>>>>G > You overestimate your importance.
>>>>
>>>>DM > Which explains why you devoted hundreds
>>>>DM > of posts to spamming of misinformation about
>>>>DM > me, including where you think I live, fictional court
>>>>DM > cases involving me, my dead mother, false
>>>>DM > claims that I was adopted, etc.
>>>>
>>>>G > Do you really think the innocent act will work with me?
>>>>
>>>>DS > Just because you're a convicted criminal,
>>>>DS > grag, it doesn't mean everyone else is.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2007/06/10/news/porter_county/docc35=
>>>>ea9cd21c834f1862572f4007bfc11.txt
>>>>
>>>>Sunday, June 10, 2007
>>>>ARRESTS
>>>>Monday through Friday [ June 4 to June 8 ]
>>>>Battery David Moore, 36, Calumet City
>>>
>>>Wow, someone with the same first and last name (but different age and
>>>city)
>>>was arrested over a year ago. Old news.
>>>>David Daniel Moore court records:
>>>Which by definition has nothing to do with me, as this isn't my middle
>>>name. If anything, it implicates Ken, as he seems to now be claiming
>>>that
>>>that is his own name.
>>>>David D. Moore
>>>>DOB 9/26/70 850 Buffalo Avenue, Calumet City, IL
>>>>case 64D 060706FD 4989 Monday June 4th 2007
>>>>Class D Felony, Assault on somebody under 14 years old
>>>>pretrial was February 8th 8:30 for Mar 12 hearing
>>>>hearing rescheduled for July 22, 2008 at 8:30AM
>
>>>Which never happened, as the case in question was dismissed:
> Their latest feeble smokescreen is that the file was posted in .TIF format
> because it's somehow easier to alter in Photoshop.
David - why use a .tif format image? Almost NOBODY uses it. The image is
of such lousy quality as to be almost illegible.Any image is easy to alter
in photoshop. .tif no more or less so than others. The document gives every
sign of being questionable. Of course all of this raises an interesting
question. You "SWEAR" that you are not the same person in the case. For
almost a year you SWORE there was NO such case. Now there is, it's just not
you. If it is NOT you, why would they send YOU a copy?
> So now, I'm being accused of forging or altering an official court record,
> no doubt a felony offense, and risking jail time, all for some case in
> which I'm not involved in any way. LOL!
Oh Davey you are so full of shit. You were tossing around a FAKE
"affidavit" from a case a few years back you claimed was from my ex wife and
another from some fictional neighbors. Risking SERIOUS jail time? Moore you
ARE nothing if not amusing. Do you think the document police would arrest
you?
KRP > Oh Davey you are so full of [s]t. You were tossing
KRP > around a FAKE "affidavit" from a case a few years
KRP > back you claimed was from my ex wife and
KRP > another from some fictional neighbors. Risking
KRP > SERIOUS jail time? Moore you ARE nothing if
KRP > not amusing. Do you think the document police
KRP > would arrest you?
Dave, If you rip off one of those tags from a mattress or pillow
that says "under penalty of law, do not remove this tag"
what do you think happens? Do the mattress police
suddenly pop out of a closet?
"freedom" <about...@aboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:LT9K6LQK396...@reece.net.au...
> All of those "questions" could be answered easily, by simply ordering the
> document for oneself from the court clerk in Indiana. But then, you're
> counting on the fact that most people won't bother to do so, in a
> desperate
> effort to save face and to get a little more mileage out of your lie.
I could IF I was anywhere near as obsessed with you as you are with me.
All the dirt, thrown in your face by the people who are supposedly
obsessed with you, pangborn, are your own lies and fabrications.
If you stopped lying, and I know you can't, everyone who throws your
lies in your face would have nothing to do.
I suggest you start looking for a diving helmet.
I had no problem reading it.
>Any image is easy to alter
>in photoshop. .tif no more or less so than others. The document gives every
>sign of being questionable.
Only within the confines of your drunken stupors.
>Of course all of this raises an interesting
>question. You "SWEAR" that you are not the same person in the case. For
>almost a year you SWORE there was NO such case. Now there is, it's just not
>you. If it is NOT you, why would they send YOU a copy?
When did he claim there is no such case?
Why did law enforcement from Illinois and Florida send you
information on the case? You claimed they did.
>
>> So now, I'm being accused of forging or altering an official court record,
>> no doubt a felony offense, and risking jail time, all for some case in
>> which I'm not involved in any way. LOL!
