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Jun 25, 2002, 10:17:11 PM6/25/02
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Ronald Helm <drs...@earthlink.net> wrote in
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> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:37:06 GMT, ccf...@lcii.net opined in this
> august newsgroup:
>
>>For the first time ever I've had to use the killfile feature for some
>>posters in this group. It was nice and clean while it lasted <sigh>
>
> Yes, and all because some idiot actually recommended that people cross
> post. This stupid thread is cross posted from alt.true-crime and is
> not even being read in this newsgroup. Is it possible to killfile
> cross posted messages?

Ron, I'd think that someone who sets himself up as the defacto "owner" of a
Usenet group would be capable of reading for comprehension. I am a little
alarmed to discover that this isn't the case with you.

Responsible cross-posting, of material relevant to the groups involved, is
a standard feature of Usenet, and has been from the time the first NNTP
packet flashed through the backbone lines.

I advocated responsible cross-posting. I pointed you to a FAQ, written by
an expert on Usenet, that advocated responsible cross-posting. If you
disagree with Skirvin, then I suggest you go to alt.configure and talk to
him. You tell him that his FAQ is "unadualterated bullshit". See what he
says.

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Ross

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Jun 26, 2002, 9:40:38 AM6/26/02
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"spo...@petitmorte.net" <spo...@petitmorte.net> wrote in
news:Xns9238C419888...@207.14.113.17:

> Ronald Helm <drs...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:1i6ehusco0asttu54...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:37:06 GMT, ccf...@lcii.net opined in this
>> august newsgroup:
>>
>>>For the first time ever I've had to use the killfile feature for some
>>>posters in this group. It was nice and clean while it lasted <sigh>
>>
>> Yes, and all because some idiot actually recommended that people
>> cross post. This stupid thread is cross posted from alt.true-crime
>> and is not even being read in this newsgroup. Is it possible to
>> killfile cross posted messages?
>
> Ron, I'd think that someone who sets himself up as the defacto "owner"
> of a Usenet group would be capable of reading for comprehension. I am
> a little alarmed to discover that this isn't the case with you.

Oh dear. Do we have another "Usenet Group Owner(tm)"? Perhaps he should
be introduced to Edmond Wollmann.

> Responsible cross-posting, of material relevant to the groups
> involved, is a standard feature of Usenet, and has been from the time
> the first NNTP packet flashed through the backbone lines.
>
> I advocated responsible cross-posting. I pointed you to a FAQ, written
> by an expert on Usenet, that advocated responsible cross-posting. If
> you disagree with Skirvin, then I suggest you go to alt.configure and
> talk to him. You tell him that his FAQ is "unadualterated bullshit".
> See what he says.

<snarf!> Now that is a post and a response I'd like to see! Tim has had
more than a few people try to tell him a thing or two about Usenet...what
collects under his fingernails has more knowlege of the Internet than any
of his detractors.


R.


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spo...@petitmorte.net

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Jun 27, 2002, 1:15:29 AM6/27/02
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Ross <Ro...@SingingFrog.com> wrote in
news:Xns9239626...@207.35.177.134:

> "spo...@petitmorte.net" <spo...@petitmorte.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9238C419888...@207.14.113.17:
>
>> Ronald Helm <drs...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:1i6ehusco0asttu54...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 03:37:06 GMT, ccf...@lcii.net opined in this
>>> august newsgroup:
>>>
>>>>For the first time ever I've had to use the killfile feature for
>>>>some posters in this group. It was nice and clean while it lasted
>>>><sigh>
>>>
>>> Yes, and all because some idiot actually recommended that people
>>> cross post. This stupid thread is cross posted from alt.true-crime
>>> and is not even being read in this newsgroup. Is it possible to
>>> killfile cross posted messages?
>>
>> Ron, I'd think that someone who sets himself up as the defacto
>> "owner" of a Usenet group would be capable of reading for
>> comprehension. I am a little alarmed to discover that this isn't the
>> case with you.
>
> Oh dear. Do we have another "Usenet Group Owner(tm)"? Perhaps he
> should be introduced to Edmond Wollmann.

We do indeed, but since Ron is a real, honest to goodness doctor, and since
the purpose of our discussion was enlightenment of Ron, and not to mess
with alt.crime, a visit from Edddddddie and his legions of fans wouldn't be
appropriate.



>> Responsible cross-posting, of material relevant to the groups
>> involved, is a standard feature of Usenet, and has been from the time
>> the first NNTP packet flashed through the backbone lines.
>>
>> I advocated responsible cross-posting. I pointed you to a FAQ,
>> written by an expert on Usenet, that advocated responsible
>> cross-posting. If you disagree with Skirvin, then I suggest you go
>> to alt.configure and talk to him. You tell him that his FAQ is
>> "unadualterated bullshit". See what he says.
>
> <snarf!> Now that is a post and a response I'd like to see! Tim has
> had more than a few people try to tell him a thing or two about
> Usenet...what collects under his fingernails has more knowlege of the
> Internet than any of his detractors.

