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Boy who kidnapped & tortured 13 y.o.boy in 1995 is suspected of torturing & killing another boy,a year earlier,in WI

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Joe1orbit

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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Hello,

Over in Wisconsin, a 19 year old fellow named Joseph Clark has been ordered
by a judge to pay $21 million dollars in damages to a 13 year old boy that he
kidnapped and took to his home. Joseph deliberately broke both of Thaddius
Phillips's legs, then tortured him by stomping down on the broken legs. He
also bit the boy, and locked him in a closet. After being held captive for
nearly two days, Thaddius was able to drag himself down the stairs and use a
telephone to call police for help.

This incident occured in July of 1995, so Joseph was probably only 17 years
old when he kinapped and tortured this boy, who was apparently 13 years old at
the time of the abduction. Joseph was found guilty last year of attempted
first degree murder and other charges, in this case. But it was until the day
before yesterday that the judge imposed this 21 million dollar against Joseph.

Joseph is penniless and serving a 40 year prison sentence for last year's
conviction. But this pathetically moralistic judge still imposed a 21 million
judgement agaionst Joseph, declaring that due to the "infamy" of the case, it
is possible that "media coverage", I.E. the writing of a book or making of a
movie about the case, might result in Joseph making some money.

I think the entire "Son of Sam" law is OUTRAGEOUS. When a person commits a
violent crime, your society should be allowed to seek ONE form of punishment
against him. EITHER a prison term, OR a monetary fine. But NOT both things
together, ESPECIALLY not when the criminal did not take or steal any money
from his victim.

In this case, 17 year old Joseph kidnapped & tortured 13 year old Thaddius.
Is it fair for the judge to declare that Joseph should have to pay the ACTUAL
medical bills that 13 year old Thaddius incurred as a result of Joseph
breaking his legs? Yes, that is fair. The amount of money would be less than
$20,000, I'm sure, in total medical expenses. So, a judgement against Joseph
for that amount of money would have been fair and logical. But 21 million
dollars? That is INSANE. There should be NO "punitive" money damages awarded,
in any case where the defendent is ALSO sentenced to prison.

Anyway, there is a very interesting fact given in this article concerning
Joseph. Back in 1994, a year before Joseph kidnapped and tortured Thaddius,
the body of a 14 year old boy was found in the Wisconsin River. Both of the
boy's LEGS WERE BROKEN! Police initially ruled that death to have been
accidental, but a year later, after arresting Joseph in connection with the
kidnapping and leg breaking of 13 year old Thaddius, they REOPENED their
investigation into that 1994 death. And they are now saying that Joseph, who
was only 16 years old back in 1994, DID break the legs and kill 14 year old
Christian Steiner, back in 1994! Fascinating!

Joseph has NOT yet been tried in court for the killing of Christian, but
prosecutors say they do plan to bring him to trial in that murder case.

So, it would seem that young Joseph had a desire/urge/compulsion to break the
legs of boys. I'd be a lot more interested if his compulsion involved breaking
bones in the FEET of girls, but that's just me. Different strokes for
different folks. Ya gotta admit, it's pretty impressive for a 16 year old boy
to abduct a 14 year old, break his legs, then drag him to a river, throw him
in, and for the police to not even rule the case as a homicide! Joseph must
have used good tactical skills that time. And if it wasn't for Joseph deciding
to abduct/kill another boy a year later, and BOTCHING the job by allowing the
boy to reach a telephone and call cops, it is 99.9999% CERTAIN that the 1994
killing of Christian would NEVER have even been reviewed or reopened by
police, or determined to be a homicide.

Take care, JOE

The following appears courtesy of today's Associated Press news wire:

BARABOO, Wis. (AP) - A teen-ager convicted of abducting a 13-year-old boy,
breaking his legs and locking him in a closet for days was ordered to pay $21
million in damages to his victim.

A judge ordered Joseph Clark, 19, to pay $31,566 in medical damages, $6 million
in compensatory damages and $15 million in punitive damages to Thadius
Phillips, who was abducted from his home in July 1995.

