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Secret family and wife battle in court over dead Hells Angels prospect's assets
Justice Jennifer Duncan said that Michael Widner “left a complicated legacy” when he was killed in March 2017, with two women claiming to be his spouse, each with two children and each claiming a right to his assets.
Author of the article:Kim Bolan
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The girlfriend of a Hells Angels prospect murdered in 2017 qualifies as a spouse even though he was still married and also living with his wife at the time, a B.C. Supreme Court judge has ruled.
Justice Jennifer Duncan said that Michael Widner “left a complicated legacy” when he was killed in March 2017 — two women claiming to be his spouse, each with two children and each claiming a right to his assets.
Sabrina Widner married Michael at a destination wedding in Mexico in 2008, attended by high-profile Hells Angel Bob Green, himself murdered years later. Their kids were born in 2005 and 2006.
Sara Boughton hooked up with Michael in 2009. He promised her he was going to leave his wife though he never did. They also had two children, in 2014 and 2015.
While Boughton knew of Widner, Widner only learned of her husband’s “secret household” after his death, Duncan said.
During her marriage, Widner was listed as the sole owner of three Sooke properties that she said her husband had no interest in.
But Boughton sued Widner, saying Michael “told her many times over the course of their relationship that he paid for several properties which were registered in his wife’s name.”
She asked the court to declare that his estate should include “half of the value of the property held in Ms. Widner’s name” including the proceeds from one house that was sold.
Duncan ruled that both women qualified as the dead biker’s spouses, so both should be entitled to half his estate. And she agreed with Boughton that the estate should include some of the cash that the late Hells Angel had contributed to his wife’s mortgages over the years.
She ordered Widner to pay $150,000, plus interest, into the estate, which will be split between the two families.
Michael was a 39-year-old prospect with the Nanaimo Hells Angels when his body was found near Port Renfrew four years ago. His murder remains unsolved.
“The deceased was able to maintain two separate households because he told Ms. Widner he was working part of the week on the other side of Vancouver Island from the Widner household, when he was actually spending time with Ms. Boughton,” Duncan said. “The deceased kept up a regular schedule, alternating between the two households.”
Michael Widner’s parents testified that they knew about Boughton and the second family but never told his wife or the older children. None of Michael’s siblings knew of Boughton and the younger kids, who were living in a rented house in Shawnigan when he was killed.
His mother, Reta Acorn, testified that her son was involved in cocaine deals with Green, the Hells Angel killed in 2016, and that he paid for the Sooke properties with the proceeds from the drug trade.
“Ms. Acorn said her son was afraid of civil forfeiture, so he put everything in Ms. Widner’s name, although she conceded that she never saw any purchase or financing documents for the properties,” Duncan said, though she later rejected Acorn’s testimony as unreliable.
Widner testified that she was unaware her husband was involved in any illegal activity or in the Hells Angels.
She “said the deceased worked at a variety of enterprises, including fishing charters, cutting and delivering wood, and working with bailiffs to buy closed businesses and then selling the contents.”
He later rented out a workshop at one of the Sooke properties “for a legal medical-marijuana grow operation,” Widner said.
Duncan heard that Rick Alexander, the president of the Devil’s Army biker club, was also involved in the pot operation. Alexander is awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge.
Widner said that after her husband’s body was found, “she met a man called Shawn in a parking lot with another individual.”
“They talked to her about Mike’s affiliation with the Hells Angels and how he was going through the program’ and they wanted to `vest’ his casket. If she allowed them to do that, the Hells Angels would pay for the funeral,” Duncan said. “Ms. Widner told them she would do her own thing but they could attend the service.”
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B.C.’s anti-gang police say that up to 200 people, including full-patch Hells Angels members, could ride on Vancouver Island this weekend in honour of a prospect murdered earlier this month.
Sooke man Michael Gregory Widner, 39, went missing earlier this month, and his remains were discovered days later along the Pacific Marine route near Port Renfrew.
RCMP later confirmed that Widner had known connections to the motorcycle gang and that his death was being investigated as a homicide.
B.C.’s Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit says the memorial ride is expected to take place Saturday afternoon.
Riders will start in Nanaimo and end up at a known Hells Angels clubhouse on Spencer Road in Langford.
CFSEU-BC says activity at the home has been quiet recently, but it’s still considered a gang lair.
Rides like this are as much about reminding the public and rivals that the gang is around as they are about paying respects to the deceased, according to CFSEU-BC.
They say Mounties and gang unit members will monitor the ride from start to finish, ensuring public safety.
Motorists travelling on the Island Highway should expect delays Saturday afternoon due to the ride, CFSEU-BC said.
Vancouver Island’s Integrated Major Crime Unit is leading the homicide investigation into Widner’s death, and is asking anyone with information to call them at 250-380-6211 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
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The man reported missing in Sooke last week is a prospect for the Nanaimo chapter of the Hells Angels biker gang, sources told Postmedia News on Monday.
Michael Gregory Widner, 39, was last seen March 8 in Sooke and was reported missing the following day.
His wife posted a message on Facebook over the weekend saying police had since told her that Widner’s body had been found.
“It is with a broken heart and overwhelming sadness I share that the police have informed me that my husbands body has been found,” she wrote in a comment that has since been made private. “I am with our children holding them tight and keeping them safe and removed from all the attention. His children know that he is in heaven with his brother Steve and at peace.”
Neither Sooke RCMP nor E Division headquarters responded to requests for information Monday about the status of the case and whether it was now a murder investigation.
Hells Angels spokesman Rick Ciarniello told Postmedia News that Widner was a prospect and that his body had been found Sunday.
Earlier, Sooke Staff Sergeant Jeff McArthur said in a news release that Widner’s vehicle, a 2003 black Volkswagen Golf, was found abandoned at Poirier Lake, in William Edmonds Park in Sooke.
Widner has no criminal record in B.C., according to the online court database.
But he was the subject of a suit by the B.C. Civil Forfeiture director in 2012 after being stopped by Sooke RCMP a year earlier with $4,980 cash, 25 grams of marijuana, a hunting knife and four cellphones in his vehicle.
“Mr. Widner either directly participated in the selling of illegal drugs or obtained the money directly or indirectly from the sellers of illegal drugs,” the suit alleged.
Widner later agreed to forfeit the money, though most was sent to his lawyer to cover his bill.
Widner’s isn’t the only recent missing person case linked to the Hells Angels.
Surrey RCMP is trying to locate Rickey Sandor Mandi, a former prospect for the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels.
Mandi was last seen on January 27th, near 96th Avenue and King George Boulevard in Surrey, Sgt. Alana Dunlop said Monday.
Originally a relative reported Mandi missing to Chilliwack RCMP and said he hadn’t been seen since New Year’s Eve.
But given that Mandi is known to frequent Surrey and Langley, Surrey Mounties made inquiries and learned of the sighting in late January, Dunlop said.
In 2004, Mandi was sentenced to more than six years in jail for a violent assault and kidnapping.
He later told the parole board he wanted to change his life and went on to work with people struggling with addiction.
However he left the job a few years ago and appeared to be dealing with his own addiction troubles.
Last September he posted on his Facebook page that he was coming off “a four-year brutal relapse.”
He said he had got clean again “like a Phoenix raising out from the ashes of a long period of my life filled with painful memories, of heartaches and disappointments.”
Ciarniello, who was in the same Hells Angels chapter as Mandi, said he wasn’t aware the former prospect was missing.
“I haven’t seen Mandi in 10 years or so,” Ciarniello said.
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HAMC Nanaimo Propect Found Dead. Former Hell's Angel Prospect Rick Mandi Missing.
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The man reported missing in Sooke last week is a prospect for the Nanaimo chapter of the Hells Angels biker gang, sources told Postmedia News on Monday.
Michael Gregory Widner, 39, was last seen March 8 in Sooke and was reported missing the following day.
His wife posted a message on Facebook over the weekend saying police had since told her that Widner’s body had been found.
“It is with a broken heart and overwhelming sadness I share that the police have informed me that my husbands body has been found,” she wrote in a comment that has since been made private. “I am with our children holding them tight and keeping them safe and removed from all the attention. His children know that he is in heaven with his brother Steve and at peace.”
Neither Sooke RCMP nor E Division headquarters responded to requests for information Monday about the status of the case and whether it was now a murder investigation.
Hells Angels spokesman Rick Ciarniello told Postmedia News that Widner was a prospect and that his body had been found Sunday.
Earlier, Sooke Staff Sergeant Jeff McArthur said in a news release that Widner’s vehicle, a 2003 black Volkswagen Golf, was found abandoned at Poirier Lake, in William Edmonds Park in Sooke.
Widner has no criminal record in B.C., according to the online court database.
But he was the subject of a suit by the B.C. Civil Forfeiture director in 2012 after being stopped by Sooke RCMP a year earlier with $4,980 cash, 25 grams of marijuana, a hunting knife and four cellphones in his vehicle.
“Mr. Widner either directly participated in the selling of illegal drugs or obtained the money directly or indirectly from the sellers of illegal drugs,” the suit alleged.
Widner later agreed to forfeit the money, though most was sent to his lawyer to cover his bill.
Widner’s isn’t the only recent missing person case linked to the Hells Angels.
Surrey RCMP is trying to locate Rickey Sandor Mandi, a former prospect for the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels.
Mandi was last seen on January 27th, near 96th Avenue and King George Boulevard in Surrey, Sgt. Alana Dunlop said Monday.
Originally a relative reported Mandi missing to Chilliwack RCMP and said he hadn’t been seen since New Year’s Eve.
But given that Mandi is known to frequent Surrey and Langley, Surrey Mounties made inquiries and learned of the sighting in late January, Dunlop said.
In 2004, Mandi was sentenced to more than six years in jail for a violent assault and kidnapping.
He later told the parole board he wanted to change his life and went on to work with people struggling with addiction.
However he left the job a few years ago and appeared to be dealing with his own addiction troubles.
Last September he posted on his Facebook page that he was coming off “a four-year brutal relapse.”
He said he had got clean again “like a Phoenix raising out from the ashes of a long period of my life filled with painful memories, of heartaches and disappointments.”
Ciarniello, who was in the same Hells Angels chapter as Mandi, said he wasn’t aware the former prospect was missing.
“I haven’t seen Mandi in 10 years or so,” Ciarniello said.
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A former prospect of the Hells Angels biker club says today's young gangsters should follow his path -- hit bottom in prison and build their life back up, free of crime.
Rick Mandi said he lived a good life as a Hells Angels prospect -- one step short of a full patch member -- because he was a big guy willing to throw his weight around.
"I was involved in kidnapping, extortion, drug debts," said Mandi in an interview with CTV News.
"I was in the mindframe that I was untouchable, that I was smarter than everybody," said Mandi, who now works to rehabilitate chronic offenders.
Mandi wouldn't talk specifically about his exploits with the bikers, but they ended with a botched kidnapping -- and he found guilty in 2003 in BC Supreme Court, and sent to prison for five years.
At first, gang affiliations mattered in jail, he said -- but then things changed.
"I ran out of money, I ran out of dope, and I ran out of friends," he said. "When you're in that place a lot of people turn on you."
