Vigilante Mother Gets Away With Murder
Bo Raxo
"If she hadn't reloaded that gun," said Carl Eppolito, a juror from
the second trial, "I would have let her walk."
Bo Raxo
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3685448&page=1
Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her Uncle Coy raped
her.
"I remember I had my purple Little Mermaid shirt on," she told ABC
News. "He told me to take my clothes off, and I said no, so he took
them off me."
She was 9 years old. Coy Hundley was drunk, Amanda said, but that
wasn't unusual. He would rape her again a few months later, she
testified in court.
Nearly five years later, in the fall of 2003, Amanda's mother,
Kimberly Cunningham, finally learned of the alleged attacks. What
happened next was the talk of Knoxville, Tenn., for years.
Kimberly got into her car and drove to the tool company where Hundley
worked. She called him out into the parking lot. Cunningham said that
she was praying he would deny the rape. Instead, she said Hundley, 39,
laughed at her.
"What are you going to do about it?" he allegedly said.
Kimberly shot him five times, reloaded the weapon and fired five more
rounds, killing him.
[...]
In her first trial in April 2005, a Knoxville jury acquitted her of
first degree murder, but deadlocked on second degree murder. In a
second trial in October 2005, the jury acquitted Kimberly of second
degree murder, but found her guilty of voluntary manslaughter. She was
sentenced to four years in prison, a sentence that was recently
reduced on appeal to six months in prison.
"If she hadn't reloaded that gun," said Carl Eppolito, a juror from
the second trial, "I would have let her walk."
For the tight-knit town of Knoxville, nestled in the shadow of the
Smoky Mountains, the case posed the thorniest of questions: What would
you do if you believed your child had been raped?
[...]
Stan Engel
"Bo Raxo" <crimene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "If she hadn't reloaded that gun," said Carl Eppolito, a
> juror from the second trial, "I would have let her walk."
That's interesting. Kimberly Cunningham would have gone free had she only
been satisfied with firing five bullets.
> Bo Raxo
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3685448&page=1
>
> Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her
> Uncle Coy raped her.
Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a total
fabrication.
> "I remember I had my purple Little Mermaid shirt on,"
> she told ABC News. "He told me to take my clothes
> off, and I said no, so he took them off me."
> She was 9 years old. Coy Hundley was drunk, Amanda
> said, but that wasn't unusual. He would rape her again a
> few months later, she testified in court.
Was Amanda telling the truth? Probably, but Kimberly Cunningham wasn't
entirely convinced.
> Nearly five years later, in the fall of 2003, Amanda's
> mother, Kimberly Cunningham, finally learned of the
> alleged attacks. What happened next was the talk of
> Knoxville, Tenn., for years.
> Kimberly got into her car and drove to the tool
> company where Hundley worked. She called him out
> into the parking lot. Cunningham said that she was
> praying he would deny the rape. Instead, she said
> Hundley, 39, laughed at her.
The Lord did not grant Kimberly's heartfelt prayer.
> "What are you going to do about it?" he allegedly said.
He might actually have said that. It's difficult to say since the
altercation took place in a parking lot where there would be no witnesses.
Kimberly saw to that.
Then again, Hundley may have said it not as an admission but to anger
Kimberly. Actually it seems not to be an admission at all. He admitted
nothing but asked "What are you going to do about it?" At least that's
Kimberly's recollection.
> Kimberly shot him five times, reloaded the weapon and fired five more
> rounds, killing him.
How long did it take from the time Kimberly drew out the gun until she fired
her last round? I would guess it took about three minutes.
> [...]
>
> In her first trial in April 2005, a Knoxville jury acquitted her of
> first degree murder, but deadlocked on second degree murder. In a
> second trial in October 2005, the jury acquitted Kimberly of second
> degree murder, but found her guilty of voluntary manslaughter. She was
> sentenced to four years in prison, a sentence that was recently
> reduced on appeal to six months in prison.
I wonder how much time she was in county jail and state prison in total.
> "If she hadn't reloaded that gun," said Carl Eppolito, a juror from
> the second trial, "I would have let her walk."
Yes, five bullets are an acceptable form of protest.
>
> For the tight-knit town of Knoxville, nestled in the shadow of the
> Smoky Mountains, the case posed the thorniest of questions: What would
> you do if you believed your child had been raped?
Well, what I would do is notify the police. In fact, that's exactly what
Kimberly Cunningham did. She had earlier notified police that Coy Hundley's
son had molested her own son Shane Cunningham as well as daughter Amanda
Cunningham. Apparently the police and/or prosecutors didn't believe the
story. That's when Kimberly bought her 5-shooter gun.
Another thing that Kimberly did was smash the windows in the car used by Coy
Hundley's son. Then, finally, she went to Coy Hundley's workplace and shot
him dead. It sure sounds like contrived bullshit to me.