Perhaps Ron will consider doing as I have suggested. I'd expect a man of
medicine to be open to learning new things.

At one time, practitioners of his science believed that "bad humors" caused
illness. That was as correct as is Ron's beliefs about cross-posting.

An intelligent man doesn't run away from new knowledge.

Ross

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Jun 27, 2002, 6:52:56 AM6/27/02
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"spo...@petitmorte.net" <spo...@petitmorte.net> wrote in
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> Ross <Ro...@SingingFrog.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9239626...@207.35.177.134:
>

[...]


>>
>> Oh dear. Do we have another "Usenet Group Owner(tm)"? Perhaps he
>> should be introduced to Edmond Wollmann.
>
> We do indeed, but since Ron is a real, honest to goodness doctor, and
> since the purpose of our discussion was enlightenment of Ron, and not
> to mess with alt.crime, a visit from Edddddddie and his legions of
> fans wouldn't be appropriate.

I agree. Eddie is not in a very good mood lately. All those damn spinics.

[...]



>> <snarf!> Now that is a post and a response I'd like to see! Tim has
>> had more than a few people try to tell him a thing or two about
>> Usenet...what collects under his fingernails has more knowlege of the
>> Internet than any of his detractors.
>
> Perhaps Ron will consider doing as I have suggested. I'd expect a man
> of medicine to be open to learning new things.

One would hope. Being a Med School grad, unfortunately, does not guarantee
that that he will be accepting of new ideas, especially in a field very
different from his own.

> At one time, practitioners of his science believed that "bad humors"
> caused illness.

Ah yes, leeches were a wonderful therapy...for just about nothing.

> That was as correct as is Ron's beliefs about cross-posting.

Well, we could try putting leeches on a firewall to see if they could stop
a SYN flood attack.

> An intelligent man doesn't run away from new knowledge.

...nor disparage someone with greater knowledge in another field of study
and research.

R

--
"I'm less of a neurotic perfectionist than I was. But I don't think that
anyone who has done good work in their life isn't a perfectionist. You
have to be."
-- John Cleese

spo...@petitmorte.net

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Jun 28, 2002, 1:29:29 AM6/28/02
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Ross <Ro...@SingingFrog.com> wrote in
news:Xns923A45F...@206.172.150.14:

> "spo...@petitmorte.net" <spo...@petitmorte.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9239E254568...@207.14.113.17:
>
>> Ross <Ro...@SingingFrog.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9239626...@207.35.177.134:
>>
> [...]
>>>
>>> Oh dear. Do we have another "Usenet Group Owner(tm)"? Perhaps he
>>> should be introduced to Edmond Wollmann.
>>
>> We do indeed, but since Ron is a real, honest to goodness doctor, and
>> since the purpose of our discussion was enlightenment of Ron, and not
>> to mess with alt.crime, a visit from Edddddddie and his legions of
>> fans wouldn't be appropriate.
>
> I agree. Eddie is not in a very good mood lately. All those damn
> spinics.

Awww.. has Eddddieeee seen his Amazon ratings again?



> [...]
>
>>> <snarf!> Now that is a post and a response I'd like to see! Tim
>>> has had more than a few people try to tell him a thing or two about
>>> Usenet...what collects under his fingernails has more knowlege of
>>> the Internet than any of his detractors.
>>
>> Perhaps Ron will consider doing as I have suggested. I'd expect a
>> man of medicine to be open to learning new things.
>
> One would hope. Being a Med School grad, unfortunately, does not
> guarantee that that he will be accepting of new ideas, especially in a
> field very different from his own.

Well, he was right proud to pronounce Tim Skirvin's FAQ as "unadulterated
bullshit". So clearly he thinks he knows about these things. He must to
know better than Tim, right?

>> At one time, practitioners of his science believed that "bad humors"
>> caused illness.
>
> Ah yes, leeches were a wonderful therapy...for just about nothing.

But the leeches were very happy campers.



>> That was as correct as is Ron's beliefs about cross-posting.
>
> Well, we could try putting leeches on a firewall to see if they could
> stop a SYN flood attack.

Brilliant idea! I wonder if Medicare will cover that kind of therapy?



>> An intelligent man doesn't run away from new knowledge.
>
> ...nor disparage someone with greater knowledge in another field of
> study and research.

Dat's da troOf!

Ross

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Jun 28, 2002, 6:39:41 AM6/28/02
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"spo...@petitmorte.net" <spo...@petitmorte.net> wrote in
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> Well, he was right proud to pronounce Tim Skirvin's FAQ as
> "unadulterated bullshit". So clearly he thinks he knows about these
> things. He must to know better than Tim, right?

Well, Tim is not known to suffer fools gladly, so I would be curious about
his reaction to this pronouncement.

R.

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