It was jail that allowed him to isolate himself from gang connections and turn his life around, he said, adding that today's gangsters need the same tough treatment.
When he got out of jail, the Angels offered him a chance to rejoin the gang, but he said he turned it away in favour of working for a living.
When Mandi was released, he joined Vision Quest Recovery Society, a rehabilitation centre for chronic offenders, run by an old friend, Jim O'Rourke.
"We don't give up on anyone," said O'Rourke. "We give up on them when they're dead."
O'Rourke says the people at his society are often into organized crime -- but that can be a death sentence.
"There's no old gangsters," he said. "Ever noticed that? Their retirement plan is the thirty-cent solution. If you want to live long and prosper you have to get out of gang life."
Now, Mandi is staff at Vision Quest and runs his own recovery house. If anyone there is thinking of returning to the gang lifestyle, he has one message.
"I would say take a look at where you're going -- it's just a matter of time. Jails, institutions, death," he said. "Sooner or later it's your turn."
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Judge acquits accused kidnapper
Man charged in connection with Hells Angels-linked abduction and
torture goes free.
VANCOUVER SUN-Friday-January 7/05.
VANCOUVER- Hells Angels hangaround Danny Anderson was acquitted
Thursday of all charges relating to the kidnapping, beating and
extortion of Langley gambler and small-time drug dealer Kirk Cooley.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Sunni Stromberg-Stein ruled that while some
of the evidence against Anderson was believable, it was not reliable.
The three major witnesses against Anderson - his former Hells Angel
companion and club prospect Chad Proctor, Cooley, and Cooley's partner
in crime, Robert Nicholson -gave their evidence in exchange for being
placed in the witness protection program. They have been given new
identities and moved to locations outside of the Lower Mainland for
their safety.
Outside court, Crown counsel Anne Clark said the Crown has 30 days to
consider an appeal.
Asked if she was disappointed at the verdict, Clark replied: "It's not
my job to be disappointed. It's a fact-driven decision."
Anderson said only: "I've got no comment."
His father, who attended every day of the trial, also refused to
comment, but an unidentified woman who was with them called out she
was "delighted" as the trio left the Robson Street courthouse in a
snowstorm.
Two other men convicted in connection with Cooley's kidnapping are now
in prison.
Hells Angels prospect Rick Mandi is serving six years, while Ladner
resident and bookmaker Daniel Laybourn is serving a lesser sentence
after pleading guilty.
The case, which provoked the largest police operation in B.C. against
the Hells Angels motorcycle club, began in November 2001 when Cooley
and Nicholson stole eight kilograms of marijuana from the home of one
of Cooley's friends while the friend was away.
At the time, Cooley had run up almost $100,000 in gambling debts and
was being pursued by bookies -among them Laybourn -for payment.
According to evidence, the marijuana belonged to Hells Angel member
Hal Porteous.
A week after the theft a group of Hells Angels led by Mandi arrived at
Cooley's townhouse, apparently intent on kidnapping him. But Cooley
was with his children and Nicholson at the time, so arrangements were
made for both parties to meet the next day in the Willowbrook Mall.
Again the intent was to kidnap Cooley but he managed to escape Mandi's
crew after he called the RCMP.
On Nov. 29 -against the advice of Langley RCMP officers -Cooley went
to a house in the 6600-block of Ladner Trunk Road with Laybourn, who
had enticed him there on the pretext of showing him a possible site
for a marijuana-grow operation.
Once inside, he found Mandi and a large, thick-set male he identified
as Anderson waiting for him.
He said he was beaten and tortured, had a hood placed over his head
and was bound with zip-straps and duct tape.
He was then dumped into a car that the Crown alleged was driven by
Anderson.
However, he managed to kick open the trunk and escape from the car in
Surrey.
While police were engaged in investigating the kidnapping, Delta
officers began receiving anonymous e-mails originating from a
Coquitlam library providing them with information concerning Mandi's
part.
They traced the e-mails to Proctor, who was told that his part in
providing information to police would eventually come out in court.
Fearing for his life, Proctor agreed to testify provided he was placed
in witness protection. He had sent the information because he hated
Mandi and wanted to see him kicked out of the Hells Angels.
The information was enough for Delta police to obtain a search warrant
and the Hells Angels clubhouse in Coquitlam was raided by officers,
who seized records and computers.
In her decision, Stromberg-Stein said that while Proctor's evidence
was believ-
able, it was not reliable because there was no corroborating evidence
to back up the story of Anderson's part in the affair.
And while Anderson was probably involved, probability was not enough
to justify a guilty verdict, she said.
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Secret family and wife battle in court over dead Hells Angels prospect's assets
Justice Jennifer Duncan said that Michael Widner “left a complicated legacy” when he was killed in March 2017, with two women claiming to be his spouse, each with two children and each claiming a right to his assets.
Author of the article:Kim Bolan
Publishing date:Mar 02, 2021 • 1 day ago • 3 minute read • comment bubble12 Comments
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The girlfriend of a Hells Angels prospect murdered in 2017 qualifies as a spouse even though he was still married and also living with his wife at the time, a B.C. Supreme Court judge has ruled.
Justice Jennifer Duncan said that Michael Widner “left a complicated legacy” when he was killed in March 2017 — two women claiming to be his spouse, each with two children and each claiming a right to his assets.
Sabrina Widner married Michael at a destination wedding in Mexico in 2008, attended by high-profile Hells Angel Bob Green, himself murdered years later. Their kids were born in 2005 and 2006.
Sara Boughton hooked up with Michael in 2009. He promised her he was going to leave his wife though he never did. They also had two children, in 2014 and 2015.
While Boughton knew of Widner, Widner only learned of her husband’s “secret household” after his death, Duncan said.
During her marriage, Widner was listed as the sole owner of three Sooke properties that she said her husband had no interest in.
But Boughton sued Widner, saying Michael “told her many times over the course of their relationship that he paid for several properties which were registered in his wife’s name.”
She asked the court to declare that his estate should include “half of the value of the property held in Ms. Widner’s name” including the proceeds from one house that was sold.
Duncan ruled that both women qualified as the dead biker’s spouses, so both should be entitled to half his estate. And she agreed with Boughton that the estate should include some of the cash that the late Hells Angel had contributed to his wife’s mortgages over the years.
She ordered Widner to pay $150,000, plus interest, into the estate, which will be split between the two families.
Michael was a 39-year-old prospect with the Nanaimo Hells Angels when his body was found near Port Renfrew four years ago. His murder remains unsolved.
“The deceased was able to maintain two separate households because he told Ms. Widner he was working part of the week on the other side of Vancouver Island from the Widner household, when he was actually spending time with Ms. Boughton,” Duncan said. “The deceased kept up a regular schedule, alternating between the two households.”
Michael Widner’s parents testified that they knew about Boughton and the second family but never told his wife or the older children. None of Michael’s siblings knew of Boughton and the younger kids, who were living in a rented house in Shawnigan when he was killed.
His mother, Reta Acorn, testified that her son was involved in cocaine deals with Green, the Hells Angel killed in 2016, and that he paid for the Sooke properties with the proceeds from the drug trade.
“Ms. Acorn said her son was afraid of civil forfeiture, so he put everything in Ms. Widner’s name, although she conceded that she never saw any purchase or financing documents for the properties,” Duncan said, though she later rejected Acorn’s testimony as unreliable.
Widner testified that she was unaware her husband was involved in any illegal activity or in the Hells Angels.
She “said the deceased worked at a variety of enterprises, including fishing charters, cutting and delivering wood, and working with bailiffs to buy closed businesses and then selling the contents.”
He later rented out a workshop at one of the Sooke properties “for a legal medical-marijuana grow operation,” Widner said.
Duncan heard that Rick Alexander, the president of the Devil’s Army biker club, was also involved in the pot operation. Alexander is awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge.
Widner said that after her husband’s body was found, “she met a man called Shawn in a parking lot with another individual.”
“They talked to her about Mike’s affiliation with the Hells Angels and how he was going through the program’ and they wanted to `vest’ his casket. If she allowed them to do that, the Hells Angels would pay for the funeral,” Duncan said. “Ms. Widner told them she would do her own thing but they could attend the service.”
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Hell's Angels To Have Memorial Run For Dead Prospect
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B.C.’s anti-gang police say that up to 200 people, including full-patch Hells Angels members, could ride on Vancouver Island this weekend in honour of a prospect murdered earlier this month.
Sooke man Michael Gregory Widner, 39, went missing earlier this month, and his remains were discovered days later along the Pacific Marine route near Port Renfrew.
RCMP later confirmed that Widner had known connections to the motorcycle gang and that his death was being investigated as a homicide.
B.C.’s Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit says the memorial ride is expected to take place Saturday afternoon.
Riders will start in Nanaimo and end up at a known Hells Angels clubhouse on Spencer Road in Langford.
CFSEU-BC says activity at the home has been quiet recently, but it’s still considered a gang lair.
Rides like this are as much about reminding the public and rivals that the gang is around as they are about paying respects to the deceased, according to CFSEU-BC.
They say Mounties and gang unit members will monitor the ride from start to finish, ensuring public safety.
Motorists travelling on the Island Highway should expect delays Saturday afternoon due to the ride, CFSEU-BC said.
Vancouver Island’s Integrated Major Crime Unit is leading the homicide investigation into Widner’s death, and is asking anyone with information to call them at 250-380-6211 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477.
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The man reported missing in Sooke last week is a prospect for the Nanaimo chapter of the Hells Angels biker gang, sources told Postmedia News on Monday.
Michael Gregory Widner, 39, was last seen March 8 in Sooke and was reported missing the following day.
His wife posted a message on Facebook over the weekend saying police had since told her that Widner’s body had been found.
“It is with a broken heart and overwhelming sadness I share that the police have informed me that my husbands body has been found,” she wrote in a comment that has since been made private. “I am with our children holding them tight and keeping them safe and removed from all the attention. His children know that he is in heaven with his brother Steve and at peace.”
Neither Sooke RCMP nor E Division headquarters responded to requests for information Monday about the status of the case and whether it was now a murder investigation.
Hells Angels spokesman Rick Ciarniello told Postmedia News that Widner was a prospect and that his body had been found Sunday.
Earlier, Sooke Staff Sergeant Jeff McArthur said in a news release that Widner’s vehicle, a 2003 black Volkswagen Golf, was found abandoned at Poirier Lake, in William Edmonds Park in Sooke.
Widner has no criminal record in B.C., according to the online court database.
But he was the subject of a suit by the B.C. Civil Forfeiture director in 2012 after being stopped by Sooke RCMP a year earlier with $4,980 cash, 25 grams of marijuana, a hunting knife and four cellphones in his vehicle.
“Mr. Widner either directly participated in the selling of illegal drugs or obtained the money directly or indirectly from the sellers of illegal drugs,” the suit alleged.
Widner later agreed to forfeit the money, though most was sent to his lawyer to cover his bill.
Widner’s isn’t the only recent missing person case linked to the Hells Angels.
Surrey RCMP is trying to locate Rickey Sandor Mandi, a former prospect for the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels.
Mandi was last seen on January 27th, near 96th Avenue and King George Boulevard in Surrey, Sgt. Alana Dunlop said Monday.
