Since the announcement of Wheale's arrest, several women have come
forward to report that he raped and beat them, attacks that they were
afraid to report to police. Wheale denies all these charges, saying
that the sex was always consensual (including the acts that left Regina
Carr dead), that the women were all upset when he told them to go home
and are crying rape now out of their anger.
Carr met Wheale in a bar and offered him a ride home. She had been out
with friends, her husband having died the year before (I read earlier
that he had died from cancer; today's paper says he was killed in a car
accident), and it was unusual for her to be out at a bar. Witnesses
identified Wheale as the man who left with Carr. He is
striking-looking, big, dark, with ice-blue eyes. He had been described
as "very handsome" in newspaper stories, but the accompanying pictures
did not seem very handsome to me--they were all full frontal, and he
looked sort of like Skeletor--but there was a profile shot in the paper
over the weekend, and he looks to me a little like the actor Ray Liotta.
Anyway, his looks are such, apparently, that he does make an impression
on witnesses, a disadvantage to the career criminal imho.
What Wheale says happened with Carr is this: she was performing oral
sex on him as he sat in the driver's seat of her car. She was
straddling the floor-mounted gearshift (this is to explain the vaginal
and rectal cuts she suffered) while performing this blowjob on his
mammoth member. His penis is so big, Wheale reports, that she not only
choked on it (the strangulation) but bobbing her head up and down on
such a *large* object made the back of her head bang into the steering
wheel (the beating about the head and neck). This explanation was in
Wheale's statement to police, so I would imagine that the state would
want some evidence of the size of Wheale's package, so that the jurors
(ten women, two men from Lancaster County--the Amish haven't heard of
oral sex, I guess, and are untainted) can judge for themselves the
likelihood of this having happened as Wheale says it did. I think, in
fact, that Wheale himself ought to be eager to expose himself to the
jury if he is, indeed, such a whale of a guy.
The only witness who testified yesterday was a 26-year-old woman who
says that Wheale attacked her after she gave him a ride home from a bar.
She said she thought he was really attractive (and had a trace of an
Irish accent--where did *that* come from?) and was hoping he would ask
for her phone number. He invited her up to his apartment, and she went,
still hoping to be asked for a date. He suddenly, she says, told her he
wanted to kiss her--now--and began to tear her clothes off. She fought,
trying to hold on to furniture and the kitchen counter, but he was too
strong, and he raped her. Then he told her that it was probably the
best sex she would ever have and asked, mockingly, if she had any
brothers who were going to come beat him up. The woman went to a
hospital for treatment immediately, and police were summoned, but she
refused to press charges because she was so embarrassed, and because she
did not want her parents to find out because, she said, they would say
it was her fault and would never let her forget it. She said that she
has never told her parents.
Wheale's attorney suggested in cross-examination that the woman had
"turned" on Wheale after he made her leave at 5 a.m. because his
pregnant girlfriend was coming to pick him up for work (think of the
rapes that might have been averted if this guy had had his own car!),
that she had enjoyed a night of consensual sex with his client.
I imagine that this is a well-attended trial--wish I could be there.
Martha
Martha wrote:
> What Wheale says happened with Carr is this: she was performing oral
> sex on him as he sat in the driver's seat of her car. She was
> straddling the floor-mounted gearshift (this is to explain the vaginal
> and rectal cuts she suffered) while performing this blowjob on his
> mammoth member. His penis is so big, Wheale reports, that she not only
> choked on it (the strangulation) but bobbing her head up and down on
> such a *large* object made the back of her head bang into the steering
> wheel (the beating about the head and neck). This explanation was in
> Wheale's statement to police, so I would imagine that the state would
> want some evidence of the size of Wheale's package, so that the jurors
> (ten women, two men from Lancaster County--the Amish haven't heard of
> oral sex, I guess, and are untainted) can judge for themselves the
> likelihood of this having happened as Wheale says it did. I think, in
> fact, that Wheale himself ought to be eager to expose himself to the
> jury if he is, indeed, such a whale of a guy.
This guy should have just put in a guilty plea and taken
a chance on whatever sentence the judge handed out. His
idiotic story not only demonstrates he is guilty, but also
insults the intelligence of everyone in the jury, and
shows his complete lack of remorse, by saying essentially
the victim killed herself as he sat there passively enjoying
a blowjob. What kind of lawyer would allow a client to go
into court with a story that not one single person in the
entire world would believe?
I can't wait to see what kind of sentence he and his "mammoth
member" have bought themselves. Please keep us posted when the
jury comes in.
guppy
The woman he allegedly raped a week or so before the murder continued to
be cross-examined yesterday. The defense lawyer elicited the
information that she did not once say "no" to Shane Wheale. The
prosecutor asked her why that was, and she said she was so afraid of him
that she even pretended to enjoy the sex, telling him it felt good.
