Oregon woman charged in her son's drowning
eartha...@yahoo.com
August 10, 2005
Manslaughter charged in local toddler's death
By SARAH LEMON
Mail Tribune
A Medford woman whose 2-year-old son drowned in a backyard swimming
pool in May has been charged with manslaughter.
Grand jurors indicted Jessica Jean Shine, 28, on a charge of
second-degree manslaughter. Prosecutors alleged that she negligently
caused the death of James Russell Shine, who fell into an above- ground
pool at the family's Midway Road home on May 3.
James was unattended when he drowned in about two feet of water after
apparently climbing the pool's 3-foot-high side, investigators said.
It's unclear how long the toddler was in the water before Jessica
Shine called 9-1-1 and reported he was unconscious and not breathing.
A set of wooden stairs were found lying on the ground near the pool
when police arrived, said Medford police Lt. Tim George. A wooden deck
had been built around one side of the pool, George added.
James died at Doernbecher Children's Hospital in Portland three days
after his fall into the pool. He was flown to Portland after initially
being hospitalized at Rogue Valley Medical Center. Emergency medical
workers attempted to revive him at the scene.
Several people were home at the time of the drowning, but only Jessica
Shine has been charged with a crime, said Matt Chancellor, deputy
district attorney for Jackson County.
"She's the legal guardian of the kid, and it's her duty to watch
the kid," Chancellor said.
The toddler's drowning is the third in less than a year to result in
criminal charges against local parents.
Crystal Ann Delap, 26, and her boyfriend, 52-year-old Steven John Hunt,
are set to stand trial on Dec. 13 for the death of Delap's 2-year-old
son, Stephen Randolph Horvath. The boy drowned Sept. 3 in an
above-ground pool at Hunt's Sams Valley home.
Kayla Christine LeMaster, 23, of Grants Pass, was sentenced to
probation in May after pleading guilty to criminally negligent homicide
in the death of her 13-month-old daughter, Janayah. The girl drowned
Oct. 5 in a fountain at Callahan's Lodge - south of Ashland off
Interstate 5 - after LeMaster fell asleep on the inn's lawn.
Indicted on Thursday, Shine is set to hear the charges against her on
Tuesdayin Jackson County Circuit Court.
Bo Raxo
<eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2005/0810/local/stories/02local.htm
> August 10, 2005
> Manslaughter charged in local toddler's death
> By SARAH LEMON
> Mail Tribune
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> A Medford woman whose 2-year-old son drowned in a backyard swimming
> pool in May has been charged with manslaughter.
>
It's about time they started charging parents and other caregivers in these
negligent deaths. Excellent story, it outlines not only this case but
mentions other similar ones (that's called real journalism, folks).
Thanks for posting it. Hope the stupid mother, if she really was negligent,
gets something in the 5-7 year range.
Bo Raxo
edi...@netpath.net
>It's about time they started charging parents and other caregivers in these
>negligent deaths.
Get real. This was a 2-YEAR-OLD who climbed a THREE-FOOT-HIGH thing
to get into that pool. It isn't some general legal duty of a parent to
shackle his kid at all times - and that would be called "child abuse"
in the occasional cases where a frustrated parent gets caught doing so!
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tiny dancer
"Bo Raxo" <invasio...@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in message
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Actually, it appears they are only charging 'lower to middle income' parents
with a crime. I didn't notice any *Beverly Hills* parents being charged
with their kids falling into the large inground pools.
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>with a crime. I didn't notice any *Beverly >Hills* parents being charged
>with their kids falling into the large inground >pools.
I work in Beverly Hills and don't remember hearing of any kids drowning
in pools being reported. In fact, the only "upper income" pool
drowning I can remember reading about is the one at Tommy Lee's house,
and that child was in the care of a nanny, so you can't really blame
its parents.
Please tell us how many drownings there have been in Beverly Hills, and
then how many of the drowned children were with caregivers other than
their parents before you start contending things that may not be true.
Mez
tiny dancer
"Messalina" <messa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was referring to the income level, which was why I put *beverly hills* in
the little asterics. IIRC, the guitar player for Elton John, child drown
in his pool while he was out on tour a couple years ago. My point was, it
seems like the examples posted were lower to middle income type situations.
Wealthy children also drown in pools. I'd hate to see this as similar to
the 'baby bakings' in hot cars. Often times the higher the income level of
the parents, the less often they are charged with these sorts of crimes.
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kris....@prodigy.net
Oliver, drowned at his home after a tent the boy was playing in fell
into the family's pool.
There's a huge difference between neglecting a two-year-old, and the
nine-year-old victim of a freak accident. A two-year-old must be
watched all the time. The Oregon mother did not do that. Of course,
it would be OK to charge her if she were one of those nasty "illegal
aliens".....right? But poor/middle income "white" people can't be
charged with child neglect?