>
> Oh Davey you are so full of shit. You were tossing around a FAKE
>"affidavit" from a case a few years back you claimed was from my ex wife and
>another from some fictional neighbors. Risking SERIOUS jail time? Moore you
>ARE nothing if not amusing. Do you think the document police would arrest
>you?
>
>
Pretending it is fake (it's possible, though nothing has been
presented to support the idea), how it's used would be a factor in its
legality.
Even if fake, posting it to a personal web site and linking to
it isn't likely to be illegal.
If anyone knows of a law that would make it illegal, please
educate me.
"3 year old GIRL Kunt."
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, of KRP Consulting and The A-Team,
commenting on a three-year-old girl's vagina.
Message-ID: <78RZj.7110$3j.6866@trnddc05>
[...]
>> > So now, I'm being accused of forging or altering an official court record,
>> > no doubt a felony offense, and risking jail time, all for some case in
>> > which I'm not involved in any way. LOL!
>
>KRP > Oh Davey you are so full of [s]t. You were tossing
>KRP > around a FAKE "affidavit" from a case a few years
>KRP > back you claimed was from my ex wife and
>KRP > another from some fictional neighbors. Risking
>KRP > SERIOUS jail time? Moore you ARE nothing if
>KRP > not amusing. Do you think the document police
>KRP > would arrest you?
>
>Dave, If you rip off one of those tags from a mattress or pillow
>that says "under penalty of law, do not remove this tag"
>what do you think happens? Do the mattress police
>suddenly pop out of a closet?
Are you really as stupid as you present yourself?
The tag reads, "Under penalty of law this tag not to be removed
EXCEPT BY THE CONSUMER." (emphasis added).
BTW, I quote the tag I just tore off a pillow I bought earlier
today.
"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
-- Gregory Scott Hanson telling Usenet he's a FOUNDED child abuser.
Message-ID: <35120b16.04011...@posting.google.com>
Some people obviously need to get the facts straight. Especially the
guy who said that the charge was for putting a 3 year old girl in the
hospital. No girl was involved in the case in any way. The
accusation involved my stepson, and it was blown completely out of
proportion, mostly thanks to a family member with her own motives.
Whatever, the case was dismissed, so I don't see why its so worthy of
so much discussion on this site.
What it looks like to me is that you have a David Moore who is a
member here and someone got him mixed up with me. You do know that
there are like 50000 people with this name, don't you? So this other
David has an axe to grind with the Tampa lawyer guy, this has nothing
to do with me.
OH MY GOD!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>Yes the document is genuine. I know this because I'm the person who
>was accused. What I don't understand is why some nut from Florida is
>fixated on me.
I don't know if you are the person who was charged or not, but
there is enough posted to show you know about the case.
>
>Some people obviously need to get the facts straight. Especially the
>guy who said that the charge was for putting a 3 year old girl in the
>hospital. No girl was involved in the case in any way.
Sadly, Kenneth Robert Pangborn has a very hard time being honest.
It was shown, months ago, the alleged victim was a 10 year old
boy. Kenneth Robert Pangborn HAD to lie about the age and gender of
the child.
>The
>accusation involved my stepson, and it was blown completely out of
>proportion, mostly thanks to a family member with her own motives.
Not to worry. Auntie is learning her lesson. I hope.
>Whatever, the case was dismissed, so I don't see why its so worthy of
>so much discussion on this site.
Kenneth Robert Pangborn is OBSESSED with anyone and everyone named
David Moore.
>
>What it looks like to me is that you have a David Moore who is a
>member here and someone got him mixed up with me. You do know that
>there are like 50000 people with this name, don't you? So this other
>David has an axe to grind with the Tampa lawyer guy, this has nothing
>to do with me.
Kenneth Robert Pangborn isn't a lawyer. I've never seen him
claim to be one.
He's a con man from the Tampa area.
"Miranda was a STUPID WASTE OF TIME AND DID NOTHING!"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting and The A-Team.
Isn't it nice when you can offer yourself your WHOLEHEARTED support Moore?
Roberta - you are PATHETIC................ Just to PLAY with you, our
resident "COMPUTER HATCHER" - over the 30+ years I have consulted on CPS
cases, it is sometimes FUN (as in hilarity) to track what a social worker's
history is. In one case we had this SOCIAL WORKER, bastion of ALL
knowledge, offered her "EXPERT OPINION" that our client a young mother was
"UNFIT" because she gave her young children WHOLE MILK. And "everyone knows
how UNHEALTHY whole milk is with the high butterfat." But in a case she
testified in just the month before she testified that a single dad was UNFIT
because he was giving his children 2% milk and "everyone knows that young
children NEED whole milk."
