juarez in late May and plan to
meet President Ernesto Zedillo later this month to ask him to get directly
involved in the case.

A GRIM LIST OF VICTIMS

Local police are quick to point out that like any other big city, Juarez has
its share of crime.

The city's cocaine gangs account for at least a small share of violence against
women. Police in 1996 found Rocio Miranda Aguero, 28-year-old owner of the
cabaret Top Capos, dunked in a vat of corrosive acid. Only her silicone breast
implants and wrists remained.

But the 117 victims were not shot by jealous lovers in hotel rooms or knifed in
a robbery outside their homes. They simply vanished and turned up dead months
later, dumped in a remote location.

Many of the victims were teenagers, and some were as young as 10. Almost all
were poor. Most worked in nearby factories known as maquiladoras --
foreign-owned assembly plants that are the lifeblood of the local economy.

The official police list of victims and details about the cases make for
terrifying reading. Time and again, under the heading ``suspect'' there is a
simple question mark. In almost half the cases, the bodies remain unidentified
and unclaimed.

Susana Flores, 13, and Brenda Lizeth, 15, disappeared one morning in December
1996 as they walked to work at a local maquiladora. Both were raped, tortured,
and stabbed repeatedly.
An autopsy later showed Susana suffered four heart attacks from the terror
before finally succumbing to her tormentors.

At least six suspected killers have been locked up in the past few years,
including an Egyptian man who police say carried out or ordered at least 19
murders. None have been convicted and the courts have thrown out most cases for
lack of evidence.

But whether or not officials have locked up the right killers, one thing is
sure: the killings continue and the vast majority remain unsolved.

THE JUAREZ RIPPER?

Sex killings first grabbed headlines in Juarez when a series of mutilated
bodies began turning up in a deserted city suburb in 1993. The victims were
young and similar looking.
Most were raped, strangled and had their breasts mutilated.

City residents panicked as newspapers dubbed the suspected killer, ``The Juarez
Ripper.''

Authorities in 1995 arrested one suspected serial killer, a 50-year-old
Egyptian engineer named Sharif Sharif, and charged him with several of the
murders. Sharif had a past record of assault against women in the United
States.

Sharif protested his innocence, saying the real killer was on the loose, and
predicted the killings would continue. They did, including some which shared
the same characteristics as his alleged crimes.

A year later, police arrested a gang called The Rebels, who police charged with
carrying out murders for money on Sharif's behalf to make it appear he was
innocent.

But the case remains muddied amid charges the gang members were tortured for
their confessions. And judges have since thrown out all but one of the charges
against Sharif.

``They make me out to be some kind of animal, a 'Jack the Ripper'. But I have
been used as a scapegoat to cover up the incompetence of the judicial
authorities,'' he told Reuters in an interview from his Juarez jail cell, where
he keeps stacks of newspaper clippings and files on the crimes.

Sharif has managed to convince at least one woman of his innocence: Irene
Blanco, a local political activist for the conservative opposition who took a
crash course in law to become Sharif's lawyer when no one else would defend
him.

Attorney General Arturo Chavez Chavez told Reuters police think another serial
killer may be at work due to similarities in three killings this year.

Other local officials said ex-FBI agent Robert Ressler, a known criminologist
who interviewed U.S. cannibal killer Jeffrey Dahmer, would visit the city
sometime in June to help police determine if a serial killer is on the prowl.

SEX, DRUGS AND POLKA

Many people in Juarez believe the talk of serial killers has distracted
attention from the real problem: a society where women are left unprotected and
the men largely free to abuse them without fear of getting caught.

``The fact is this city is run by men who have little regard for how livable it
is for women and for families,'' said Astrid Gonzalez, leader of a local
grass-roots anti-violence group.

In many ways, Juarez was not made for women or children.
Its endless rows of factories, grimy bars and brothels are as inhospitable as
the blazing sun overhead. It is also home to some of Mexico's nastiest gangs
and drug-traffickers.

Most of the young women who work in the city's factories live in one of several
sprawling and remote neighbourhoods on the city's outskirts. They walk a few
miles (kilometers) alone before sunrise to the nearest bus station and are easy
prey.

Juarez has doubled in size in the past 15 years. Originally intended to employ
Mexican labourers returning from the United States, the factories ended up
attracting legions of young women from around the country searching for
independence.

Many of the young women, semiliterate and from dirt-poor villages in central
Mexico where a culture of machismo still prevails, enjoy their new freedom.
After work, many head to one of dozens of dance clubs that line downtown Juarez
and offer one of the few respites from boredom or work.

``Here, no one tells us what to do,'' said 17-year-old Guadalupe Rivera, who
left her home state of Durango three years ago to work at a local Phillips
factory and hangs out at a bar called ``Tuna Country,'' where a band plays
Polka.

The city police -- as well as other men in the city -- do not seem to share in
the women's sense of liberation. Police have repeatedly issued warnings to the
city's women not to ``dress provocatively'' and walk alone on city streets.

That kind of talk angers female lawmakers.

``The police behave as if the killings are the women's fault,'' said Laura
Iztel Castillo, a leftist federal deputy.

22:02 06-10-98

>Skip Horni

MO CAFEEN

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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Well, I have no details to add about the Juarez, Mexico situation, but just
wanted to say "Hi, Skip!" Welcome to the NG.

Charles J. "Skip" Horni

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Joe1orbit wrote
<I wrote>
> I thought El

> >Paso and
> >environs, to be a special case when it came to murders per capita.
> I.E.
> >extremely
> >low for whatever reason.
>
> I've never heard of El Paso, TX having any particular distinction
> for low
> murder rates.

First, Joe, thanks for the wealth of info. If I can find where I got my
information
about El Paso, I'll pass it along.

And thanks to Joe, and "Mo" for the welcome. I don't say much, but every

now and again, I'll jump in.

ThanksSkip Horni

Joe1orbit

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"Charles J. \"Skip\" Horni" <c...@skynet.be> Wrote:

>> I thought El
>
>> >Paso and
>> >environs, to be a special case when it came to murders per capita.
>> I.E.
>> >extremely
>> >low for whatever reason.

Joe1...@aol.com Wrote:

>> I've never heard of El Paso, TX having any particular distinction
>> for low
>> murder rates.

"Charles J. \"Skip\" Horni" <c...@skynet.be> Wrote:

>First, Joe, thanks for the wealth of info.

Hello Skip,

You're welcome.

> If I can find where I got my
>information
>about El Paso, I'll pass it along.

I'd appreciate that, but it's no big deal.

>And thanks to Joe, and "Mo" for the welcome. I don't say much, but every
>
>now and again, I'll jump in.

Please do. A man of few words is better than a man of no words, when it comes
to making Usenet posts. :)

I am of course a man of many strongly held and eagerly expressed opinions and
philosophies, as befits my arrogant and narcissistic personality. :)

>ThanksSkip Horni

No problem.

Take care, JOE

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