I see no mention of the Medford family's income, so it's not
understandable why "picking on poor people" has to be brought into this
case at all.
Kris
Sharonpo
news:zhMKe.1923$xW....@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
> I was referring to the income level, which was why I put *beverly
> hills* in the little asterics. IIRC, the guitar player for Elton
> John, child drown in his pool while he was out on tour a couple
> years ago. My point was, it seems like the examples posted were
> lower to middle income type situations. Wealthy children also
> drown in pools. I'd hate to see this as similar to the 'baby
> bakings' in hot cars. Often times the higher the income level of
> the parents, the less often they are charged with these sorts of
> crimes.
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*Asterisks,* you illiterate slug.
Why don't you expound on your "point?" We already know that you and
yours are in the low income bracket; so what's your real beef?
Haven't you noticed that when bad things happen to "famous people," the
public scrutiny is more intense than when an "average joe" has a
"problem?"
Sheesh - what a dumbass...
edi...@netpath.net
>There's a huge difference between neglecting a two-year-old, and the
>nine-year-old victim of a freak accident. A two-year-old must be
>watched all the time. The Oregon mother did not do that. Of course,
>it would be OK to charge her if she were one of those nasty "illegal
>aliens".....right? But poor/middle income "white" people can't be
>charged with child neglect?
Oh get real. Illegal aliens rarely get charged with any
social-service-type crime. They do get charged a lot with "ordinary"
adult crime - from dope pushing to drunk driving - but almost never
with the kind of stuff Social Services is all too eager to pounce on
native-born mothers over. And the social-service system also is -
incredibly - indulgent of their OBVIOUS crimes committed just in being
here illegally, such as fake driver's licenses, fake green cards, fake
Social Security numbers; it also is extremely indulgent when their kids
need help - as when Jessica Santillan here in North Carolina, herself
an illegal, got two liver transplants at Duke University Hospital
before finally dying. (Think YOUR kid could get two liver transplants
- free - at Duke University Hospital?)
My experience - as a lawyer who handled a lot of these cases in the
1990s - is that Social Services is eager to pounce on native-born black
ghetto mothers, but ignores equally-bad illegal-alien mothers out of a
"political correctness" issue. That's what I saw in North Carolina.
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Phoenix
tinyd...@hotmail.com says...
Bruce Dern's young child died in a pool. So did OJ Simpson's kid.
That was a long time ago, though.
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Messalina
>Why don't you expound on your "point?" We >already know that you and
>yours are in the low income bracket; so >what's your real beef?
>Haven't you noticed that when bad things >happen to "famous people," the
>public scrutiny is more intense than when >an "average joe" has a
>"problem?"
>Sheesh - what a dumbass...
Hey, I found tiny's faulty conclusions pretty annoying but managed not
to be abusive about it.
Mez
E/C Annie
Bo Raxo
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
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> Bo Raxo wrote:
> >It's about time they started charging parents and other caregivers in
these
> >negligent deaths.
>
> Get real. This was a 2-YEAR-OLD who climbed a THREE-FOOT-HIGH thing
> to get into that pool. It isn't some general legal duty of a parent to
> shackle his kid at all times - and that would be called "child abuse"
> in the occasional cases where a frustrated parent gets caught doing so!
>
Okay, let's get real.
You have a 2 year old. You have a pool. The pool is three feet off the
ground, and there are a set of stairs to get up that. The stairs are not
permanently attached.
All of these facts were in the original news story.
Now if you have the tiniest sliver of brain, you keep the steps away from
the pool's side except when you are actually out there watching things.
But this parent didn't.
Now I don't care if you live at the edge of a cliff, or next to a river, or
right at the edge of a busy highway, or any other thing that could easily
kill your kid. You know the dangerous situation is there. It isn't a
surprise. You take a reasonable precaution to keep the kid from harm.
Doesn't mean really unlikely accidents can't happen. Doesn't mean no kid
ever gets hurt or killed. But you take *reasonable* precautions.
A reasonable person moves those steps away from the pool. Even better, puts
up a little fence or keeps the back door locked or something to make sure
the kid doesn't drown. A negligent person sets up the conditions for
disaster - whether a pool, or a river, or a cliff, or a highway, and then
just turns his or her back and doesn't notice as a child dies.
That's real. As real as the corpse of a little child. Lock the bitch up
for five years, and maybe the next dumbfuck who can't manage to think past
the end of her nose will notice that, gee, letting your toddler wander in to
the pool might mess up her ability to lay around the house enjoying
something other than the joys of parenthood.
Bo Raxo