The lesson here is that you can kill anyone you like as long as there's some
basis for a rape charge. All you have to do is claim you believed there was
a rape and you can murder people.
>
> [...]
Here is some of the ABC report that should not have been excised from the
original posting:
Kimberly had obtained a gun permit, taken lessons at a firing range and
carried a loaded gun in a black purse in her car since August 2003, when she
learned that Hundley's eldest son had allegedly molested her son Shane, now
15, as well as Amanda.
After Kimberly reported this to police, the Hundleys threatened her,
Kimberly testified. Hundley was the common-law husband of Kimberly's sister
Rhonda.
"I was scared of their family," Kimberly said. "They wanted me to drop it,
kept telling me that 'it's gonna come out of my a--' if I didn't drop it."
She said that Hundley and his friends repeatedly told her that they'd "never
find my body."
Feeling helpless and angry, she said, she smashed the windows in Hundley's
son's car. When she called Hundley at work, she testified, he told her the
vandalism made the two families "even."
Repeated attempts by ABC News to interview Hundley's son were unsuccessful.
Evelyn Hundley, Hundley's mother, denied that any molestation or rapes had
occurred.
"I just think it's unjust," she said. "I don't believe in the justice system
no more. Because she got away with cold-blooded murder."
Though Kimberly contacted police after her children told her they'd been
molested, no charges were filed against Hundley's eldest son, according to
Evelyn.
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Michael Snyder
"Pneuma" <frank...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:38:48 +0700, "Stan Engel" <Stan_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> >> Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her
> >> Uncle Coy raped her.
> >
> >Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a
total
> >fabrication.
>
>
> crime when accused. NOT.
And whose word do we have that he laughed?
Why, only that of the person who killed him.
But then again, "why would she lie" (tm)?
Stan Engel
"Pneuma" <frank...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:38:48 +0700, "Stan Engel" <Stan_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Uncle Coy raped her.
>>
>>Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a total
>>fabrication.
>
>
> about committing the crime when accused. NOT.
I don't know how a man is supposed to respond when his crackpot
sister-in-law makes idiotic accusations - similar to other accusations the
police had disbelieved. This is the same crackpot who smashed the windows of
Hundley's son's car.
I like Kimberly Cunningham's statement: "This little thing, she [daughter
Amanda] wasn't more than 42 pounds, and for someone to do such vulgar things
to her . there [sic] is simply no words to describe what happened . I just
totally lost control." Yup, she just lost control when she fired five
bullets, reloaded the gun and fired another five bullets at her common law
brother-in-law.
Kimberly Cunningham is murderous trash and you, Pneuma, are dogshit who
approves of such murderous trash. God willing one of your loved ones will be
gunned down by someone accusing him of rape. It doesn't matter if the
accusation is true or not.
Julie
Pneuma <frank...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:38:48 +0700, "Stan Engel" <Stan_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her
> >> Uncle Coy raped her.
> >
> >Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a total
> >fabrication.
>
>
> Yes the first thing an innocent person does is laugh about committing the
> crime when accused. NOT.
Are you insane, just very very stupid, or retarded? My ex boyfriend
accuses me of crazy insane things all the time and I laugh right in his
face. "What, you think when you were at work I snuck into your house to
steal a shirt so I could get your smell because I missed you?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" I laugh my ass off at the crazy bastard.
So what is it, are you insane, very stupid, or retarded?
Bo Raxo
> "Pneuma" <frank.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fednc...@news3.newsguy.com...
>
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:38:48 +0700, "Stan Engel" <Stan_en...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > >> Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her
> > >> Uncle Coy raped her.
>
> > >Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a
> total
> > >fabrication.
>
> > Yes the first thing an innocent person does is laugh about committing the
> > crime when accused. NOT.
>
> And whose word do we have that he laughed?
>
> Why, only that of the person who killed him.
>
> But then again, "why would she lie" (tm)?
But Michael, it's not like there's some kind of advanced technology
available that would allow her to carry a device to record sound,
perhaps hidden in her pocket, and catch any confession or
incriminating statement to take to police. Why, no, the only recourse
was a gun...
What amazes me is the primitive notion that somehow one crime
justifies another. It's the same "logic" that tells whack jobs in
Muslim countries that their raped daughter should be killed to
preserve the family "honor", or whack jobs in Christian countries who
think bombing a gay disco is God's will. 'Cause, see, killing when
it's not neccesary for self defense is murder, and why two juries had
a problem with that just disgusts me.
Michael Snyder
Ah, but Bo, the juries' confusion is understandable, even inevitable.
You did not finish the statement of principal. It has always been, and
still is the policy that killing when it's not necessary for self defense
is murder, EXCEPT when "our cause is just". As it is when
* we invade another country because they've done something wrong
(even if only in our imaginations)
* we execute a criminal because he's done something wrong
(even if the concept of "reasonable doubt" is a little flexible)
* we excuse a woman for killing her rapist
* we excuse a parent for killing the supposed rapist of a child
Especially in light of the last two, how can you question
someone who excuses an anti-abortionist for killing an
abortionist, etc? After all, if one person's idea of a just
cause is valid, then everybody's is.