Originally a relative reported Mandi missing to Chilliwack RCMP and said he hadn’t been seen since New Year’s Eve.
But given that Mandi is known to frequent Surrey and Langley, Surrey Mounties made inquiries and learned of the sighting in late January, Dunlop said.
In 2004, Mandi was sentenced to more than six years in jail for a violent assault and kidnapping.
He later told the parole board he wanted to change his life and went on to work with people struggling with addiction.
However he left the job a few years ago and appeared to be dealing with his own addiction troubles.
Last September he posted on his Facebook page that he was coming off “a four-year brutal relapse.”
He said he had got clean again “like a Phoenix raising out from the ashes of a long period of my life filled with painful memories, of heartaches and disappointments.”
Ciarniello, who was in the same Hells Angels chapter as Mandi, said he wasn’t aware the former prospect was missing.
“I haven’t seen Mandi in 10 years or so,” Ciarniello said.
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HAMC Nanaimo Propect Found Dead. Former Hell's Angel Prospect Rick Mandi Missing.
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The man reported missing in Sooke last week is a prospect for the Nanaimo chapter of the Hells Angels biker gang, sources told Postmedia News on Monday.
Michael Gregory Widner, 39, was last seen March 8 in Sooke and was reported missing the following day.
His wife posted a message on Facebook over the weekend saying police had since told her that Widner’s body had been found.
“It is with a broken heart and overwhelming sadness I share that the police have informed me that my husbands body has been found,” she wrote in a comment that has since been made private. “I am with our children holding them tight and keeping them safe and removed from all the attention. His children know that he is in heaven with his brother Steve and at peace.”
Neither Sooke RCMP nor E Division headquarters responded to requests for information Monday about the status of the case and whether it was now a murder investigation.
Hells Angels spokesman Rick Ciarniello told Postmedia News that Widner was a prospect and that his body had been found Sunday.
Earlier, Sooke Staff Sergeant Jeff McArthur said in a news release that Widner’s vehicle, a 2003 black Volkswagen Golf, was found abandoned at Poirier Lake, in William Edmonds Park in Sooke.
Widner has no criminal record in B.C., according to the online court database.
But he was the subject of a suit by the B.C. Civil Forfeiture director in 2012 after being stopped by Sooke RCMP a year earlier with $4,980 cash, 25 grams of marijuana, a hunting knife and four cellphones in his vehicle.
“Mr. Widner either directly participated in the selling of illegal drugs or obtained the money directly or indirectly from the sellers of illegal drugs,” the suit alleged.
Widner later agreed to forfeit the money, though most was sent to his lawyer to cover his bill.
Widner’s isn’t the only recent missing person case linked to the Hells Angels.
Surrey RCMP is trying to locate Rickey Sandor Mandi, a former prospect for the Vancouver chapter of the Hells Angels.
Mandi was last seen on January 27th, near 96th Avenue and King George Boulevard in Surrey, Sgt. Alana Dunlop said Monday.
Originally a relative reported Mandi missing to Chilliwack RCMP and said he hadn’t been seen since New Year’s Eve.
But given that Mandi is known to frequent Surrey and Langley, Surrey Mounties made inquiries and learned of the sighting in late January, Dunlop said.
In 2004, Mandi was sentenced to more than six years in jail for a violent assault and kidnapping.
He later told the parole board he wanted to change his life and went on to work with people struggling with addiction.
However he left the job a few years ago and appeared to be dealing with his own addiction troubles.
Last September he posted on his Facebook page that he was coming off “a four-year brutal relapse.”
He said he had got clean again “like a Phoenix raising out from the ashes of a long period of my life filled with painful memories, of heartaches and disappointments.”
Ciarniello, who was in the same Hells Angels chapter as Mandi, said he wasn’t aware the former prospect was missing.
“I haven’t seen Mandi in 10 years or so,” Ciarniello said.
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A former prospect of the Hells Angels biker club says today's young gangsters should follow his path -- hit bottom in prison and build their life back up, free of crime.
Rick Mandi said he lived a good life as a Hells Angels prospect -- one step short of a full patch member -- because he was a big guy willing to throw his weight around.
"I was involved in kidnapping, extortion, drug debts," said Mandi in an interview with CTV News.
"I was in the mindframe that I was untouchable, that I was smarter than everybody," said Mandi, who now works to rehabilitate chronic offenders.
Mandi wouldn't talk specifically about his exploits with the bikers, but they ended with a botched kidnapping -- and he found guilty in 2003 in BC Supreme Court, and sent to prison for five years.
At first, gang affiliations mattered in jail, he said -- but then things changed.
"I ran out of money, I ran out of dope, and I ran out of friends," he said. "When you're in that place a lot of people turn on you."
It was jail that allowed him to isolate himself from gang connections and turn his life around, he said, adding that today's gangsters need the same tough treatment.
When he got out of jail, the Angels offered him a chance to rejoin the gang, but he said he turned it away in favour of working for a living.
When Mandi was released, he joined Vision Quest Recovery Society, a rehabilitation centre for chronic offenders, run by an old friend, Jim O'Rourke.
"We don't give up on anyone," said O'Rourke. "We give up on them when they're dead."
O'Rourke says the people at his society are often into organized crime -- but that can be a death sentence.
"There's no old gangsters," he said. "Ever noticed that? Their retirement plan is the thirty-cent solution. If you want to live long and prosper you have to get out of gang life."
Now, Mandi is staff at Vision Quest and runs his own recovery house. If anyone there is thinking of returning to the gang lifestyle, he has one message.
"I would say take a look at where you're going -- it's just a matter of time. Jails, institutions, death," he said. "Sooner or later it's your turn."
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Judge acquits accused kidnapper
Man charged in connection with Hells Angels-linked abduction and
torture goes free.
VANCOUVER SUN-Friday-January 7/05.
VANCOUVER- Hells Angels hangaround Danny Anderson was acquitted
Thursday of all charges relating to the kidnapping, beating and
extortion of Langley gambler and small-time drug dealer Kirk Cooley.
B.C. Supreme Court Justice Sunni Stromberg-Stein ruled that while some
of the evidence against Anderson was believable, it was not reliable.
The three major witnesses against Anderson - his former Hells Angel
companion and club prospect Chad Proctor, Cooley, and Cooley's partner
in crime, Robert Nicholson -gave their evidence in exchange for being
placed in the witness protection program. They have been given new
identities and moved to locations outside of the Lower Mainland for
their safety.
Outside court, Crown counsel Anne Clark said the Crown has 30 days to
consider an appeal.
Asked if she was disappointed at the verdict, Clark replied: "It's not
my job to be disappointed. It's a fact-driven decision."
Anderson said only: "I've got no comment."
His father, who attended every day of the trial, also refused to
comment, but an unidentified woman who was with them called out she
was "delighted" as the trio left the Robson Street courthouse in a
snowstorm.
Two other men convicted in connection with Cooley's kidnapping are now
in prison.
Hells Angels prospect Rick Mandi is serving six years, while Ladner
resident and bookmaker Daniel Laybourn is serving a lesser sentence
after pleading guilty.
The case, which provoked the largest police operation in B.C. against
the Hells Angels motorcycle club, began in November 2001 when Cooley
and Nicholson stole eight kilograms of marijuana from the home of one
of Cooley's friends while the friend was away.
At the time, Cooley had run up almost $100,000 in gambling debts and
was being pursued by bookies -among them Laybourn -for payment.
According to evidence, the marijuana belonged to Hells Angel member
Hal Porteous.
A week after the theft a group of Hells Angels led by Mandi arrived at
Cooley's townhouse, apparently intent on kidnapping him. But Cooley
was with his children and Nicholson at the time, so arrangements were
made for both parties to meet the next day in the Willowbrook Mall.
Again the intent was to kidnap Cooley but he managed to escape Mandi's
crew after he called the RCMP.
On Nov. 29 -against the advice of Langley RCMP officers -Cooley went
to a house in the 6600-block of Ladner Trunk Road with Laybourn, who
had enticed him there on the pretext of showing him a possible site
for a marijuana-grow operation.
Once inside, he found Mandi and a large, thick-set male he identified
as Anderson waiting for him.
He said he was beaten and tortured, had a hood placed over his head
and was bound with zip-straps and duct tape.
He was then dumped into a car that the Crown alleged was driven by
Anderson.
However, he managed to kick open the trunk and escape from the car in
Surrey.
While police were engaged in investigating the kidnapping, Delta
officers began receiving anonymous e-mails originating from a
Coquitlam library providing them with information concerning Mandi's
part.
They traced the e-mails to Proctor, who was told that his part in
providing information to police would eventually come out in court.
Fearing for his life, Proctor agreed to testify provided he was placed
in witness protection. He had sent the information because he hated
Mandi and wanted to see him kicked out of the Hells Angels.
The information was enough for Delta police to obtain a search warrant
and the Hells Angels clubhouse in Coquitlam was raided by officers,
who seized records and computers.
In her decision, Stromberg-Stein said that while Proctor's evidence
was believ-
able, it was not reliable because there was no corroborating evidence
to back up the story of Anderson's part in the affair.
And while Anderson was probably involved, probability was not enough
to justify a guilty verdict, she said.
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Nazis are notorious queers like Ernst Rohm and yourself Gordon Radavich.
By Johann Hari, Guest Writer
The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists
10/21/2008 06:16 pm ET Updated May 25, 2011
The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked some people. It hasn’t shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.
Some 10,000 gay people were slaughtered in the Nazi death-camps. Many more were humiliated, jailed, deported, ethnically cleansed, or castrated. One gay survivor of the camps, LD Classen von Neudegg, has written about his experiences. A snapshot: “Three men had tried to escape one night. They were captured, and when they returned they had the word ‘homo’ scrawled across their clothing. They were placed on a block and whipped. Then they were forced to beat a drum and cheer, ‘Hurrah! We’re back! Hurrah!’ Then they were hanged.” This is one of the milder events documented in his book.
So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn’t blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It’s time to admit something. Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant platform, describing Islam as “a cancer” and “the biggest threat to Western civilisation today.” Yet with two little fluffy dogs and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied, “How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.”
Jorg Haider blasted Austria’s cosy post-Nazi politics to rubble in 2000 when his neo-fascist ‘Freedom Party’ won a quarter of the vote and joined the country’s government as a coalition partner. Several facts always cropped up in the international press coverage: his square jaw, his muscled torso, his SS-supporting father, his rabid anti-Semitism, his hatred of immigrants, his description of Auschwitz and Dachau as “punishment centres”. A few newspapers mentioned that he is always surrounded by fit, fanatical young men. A handful went further and pointed out that several of these young men are openly gay. Then one left-wing German paper broke the story everybody else was hinting at. They alleged Haider is gay.
Rumours of an Indian waiter with “intimate details” of Haider’s body broke into the press. The Freedom Party’s general manager Gerald Miscka quickly quit, amid accusations that he was Haider’s lover. Haider’s close gay friend Walter Kohler - who has been photographed showing off a holstered pistol while Haider chuckled - declared his opposition to outing politicians. Haider - who was married and has two children - kept quiet while his functionaries denied the rumours. The revelation that he died after leaving a gay bar suggests these rumours were true.
