Child sexual abuse runs rampant in Australia
Joe1orbit
Hello,
Here's an interesting report on how Australian society treats and reacts
to child sexual abuse. Just as in other nations, Australia considers
children to be less than human, and not entitled to any of the same legal
protections that adults are entitled to.
We learn here that more than 300 pedophiles, EACH of whom having
sexually abused OVER 150 children, could very well be operating in ONE
State alone, Queensland, within the country of Australia. The report goes
on to state that planeloads of young boys are flown in from the
Philipines, in order to satisy the sexual desires of these pedophiles.
That makes sense, because while society truly does not consider ANY
children to be fully human, it does grant a tiny bit of humanity to it's
OWN nation's children. Thus, the hard core pedophile is better off
IMPORTING foreign children, and abusing them, because their status as BOTH
foreigners and children renders them far less human than native Australian
children are, in the view of the cultural and judicial system.
We learn that the average prison sentence in Australia for all people
convicted of raping a child, is 18-24 months. A nicely illustrative
example of exacly the type of value that society places upon the life and
soul and sanctity of children. This report estimates, that in the State of
Queensland alone, 420,000 children have been sexually abused, one out of
every 4 girls, and one out of every 11 boys. Mind you, we are not talking
about abuse in general, but very specifically, SEXUAL abuse.
This report also states that 70% of all mental patients in Queensland
are KNOWN to have been sexually abused, presumably during their
childhoods, although this is not made explicitly clear in this article.
I'm not at all surprised by such a statistic. Child abuse results in all
sorts of severe personality defects, including murder, suicide, and
naturally, mental disturbances that require confinement or medication.
We also learn that investigators, in the course of their probe, managed
to come across an actual snuff film, which shows a child being sodomized,
disembowelled, and then killed, and that this snuff film was viewed by and
circulated among, at least a few people. I wish I could get my hands on
this film, but I venture to guess that the police are holding on to it.
Who knows, perhaps a bootleg copy will somehow manage to find it's way
into underground circulation.
Take care, JOE
The following appears courtesy of today's Agence France-Presse news
wire:
Australian authorities accused of failing to attack child abusers
Agence France-Presse
Tue, 19 Aug 1997
BRISBANE, Australia, Aug 19 (AFP) - A hardcore group of 300 paedophiles
could each have claimed 150 victims in the Australian state of Queensland,
according to an official report released here Tuesday.
Plane loads of Filipino boys were also being flown into the state for the
gratification of the paedophiles, it added.
The report, by the state Children's Commission, found a long-standing lack
of official response by the authorities to child sex abuse or to
allegations the abusers had been protected by police.
It came amid rising public anger over the extent of child abuse in
Australia and follows evidence to a royal commission in the neighbouring
state of New South Wales revealing decades of cover-ups, incompetence and
official indifference to such crimes.
Two years of royal commission hearings also produced evidence of
widespread paedophilia in schools and welfare departments.
A political campaign was launched in Sydney last week to demand tougher
penalties for abusers after a Supreme Court jury acquitted a former police
officer who admitted killing an alleged child rapist.
Australian courts still routinely impose jail sentences of 18 months or
two years for child rape.
The author of the Queensland report, Children's Commissioner Norm Alford,
Tuesday said plane loads of Filipino boys were being flown to popular
Australian tourist resorts to satisfy the lusts of wealthy paedophiles.
"The allegations are that there is a paedophile network of rather wealthy
business people flying in plane loads of these young boys," Alford told
ABC radio.
The boys were taken from Brisbane to the Great Barrier Reef's Whitsunday
Islands for the sexual gratification of paedophiles.
They were then taken to the popular Gold Coast tourist resort, from where
they were flown back to the Philippines. One of the boys was allegedly put
back on a plane with injuries which required him to wear tampons.
Alford's report, tabled in Queensland's state parliament after an
eight-month investigation, estimated that across the state some 420,000
children had been sexually abused -- one-in-four girls and one-in-11 boys
by the age of 18.
It described paedophilia as a social scourge, with 70 percent of all
mental patients known to have been sexually abused.
The police and the state crime watchdog, the Criminal Justice Commission
(CJC), were criticised for failing to actively investigate the problem.
"The CJC seems to have focused on its responsibilities for organised crime
rather than major crime, although it has a clear mandate in respect of
both," Alford said.
Greater police powers were recommended, particularly the controlled use of
listening devices.
Despite the report's findings, the government continued to resist
opposition calls for a royal commission into paedophilia.
"My view is that what we need to do is to make sure that the police, the
Criminal Justice Commission and the Children's Commissioner get on with
the job," Premier Rob Borbidge said in ruling out a royal commission.