I think Wheale's strategy is to portray himself as so drop-dead gorgeous
and well-hung that these women raped *him* and then got upset when he
wasn't willing to commit to a LTR with them. The witness, still not
named, did go to a hospital for treatment after the rape, and police
were called, so apparently there was evidence of forcible sexual
assault. She did not have Wheale arrested, however, which (in
hindsight) might have saved Regina Carr's life--or at least postponed
Wheale's murderous attack.
Witnesses outside court told local reporters that Carr was in the bar at
a party for a friend; that the bartender, who knew her, took away her
keys ostensibly because she was too drunk to drive (her blood alcohol
level at post-mortem was .16) but actually because he saw that Wheale
had attached himself to her and was angling for a ride home--he said
that there was something "off" about Wheale. Wheale and a friend left
the bar; Carr's keys were returned to her; Wheale came back in, saying
that his friend had left him without a ride. At that point, the
bartender said, there really wasn't anything he could do to protect her
from Wheale.
Martha
Women often seem to have the wrong idea about mens' intentions causing
them to act inappropriately which can launch a cascade of distressing
events.
There is a woman who lives in my apartment complex who glares at me
whenever she sees me in the parking lot. The glare suggests this to
me: "I know what you're up to. You're some kind of criminal and I'm
not going to let you out of my sight." She's been doing this ever
since I walked to my car (at a fast pace since I was in a hurry) which
was parked two spaces over from hers. I never got closer than thirty
feet from her, it was in broad daylight and on a busy street but this
did not deter her from just standing there, single-mindedly staring at
me until I had gotten into my car and driven out of sight. I was
minding my own business but it became apparent every time I looked her
way that she was completely consumed with [totally misguided] fear and
loathing of me and for absolutely no reason. I am a middle-aged
conservative-looking man and she is old enough to be my mother.
Now I'll tell you how *I* feel. I'd like to slit her throat! Her
behavior is completely out-of-line. Her stares are very threatening
and disturbing to me. And the suggestion that these stares make is
absolutely abhorrent and absurd. (And we've never said a word to one
another.) I am gentle and very hard to anger, but that stare says
volumes and it's all lies. And they are lies about me and my
character, about which she knows nothing!
Getting back to Shane Wheale. Extremely attractive men (or women) can
wield tremendous power. I used to know a guy who was so good-looking
that when we walked down the street together, women (and men) would
stop in their tracks, and with their jaws slack just stare at him. He
never flinched or looked back at them but for sure he knew what was
happening. Having learned the effect his looks had on most women, and
with the help of more-than-a-little alcohol, I can imagine how the
lack of an assertive "no" by the witness could have been taken for a
"yes". There was no "no", and there was no "logical" reason for a
"no" either, since he's God's gift and all that (and logic is an
important component in most men's thinking patterns, much more so than
with women it seems). I've seen pictures of him on TV, both moving
and still, and he is easily attractive enough, as my friend was, to
stop traffic.
This leads me to believe that the most likely scenario went something
like this. They left together and during or after performing oral sex
on him she, being drunk and, most likely, insensitive to a man's
ego/sensitivity, may have done or said something insensitive. He,
being drunk and unaccustomed to rejection in almost any form, became
highly agitated and insulted. She, being insensitive and drunk, kept
it up. He, being unaccustomed to rejection and drunk, became violent.
If something like this did happen then they are both guilty of
crossing the line.
DB
DB wrote:
> This leads me to believe that the most likely scenario went something
> like this. They left together and during or after performing oral sex
> on him she, being drunk and, most likely, insensitive to a man's
> ego/sensitivity, may have done or said something insensitive. He,
> being drunk and unaccustomed to rejection in almost any form, became
> highly agitated and insulted. She, being insensitive and drunk, kept
> it up. He, being unaccustomed to rejection and drunk, became violent.
>
> If something like this did happen then they are both guilty of
> crossing the line.
Wouldn't you say Mr. Wheale went over the line just a
tad more than, say, the woman he killed?
guppy
I'm glad somebody else is interested in this guy. I've been away for a
few days and haven't been posting daily updates, so I'll try to
summarize:
After the woman who said Wheale had raped her some months before the
Carr murder finished testifying, the medical examiner testified that
there was no way the injuries Carr received could have come about the
way Wheale said they did. Then Wheale's girlfriend (and mother of his
child--she was pregnant at the time of the murder) testified, under
immunity. She said that Wheale came home early in the morning of the
day the body was found, and his clothes were bloody. He was crying (she
says he cries a lot: Wow. A really, really handsome man with a really,
really big dick, who is not afraid to let his feminine side out--what a
catch!!!1!) and told her to pack up the bloody clothes while he cleaned
up. They took the clothes to a dumpster, where they were later
recovered by police. She said that Wheale told her he was getting a
blow job and the woman choked to death. He said he was sure she was
dead. The girlfriend told him they should call an ambulance, but he
told her that it was no use--he had tried to resuscitate her already.
The girlfriend said she was very upset because Wheale had been carousing
with another woman while she was at home, all pregnant and everything,
but she helped him conceal evidence of his alleged crime. Wheale cried
in court during this testimony.