On and on it goes. If you inter-railed across Europe, only stopping with gay fascists, there aren’t many sights you’d miss. France’s leading post-war fascist was Edouard Pfieffer, who was not batting for the straight side. Germany’s leading neo-Nazi all through the eighties was called Michael Kuhnen; he died of AIDS in 1991 a few years after coming out. Martin Lee, author of a study of European fascism, explains, “For Kuhnen, there was something supermacho about being a Nazi, as well as being a homosexual, both of which enforced his sense of living on the edge, of belonging to an elite that was destined to make an impact. He told a West German journalist that homosexuals were ‘especially well-suited for our task, because they do not want ties to wife, children and family.’”
And it wouldn’t be long before your whistlestop tour arrived in Britain. At first glance, our Nazis seem militantly straight. They have tried to disrupt gay parades, describe gay people as “evil”, and BNP leader Nick Griffin reacted charmingly to the bombing of the Admiral Duncan pub in 1999 with a column saying, “The TV footage of gay demonstrators [outside the scene of carnage] flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures repulsive.”
But scratch to homophobic surface and there’s a spandex swastika underneath. In 1999, Martin Webster, a former National Front organiser and head honcho in the British fascist movement, wrote a four-page pamphlet detailing his ‘affair’ with Nick Griffin. “Griffin sought out intimate relations with me,” openly-gay Webster explained, “in the late 1970s. He was twenty years younger than me.” Ray Hill, who infiltrated the British fascist movement for twelve years to gather information for anti-fascist groups, says it’s all too plausible. Homosexuality is “extremely prevalent” in the upper echelons of the British far right, and at one stage in the 1980s nearly half of the movement’s organisers were gay, he claims.
Gerry Gable, editor of the anti-fascist magazine ‘Searchlight’, explains, “I have looked at Britain’s Nazi groups for decades and this homophobic hypocrisy has been there all the time. I cannot think of any organisation on the extreme right that hasn’t attacked people on the grounds of their sexual preference and at the same time contained many gay officers and activists.”
Griffins’ alleged gay affair would stand in a long British fascist tradition. The leader of the skinhead movement all through the 1970s was a crazed, muscled thug called Nicky Crane. He was the icon of a reactionary backlash against immigrants, feminism and the ‘hippy’ lifetsyle of the 1960s. His movement’s emphasis on conformity to a shaven, dehumanised norm resembled classical fascist movements; Crane soon became a campaigner and leading figure in the National Front. Oh, and he was gay. Before he died of AIDS in the mid-1980s, Crane came out and admitted he had starred in many gay porn videos. Just before he died in 1986, he was allowed to steward a Gay Pride march in London, even though he still said he was “proud to be a fascist.”
The rubber-soled friction between gay fascists and progressive British gay people sparked into anger in 1985 when the Gay Skinhead Movement organised a disco at London’s Gay Centre. Several lesbians in particular objected to the “invasion” of the centre. They felt that the cult of “real men” and hypermasculine thugs was stirring up the most base feelings “in the very place, the gay movement, where you would least expect them.”
And this Gaystapo has an icon to revere, an alternative Fuhrer to worship: the lost gay fascist leader Ernst Rohm. Along with Adolf Hitler, Rohm was the founding father of Nazism. Born to conservative Bavarian civil servants in 1887, Ernst Rohm’s life began - in his view - in the “heroic” trenches of the First World War. Like so many of the generation who formed the Nazi Party, he was nurtured by and obsessed with the homoerotic myth of the trenches - heroic, beautiful boys prepared to die for their brothers and their country.
He emerged from the war with a bullet-scarred face and a reverence for war. As he put it in his autobiography, “Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than the good bourgeois order.” After being disbanded, he tried half-heartedly to get a foothold in civilian life, but he saw it as alien, bourgeois, boring. He had no political beliefs, only prejudices - particularly hatred of Jews. Historian Joachim Fest describes Rohm’s generation of alienated, demobbed young men humiliated by defeat as “agents of a permanent revolution without any revolutionary idea of the future, only a wish to eternalize the values of the trenches.”
It was Rohm who first spotted the potential of a soap-box ranter called Adolf Hitler. He saw him as the demagogue he needed to mobilize support for his plan to overthrow democracy and establish a “soldier’s state” where the army ruled untrammelled. He introduced the young fascist to local politicians and military leaders; they knew him for many years as “Rohm’s boy.” Gay historian Frank Rector notes, “Hitler was, to a substantial extent, Rohm’s protégé.” Rohm integrated Hitler into his underground movement to overthrow the Weimar Republic.
Rohm’s blatant, out homosexuality seems bizarre now, given the gay genocide that was to follow. He talked openly about his fondness for gay bars and Turkish baths, and was known for his virility. He believed that gay people were superior to straights, and saw homosexuality as a key principle of his proposed Brave New Fascist Order. As historian Louis Snyder explains, Rohm “projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute... He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people weren’t as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA.” They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning “hysterical women of both sexes”, in reference to feminine gay men.
This belief in the superiority of homosexuality had a strong German tradition that grew up at the turn of the twentieth century around Adolf Brand, publisher of the country’s first gay magazine. You could call it ‘Queer as Volk’: they preached that gay men were the foundation of all nation-states and represented an elite, warrior caste that should rule. They venerated the ancient warrior cults of Sparta, Thebes and Athens.
Rohm often referred to the ancient Greek tradition of sending gay solider couples into battle, because they were believed to be the most ferocious fighters. The famous pass of Thermopylae, for example was held by 300 soldiers - who consisted of 150 gay couples. In its early years, the SA - Hitler and Rohm’s underground army - was seen as predominantly gay. Rohm assigned prominent posts to his lovers, making Edmund Heines his deputy and Karl Ernst the SA commander in Berlin. The organisation would sometimes meet in gay bars. The gay art historian Christian Isermayer said in an interview, “I got to know people in the SA. They used to throw riotous parties even in 1933... I once attended one. It was quite well-behaved but thoroughly gay. But then, in those days, the SA was ultra-gay.”
On June 30th 1934, Rohm was awoken in a Berlin hotel by Hitler himself. He sprang to his feet and saluted, calling, “Heil Mein Fuhrer!” Hitler said simply, “You are under arrest,” and with that he left the room, giving orders for Rohm to be taken to Standelheim prison. He was shot that night. Rohm was the most high-profile kill in the massacre known as ‘the Night of the Long Knives’.
Rohm had been suspected by Hitler of disloyalty, but his murder began a massive crackdown on gay people. Heinrich Himmler, head of the Gestapo, described homosexuality as “a symptom of degeneracy that could destroy our race. We must return to the guiding Nordic principle: extermination of degenerates.”
German historian Lothar Machtan argues that Hitler had Rohm - and almost all of the large number of gay figures within the SA - killed to silence speculation about his own homosexual experiences. His ‘evidence’ for Hitler being gay is shaky and has been questioned by many historians, although some of his findings are at least suggestive. A close friend of Hitler’s during his teenager years, August Kubizek, alleged a “romantic” affair between them. Hans Mend, a despatch rider who served alongside Hitler in the First World War, claimed to have seen Hitler having sex with a man. Hitler was certainly very close to several gay men, and never seems to have had a normal sexual relationship with a woman, not even his wife, Eva Braun.
Rudolph Diels, the founder of the Gestapo, recorded some of Hitler’s private thoughts on homosexuality. “It had destroyed ancient Greece, he said. Once rife, it extended its contagious effects like an ineluctable law of nature to the best and most manly of characters, eliminating from the breeding pool the very men the Volk most needs.” This idea - that homosexuality is ‘contagious’ and, implicitly, tempting - is revealing.
Rohm is venerated on the Homo-Nazi sites that have bred on the internet like germs in a wound. They have names like Gays Against Semitism (with the charming acronym GAS), and the Aryan Resistance Corps (ARC). Their Rohmite philosophy is simple: while white men are superior to other races, gay men are “the masters of the Master Race”. They alone are endowed with the “capacity for pure male bonding” and the “superior intellect” that is needed for “a fascist revolution.” The ARC even organises holiday “get-togethers” for its members where “you can relax amongst the company of our fellow white brothers.”
So it’s fairly easy to establish that gay people are not inoculated from fascism. They have often been at its heart. This begs the bigger question: why? How did gay people - so often victims of oppression and hate - become integral to the most hateful and evil political movement of all? Is it just an extreme form of self-harm, the political equivalent to the gay kids who slash their own arms to ribbons out of self-hate?
Gay pornographer and film-maker Bruce LaBruce has one explanation. He claims that “all gay porn today is implictly fascist. Fascism is in our bones, because it’s all about glorifying white male supremacy and fetishizing domination, cruelty, power and monstrous authority figures.” He has tried to explore the relationship between homosexuality and fascism in his movies, beginning with ‘No Skin Off My Ass’ in 1991. In his disturbing 1999 film “Skin Flick’, a bourgeois gay couple - one black, one white - are sexually terrorised by a gang of gay skinheads who beat off to ‘Mein Kampf’ and beat up ‘femmes’. He implies that bourgeois gay norms quickly break down to reveal a fascist lurking underneath; the movie ends with the black character being raped in front of his half-aroused white lover, as the racist gang chant, “Fuck the monkey.”
I decided to track down some gay fascists and ask them directly. Wyatt Powers, director of the ARC, says, “I always knew in my heart racist and gay were both morally right. I don’t see any conflict between them. It’s only the Jew-owned gay press that tries to convince us that racialism is the same thing as homophobia. You can be an extreme nationalist and gay without any contradiction at all.”
One comment board on a gay racist website goes even further into racist lunacy. One gay man from Ohio says, “Even if you are gay and white, or retarded and white, YOU ARE WHITE, BOTTOM LINE! Instead of letting the white race go extinct because of worthless races such as the Africans or Mexicans popping out literally millions of babies a day, we have to fight this fucked up shit they are doing. They are raping our country.” It’s true that racism and homophobia do not necessarily overlap - but as Rabbi Bernard Melchman explains, “Homophobia and anti-Semitism are so often part of the same disease.” Racists are usually homophobic. Even after reading all their web rantings, I didn’t feel any closer to understanding why so many gay men ally themselves with people who will almost always turn on them in the end, just as the Nazis did.
Gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell has a sensitive and intriguing explanation. “There are many reasons for this kind of thing,” he says. “Some of them are in denial. They are going for hyper-masculinity, the most extreme possible way of being a man. It’s a way of ostentatiously rejecting the perceived effeminacy of the homosexual ‘Other’. These troubled men have a simple belief in their minds: ‘Straight men are tough. Queers are weak. Therefore if I’m tough I can’t be queer.’ It’s a desperate way of proving their manhood.”
‘Searchlight’ magazine - the bible of the British anti-fascist movement, with moles in every major far-right organisation - offers an alternative explanation. “Generally condemned by a society that continues to be largely hostile to gays, some men may find refuge and a new power status in the far right,” one of their writers has explained. “Through adherence to the politics espoused by fascist groups, a new identity emerges - one where they aren’t outcasts, because they are White Men, superior to everyone else. They render the gay part of their identity invisible - or reject the socially less acceptable parts, like being feminine - while vaunting what they see as superior.”
