24 y.o.Mommy who strangled all 6 of her slaves to death,aged 5-11,plea bargains guilty to 2nd degree murder,gets 33-50 yr.prison sentence,in MN
Joe1orbit
Here is a nice update on one of the MOST fascinating and under-reported true
crime incidents of this year, the case of Khoua Her, a 24 year old Laotian
immigrant, living in Minnesota, who slaughtered ALL SIX of her womb excretions,
ranging in age from 5 to 11, in early September. Yup, this has to rank as one
of the TOP massacres of 1998 in the USA, and CERTAINLY NO other Mommy in 1998,
and most likely in the entire 1990's decade, in the USA, slaughtered SIX of her
own children in a SINGLE DAY rampage. Despite this impressive act, Khoua really
has received VERY little national media attention.
We learn below that our extremely homicidal and successful Mommy was in court
yesterday, and pled GUILTY to killing all 6 child-slaves. She STRANGLED them
all to death. When asked by the prosecutor to describe what she did to the
slaves on September 3rd, Mommy Khoua stated: "I strangled their necks".
However, the guilty pleas were for SECOND degree murder, not first degree. Once
again we see a Mommy being treated with leniency, offered plea bargains that NO
STRANGER who slaughtered six children that she did not know and was not the
legal owner of, could ever hope to receive. She now gets a 50 year prison
sentence, with parole eligibility in ONLY 33 years, despite having killed SIX
children! Lucky gal! And since she is only 24 years old, our mass child-slave
murderer stands a VERY good chance of regaining her freedom, if not in her
50's, then by age 74 at the LATEST. I BET she will win parole on her first try,
regaining her freedom at age 57 or so.
Mommy Khoua was quite emotional in court, crying some tears even. Her lawyer
says that she wanted to commit suicide after slaughtering all her slaves, but
failed to wrap an extension cord tightly enough around her own neck.
We also learn exactly how our Murderous Mommy carried out the 6 killings. On
September 3rd, a pleasant day weatherwise, all 6 slaves were outside the house,
playing. One by one, Mommy Khoua called them inside by NAME, strangled each one
to death. She killed them in BIRTH ORDER, killing the oldest first, then
working her way down by chronological age. Even the oldest, at age 11, either
could not or more likely CHOSE not to try and fight back or run away, because
all the slaves were TAUGHT by their society to OBEY without QUESTION the
demands, requests, and advances of their Sacred Mommy.
When asked specifically why she chose to kill the six, Mommy Khoua provides
us with a BEAUTIFULLY illustative answer, demonstrating her embrace of societal
teaching. She says: "I wanted to commit suicide. I murdered the children
because I was worried about what would happen to my children after I died. If I
died, then nobody would love my children." There ya go folks, a piece of
PERFECT LOGIC. Perfectly mirroring the INSANE societal teachings and decrees
that this 24 year old Mommy had imposed upon her by BOTH Laotian and ameriKKKan
society, throughout her life.
This 24 year old gal has been subjected to systematic and ongoing child
abuse, as have ALL serial and mass murderers. She was in fact forced to begin
BREEDING at age 12, when her slaveowners sold/gave her into marriage. She was
sexually abused too, of course. All 6 slaves were fathered by the same man,
that she was forced to marry at age 12. She was estranged from him as of
September. Here we have a 24 year old owner of 6 slaves. Society has told her
that she MUST KEEP her womb excretions. She is given no safe moral, legal, or
cultural way to GET RID of her so-called "parental responsibilities", short of
slaughtering the slaves. And so that is what she did.
As expected, prosectors, acting as AGENTS of society, refuse to accept the
undeniable TRUTH that this 24 year old woman is JUST as great a VICTIM as any
and all of the 6 child-slaves that she harvested, put together. Society instead
DEMONIZES her and chooses to punitively punish her, as a way of DENYING and
allowing YOU humans to deny, your own guilt and responsibility for not
providing ANY Mommy or Daddy with a societally approving method of SAFELY
getting rid of their unwanted child-slaves.
In one of the below articles, attempts are made to explain away the leniency
of this sentence, using INSANE logic such as: "She will suffer more, knowing
what she did". How INSANE! The presumption being that even when a Mommy
slaughters ALL SIX of her child-slaves, society chooses to still ASSUME that
she HAS "loving, maternal instincts", and will REGRET what she did and suffer
emotional distress over her chosen actions. How RIDICULOUS!
If you would like to view a small facial photo of our Mass Murdering Mommy,
point your web browser to:
But be advised that this web page is updated daily, and so you probably only
have 6-10 more hours to view the photo at this page, before it is taken off in
favor of the next day's top story photos.
Okay folks, no more posts from me until tomorrow morning. But do get ready,
because I expect to make quite a lot of posts both tomorrow and Thursday.
Take care, JOE
The following appears courtesy of yesterday's Associated Press news wire:
Mom Pleads Guilty to Killing Kids
By BILL WAREHAM
ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) -- A sobbing mother pleaded guilty Monday to murdering her
six children, ages 5 to 11, in what her attorney said was a fit of suicidal
distress.
``I strangled their necks,'' said Khoua Her, a Laotian-born Hmong woman who
spoke through an interpreter as Ramsey County prosecutor Chris Wilton asked her
to describe the Sept. 3 killings.