I watched part of "Corrinna, Corrinna" last night, with Ray Liotta, and
I have to say that Wheale does look almost exactly like the actor.
Wheale's mother's only comment the other day outside the courtroom was
that just because her son had the looks that other men wanted didn't
make him a murderer. The consideration of this man's physical beauty is
absolutely fascinating to me.
Wheale testified on his own behalf, repeating his story about the
enormous member's being responsible for the strangulation, the
gearshift's causing the rectal and vaginal cuts, the banging of the
victim's head against the steering wheel's causing the "beating" about
the head, and a new one--the bruises on her body were from his efforts
to perform CPR.
Martha
>guppy99 wrote:
*snip*
>
>I'm glad somebody else is interested in this guy. I've been away for a
>few days and haven't been posting daily updates, so I'll try to
>summarize:
>
>After the woman who said Wheale had raped her some months before the
>Carr murder finished testifying, the medical examiner testified that
>there was no way the injuries Carr received could have come about the
>way Wheale said they did. Then Wheale's girlfriend (and mother of his
>child--she was pregnant at the time of the murder) testified, under
>immunity. She said that Wheale came home early in the morning of the
>day the body was found, and his clothes were bloody. He was crying (she
>says he cries a lot: Wow. A really, really handsome man with a really,
>really big dick, who is not afraid to let his feminine side out--what a
>catch!!!1!)
Or what a waste of a piece of good meat!!
>and told her to pack up the bloody clothes while he cleaned
>up. They took the clothes to a dumpster, where they were later
>recovered by police. She said that Wheale told her he was getting a
>blow job and the woman choked to death. He said he was sure she was
>dead. The girlfriend told him they should call an ambulance, but he
>told her that it was no use--he had tried to resuscitate her already.
>The girlfriend said she was very upset because Wheale had been carousing
>with another woman while she was at home, all pregnant and everything,
>but she helped him conceal evidence of his alleged crime. Wheale cried
>in court during this testimony.
>
>I watched part of "Corrinna, Corrinna" last night, with Ray Liotta, and
>I have to say that Wheale does look almost exactly like the actor.
>Wheale's mother's only comment the other day outside the courtroom was
>that just because her son had the looks that other men wanted didn't
>make him a murderer. The consideration of this man's physical beauty is
>absolutely fascinating to me.
>
>Wheale testified on his own behalf, repeating his story about the
>enormous member's being responsible for the strangulation, the
>gearshift's causing the rectal and vaginal cuts, the banging of the
>victim's head against the steering wheel's causing the "beating" about
>the head, and a new one--the bruises on her body were from his efforts
>to perform CPR.
>
>Martha
Man, this guy sounds truely scary. You ever notice that most of the
hot men are either gay or murderers? Damn!
Penny
Martha wrote:
<snip>
> Wow. A really, really handsome man with a really,
> really big dick, who is not afraid to let his feminine side out--what a
> catch!!!1!)
LOL! <gasp>
>
> Wheale testified on his own behalf, repeating his story about the
> enormous member's being responsible for the strangulation, the
> gearshift's causing the rectal and vaginal cuts, the banging of the
> victim's head against the steering wheel's causing the "beating" about
> the head, and a new one--the bruises on her body were from his efforts
> to perform CPR.
Hmmm. I thought the "Big Dick" defense was only supposed to
be used if you were anticipating a hung jury.
guppy
Arf arf <Popeye laugh>
There were a couple of factual errors in my previous post which I'd like
to fix now. The woman who testified about her rape (Wheale is on trial
for rape of one woman and rape and murder of another) was raped only
days before the Carr murder.
Shane Wheale cried and moaned a lot during this trial, and most of his
testimony was punctuated with "I don't understand why you don't believe
me!"
I think, personally, that the prosecutors may have gone too far in
charging him with first-degree murder, though. I believe there really
was no intent to kill this woman, that her death was accidental
(although I don't believe that she choked on his big dick, either, until
I see pictures). The thing is, the law may provide for unpremeditated
homicide's being equivalent to first-degree murder if the death occurs
during commission of a felony, such as rape, and the injuries to Carr's
body certainly seem to me to be consistent with rape, especially the
cuts in her vagina and rectum.
The jury has been deliberating today (Sunday) after deliberating all day
on Saturday. They have asked to see the photos of Carr's injuries as
well as those of the other woman's injuries. What they don't know is
that 12 other women came forward after Wheale's arrest to accuse him of
beating and/or raping them.
Martha
Martha wrote:
> > Wheale testified on his own behalf, repeating his story about the
> > enormous member's being responsible for the strangulation, the
> > gearshift's causing the rectal and vaginal cuts, the banging of the
> > victim's head against the steering wheel's causing the "beating" about
> > the head, and a new one--the bruises on her body were from his efforts
> > to perform CPR.
>
> Hmmm. I thought the "Big Dick" defense was only supposed to
> be used if you were anticipating a hung jury.
>
> guppy
Yuck, yuck. I didn't think you were like that, guppy. (-:
Babyface