But there’s another important question: will fascist movements inevitably turn on gay people? In the case of the Nazis, it seems to have been fairly arbitrary; Hitler’s main reason for killing Rohm was unrelated to his sexuality. From my perspective as a progressive-minded leftie, all fascism is evil; but should all gay people see it as inimical to their interests? Is it possible to have a gay fascist who wasn’t acting against his own interests? Fascism is often defined as “a political ideology advocating hierarchical government that systematically denies equality to certain groups.” It’s true that this hierarchy could benefit gay people at the expense of, say, black people. But given the prevalence of homophobia, isn’t that - even for people who don’t see fascism as inherently evil - a terrible risk to take? Won’t a culture that turns viciously on one minority get around to gay people in the end? This seems, ultimately, to be the lesson of Ernst Rohm’s pitiful, squalid little life.
The growing awareness of the role gay men play in fascist movements has been abused by some homophobes. In an especially nutty work of revisionist history called ‘The Pink Swastika’, the ‘historian’ Scott Lively tries to blame gay people for the entire Holocaust, and describes the murder of gay men in the camps as merely “gay-on-gay violence.” A typical website commenting on the book claims absurdly, “The Pink Swastika shows that there was far more brutality, rape, torture and murder committed against innocent people by Nazi homosexuals than there even was against homosexuals themselves.”
Yet we can’t allow these madmen to prevent a period of serious self-reflection from the gay movement. If Bruce LaBruce is right, many of the mainstream elements of gay culture - body worship, the lauding of the strong, a fetish for authority figures and cruelty - provide a swamp in which the fascist virus can thrive. Do some gay people really still need to learn that fascists will not bring on a Fabulous Solution for gay people, but a Final Solution for us all?
Johann Hari is a writer for the Independent newspaper. To read more of his articles, click here.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697
Thomas Michael Marks is a known Pedophile and Nazi.
The 54 year old Roseville, Minnesota White Nationalist
organizer has been arrested in an undercover Child-sex sting in
August, 1997. Marks answered an internet ad for a company in
Yuma, Arizona offering enticements of ”the young at heart.”
This is a known code phrase for those interested in sex with
children. The placed Ad was part of an undercover operation and
Marks was arrested after flying into Yuma and meeting with his
“sex-tour liaison” at a motel. According to court documents
Marks was interested in overnight stays with pre-teen girls and
booked a three day stay with several 8-year old girls. After
raiding his residence federal agents discovered child
pornography downloaded to his computer. Marks was a teacher
before getting arrested in the Child-sex sting.
Francis Joseph "Frank" Collin (born November 3, 1944 in
Chicago, Illinois) Midwest coordinator with the National
Socialist White People's Party. After being ousted for being
part Jewish (which he denied), Collin founded in 1970, the
National Socialist Party of America.[1] In the late 1970s, its
plan to march in the predominantly Jewish suburb of Skokie,
Illinois was challenged, but the ACLU defended its freedom of
speech and assembly in a case that reached the United States
Supreme Court. The court in National Socialist Party of America
v. Village of Skokie (1979), a major First Amendment decision,
ruled that the party had a right to march and to display a
swastika, despite local opposition. Collin was convicted and
sentenced in 1979 for child molestation.
Germany opens files on Chile sect run by Nazi pedophile‘For
many years… German diplomats looked the other way,’ concedes
foreign minister regarding abusive group Colonia Dignidad
http://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-opens-files-on-chile-sect-
run-by-nazi-pedophile/
Kevin Alfred Strom (born August 17, 1956) is an American White
nationalist, neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier, White separatist and
associate editor of National Vanguard. Strom resigned from
National Vanguard in July 2006,[1] but rejoined in 2012.
In 2008 Strom pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography
and was sentenced to 23 months in prison, of which he served
four months. He has posted as Topaz on USENET from time to time over the years spreading his lies and hatreds towards his cultural and intellectual betters the Jews.
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Nazis are pedophiles hang them.
August Kreis III: Sentenced to 50 Years For Child Molestation
Back in June 2008 we ran a story concerning neo-Nazi parents (one of whom we continue to refer to as "Nazi Mom") who had attended the first Aryan Guard march in Calgary. This particular couple, now divorced, hit the news when Child and Family Services removed the children from their home after "Nazi Mom" had sent her daughter to school with racist iconography scrawled in marker all over her daughter's arms. Despite attempting to regain custody, "Nazi Mom" never did regain her parental rights.
At the time the news hit the msm, the usual suspects jumped in to support "Nazi Mom" and "Nazi Dad." The most prominent included Paul Fromm and members of the Aryan Guard itself, but they also received some international support:
August Kreis III, the leader of the Aryan Nations, told the Winnipeg Free Press his organization is prepared to mobilize whatever resources are necessary -- including financial and legal -- to ensure the decision isn't allowed to stand. He said the case is unlike anything he's ever heard of and fears it will set a dangerous precedent across North America.
"We're all family people. If they can do this in Canada, how long until they are doing it down here?" Mr. Kreis said in an interview from his home in South Carolina.
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"The Canadians need to know we support this fight, that they are not alone. We're all over, and there are a lot of Canadians who feel the same way we do and are fed up with all this multiculturalism."
Mr. Kreis said he wouldn't advise his followers to turn their children into so-called "billboards" -- such as what is alleged to have happened in Winnipeg -- but added that's hardly grounds to have children removed from a home.
Mr. Kreis questions why similar seizures haven't been made of children being raised by homosexual or lesbian parents.
Ah, they are, "all family people" eh? Big supporters of the 14 words, no doubt.
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
It is such a relief that family men such as August Kreis are looking out for the welfare of "white" families and their children. Kreis himself was a family man having sired many children himself.
And just how well protected were the "white" children under Kreis' care?
Former Aryan Nations Leader Gets 50 Years For Child Rape
August Byron Kreis III, a one-time pre-eminent racist leader with ties to the Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus and the Aryan Nations, will spend the rest of his life in prison for child molestation.
The 61-year-old Kreis -- who lost both legs to diabetes and is now wheel-chair bound -- was sentenced Thursday to 50 years in prison after being found guilty by a jury in Lexington, S.C., of one count of criminal sexual conduct involving a child and two counts of committing lewd acts on a child.
The charges were related to repeated sexual abuse of two girls between the ages of 10 and 14 by the man who at one-time declared he was the hand-picked leader of the Aryan Nations, chosen to succeed the late Richard G. Butler.
But child rape conviction aside, Kreis wasn't about to let the opportunity to get the message out pass:
During the three-day trial, Kreis held up a sign to the jury, “Vote for Donald Trump.” That prompted his defense attorney to ask for a mistrial, but the judge rejected the attempt to derail the trial.
At sentencing Thursday afternoon, Kreis was back with an anti-Semitic rant and another plug for the Republican presidential candidate who is leading most current polls.
“I will always hate the Jew,” Kreis said in the courtroom. “This government is run by an evil group of people, and, please, ‘Vote for Trump!’”
An endorsement that we think even the Donald would refuse.
We think.
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2015/11/august-kreis-iii-sentenced-to-50-years.html
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KKK "Grand Dragon" molested his granddaughter
http://tinyurl.com/ou674td
Leading US neo-Nazi jailed for child porn possession
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom
More on neo-nazis and child porn
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7469180.stm
neo-Nazi leader shot dead by his 10 year old son whom he abused
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jeff_Hall
Frank Collin, leader of the National Socialist Party of America: pedophile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin
"Aryan Nations" leader, convicted of theft, is also a pedophile
http://tinyurl.com/q2qm743
Fugitive Nazis who built a paedophile paradise in the sun
http://tinyurl.com/p8sungc
neo-Nazi attacks women with hammer, gets 248-year sentence
http://tinyurl.com/pcblep5
http://tinyurl.com/oa55jxz
Notorious German Neo-Nazi Tino Brandt Charged With Child Abuse
Nazis were "sexually aroused by necrophilia, bestiality and sadism"
http://tinyurl.com/kppjbuc
White supremacist beat a five year old to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_W._Ryan
British neo-Nazis torture, murder 17 month old boy
http://tinyurl.com/nlddf8
British neo-Nazi sentenced to life for raping a two year old girl
http://tinyurl.com/o3obact
Child porn found on computer of neo-Nazi Holocaust Museum shooter
http://tinyurl.com/nqvkoba
White supremacists rob and murder a family, including an 8 year old girl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevie_Kehoe
British KKK "leader" is a convicted child molester
http://tinyurl.com/pcdav6g
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/ootdie/articles/wiw.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/opmajuf
Hungarian neo-Nazis murder four year old boy
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3835961.ece
BNP paedophile convicted
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-murderer-paedophile-convicted-22062012
And ANOTHER BNP paedophile convicted!
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-paedophile-jailed-13012006
White supremacist tortured and sexually assaulted teen stepdaughters
http://tinyurl.com/pucouny
Nigel Hesmondalgh, British neo-Nazi: jailed for possessing a series
of degrading photos and videos of children.
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/09/06/edl-sex-offenders-list/
Shaun Jones, British neo-Nazi: jailed for raping a 12 year old girl
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/updated-edl-nonce-list/
http://tinyurl.com/qxefndm
Kane Hutchinson, British neo-Nazi: jailed for abusing young boys
http://tinyurl.com/oc3zm2w
John Broomfield, British neo-Nazi: jailed for child abuse images
http://tinyurl.com/pxfq6ux
https://liveraf.wordpress.com/tag/john-broomfield/
Mervyn Jones, British neo-Nazi: 17 years for "sustained and prolific sex crimes"
http://tinyurl.com/q838xlf
http://tinyurl.com/oa87ea8
Darren Francis, British neo-Nazi: multiple sex offences, illegal drugs
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.il/2010/07/bnp-paedophile-every-parents-worst.html
James Mullen, British neo-Nazi, repeatedly kicked his pregnant girlfriend
in the stomach, attacked others, incl. a 10-year-old girl
http://tinyurl.com/pth57ou
Wayne McCurry, British neo-Nazi, convicted of attacking two 14-year-old girls
More on this sick nazoid animal: http://tinyurl.com/penov2z
Eliot Jones, British neo-Nazi, sentenced for blackmail and child abuse
Yes, business as usual with the nazoid sickos.
More in: http://tinyurl.com/p89ypar
Jeff Marsh, British neo-Nazi "leader", jailed for attacking a woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuals_United
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Crane Nicky Crane formed Blood and Honour a terrorist nazi group banned in many countries including Canada, USA and Spain. He spent 5 years in prison for violent crimes before dying of AIDS before his 40th birthday 18 months after coming out about his queerdom on TV.
You have such a empty, vacant life you read newsgroups about subjects that happen in places 5,000 miles away from you that you have no connection with. Oh wait you have no connection with anything nithling.
Gordon Radavitch is FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT like Jake Virtanen. Homosexuals out of team sports homosexuals out of the locker rooms. Quit beating off thinking of the high school qb or the team captain. Until this year no player in the big 6 team sports in Canada/USA was ever openly homosexual while a player. Jake Virtannen needs to go he is a borderline 4th liner who is not a team player or good in the room.