Why bring this up? Because the F-ing game is RIGGED Roberta. It is a GAME -
damned if you do, damned if you don't. The same thing can be highly
detrimental or highly beneficial depending on the mood of the social worker.
On which side she has picked. It's all a game, something like putting a live
chicken in a burlap bag and hurling it into the air to see what happens when
it lands.
WTF?? You are equating drinking milk to forcing an unrelated 6 yr old
into a cold shower?
If the poster is the David Moore we know from Usenet, then you
have a real problem. It wasn't posted from Illinois.
>
>"Firemonkey" <firemo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:92ee9214-f7d7-465f...@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>On Jul 30, 5:49 pm, Firemonkey <firemonke...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> snip gags bs
>>
>> Following is gag explaining away forcing his girlfriends 6 yr old
>> daughter to take cold showers for wetting accidents that were most
>> likely caused by gags abuse of her in the first place.
>
>
>Roberta - you are PATHETIC................ Just to PLAY with you, our
>resident "COMPUTER HATCHER" - over the 30+ years I have consulted on CPS
>cases, it is sometimes FUN (as in hilarity) to track what a social worker's
>history is. In one case we had this SOCIAL WORKER, bastion of ALL
>knowledge, offered her "EXPERT OPINION" that our client a young mother was
>"UNFIT" because she gave her young children WHOLE MILK. And "everyone knows
>how UNHEALTHY whole milk is with the high butterfat." But in a case she
>testified in just the month before she testified that a single dad was UNFIT
>because he was giving his children 2% milk and "everyone knows that young
>children NEED whole milk."
Can you offer a cite for both cases?
>
>Why bring this up?
Because you want to distract from the truth that the only
supporter you have tried to rationalize his abuse of a six-year-old
girl.
You've failed. Trying to claim his FORCING the child to take a
cold show is fine because he had CHOSEN to take them won't justify his
actions.
> Because the F-ing game is RIGGED Roberta. It is a GAME -
>damned if you do, damned if you don't. The same thing can be highly
>detrimental or highly beneficial depending on the mood of the social worker.
>On which side she has picked. It's all a game, something like putting a live
>chicken in a burlap bag and hurling it into the air to see what happens when
>it lands.
>
Why am I not surprised that you would use animal cruelty as an
example?
--
Me:
>> Outside of your drunken stupor, and the mental illness you have
>> admitted it caused, I'm not a justice.
Kenneth Robert Pangborn:
>NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
Kenneth Robert Pangborn, admitting he's an alcoholic.
See Message-ID: <kjsf449973e8lmqj9...@4ax.com>
Not exactly Bobbiee. What I am saying is that one social worker would
see making a child take a cold shower as THE most horrid child abuse ever,
and another might see it as not that big a deal. To one all life has ended,
to the other it is nothing serious.
NOW - Roberta - IF you were able to document to us that while this
shower was going on there was some SEXUAL contact then I might understand
your "HYSTERIA" a bit more generously. Otherwise - I just chalk it up to you
being a bit nuts.
Dufus, gag posted that the little girl told the worker that he had
been "washing" her privates with his bare hands.
The only hysteria this group sees if from you.
My being nuts or not, it doesn't change what gag has freely posted to
this group.
No. The girl never said that.
The caseworker PRETENDED that the girl said that.
The caseworker LIED. I knew that as she said it.
I chastized her for the lie, and taunted her about how
she had watched one too many TV cop shows.
The BRILLIANT caseworker thought that by telling
this LIE she could get a confession out of me.
Right, you say she pretended, LOL. We should believe you because????
Tell us why, again, you were so upset you could'nt view the sexual
abuse examine video?
G > No. The girl never said that.
G > The caseworker PRETENDED that the girl said that.
G > The caseworker LIED. I knew that as she said it.
G > I chastized her for the lie, and taunted her about how
G > she had watched one too many TV cop shows.
G >
G > The BRILLIANT caseworker thought that by telling
G > this LIE she could get a confession out of me.
F > Right, you say she pretended, LOL.
F > We should believe you because????
Because you LIED about what I said, and got caught at it.
Posturing now that I lied is natural for you.
F > Tell us why, again, you were so
F > upset you could'nt view the sexual
F > abuse examine video?
They don't video the Gyno on a little girl.
They video an interview with the child, done by an unqualified person.