Although Clark is penniless and serving a 40-year sentence, he may make money
off the case, the judge said.

``Given the sensational nature of this case, it is entirely possible that the
defendant could reap some financial gain, through media coverage in the
future,'' Judge Virginia Wolfe wrote.

The ruling was made Monday and released Tuesday.

Phillips testified that Clark kept him captive for 43 hours in Clark's home and
broke his legs before he was able to summon help by dragging himself
downstairs and calling police. He suffered fractures to both ankles, his left
knee and his right upper leg, as well as black eyes, bruises and bites.

Phillips said Clark was alternately cruel and kind, breaking his legs, then
trying to ``fix'' them, stomping on the injuries, then bringing food.

Clark was convicted last year of attempted first-degree intentional homicide,
among other crimes. Phillips also filed a civil suit against him.

Clark filed motions Tuesday for a new trial and his lawyer asked a judge to
throw out the convictions of attempted homicide, mayhem and causing mental
harm to a child, saying the prosecutors didn't provide enough evidence to
support them.

Clark is also to stand trial in the death of 14-year-old Christian Steiner,
whose body was found in 1994 in the Wisconsin River. His legs were broken.
Steiner's death was considered accidental until Clark was accused of torturing Phillips.

AP-NY-10-14-97

Joe1orbit

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Oct 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/15/97
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Hello,

Here is a slightly more detailed article on this interesting case out of
Wisconsin, where 19 year old Joseph Clark is about to go on trial for
kidnapping, torturing, and killing a 14 year old boy, back in 1994, when
Joseph himself was only 16 years old. He has already been found guilty of
kidnapping and breaking the legs/torturing a 13 year old boy, Thaddius
Phillips, a year later, in 1995. Thaddius managed to break out of a closet,
drag himself with two broken legs to a phone, and call police, thus avoiding
his own likely murder at the hands of Joseph.

Not a lot of additional information in this news report, but we do learn that
during the 43 hours of torture, as Joseph was breaking Thaddius's legs and
then stomping on the broken bones, Joseph VERBALLY told Thadius that he
ENJOYED breaking bones, and that he had broken the bones of a previous victim!
At least Joseph was in touch with his True Reality. He knew what he liked and
enjoyed doing, and was happy to tell his victim this fact. I also think that
because Joseph did tell Thaddius that he had broken the bones of a previous
victim, it appears certain that Joseph DID fully intend to KILL Thaddius after
having his bone breaking/torture fun. It would be totally irrational of Joseph
to tell his victim that he had previously tortured another person, unless he
FULLY intended to kill Thaddius and thus never give him a chance to inform the
police of a possible previous victim that he had killed.

Once again, you see the importance of TACTICS. It was simply poor tactics on
Joseph's part, that allowed Thaddius to break out of a closet, drag himself to
a telephone, and call 911.

Take care, JOE

The following appears courtesy of the 10/15/97 online edition of The
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel newspaper:

Tortured teenager awarded $6 million

By Jo Sandin
of the Journal Sentinel staff

October 15, 1997

A Baraboo teenager who escaped with two broken legs from the closet where his
kidnapper had locked him was awarded more than $6 million in damages this week
from the man convicted of torturing him.

Sauk County Circuit Judge Virginia A. Wolfe awarded Thadius F. Phillips, 15,
and his parents, Donald and Connie Phillips, $31,566 in medical damages and $6
million in compensatory damages for pain and suffering from Joseph C. Clark.

"The question is how do you collect it?" said Thomas M. Jacobson, who acted as
guardian in the suit for Thadius. "Now I have to figure out how I can possibly
convert the judgment into a money reality."

Wolfe addressed that question in her judgment against Clark, 20, who is serving
a 40-year sentence at Green Bay Correctional Institution for abducting Thadius
on July 28, 1995.

