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Chocolic

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Nov 4, 2001, 11:28:18 PM11/4/01
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He killed his family because of his pride, ~not~ because of religious
beliefs. Whew, I'm relieved.

Chocolic <Wonder if O.J. will do a book to set his record straight>

The Associated Press
11/4/01 3:43 PM


TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- John List, who killed his wife, mother and three
children in 1971, wants to set the record straight.

The Westfield murderer is writing a book about the case, said Austin
Goodrich, an old friend of List's who is helping him write the book.

"He just decided to tell his story truly and end future speculation by the
media," Goodrich told the Asbury Park Press of Neptune for Sunday's
editions.

The book seeks to correct what List contends are errors contained in other
books about his life and the crime, Goodrich said.

Tentatively titled "Murder Revisited, The Life and Crimes of John List," by
John List with Austin Goodrich, the book reveals that List blames the deaths
on his own pride, which is why he never got help for his family's dire
financial problems.

List had lost his job and was facing foreclosure on his Hillside Avenue
mansion.

He told Goodrich that other books overplayed his religiousness as a factor
in the killings.

"His financial and professional situation were hopeless. He couldn't remedy
this by going on welfare or by seeking a job flipping burgers," Goodrich
said.

On Nov. 9, 1971, he shot his bedridden wife, Helen, 46; daughter Patricia,
16; sons John, 15, and Frederick, 13; and mother, Alma, 84.

Goodrich also said the book reveals that List feels regret and remorse for
the crimes -- something that other books and the judge who sentenced him
dispute.

List eluded authorities for 18 years, living in Colorado and Virginia under
the name Robert Clark. He was married in 1985 to Delores Miller, who didn't
discover his true identity until 1989, when FBI agents came to their
Richmond, Va., home and arrested him.

Prison officials in May 2001 diagnosed List as suffering from Post Traumatic
Stress Syndrome because of combat he saw during World War II. Goodrich, who
served with List in the army, believes that the disorder is partly to blame
for the murders.

Kris Baker

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Nov 4, 2001, 11:32:01 PM11/4/01
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Chocolic wrote in message ...

>He killed his family because of his pride, ~not~ because
>of religious beliefs. Whew, I'm relieved.
>Chocolic <Wonder if O.J. will do a book to set his record straight>


It IS comforting, isn't it? Poor John.

But....

>"His financial and professional situation were hopeless. He
>couldn't remedy this by going on welfare or by seeking a
>job flipping burgers," Goodrich said.

John....you coulda filed bankruptcy. Really. I have
neighbors who do it every seven years, then go buy
new cars. They *cannot* take your residence in a
bankruptcy, nor a mode of transportation. Flip those
burgers, get Medicaid to cover your wife's problems,
put the kids to work to make their own expenses.


Kris


Patty

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Nov 4, 2001, 11:48:45 PM11/4/01
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In article <CzoF7.97982$WW.56...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Chocolic
says...

>
>He killed his family because of his pride, ~not~ because of religious
>beliefs. Whew, I'm relieved.
>
>Chocolic <Wonder if O.J. will do a book to set his record straight>
>
List must be in his 80s by now, huh? Did the wife married to him under Robert
Clark stay married to him? We had one like that here where he murdered his wife
& 2 daughters in the late 60s or early 70s when he found his teenage daughter
smoking marijuana. Buried them under the house and then moved to out of town.
The bodies weren't discovered for years, maybe 10 years, and then he wasn't
caught until sometime in the 80s. Had a new life in Colorado (they all move
there), remarried, even had a kid I think. In this case, his wife did stand by
him.

O.J. will write a book setting it straight to all the reasons why he DIDN'T but
should have murdered his wife.

Patty


Chocolic

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Nov 5, 2001, 12:21:41 AM11/5/01
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"Kris Baker" <kris....@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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But Kris, he had his "pride". Besides he thought it would be easier to just
kill them and start over (no pride in that). It actually worked for a long
time. I wonder if, when he went to bed at night, he ever thought about them
or dreamed about them or invisioned their bloody bodies laying on the floor
side-by-side. Or relived over and over and over what he did to them. His
~friend~ says he feels guilt and remorse......NOT

Chocolic


Chocolic

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Nov 5, 2001, 12:25:34 AM11/5/01
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"Patty" <eartha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I was hoping O.J.'s book would be why he did murder his wife, but wanted to
set the record straight that it was his pride that made him do it. :)

Chocolic


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