Other evidence to emerge in Alford's report included the circulation of a
"snuff" film believed to have been made here, showing a child being
sodomised and disembowelled.
It is alleged police identified a ring of paedophiles but no action was
taken and the investigation was aborted.
A 40-year-old Australian businessman accused of defiling Fijian children
and putting pornographic pictures of them on the Internet was, meanwhile,
remanded in custody on 26 charges by a court in Fiji Tuesday.
Mark Lawrence Mutch, a financial controller with a company dealing in
cable and telecommunications equipment, pleaded not guilty to 13 counts of
defilement and 13 of indecent assault dating from 1992 to this month.
Police said in a statement to the media that they became aware of Mutch's
activities when a computer repair company in Australia picked up
pornographic images from a computer that had been sent to them for repairs
late in July.
PB
Joe1orbit wrote:
> We also learn that investigators, in the course of their probe, managed
> to come across an actual snuff film, which shows a child being sodomized,
> disembowelled, and then killed, and that this snuff film was viewed by and
> circulated among, at least a few people. I wish I could get my hands on
> this film, but I venture to guess that the police are holding on to it.
> Who knows, perhaps a bootleg copy will somehow manage to find it's way
> into underground circulation.
Up until this point, I thought you were decrying this terrible plague,
but now I understand that you simply want to have some fun yourself.
Welcome to oz, pedo.
Pablo in the Penalty Box
"Fun sure flies when you're doing time."
t.cruise
On 20 Aug 1997 02:07:20 GMT, joe1...@aol.com (Joe1orbit) wrote:
> And yes, if I had in my possession a snuff video showing a child being
>sodomized, disembowelled, and killed, I would definately want to watch it.
>If the tape ONLY showed a child being sodomized, my interest in watching
>it would be much lower, but I probably would still watch it. It is the
>disembowelling and murder of the child that would be far more interesting
>to me.
>
Seek professional help, immediately.
T.C.
Joe1orbit
Joe1orbit wrote:
>> We also learn that investigators, in the course of their probe,
managed
>> to come across an actual snuff film, which shows a child being
sodomized,
>> disembowelled, and then killed, and that this snuff film was viewed by
and
>> circulated among, at least a few people. I wish I could get my hands on
>> this film, but I venture to guess that the police are holding on to it.
>> Who knows, perhaps a bootleg copy will somehow manage to find it's way
>> into underground circulation.
PB <pen...@box.com> Wrote:
>Up until this point, I thought you were decrying this terrible plague,
>but now I understand that you simply want to have some fun yourself.
Hello,
I do not "decry" anything that occurs in your pathetic society. All I do
is express my true opinions and desires on the events, structures, and
mores, of your society. Emotionally, I do not care about the fact that 300
pedophiles who have each abused more than 150 children, live in Australia.
I don't care about the pedophiles, or about their victims, on an emotional
level. I was the LAST victim that I will ever care about.
And yes, if I had in my possession a snuff video showing a child being
sodomized, disembowelled, and killed, I would definately want to watch it.
If the tape ONLY showed a child being sodomized, my interest in watching
it would be much lower, but I probably would still watch it. It is the
disembowelling and murder of the child that would be far more interesting
to me.
>Welcome to oz, pedo.
Always nice to be welcomed, wherever I go. If the word pedo is shot for
pedophile, I do not meet the legal criteria for such a title. But I take
no offense at your opinion.
Take care, JOE
Mignarda
>Subject: Re: Child sexual abuse runs rampant in Australia
>From: tcr...@aloha.net (t.cruise)
>Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 03:33:30 GMT
>Message-ID: <33fc64e2...@news.aloha.net>
>>sodomized, disembowelled, and killed, I would definately want to watch
it.
>>If the tape ONLY showed a child being sodomized, my interest in watching
>>it would be much lower, but I probably would still watch it. It is the
>>disembowelling and murder of the child that would be far more
interesting
>>to me.
>>
>
>
>T.C.
>
>
>
Pass the popcorn!
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(Unabomber/Zodiac)
Joe1orbit
Joe1...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> We also learn that investigators, in the course of their probe,
>> managed
>> >> to come across an actual snuff film, which shows a child being
>> sodomized,
>> >> disembowelled, and then killed, and that this snuff film was viewed
by
>> and
>> >> circulated among, at least a few people. I wish I could get my hands
on
>> >> this film, but I venture to guess that the police are holding on to
it.
>> >> Who knows, perhaps a bootleg copy will somehow manage to find it's
way
>> >> into underground circulation.
PB <pen...@box.com> Wrote:
>> >Up until this point, I thought you were decrying this terrible plague,
>> >but now I understand that you simply want to have some fun yourself.