He also is being prosecuted in the death of Christian Steiner, 14, of Baraboo,
whose body was found in the Wisconsin River in Columbia County in 1994. After
Thadius reported his own assault, Christian's body was exhumed and found to
have similar injuries.

In her decision, Wolfe found that Clark had no assets.

"However," the judge wrote, "given the sensational nature of this case, it is


entirely possible that the defendant could reap some financial gain, through

media coverage in the future."

Jacobson said: "In the real world the sicker and more disgusting the act, the
greater the media feeding frenzy. Actually, this suit ensures that Joseph
Clark can't exploit the issue for his own personal profit."

A jury ruled in September that Clark was sane when he tortured Thadius by
jumping on his legs and breaking his bones.

At the trial, Thadius testified that Clark forced him to go to Clark's house,
where he was held captive for 43 hours. During Thadius' captivity, Clark
jumped on his legs and broke his bones. Thadius suffered fractures to both


ankles, his left knee and his right upper leg, as well as black eyes, bruises
and bites.

During Thadius' ordeal, Clark said he enjoyed breaking bones and had broken the
bones of a previous victim, Thadius testified.

"Thad has been traumatized by this, and he will never forget what happened,"
Jacobson said. "However, he literally saved himself. He broke through the
closet door, dragged himself to a phone and dialed 911. But for him, the facts
in this other case would never have surfaced."

OOOHLALAA

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In article <19971015142...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
joe1...@aol.com (Joe1orbit) writes:

> I think the entire "Son of Sam" law is OUTRAGEOUS. When a person commits a
> violent crime, your society should be allowed to seek ONE form of punishment
> against him. EITHER a prison term, OR a monetary fine. But NOT both things
> together, ESPECIALLY not when the criminal did not take or steal any money
> from his victim.
>
> In this case, 17 year old Joseph kidnapped & tortured 13 year old Thaddius.
> Is it fair for the judge to declare that Joseph should have to pay the
>ACTUAL
> medical bills that 13 year old Thaddius incurred as a result of Joseph
> breaking his legs? Yes, that is fair. The amount of money would be less than
> $20,000, I'm sure, in total medical expenses. So, a judgement against Joseph
> for that amount of money would have been fair and logical. But 21 million
> dollars? That is INSANE. There should be NO "punitive" money damages
>awarded,
> in any case where the defendent is ALSO sentenced to prison.


Joe, I must say you are wrong in this case. ESPECIALLY given the nature
of this case. Why would you want this Joseph guy to be able to make money
off of his horrendous crimes? Could you imagine if you were held captive
in a closet for 2 days, had your legs broken and stomped on, bitten, and
tortured the way this boy was? This boy certainly deserves compensation.
He is going to remember this for the rest of his life. Surely he will
never be the same again. And there is no way this guy who tortued this boy
deserves any compensation for the crimes he committed, especially monetarly.

Shannon
OOOHLALAA

Joe1orbit

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Oct 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/19/97
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In article <19971015142...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
joe1...@aol.com (Joe1orbit) writes:

>> I think the entire "Son of Sam" law is OUTRAGEOUS. When a person commits a
>> violent crime, your society should be allowed to seek ONE form of
>punishment
>> against him. EITHER a prison term, OR a monetary fine. But NOT both things
>> together, ESPECIALLY not when the criminal did not take or steal any money
>> from his victim.
>>
>> In this case, 17 year old Joseph kidnapped & tortured 13 year old
>Thaddius.
>> Is it fair for the judge to declare that Joseph should have to pay the
>>ACTUAL
>> medical bills that 13 year old Thaddius incurred as a result of Joseph
>> breaking his legs? Yes, that is fair. The amount of money would be less
>than
>> $20,000, I'm sure, in total medical expenses. So, a judgement against
>Joseph
>> for that amount of money would have been fair and logical. But 21 million
>> dollars? That is INSANE. There should be NO "punitive" money damages
>>awarded,
>> in any case where the defendent is ALSO sentenced to prison.

oooh...@aol.com (OOOHLALAA) Wrote:

>Joe, I must say you are wrong in this case. ESPECIALLY given the nature
>of this case.