You pissed because you can't rape Croats and Kosovians anymore? The court at the Hague should investigate you for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia you are the right age for that.
Have another wretched, poverty stricken mediocre day Gordon Radavich you child raping ,child porn watching moronic dip.
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
Gordon Radavich is a second world Serbian dole boy. He is a chronic liar with no friends. His wife is an adulterous fat disgusting pig. Lots of felchers in London, England to ream your diseased ass' Gordon Radavich.
Loose Cannon aka Gordon Radavich [rado...@tiscali.co.uk] He uses various other nicks as well such as NEMO and Susan Cohen.
Radavich is so stupid he spelled his name wrong on his email addy. The email is valid. Feel free to contact his ISP about his anti-Black, anti-Jewish, anti-Asian posts to USENET and his general stupidity and off-topic posts to various ngs.
Population of earth: 7,442,000,000,000
Number of people superior to Gordon: 7,441,999,999,999"
"Police have arrested a Serbian national following a lengthy
investigation into anti-Semitic activities. Gordon Radavich, 51, a
satellite system installer, was arrested at his home in Albert Bridge
Road, Battersea, and charged with various offences under the Public
Order Act (1986) and Computer Misuse Act (1990). Several computers
and a number of foreign passports were removed from the premises for
forensic examination. After a preliminary hearing before Wandsworth
magistrates yesterday he was remanded in custody until 16th August."
Hope Brexit gets your child raping ass deported back to Serbia and away from the First World.
What a pathetic life you lead.
new.scot...@met.police. Metropolitan Police Service New Scotland Yard Broadway London SW1H 0BG. Tel: 020 7230 1212. Fax: 020 7230 4276.Contact these guys about his online support for Arab terrorists, rapists and pedophiles. His hatred and loathing and lies about Jews, Blacks, Asians and his fat wife.
Nazis are notorious queers like Ernst Rohm and yourself Gordon Radavich.
By Johann Hari, Guest Writer
The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists
10/21/2008 06:16 pm ET Updated May 25, 2011
The news that Jorg Haider - the Austrian fascist leader - spent his final few hours in a gay bar with a hot blond has shocked some people. It hasn’t shocked me. This is a taboo topic for a gay left-wing man like me to touch, but there has always been a weird, disproportionate overlap between homosexuality and fascism. Take a deep breath; here goes.
Some 10,000 gay people were slaughtered in the Nazi death-camps. Many more were humiliated, jailed, deported, ethnically cleansed, or castrated. One gay survivor of the camps, LD Classen von Neudegg, has written about his experiences. A snapshot: “Three men had tried to escape one night. They were captured, and when they returned they had the word ‘homo’ scrawled across their clothing. They were placed on a block and whipped. Then they were forced to beat a drum and cheer, ‘Hurrah! We’re back! Hurrah!’ Then they were hanged.” This is one of the milder events documented in his book.
So the idea of a gay fascist seems ridiculous. Yet when the British National Party - our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots - announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn’t blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was - including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It’s time to admit something. Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is - in part, at least - a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant platform, describing Islam as “a cancer” and “the biggest threat to Western civilisation today.” Yet with two little fluffy dogs and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied, “How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.”
Jorg Haider blasted Austria’s cosy post-Nazi politics to rubble in 2000 when his neo-fascist ‘Freedom Party’ won a quarter of the vote and joined the country’s government as a coalition partner. Several facts always cropped up in the international press coverage: his square jaw, his muscled torso, his SS-supporting father, his rabid anti-Semitism, his hatred of immigrants, his description of Auschwitz and Dachau as “punishment centres”. A few newspapers mentioned that he is always surrounded by fit, fanatical young men. A handful went further and pointed out that several of these young men are openly gay. Then one left-wing German paper broke the story everybody else was hinting at. They alleged Haider is gay.
Rumours of an Indian waiter with “intimate details” of Haider’s body broke into the press. The Freedom Party’s general manager Gerald Miscka quickly quit, amid accusations that he was Haider’s lover. Haider’s close gay friend Walter Kohler - who has been photographed showing off a holstered pistol while Haider chuckled - declared his opposition to outing politicians. Haider - who was married and has two children - kept quiet while his functionaries denied the rumours. The revelation that he died after leaving a gay bar suggests these rumours were true.
On and on it goes. If you inter-railed across Europe, only stopping with gay fascists, there aren’t many sights you’d miss. France’s leading post-war fascist was Edouard Pfieffer, who was not batting for the straight side. Germany’s leading neo-Nazi all through the eighties was called Michael Kuhnen; he died of AIDS in 1991 a few years after coming out. Martin Lee, author of a study of European fascism, explains, “For Kuhnen, there was something supermacho about being a Nazi, as well as being a homosexual, both of which enforced his sense of living on the edge, of belonging to an elite that was destined to make an impact. He told a West German journalist that homosexuals were ‘especially well-suited for our task, because they do not want ties to wife, children and family.’”
And it wouldn’t be long before your whistlestop tour arrived in Britain. At first glance, our Nazis seem militantly straight. They have tried to disrupt gay parades, describe gay people as “evil”, and BNP leader Nick Griffin reacted charmingly to the bombing of the Admiral Duncan pub in 1999 with a column saying, “The TV footage of gay demonstrators [outside the scene of carnage] flaunting their perversion in front of the world’s journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures repulsive.”
But scratch to homophobic surface and there’s a spandex swastika underneath. In 1999, Martin Webster, a former National Front organiser and head honcho in the British fascist movement, wrote a four-page pamphlet detailing his ‘affair’ with Nick Griffin. “Griffin sought out intimate relations with me,” openly-gay Webster explained, “in the late 1970s. He was twenty years younger than me.” Ray Hill, who infiltrated the British fascist movement for twelve years to gather information for anti-fascist groups, says it’s all too plausible. Homosexuality is “extremely prevalent” in the upper echelons of the British far right, and at one stage in the 1980s nearly half of the movement’s organisers were gay, he claims.
Gerry Gable, editor of the anti-fascist magazine ‘Searchlight’, explains, “I have looked at Britain’s Nazi groups for decades and this homophobic hypocrisy has been there all the time. I cannot think of any organisation on the extreme right that hasn’t attacked people on the grounds of their sexual preference and at the same time contained many gay officers and activists.”
Griffins’ alleged gay affair would stand in a long British fascist tradition. The leader of the skinhead movement all through the 1970s was a crazed, muscled thug called Nicky Crane. He was the icon of a reactionary backlash against immigrants, feminism and the ‘hippy’ lifetsyle of the 1960s. His movement’s emphasis on conformity to a shaven, dehumanised norm resembled classical fascist movements; Crane soon became a campaigner and leading figure in the National Front. Oh, and he was gay. Before he died of AIDS in the mid-1980s, Crane came out and admitted he had starred in many gay porn videos. Just before he died in 1986, he was allowed to steward a Gay Pride march in London, even though he still said he was “proud to be a fascist.”
The rubber-soled friction between gay fascists and progressive British gay people sparked into anger in 1985 when the Gay Skinhead Movement organised a disco at London’s Gay Centre. Several lesbians in particular objected to the “invasion” of the centre. They felt that the cult of “real men” and hypermasculine thugs was stirring up the most base feelings “in the very place, the gay movement, where you would least expect them.”
And this Gaystapo has an icon to revere, an alternative Fuhrer to worship: the lost gay fascist leader Ernst Rohm. Along with Adolf Hitler, Rohm was the founding father of Nazism. Born to conservative Bavarian civil servants in 1887, Ernst Rohm’s life began - in his view - in the “heroic” trenches of the First World War. Like so many of the generation who formed the Nazi Party, he was nurtured by and obsessed with the homoerotic myth of the trenches - heroic, beautiful boys prepared to die for their brothers and their country.
He emerged from the war with a bullet-scarred face and a reverence for war. As he put it in his autobiography, “Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than the good bourgeois order.” After being disbanded, he tried half-heartedly to get a foothold in civilian life, but he saw it as alien, bourgeois, boring. He had no political beliefs, only prejudices - particularly hatred of Jews. Historian Joachim Fest describes Rohm’s generation of alienated, demobbed young men humiliated by defeat as “agents of a permanent revolution without any revolutionary idea of the future, only a wish to eternalize the values of the trenches.”
It was Rohm who first spotted the potential of a soap-box ranter called Adolf Hitler. He saw him as the demagogue he needed to mobilize support for his plan to overthrow democracy and establish a “soldier’s state” where the army ruled untrammelled. He introduced the young fascist to local politicians and military leaders; they knew him for many years as “Rohm’s boy.” Gay historian Frank Rector notes, “Hitler was, to a substantial extent, Rohm’s protégé.” Rohm integrated Hitler into his underground movement to overthrow the Weimar Republic.
Rohm’s blatant, out homosexuality seems bizarre now, given the gay genocide that was to follow. He talked openly about his fondness for gay bars and Turkish baths, and was known for his virility. He believed that gay people were superior to straights, and saw homosexuality as a key principle of his proposed Brave New Fascist Order. As historian Louis Snyder explains, Rohm “projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute... He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people weren’t as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA.” They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning “hysterical women of both sexes”, in reference to feminine gay men.
This belief in the superiority of homosexuality had a strong German tradition that grew up at the turn of the twentieth century around Adolf Brand, publisher of the country’s first gay magazine. You could call it ‘Queer as Volk’: they preached that gay men were the foundation of all nation-states and represented an elite, warrior caste that should rule. They venerated the ancient warrior cults of Sparta, Thebes and Athens.
Rohm often referred to the ancient Greek tradition of sending gay solider couples into battle, because they were believed to be the most ferocious fighters. The famous pass of Thermopylae, for example was held by 300 soldiers - who consisted of 150 gay couples. In its early years, the SA - Hitler and Rohm’s underground army - was seen as predominantly gay. Rohm assigned prominent posts to his lovers, making Edmund Heines his deputy and Karl Ernst the SA commander in Berlin. The organisation would sometimes meet in gay bars. The gay art historian Christian Isermayer said in an interview, “I got to know people in the SA. They used to throw riotous parties even in 1933... I once attended one. It was quite well-behaved but thoroughly gay. But then, in those days, the SA was ultra-gay.”
On June 30th 1934, Rohm was awoken in a Berlin hotel by Hitler himself. He sprang to his feet and saluted, calling, “Heil Mein Fuhrer!” Hitler said simply, “You are under arrest,” and with that he left the room, giving orders for Rohm to be taken to Standelheim prison. He was shot that night. Rohm was the most high-profile kill in the massacre known as ‘the Night of the Long Knives’.
Rohm had been suspected by Hitler of disloyalty, but his murder began a massive crackdown on gay people. Heinrich Himmler, head of the Gestapo, described homosexuality as “a symptom of degeneracy that could destroy our race. We must return to the guiding Nordic principle: extermination of degenerates.”
German historian Lothar Machtan argues that Hitler had Rohm - and almost all of the large number of gay figures within the SA - killed to silence speculation about his own homosexual experiences. His ‘evidence’ for Hitler being gay is shaky and has been questioned by many historians, although some of his findings are at least suggestive. A close friend of Hitler’s during his teenager years, August Kubizek, alleged a “romantic” affair between them. Hans Mend, a despatch rider who served alongside Hitler in the First World War, claimed to have seen Hitler having sex with a man. Hitler was certainly very close to several gay men, and never seems to have had a normal sexual relationship with a woman, not even his wife, Eva Braun.