Bo Raxo
> "Bo Raxo" <crimenewscen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
And of course we all need guns, in case a few of us decide the
government has become tyrranical and we want to start committing
terrorist acts to stop 'em.
Grrr.....
The whole notion that killing is wrong except when we figure the
targets are bad people is firmly rooted in Christianity. The Old
Testament's "Thou Shalt Not Kill" only applied to one's fellow Jews,
you were free to kill heathens, and indeed the OT is chock full of
examples of genocide with El Supremo's blessings. Heck, in some cases
they killed not only all the men, women, and children, they even wiped
out the farm animals of the conquered people. Can't be eating eggs
from heathen chickens.
My latest pet peeve (oh, there are so many, I know) is that the
Supreme Court requires four votes to decide to review a death penalty
case (or any other kind of case).
But it takes *five* votes to grant a stay of execution.
There have been recent cases where the court decided the issues in the
case merited putting it on the calendar, but there wasn't the fifth
vote to actually let the defendant stay alive long enough to litigate
the issue. The irony of rendering habeas corpus moot by killing the
applicant. How insane is that?!?
Bo Raxo
Messalina
>
> news:fednc...@news3.newsguy.com...
>
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:38:48 +0700, "Stan Engel" <Stan_en...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > >> Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her
> > >> Uncle Coy raped her.
>
> > >Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a
> total
> > >fabrication.
>
> > Yes the first thing an innocent person does is laugh about committing the
> > crime when accused. NOT.
>
> And whose word do we have that he laughed?
>
> Why, only that of the person who killed him.
>
> But then again, "why would she lie" (tm)?
I had a pedophile uncle. He tried to pull his crap on me, but even at
9 I was having none of it. I once sat in a tree for hours to ensure
I was no longer alone with him. He was eventually exposed as having
had sex with his adopted daughter for years. His unrepentance
excuse? "Its not like she was blood." These fuckers are shameless.
Seriously, I remember my uncle standing at the foot of the tree I had
climbed to escape him telling me I was hurting his feelings.
Fortunately, my dear mother was a cold-blooded eastern european and
such guilt trips were lost on me.
It turned out later that he had been abused my older half sisters
before dad married my mom and she made him bring the girls home.
Fortunately for uncle he died painfully (yay) of stomach cancer before
my dad found out what he did to his older girls. I can't imagine what
dad would have done to him, but he being sicilan, it would not have
been pretty.
Mez
Messalina
> In article <fednc102...@news3.newsguy.com>,
>
> Pneuma <frank.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:38:48 +0700, "Stan Engel" <Stan_en...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Amanda Cunningham said she vividly recalls the day her
> > >> Uncle Coy raped her.
>
> > >Amanda might even be telling the truth. Alternatively, it could be a total
> > >fabrication.
>
> > Yes the first thing an innocent person does is laugh about committing the
> > crime when accused. NOT.
>
> Are you insane, just very very stupid, or retarded? My ex boyfriend
> accuses me of crazy insane things all the time and I laugh right in his
> face. "What, you think when you were at work I snuck into your house to
> steal a shirt so I could get your smell because I missed you?
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" I laugh my ass off at the crazy bastard.
>
> So what is it, are you insane, very stupid, or retarded?
Oh my dear. Holy hell. Who is more crazy, the crazy person or the
person who stays with them?
Mez
Michael Snyder
> On Oct 9, 2:54 pm, "Michael Snyder" <msny...@socmen.org> wrote:
> > "Bo Raxo" <crimenewscen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1191957973.7...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >
Guns don't kill people -- WMD's kill people.
> The whole notion that killing is wrong except when we figure the
> targets are bad people is firmly rooted in Christianity.
Err, well, Christianity has roots in it, but did not originate it.
The "except" clause is almost certainly as old as the "murder
is wrong" concept. Culturally, you really can't have one without
the other, or your culture will be wiped out by other competing
cultures.
> The Old
> Testament's "Thou Shalt Not Kill" only applied to one's fellow Jews,
> you were free to kill heathens, and indeed the OT is chock full of
> examples of genocide with El Supremo's blessings. Heck, in some cases
> they killed not only all the men, women, and children, they even wiped
> out the farm animals of the conquered people. Can't be eating eggs
> from heathen chickens.
That's amusing -- cite? I think the norm was just to kill the men,
and adopt the women and children (and presumably the valuable
farm animals) into the conquering tribe.
Anyway, Jahweh is hardly the first deity to condone murder, war,
slavery, rape etc.
And don't you dare invoke the mythical Matriarchal Goddess...