Hello Shannon,

You have a differing opinion on the right of a victim to collect punitive
damages against his assailant. And you have an absolute right to your opinion.
That does not make me "wrong".

> Why would you want this Joseph guy to be able to make money
>off of his horrendous crimes?

Because this is a free market economy and anyone who writes a book or sells a
movie script, for WHATEVER reason, is entitled to keep the money that he
LEGALLY earns, via the writing of the book or making of the movie. Murder is
illegal. Writing a book is legal. Therefore ALL writers should receive 100% of
the monetary profits, less expenses, agent fees, printing costs, etc... that
the written book generates.

> Could you imagine if you were held captive
>in a closet for 2 days, had your legs broken and stomped on, bitten, and
>tortured the way this boy was?

No, I can't imagine having this done to me. I can imagine doing it to someone
else.

> This boy certainly deserves compensation.

The only compensation he deserves is for the actual treatment of the injuries
he suffered. If he desires compensatory funds, he should allow his attacker to
go free and get a job, at which point he might deserve 10-15% of his
attacker's monthly take-home pay. If his attacker is imprisoned for the crime,
then the boy deserves no monetary compensation, beyond ACTUAL medical expenses
incurred as a result of the attack.

>He is going to remember this for the rest of his life. Surely he will
>never be the same again.

Every incident that occurs affects every person's life, to some degree. Your
society does not have the right to impose a financial penalty on top of a
criminal conviction that results in jail time, IMNSVHO.

> And there is no way this guy who tortued this boy
>deserves any compensation for the crimes he committed, especially monetarly.

In a free market economy, all money that is legally earned belongs to the
earner. If Joseph writes a book, or aids in the production of a screenplay
that is made into a movie, he is entitled to FULL payment for his deeds, since
these deeds are LEGAL.

Take care, JOE

>Shannon
>OOOHLALAA

Joe1orbit

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Oct 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/21/97
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phyat...@aol.com (PHyatt1962) Wrote:

>If someone says that a 17 year old can kidnap, brutalize, and break the legs
>of
> a 13 year old and can lawfully make money off the crime; the person is not
> only wrong, they are immoral.

Hello Peter,

It was I who said this. And I consider myself amoral, rather than immoral.
There is a difference between the two philosophies.

>Where does some of this logic come from?

It comes from my insightful and amoral mind, which is highly intelligent and
unbiased and unbrainwashed, unlike the minds of 99.5% of the irrational and
hypocritically moralistic humans who infest your society.

Your society reaps what it sows. It chooses to create human predators, and I
choose to embrace the right of those created predators to stalk YOUR world,
and claim their justifiable vengeance, as they, and they ALONE, deem
appropriate and see fit.

Take care, JOE

>Peter


PHyatt1962

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If someone says that a 17 year old can kidnap, brutalize, and break the legs of
a 13 year old and can lawfully make money off the crime; the person is not
only wrong, they are immoral.

Where does some of this logic come from?

Peter

E

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Mar 29, 2014, 6:45:29 PM3/29/14
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I agree with Shannon. Anyone who has something like this done to them has gone through unimaginable physical and emotional trauma. Almost being murdered is certainly worth 21 million dollars. That boy deserves every penny. And no, Joseph should not be allowed to keep any money he makes off the writing of any book. All the money should go to the victim. Although that almost certainly ensures that he will not write that book, so maybe he should be allowed to keep 15%. People should not make money off their crimes. If I almost murdered YOU, would you want me to be able to make money by writing about it? I sincerely doubt it and if you say yes you are only saying that because you want to be right. Or you like to argue. And the fact that you said you couldn't imagine having this crime done to you, but you could imagine doing it to somebody else? What the HELL is wrong with you, you sick bastard? You need some serious help. Someone like you should not be on the streets. Someone who thinks murderers should profit from writing about their victims and who could imagine murdering someone yourself.....You are one sick son of a bitch. Go to HELL.