How does demanding this conflict with Dan's advice?
Tell me, does Dan advise people not to examine
or cross examine all evidence used against them?
You're always immensely helpful to Dan! LOL
By Greg's own standards he molested the girl. I don't know if it
happened while she was a victim of his other forms of abuse.
"Miranda was a STUPID WASTE OF TIME AND DID NOTHING!"
-- Kenneth Robert Pangborn of KRP Consulting and The A-Team.
>> < WTF?? You are equating drinking milk to forcing an unrelated 6 yr old
>> < into a cold shower?
>>
>> Not exactly Bobbiee. What I am saying is that one social worker would
>> see making a child take a cold shower as THE most horrid child abuse ever,
>> and another might see it as not that big a deal. To one all life has ended,
>> to the other it is nothing serious.
>>
>> NOW - Roberta - IF you were able to document to us that while this
>> shower was going on there was some SEXUAL contact then I might understand
>> your "HYSTERIA" a bit more generously. Otherwise - I just chalk it up to you
>> being a bit nuts.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Dufus, gag posted that the little girl told the worker that he had
>been "washing" her privates with his bare hands.
And by the very standards to which Gregory Scott Hanson holds for
others, he is guilty of molestation. Someone in a position of
authority made the charge, so it MUST be true.
Even without applying Greg's standards, Greg did express interest
in a friend's little girl. He's also expressed an interest in my
underage daughter.
And let's not forget his asking about one of my female students,
who was 11 or 12 years old at the time.
>The only hysteria this group sees if from you.
There's Greg when he tries to rationalize his conflicting
standards.
>My being nuts or not, it doesn't change what gag has freely posted to
>this group.
Very true. Greg posted what Greg posted. And several of his
posts are consistent with someone who is sexually interested in
underage females. None are in conflict.
By YOUR standards, you committed the act. Reference the puppet
bear case.
Good point. Since he's not a parent or legal guardian, he would
have NO right to see it unless the matter went to trial.
Parents suspected of sexual abuse may not have the right either,
unless the matter goes to trial.
--
Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons...
for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
>F > Dufus, gag posted that the little girl
>F > told the worker that he had been
>F > "washing" her privates with his bare hands.
>
>G > No. The girl never said that.
>G > The caseworker PRETENDED that the girl said that.
>G > The caseworker LIED. I knew that as she said it.
>G > I chastized her for the lie, and taunted her about how
>G > she had watched one too many TV cop shows.
>G >
>G > The BRILLIANT caseworker thought that by telling
>G > this LIE she could get a confession out of me.
>
>F > Right, you say she pretended, LOL.
>F > We should believe you because????
>
>Because you LIED about what I said, and got caught at it.
>Posturing now that I lied is natural for you.
Truth is natural for most. That it's unnatural for you is
excepted.
>
>F > Tell us why, again, you were so
>F > upset you could'nt view the sexual
>F > abuse examine video?
>
>They don't video the Gyno on a little girl.
>They video an interview with the child, done by an unqualified person.
How do you know the person was unqualified?
>
>How does demanding this conflict with Dan's advice?
Did Dan suggest you demand to see the video?
I find your proposal that he did so before knowing you exist hard
to accept.
>
>Tell me, does Dan advise people not to examine
>or cross examine all evidence used against them?
Did Dan offer you this advice in your case, long before he knew
of your existence?
If so, please offer the evidence of it. If not, please explain
why you are once again using deceptive innuendo. I'd really like to
know the reason.
>
>You're always immensely helpful to Dan! LOL
That you are trying to imply Dan gave you advice about your case
long before he met you isn't helping you at all.
KW > If anyone would know, it would be you. You do have two
KW > convictions for beating your ex-wife.
I wonder IF SUPREME COURT JUSTICE WILLS can tell the difference between a
"MISDEMEANOR" and HIS felony convictions?
Felony convictions? Plural?
Gee, the web site Greg likes to claim is about one of the people
he thinks is me only lists one.
Where can I, and anyone else interested, find at least one more?
Oh wait, you're just lying. Still.
From:
"Kenneth R. Pangborn, MS" <pang...@a-team.org>
To:
witc...@yahoogroups.com
James Giglio wrote:
> "Exhibit 23" makes no sense. Apparently, my name is on it, along with
> Michelle Deveraux and Chris Barden. Can anybody explain?
>
I feel so hurt. Diana doesn't even name me. Doesn't she know how
important I am?
Message-ID:<4891B76D...@a-team.org>