Rudolph Diels, the founder of the Gestapo, recorded some of Hitler’s private thoughts on homosexuality. “It had destroyed ancient Greece, he said. Once rife, it extended its contagious effects like an ineluctable law of nature to the best and most manly of characters, eliminating from the breeding pool the very men the Volk most needs.” This idea - that homosexuality is ‘contagious’ and, implicitly, tempting - is revealing.
Rohm is venerated on the Homo-Nazi sites that have bred on the internet like germs in a wound. They have names like Gays Against Semitism (with the charming acronym GAS), and the Aryan Resistance Corps (ARC). Their Rohmite philosophy is simple: while white men are superior to other races, gay men are “the masters of the Master Race”. They alone are endowed with the “capacity for pure male bonding” and the “superior intellect” that is needed for “a fascist revolution.” The ARC even organises holiday “get-togethers” for its members where “you can relax amongst the company of our fellow white brothers.”
So it’s fairly easy to establish that gay people are not inoculated from fascism. They have often been at its heart. This begs the bigger question: why? How did gay people - so often victims of oppression and hate - become integral to the most hateful and evil political movement of all? Is it just an extreme form of self-harm, the political equivalent to the gay kids who slash their own arms to ribbons out of self-hate?
Gay pornographer and film-maker Bruce LaBruce has one explanation. He claims that “all gay porn today is implictly fascist. Fascism is in our bones, because it’s all about glorifying white male supremacy and fetishizing domination, cruelty, power and monstrous authority figures.” He has tried to explore the relationship between homosexuality and fascism in his movies, beginning with ‘No Skin Off My Ass’ in 1991. In his disturbing 1999 film “Skin Flick’, a bourgeois gay couple - one black, one white - are sexually terrorised by a gang of gay skinheads who beat off to ‘Mein Kampf’ and beat up ‘femmes’. He implies that bourgeois gay norms quickly break down to reveal a fascist lurking underneath; the movie ends with the black character being raped in front of his half-aroused white lover, as the racist gang chant, “Fuck the monkey.”
I decided to track down some gay fascists and ask them directly. Wyatt Powers, director of the ARC, says, “I always knew in my heart racist and gay were both morally right. I don’t see any conflict between them. It’s only the Jew-owned gay press that tries to convince us that racialism is the same thing as homophobia. You can be an extreme nationalist and gay without any contradiction at all.”
One comment board on a gay racist website goes even further into racist lunacy. One gay man from Ohio says, “Even if you are gay and white, or retarded and white, YOU ARE WHITE, BOTTOM LINE! Instead of letting the white race go extinct because of worthless races such as the Africans or Mexicans popping out literally millions of babies a day, we have to fight this fucked up shit they are doing. They are raping our country.” It’s true that racism and homophobia do not necessarily overlap - but as Rabbi Bernard Melchman explains, “Homophobia and anti-Semitism are so often part of the same disease.” Racists are usually homophobic. Even after reading all their web rantings, I didn’t feel any closer to understanding why so many gay men ally themselves with people who will almost always turn on them in the end, just as the Nazis did.
Gay rights campaigner Peter Tatchell has a sensitive and intriguing explanation. “There are many reasons for this kind of thing,” he says. “Some of them are in denial. They are going for hyper-masculinity, the most extreme possible way of being a man. It’s a way of ostentatiously rejecting the perceived effeminacy of the homosexual ‘Other’. These troubled men have a simple belief in their minds: ‘Straight men are tough. Queers are weak. Therefore if I’m tough I can’t be queer.’ It’s a desperate way of proving their manhood.”
‘Searchlight’ magazine - the bible of the British anti-fascist movement, with moles in every major far-right organisation - offers an alternative explanation. “Generally condemned by a society that continues to be largely hostile to gays, some men may find refuge and a new power status in the far right,” one of their writers has explained. “Through adherence to the politics espoused by fascist groups, a new identity emerges - one where they aren’t outcasts, because they are White Men, superior to everyone else. They render the gay part of their identity invisible - or reject the socially less acceptable parts, like being feminine - while vaunting what they see as superior.”
But there’s another important question: will fascist movements inevitably turn on gay people? In the case of the Nazis, it seems to have been fairly arbitrary; Hitler’s main reason for killing Rohm was unrelated to his sexuality. From my perspective as a progressive-minded leftie, all fascism is evil; but should all gay people see it as inimical to their interests? Is it possible to have a gay fascist who wasn’t acting against his own interests? Fascism is often defined as “a political ideology advocating hierarchical government that systematically denies equality to certain groups.” It’s true that this hierarchy could benefit gay people at the expense of, say, black people. But given the prevalence of homophobia, isn’t that - even for people who don’t see fascism as inherently evil - a terrible risk to take? Won’t a culture that turns viciously on one minority get around to gay people in the end? This seems, ultimately, to be the lesson of Ernst Rohm’s pitiful, squalid little life.
The growing awareness of the role gay men play in fascist movements has been abused by some homophobes. In an especially nutty work of revisionist history called ‘The Pink Swastika’, the ‘historian’ Scott Lively tries to blame gay people for the entire Holocaust, and describes the murder of gay men in the camps as merely “gay-on-gay violence.” A typical website commenting on the book claims absurdly, “The Pink Swastika shows that there was far more brutality, rape, torture and murder committed against innocent people by Nazi homosexuals than there even was against homosexuals themselves.”
Yet we can’t allow these madmen to prevent a period of serious self-reflection from the gay movement. If Bruce LaBruce is right, many of the mainstream elements of gay culture - body worship, the lauding of the strong, a fetish for authority figures and cruelty - provide a swamp in which the fascist virus can thrive. Do some gay people really still need to learn that fascists will not bring on a Fabulous Solution for gay people, but a Final Solution for us all?
Johann Hari is a writer for the Independent newspaper. To read more of his articles, click here.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697
Thomas Michael Marks is a known Pedophile and Nazi.
The 54 year old Roseville, Minnesota White Nationalist
organizer has been arrested in an undercover Child-sex sting in
August, 1997. Marks answered an internet ad for a company in
Yuma, Arizona offering enticements of ”the young at heart.”
This is a known code phrase for those interested in sex with
children. The placed Ad was part of an undercover operation and
Marks was arrested after flying into Yuma and meeting with his
“sex-tour liaison” at a motel. According to court documents
Marks was interested in overnight stays with pre-teen girls and
booked a three day stay with several 8-year old girls. After
raiding his residence federal agents discovered child
pornography downloaded to his computer. Marks was a teacher
before getting arrested in the Child-sex sting.
Francis Joseph "Frank" Collin (born November 3, 1944 in
Chicago, Illinois) Midwest coordinator with the National
Socialist White People's Party. After being ousted for being
part Jewish (which he denied), Collin founded in 1970, the
National Socialist Party of America.[1] In the late 1970s, its
plan to march in the predominantly Jewish suburb of Skokie,
Illinois was challenged, but the ACLU defended its freedom of
speech and assembly in a case that reached the United States
Supreme Court. The court in National Socialist Party of America
v. Village of Skokie (1979), a major First Amendment decision,
ruled that the party had a right to march and to display a
swastika, despite local opposition. Collin was convicted and
sentenced in 1979 for child molestation.
Germany opens files on Chile sect run by Nazi pedophile‘For
many years… German diplomats looked the other way,’ concedes
foreign minister regarding abusive group Colonia Dignidad
http://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-opens-files-on-chile-sect-
run-by-nazi-pedophile/
Kevin Alfred Strom (born August 17, 1956) is an American White
nationalist, neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier, White separatist and
associate editor of National Vanguard. Strom resigned from
National Vanguard in July 2006,[1] but rejoined in 2012.
In 2008 Strom pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography
and was sentenced to 23 months in prison, of which he served
four months. He has posted as Topaz on USENET from time to time over the years spreading his lies and hatreds towards his cultural and intellectual betters the Jews.
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Nazis are pedophiles hang them.
August Kreis III: Sentenced to 50 Years For Child Molestation
Back in June 2008 we ran a story concerning neo-Nazi parents (one of whom we continue to refer to as "Nazi Mom") who had attended the first Aryan Guard march in Calgary. This particular couple, now divorced, hit the news when Child and Family Services removed the children from their home after "Nazi Mom" had sent her daughter to school with racist iconography scrawled in marker all over her daughter's arms. Despite attempting to regain custody, "Nazi Mom" never did regain her parental rights.
At the time the news hit the msm, the usual suspects jumped in to support "Nazi Mom" and "Nazi Dad." The most prominent included Paul Fromm and members of the Aryan Guard itself, but they also received some international support:
August Kreis III, the leader of the Aryan Nations, told the Winnipeg Free Press his organization is prepared to mobilize whatever resources are necessary -- including financial and legal -- to ensure the decision isn't allowed to stand. He said the case is unlike anything he's ever heard of and fears it will set a dangerous precedent across North America.
"We're all family people. If they can do this in Canada, how long until they are doing it down here?" Mr. Kreis said in an interview from his home in South Carolina.
....
"The Canadians need to know we support this fight, that they are not alone. We're all over, and there are a lot of Canadians who feel the same way we do and are fed up with all this multiculturalism."
Mr. Kreis said he wouldn't advise his followers to turn their children into so-called "billboards" -- such as what is alleged to have happened in Winnipeg -- but added that's hardly grounds to have children removed from a home.
Mr. Kreis questions why similar seizures haven't been made of children being raised by homosexual or lesbian parents.
Ah, they are, "all family people" eh? Big supporters of the 14 words, no doubt.
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
It is such a relief that family men such as August Kreis are looking out for the welfare of "white" families and their children. Kreis himself was a family man having sired many children himself.
And just how well protected were the "white" children under Kreis' care?
Former Aryan Nations Leader Gets 50 Years For Child Rape
August Byron Kreis III, a one-time pre-eminent racist leader with ties to the Ku Klux Klan, Posse Comitatus and the Aryan Nations, will spend the rest of his life in prison for child molestation.
The 61-year-old Kreis -- who lost both legs to diabetes and is now wheel-chair bound -- was sentenced Thursday to 50 years in prison after being found guilty by a jury in Lexington, S.C., of one count of criminal sexual conduct involving a child and two counts of committing lewd acts on a child.
The charges were related to repeated sexual abuse of two girls between the ages of 10 and 14 by the man who at one-time declared he was the hand-picked leader of the Aryan Nations, chosen to succeed the late Richard G. Butler.
But child rape conviction aside, Kreis wasn't about to let the opportunity to get the message out pass:
During the three-day trial, Kreis held up a sign to the jury, “Vote for Donald Trump.” That prompted his defense attorney to ask for a mistrial, but the judge rejected the attempt to derail the trial.
At sentencing Thursday afternoon, Kreis was back with an anti-Semitic rant and another plug for the Republican presidential candidate who is leading most current polls.
“I will always hate the Jew,” Kreis said in the courtroom. “This government is run by an evil group of people, and, please, ‘Vote for Trump!’”