E

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On Saturday, March 29, 2014 5:45:29 PM UTC-5, E wrote:
> I agree with Shannon. Anyone who has something like this done to them has gone through unimaginable physical and emotional trauma. Almost being murdered is certainly worth 21 million dollars. That boy deserves every penny. And no, Joseph should not be allowed to keep any money he makes off the writing of any book. All the money should go to the victim. Although that almost certainly ensures that he will not write that book, so maybe he should be allowed to keep 15%. People should not make money off their crimes. If I almost murdered YOU, would you want me to be able to make money by writing about it? I sincerely doubt it and if you say yes you are only saying that because you want to be right. Or you like to argue. And the fact that you said you couldn't imagine having this crime done to you, but you could imagine doing it to somebody else? What the HELL is wrong with you, you sick bastard? You need some serious help. Someone like you should not be on the streets. Someone who thinks murderers should profit from writing about their victims and who could imagine murdering someone yourself.....You are one sick son of a bitch. Go to HELL. And there is a monetary value for physical and emotional trauma, so just being sentenced to pay the medical bills would NOT be sufficient. 21 million is certainly reasonable and just.

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Joe, Have you seen the interview that Thadius gave regarding his kidnapping and torture? I feel that is you did watch his interview (I Survived Season 5 Episode 7) then you would completely and utterly agree that Thadius deserves retribution, payment, justice.....he did more than just break his legs....of all of the episodes that I have watched, all of the true crime shows that I have watched, all of the stories...everything I have heard this story hit me really hard at the amount of psychotic torture this 12-year-old child endured just because the crazy 17-year-old enjoyed the sound of breaking bones.....he brutalized this young man and you can see in the young man's face that he either relives it continuously and suffered from extreme PTSD or does drugs to escape. His face, his words, his hurt made me cry and begin to pray for him immediately. I continue to pray for him. I haven't been effected by someone's story this deeply before.

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:21:13 PM10/25/14
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You are a complete moron. First of all, get your facts straight. Second of all, let's hand you over to someone against your will and let them torture you like this sadistic, psychopath did to this innocent 12 year old and see how you feel about the order of prison and money then. That douche bag doesn't deserve a penny of anything made off of this story and a lifetime in prison is too short a punishment. $20 MM isn't enough to give this boy (now man) back what he lost that day at the hands of an evil man. I couldn't even get past the first few of your paragraphs as a wall of stupidity stopped me. You are a jack ass. The end

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Oct 25, 2014, 12:49:33 PM10/25/14
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Spoken like a true criminal...or a slimy defense atty. No matter what anyone says to you it won't make a difference because you're skewed and my guess is you've missed out on the best thing in life and the One who redeems all and makes new. Best of luck living with a messed up mind, must be awful.

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R u insane u stupid ..... It's been over twenty years since your post but he shouldn't be punished with jail and a fine? Cause he didn't steal. U stupid ignorant person. He just mangled his legs and ruined his life. He deserves death If he ever makes money he doesn't deserve it. It should go to the harmed boy

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Jan 22, 2015, 8:11:37 AM1/22/15
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U r fudging stupid. Ha he deserves the money then he need to turn around and pay the victim for what he did u stupid fuck

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I just saw the epesode of i survived that talks about thadd and what had happened to him back in 1995 is unfucking believable!! I cannot even absorb the idea of having people that evil living around us in this world! I am almost sure that he didnt live a normal life since then cuz that fucked up criminal took away all the innocence this kid had. And u now telling us he doesnt have to pay?!!!! R u out of ur mind?! This joe clarck needs some one to do to him the same exact thing that he did to thadd and it is not even enough. I'm not american and english is not my mother toungue so excuse me for the grammatical and spelling mistakes. Peace

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Aug 19, 2015, 4:49:21 PM8/19/15
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I think you are completely wrong. This young man he tortured is maimed for life, will never be able to hold a normal job, and will have on-going medical expenses for LIFE.