Cryptkeeper <ke...@permangroup.com > Wrote:
>Sorry to butt in on ya Joe, lost the first parts to this thread.
Hello Kelly,
No problem. If ya want me to repost the original news article to this
thread , just ask. I'll be glad to do so.
> IF this
>is an actual snuff film, then it would be the first documented one I
>have heard of.
According to the investigative report, it is an actual snuff film. This
report is from Australia, not from the USA.
> There have been many discussions on another group about
>the validity of these films. There has never been an actual one found in
>the US.
Perhaps not. But there definately have been killers who deliberately
recorded on videotape the deaths of their victims, and then rewatched the
tapes for their own enjoyment. The survivalist/serial killing duo of
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng immediately come to mind. They did not seek to
sell or show the tapes they made to anyone else, but they definately did
record the actual deaths of some of their victims.
> Maybe there are underground ones, who knows, but a real
>certifiable one has never been proven.
This one is reported out of Australia. I don't know how "certifiable" it
is. All I know is that the investigative report by the Australian
committee looking into child sexuakl abuse in Australia reports that they
have found a snuff video showing a child being sodomized, disembowelled,
and killed.
> I can probably try to find the
>backup to this if I look hard enough.
I believe ya. No need to look for any backup on my account. Like I said,
if you can't find my original post to this thread, I'll be glad to repost
it. Just ask.
Take care, JOE
>Kelly
Mike
On 21 Aug 1997 00:01:38 GMT, joe1...@aol.com (Joe1orbit) wrote:
>Joe1...@aol.com wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> This one is reported out of Australia. I don't know how "certifiable" it
>is. All I know is that the investigative report by the Australian
>committee looking into child sexuakl abuse in Australia reports that they
>have found a snuff video showing a child being sodomized, disembowelled,
>and killed.
>
[snip]
I haven't heard that a film has actually been found, only that one
like you have decribed was reported to have been made and offered for
sale here in Brisbane (at $500 per copy incidently).
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Mike.
Email: sall...@squirrel.com.au
URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Alley/7095
UIN: 1026907
Donald Caswell
Serial killers like to document their work. Some have used photographs.
I know that Bob Berdella in Kansas City did, though as far as I know he
only photographed the torture, not the actual murder. Videocameras are
as easy to use as still cameras, so if snuff films don't exist now, they
will. Judging by the success of the commercially released "Faces of
Death" series, I would think snuff films would have a large market. But
of course the producers would be very wary of letting them out.
DC in KC
Fiona Webster
Kelly wrote:
>IF this is an actual snuff film, then it would be the first documented
I just finished reading a brand-new book about snuff films:
_Gods of Death_
by Yaron Svoray with Thomas Hughes
Simon & Schuster HC, September, 1997
If you go to http://www.amazon.com and search on the title and/or
author, you'll find a Kirkus Reviews description of it. Svoray is
an Israeli Jew, a former cop and journalist who in his last big project,
went undercover to investigate neo-Nazis in Germany. In this book, he
poses as a middleman for people who wish to view and/or buy snuff
films. He has a number of fascinating adventures in Europe, getting to
know some of the players in the hardcore porn business.
In the process of Svoray's investigation, he sees several snuff films --
they're not commercially packaged "movies," of course, but short amateur
productions without script, plot, or credits, on unlabeled
videocassettes that are carefully guarded against being stolen or
copied. Whether you believe what he says or not, is up to you. Due
to a very plausible sequence of mishaps and double-crosses, he never
does obtain a copy of a snuff film that he can walk away with. He does,
though, succeed in showing one such film to actor Robert De Niro, hoping
that De Niro will publicize the issue.
I found it an interesting book, if a little silly in its
cloak-and-dagger shenanigans. The author strikes me as sincere and
well-intentioned. He is widely respected for his book about the
Neo-Nazis, called _In Hitler's Shadow_ -- of which an HBO documentary
was made, titled "The Infiltrator."
Personally, I find it easier to believe that amateur videotapes of
murders exist, than to believe that they don't -- given how many murders
there are in the world, and how many video cameras. The ones that
Svoray describes are in shabby settings, including in war zones such as
Bosnia, where a man or a few men are seen raping a terrified child or
underage teen and then quickly killing her. There's no acting involved
-- it's just an atrocity on film.
I also find it easy to believe that there are people who would pay
money to see such film clips.
As Svoray concludes, in his book, "There was no conspiracy ...
The [snuff] videos were only a minute piece of something. They
were evidence, yet. But they were evidence of something so much larger
and more horrible that it made the few minutes of violence caught on the
videotapes in my backpack pale in comparison."
In other words: man's inhumanity to man.
--Fiona