An endorsement that we think even the Donald would refuse.
We think.
http://anti-racistcanada.blogspot.com/2015/11/august-kreis-iii-sentenced-to-50-years.html
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KKK "Grand Dragon" molested his granddaughter
http://tinyurl.com/ou674td
Leading US neo-Nazi jailed for child porn possession
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom
More on neo-nazis and child porn
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7469180.stm
neo-Nazi leader shot dead by his 10 year old son whom he abused
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Jeff_Hall
Frank Collin, leader of the National Socialist Party of America: pedophile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin
"Aryan Nations" leader, convicted of theft, is also a pedophile
http://tinyurl.com/q2qm743
Fugitive Nazis who built a paedophile paradise in the sun
http://tinyurl.com/p8sungc
neo-Nazi attacks women with hammer, gets 248-year sentence
http://tinyurl.com/pcblep5
http://tinyurl.com/oa55jxz
Notorious German Neo-Nazi Tino Brandt Charged With Child Abuse
Nazis were "sexually aroused by necrophilia, bestiality and sadism"
http://tinyurl.com/kppjbuc
White supremacist beat a five year old to death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_W._Ryan
British neo-Nazis torture, murder 17 month old boy
http://tinyurl.com/nlddf8
British neo-Nazi sentenced to life for raping a two year old girl
http://tinyurl.com/o3obact
Child porn found on computer of neo-Nazi Holocaust Museum shooter
http://tinyurl.com/nqvkoba
White supremacists rob and murder a family, including an 8 year old girl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevie_Kehoe
British KKK "leader" is a convicted child molester
http://tinyurl.com/pcdav6g
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/forthcb/ootdie/articles/wiw.shtml
http://tinyurl.com/opmajuf
Hungarian neo-Nazis murder four year old boy
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3835961.ece
BNP paedophile convicted
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-murderer-paedophile-convicted-22062012
And ANOTHER BNP paedophile convicted!
http://libcom.org/news/bnp-paedophile-jailed-13012006
White supremacist tortured and sexually assaulted teen stepdaughters
http://tinyurl.com/pucouny
Nigel Hesmondalgh, British neo-Nazi: jailed for possessing a series
of degrading photos and videos of children.
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/09/06/edl-sex-offenders-list/
Shaun Jones, British neo-Nazi: jailed for raping a 12 year old girl
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/updated-edl-nonce-list/
http://tinyurl.com/qxefndm
Kane Hutchinson, British neo-Nazi: jailed for abusing young boys
http://tinyurl.com/oc3zm2w
John Broomfield, British neo-Nazi: jailed for child abuse images
http://tinyurl.com/pxfq6ux
https://liveraf.wordpress.com/tag/john-broomfield/
Mervyn Jones, British neo-Nazi: 17 years for "sustained and prolific sex crimes"
http://tinyurl.com/q838xlf
http://tinyurl.com/oa87ea8
Darren Francis, British neo-Nazi: multiple sex offences, illegal drugs
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.co.il/2010/07/bnp-paedophile-every-parents-worst.html
James Mullen, British neo-Nazi, repeatedly kicked his pregnant girlfriend
in the stomach, attacked others, incl. a 10-year-old girl
http://tinyurl.com/pth57ou
Wayne McCurry, British neo-Nazi, convicted of attacking two 14-year-old girls
More on this sick nazoid animal: http://tinyurl.com/penov2z
Eliot Jones, British neo-Nazi, sentenced for blackmail and child abuse
Yes, business as usual with the nazoid sickos.
More in: http://tinyurl.com/p89ypar
Jeff Marsh, British neo-Nazi "leader", jailed for attacking a woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casuals_United
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Crane Nicky Crane formed Blood and Honour a terrorist nazi group banned in many countries including Canada, USA and Spain. He spent 5 years in prison for violent crimes before dying of AIDS before his 40th birthday 18 months after coming out about his queerdom on TV.
You have such a empty, vacant life you read newsgroups about subjects that happen in places 5,000 miles away from you that you have no connection with. Oh wait you have no connection with anything nithling.
Gordon Radavitch is FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT like Jake Virtanen. Homosexuals out of team sports homosexuals out of the locker rooms. Quit beating off thinking of the high school qb or the team captain. Until this year no player in the big 6 team sports in Canada/USA was ever openly homosexual while a player. Jake Virtannen needs to go he is a borderline 4th liner who is not a team player or good in the room.
You pissed because you can't rape Croats and Kosovians anymore? The court at the Hague should investigate you for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia you are the right age for that.
Have another wretched, poverty stricken mediocre day Gordon Radavich you child raping ,child porn watching moronic dip.
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
Gordon Radavich is a second world Serbian dole boy. He is a chronic liar with no friends. His wife is an adulterous fat disgusting pig. Lots of felchers in London, England to ream your diseased ass' Gordon Radavich.
Loose Cannon aka Gordon Radavich [rado...@tiscali.co.uk] He uses various other nicks as well such as NEMO and Susan Cohen.
Radavich is so stupid he spelled his name wrong on his email addy. The email is valid. Feel free to contact his ISP about his anti-Black, anti-Jewish, anti-Asian posts to USENET and his general stupidity and off-topic posts to various ngs.
Population of earth: 7,442,000,000,000
Number of people superior to Gordon: 7,441,999,999,999"
"Police have arrested a Serbian national following a lengthy
investigation into anti-Semitic activities. Gordon Radavich, 51, a
satellite system installer, was arrested at his home in Albert Bridge
Road, Battersea, and charged with various offences under the Public
Order Act (1986) and Computer Misuse Act (1990). Several computers
and a number of foreign passports were removed from the premises for
forensic examination. After a preliminary hearing before Wandsworth
magistrates yesterday he was remanded in custody until 16th August."
Hope Brexit gets your child raping ass deported back to Serbia and away from the First World.
What a pathetic life you lead.
Loose Cannon
Mar 3, 2021, 8:04:10 PM3/3/21
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 07:56:02 -0800 (PST), Greg Carr
<gregca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Drop dead you
<<<<< BACK-HANDED BITCH SLAP >>>>>
Answer the question!!!
<gregca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Drop dead you
<<<<< BACK-HANDED BITCH SLAP >>>>>
Answer the question!!!
Greg Carr
Mar 4, 2021, 6:06:52 AM3/4/21
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Why your fat, stupid wife not let touch her you stupid immigrant moron social pariah? Hey you are a coward a feeble senior citizen queen rubber wearing faggot. Why do the National Front reject you Slav immigrant poor welfare failure you know the Horst Wessel song by heart.? Why no pictures of you with family or friends on the Internet can't afford a digital camera you useless homo?
You have such a empty, vacant life you read newsgroups about subjects that happen in places 5,000 miles away from you that you have no connection with. Oh wait you have no connection with anything nithling.
Gordon Radavich is FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT like Jake Virtanen. Homosexuals out of team sports homosexuals out of the locker rooms. Quit beating off thinking of the high school qb or the team captain. Until this year no player in the big 6 team sports in Canada/USA was ever openly homosexual while a player. Jake Virtannen needs to go he is a borderline 4th liner who is not a team player or good in the room. Virtannen one point in 21 games what a useless waste of cap space the fags are cheering for you rainbow blonde nazi homos rubber fetish freeks love ya.
You pissed because you can't rape Croats and Kosovians anymore Gordon Radavich.? The court at the Hague should investigate you for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia you are the right age for that.
Have another wretched, poverty stricken mediocre day Gordon Radavich you child raping ,child porn watching moronic dip.
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
Gordon Radavich is a second world Serbian dole boy. He is a chronic liar with no friends. His wife is an adulterous fat disgusting pig. Lots of felchers in London, England to ream your diseased ass' Gordon Radavich.
Loose Cannon aka Gordon Radavich [rado...@tiscali.co.uk] He uses various other nicks as well such as NEMO and Susan Cohen.
Radavich is so stupid he spelled his name wrong on his email addy. The email is valid. Feel free to contact his ISP about his anti-Black, anti-Jewish, anti-Asian posts to USENET and his general stupidity and off-topic posts to various ngs.
Population of earth: 7,442,000,000,000
Number of people superior to Gordon: 7,441,999,999,999"
"Police have arrested a Serbian national following a lengthy
investigation into anti-Semitic activities. Gordon Radavich, 51, a
satellite system installer, was arrested at his home in Albert Bridge
Road, Battersea, and charged with various offences under the Public
Order Act (1986) and Computer Misuse Act (1990). Several computers
and a number of foreign passports were removed from the premises for
forensic examination. After a preliminary hearing before Wandsworth
magistrates yesterday he was remanded in custody until 16th August."
Hope Brexit gets your child raping ass deported back to Serbia and away from the First World.
What a pathetic life you lead.
All Nazis Must Hang. The Only Good Nazi Is A Dead One.
Glad Earl J Weber the Louisiana pedophile is dead Gordon Radavich lauded him on USENET. Neither of them ever had a child or did it with a even an average woman. Weber never saw a woman over 10 naked that's how fat catholics do it the poorest state in America. Both were/are chronic liars and totally racist against Blacks and dumber than the slime from a snail. Both lost the war they were involved in.
You have such a empty, vacant life you read newsgroups about subjects that happen in places 5,000 miles away from you that you have no connection with. Oh wait you have no connection with anything nithling.
You pissed because you can't rape Croats and Kosovians anymore Gordon Radavich.? The court at the Hague should investigate you for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia you are the right age for that.
Have another wretched, poverty stricken mediocre day Gordon Radavich you child raping ,child porn watching moronic dip.
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
Gordon Radavich is a second world Serbian dole boy. He is a chronic liar with no friends. His wife is an adulterous fat disgusting pig. Lots of felchers in London, England to ream your diseased ass' Gordon Radavich.
Loose Cannon aka Gordon Radavich [rado...@tiscali.co.uk] He uses various other nicks as well such as NEMO and Susan Cohen.
Radavich is so stupid he spelled his name wrong on his email addy. The email is valid. Feel free to contact his ISP about his anti-Black, anti-Jewish, anti-Asian posts to USENET and his general stupidity and off-topic posts to various ngs.
Population of earth: 7,442,000,000,000
Number of people superior to Gordon: 7,441,999,999,999"
"Police have arrested a Serbian national following a lengthy
investigation into anti-Semitic activities. Gordon Radavich, 51, a
satellite system installer, was arrested at his home in Albert Bridge
Road, Battersea, and charged with various offences under the Public
Order Act (1986) and Computer Misuse Act (1990). Several computers
and a number of foreign passports were removed from the premises for
forensic examination. After a preliminary hearing before Wandsworth
magistrates yesterday he was remanded in custody until 16th August."
Hope Brexit gets your child raping ass deported back to Serbia and away from the First World.
What a pathetic life you lead.
Glad Earl J Weber the Louisiana pedophile is dead Gordon Radavich lauded him on USENET. Neither of them ever had a child or did it with a even an average woman. Weber never saw a woman over 10 naked that's how fat catholics do it the poorest state in America. Both were/are chronic liars and totally racist against Blacks and dumber than the slime from a snail. Both lost the war they were involved in.
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