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Joe, if you're still on here, I've got to say what you've said makes you look and sound like a complete piece of garbage.

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Thadius is amazing and brave at 12 years old surviving this and escaping. Joseph Clark is a pathetic pervert and coward.

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Jun 23, 2017, 11:45:56 PM6/23/17
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Hey Joe,

Once you are able to imagine having been in the victims' shoes, then you will be able to see a little clearer. Hope this helps you, xo.

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Aug 18, 2017, 6:05:23 PM8/18/17
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Joseph should have his legs, ankles and knees broken..

Just watched I survived in the uk, this scumbag deserves more than the punishment given.

And anyone who thinks differently needs to check their mental state!

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Nov 18, 2017, 12:21:42 AM11/18/17
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You might feel different if you were held captive and tortured.

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Dec 8, 2017, 3:48:37 PM12/8/17
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I know I'm way late to this discussion but I just finished watching Thad's eps of "I survived" & found this discussion when I was searching to find more details on this case. I can't believe what I've read here, it literally makes me ill, & not just your opinion that he should either be imprisoned OR made to pay this man more than the medical bills (to date at time of judgement)but it makes me nauseated to have read where you stated that you couldn't imagine yourself as the victim but rather as the evil person doing this horrific act. it's scary thinking you are on the streets. I'm hoping that you are actually in prison. I fear that if you can see yourself torturing a child in this manner that you attempted to either copy it or that you are actually the Joe in this case. it scares me to think that there are victims that were never found or will be victims in the future.

now that that is off my chest I'm curious about a federal law I remember hearing about back in the 80s. it was supposed to actually be illegal for ppl convicted of violent crimes to profit in ANY way from those horrific crimes. they could write about it or the media could interview them etc but they could not make money from it. did i misunderstand or remember incorrectly what I'd learned back in the years before Google & the internet or was that law real back then but has been revised or stricken from the books since? obviously it's now legal or the judgement couldn't have been set. I personally think the law should be that a con should be allowed to earn money from their story but the majority of that income should automatically be given to all their victims or the families. the con should be allowed to earn the bare minimum in order to have a reason to tell their side since most likely unless they have evolved during their incarceration & developed a conscious & remorse they won't be interested in making money for others esp the victims. but that money that they earn should be used to help support a family they've had to leave behind with some being put "on their books" with limits on what it can be used for. they don't need tto be compensated for their crimes. I also feel that these ppl should not be made famous for these crimes. they should not be allowed to use their real names & unless needed to catch & prosecute them the police & media should not release their real names. too many ppl commit heinous crimes to get their moment in the limelight.

yes I have a lot of opinions on this & I'm sorry for my long message. I'm not sure anyone will read this so many years after the fact but I'm sure I'm not the only one to have seen the episode recently & while falling down the internet rabbit hole will come across this site whether for the first time or drawn back in.

Beaver Fever

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Dec 8, 2017, 4:30:14 PM12/8/17
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And now you can remove the hook from your mouth and bow down before the greatness that was the greatest internet troll of all time, still reeling people in nearly two decades later.

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Beaver Deaver mamma ducks my cocktail all night bitch!

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Hello all. I'm guessing that no one on here has realized Joe1orbit and jen1orbit is actually a convicted serial killer named Edward Wayne Edwards. He is dead now but look him up. Also check on Edward Wayne Edwards-serial killer on facebook. There is alot of information about him writing on this site about a lot of serial murders. Its truly creepy if you see some of the things he said. His daughter was the one to turn him in. She says he showed much interest in crime and would often insert himself into police investigations. He really thought he was the smartest man alive. Very scary.

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May 26, 2018, 1:19:06 PM5/26/18
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Ho.ly.shit. the twists and turns on this thread alone. . .

Beaver Fever

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On Sunday, January 21, 2018 at 8:43:26 PM UTC-8, nicoletho...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello all. I'm guessing that no one on here has realized Joe1orbit and jen1orbit is actually a convicted serial killer named Edward Wayne Edwards. He is dead now but look him up. Also check on Edward Wayne Edwards-serial killer on facebook. There is alot of information about him writing on this site about a lot of serial murders. Its truly creepy if you see some of the things he said. His daughter was the one to turn him in. She says he showed much interest in crime and would often insert himself into police investigations. He really thought he was the smartest man alive. Very scary.

no he's not

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hey beaver fever are you the smartest person alive?

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I hope some wacko breaks your jawbone. Sick bastard, you have some weird admiration for this faggot.

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We haven’t heard from Joe in 20 years.

Don’t waste your breath on him.

Valerie Dahl

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> in any case where the defendent is ALSO sentenced to prison......
>
Judge Virginia Wolfe wrote.
>
> Clark is also to stand trial in the death of 14-year-old Christian Steiner,
> whose body was found in 1994 in the Wisconsin River. His legs were broken.
> Steiner's death was considered accidental until Clark was accused of torturing Phillips.
> AP-NY-10-14-97
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So many inaccuracies. Thad's body was so damaged that he required many surgeries over the next few years. $20k wouldn't cover more than one of those. Joe Clark's victim, Thad, was kidnapped and abused in monstrous ways over 2 days. This kidnapper's plan was to hold him longer so he could inflict even more pain on Thad by breaking even more bones than the many he already had. During the 2 days, he also broke the boy's ribs by jumping on them, causing life-threatening internal bleeding. Of course, this was after inflicting similar injuries a year before on a boy he murdered by throwing the broken-up kid in a river (broken legs, arms, and more make it impossible to swim to save yourself.)

Those who believe both prison AND a fine to be paid if he profited from his brutality are too much punishment. In fact, too much punishment for this deranged murderer that his sentencing judge is said to be "pathetically moralistic". Joe Clark is a prime example of why decades imprisoned should be followed by a large fine hanging over his head. He could still write a book such as "Why I love Breaking Bones; Confessions of a kidnapper, torture expert, and murderer". If he did, then certainly every penny should go to the victim(s).

I prefer to live in a world where sickos like Clark are locked tightly away from the rest of society. And, if he ever gets paroled from 100 years +life, good luck surviving on nothing. Appropriate, considering the lifetime of pain, agony and grief he left in the wake of his crimes.

Susan Cohen

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Jun 5, 2021, 3:55:58 PM6/5/21
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I'm new to this case and am wondering, were these boys White? If so,
lock Joseph Clark in the deepest throes of Millhaven Institution for
eternity and allow him to be a rape toy for all the negro inmates. Now
if these were colored boys or indians, I say 5 years probation with
some community service would suffice, Justice must be served

Peeler

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Jun 5, 2021, 4:39:47 PM6/5/21
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2021 15:55:53 -0400, Loose Sphincter, the unhappily married
nazi homo, FORGING as "Susan Cohen", whined again:

> I'm new to this case

Which doesn't prevent you from demonstrating, yet again, what a sick
deranged asshole you are, Loose Sphincter. <BG>

> and am wondering, were these boys White? If so,
> lock Joseph Clark in the deepest throes of Millhaven Institution for
> eternity and allow him to be a rape toy for all the negro inmates. Now
> if these were colored boys or indians, I say 5 years probation with
> some community service would suffice, Justice must be served

See? LOL

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Greg Carr

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Jun 5, 2021, 6:32:53 PM6/5/21
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> Clark is also to stand trial in the death of 14-year-old Christian Steiner,
> whose body was found in 1994 in the Wisconsin River. His legs were broken.
> Steiner's death was considered accidental until Clark was accused of torturing Phillips.
> AP-NY-10-14-97

I have been reading this newsgroup for over 22 years and I don't remember this joeorbit person probably because I kill filed the evil, creep quickly at the time.

Help Me

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Feb 1, 2023, 6:07:49 PM2/1/23
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You're a moron.
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