The 24-year-old pleaded guilty to second-degree murder, agreeing to a 50-year
sentence that would make her eligible for parole in a little more than 33
years. She avoided a possible first-degree murder conviction that would have
brought an automatic life sentence.
``This was her only opportunity to cut a deal where she may get out someday,''
said defense attorney Bruce Wenger. ``She's doing way, way, way too much time,
but the risks were too great should we go to a jury and lose.''
Her stared at the floor and cried through much of the hearing as the prosecutor
sought details about the deaths of her three sons and three daughters. Each of
the six times she was asked whether she intended to kill her victim, she
replied: ``Yes.''
She said the children were outside playing on the evening of the murders. She
called them in one by one and tied a piece of black cloth around their necks.
Under questioning from Wenger, Her said she was suicidal the day of the
killings and murdered the children because she was worried about what would
happen to her children after she died.
``If I died, then nobody would love my children,'' she said.
Police found Her lying semiconscious with an extension cord wrapped around her
neck.
Wenger later said Her was distraught by a lifetime of anguish, which included
time in refugee camps, a forced marriage at age 12, sexual abuse and financial
trouble. She was estranged from the children's father, Tou Hang, at the time of
the killings.
The prosecutor said no emotional problems could excuse her actions.
``It's hard for me to have compassion for someone who kills six children,''
Wilton said.
AP-NY-11-30-98
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The following three news articles all appear courtesy of the 12/1/98 online
edition of The Saint Paul Pioneer Press newspaper:
December 1, 1998
Mother gets 50 years in murder of her six children
Plea bargain will have Khoua Her, 24, serve at least 33 years in prison
By Lucy Quinlivan
Saint Paul Pioneer Press
Khoua Her, the 24-year-old St. Paul mother charged with murdering her six
children, on Monday reached a plea agreement with Ramsey County prosecutors and
will serve at least 33 years in prison.
Just 17 days earlier, Her pleaded not guilty to six counts of intentional
second-degree murder in the children's deaths at their St. Paul apartment. Her
changed her mind, pleading guilty instead to the same charges.
``I'm not sure it was a right decision,'' Her's attorney, Assistant Public
Defender Bruce Wenger, said after the hearing before Ramsey County District
Judge Charles A. Flinn.
Wenger said he had considered a defense based on mental illness.
``I felt she did not realize she was doing anything wrong. She was doing a
loving act,'' he said.
Her received two consecutive 25-year sentences -- a total of 50 years -- for
the Sept. 3 strangling of 11-year-old Koua Eai and Samson Hang, 9, the first of
the children to die. She will serve equal, concurrent terms for killing Nali,
8; Tang Lung, 7; A-ee, 6; and Tang Kee Hang, 5. Her's sentence could be reduced
by as much as one-third, to 33 years and four months, if her behavior in prison
is good.
But that might not be the end of Her's confinement. Her is not a U.S. citizen
and eventually would face deportation under existing immigration laws, said
Dean Hove, deputy district director of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization
Service in Bloomington.
``We don't have a choice -- it's mandatory,'' Hove said. ``But she does not
become our prisoner until after the state is done with her.''
After her release from prison in Minnesota, Her could be returned to Laos, sent
to another country that would accept her or remain in INS custody.
Sobs wracking her 5-foot, 110-pound frame, Her said under questioning from
Assistant Ramsey County Attorney Chris Wilton that she intended to kill each of
her children, three boys and three girls.
She killed the children in birth order, she testified, from oldest to youngest.
She strangled Koua Eai in one of the apartment's upstairs rooms with a strip of
black burlap, tied it around his neck and knotted it, as the other children
played outside.
She moved to the basement and strangled Samson in the same way, then killed
Nali, her oldest daughter, in another upstairs room. Fourth to die was Tang
Lung, in the furnace room of the basement. The last two, A-ee and Tang Kee,
were killed on the townhouse-style apartment's main floor.
Her had decided to kill herself, she said in answer to Wenger's questions.
``If I died, then nobody would love my children,'' Her said through a court
interpreter.
St. Paul police and paramedics found the dead children and Her, with a brown
extension cord around her neck, when they responded to an emergency call on a
suicide in progress at 1541-G Timberlake Road, in St. Paul's McDonough Homes
public housing complex. According to a police transcript, the caller, believed
to be Her, said to the dispatcher, ``I don't know why I killed my kids.''
Wilton said the county attorney's office was satisfied that Her's sentence was
fair.
``We looked at a lot of different options,'' he said. ``Fifty years is a long
time. We could have won this trial and gotten less time than we got in this
plea bargain.''
Wilton said the county attorney's office was scheduled to bring Her's case to a
grand jury on Wednesday for possible first-degree murder charges.
In a first-degree, premeditated murder case, the prosecution would have had to
prove Her planned the murders. A conviction carried the threat of a longer
sentence -- life in prison -- and Her would have been eligible for release
after 30 years only if the state parole board approved.
``I think that was one of the things that pushed her to take the deal -- the
threat of having six first-degree murder counts against her,'' Wilton said.
Wenger, who described Her as a fragile person, agreed that Her had to choose
between a finite time in prison or the risk of a sentence of six consecutive
life terms.
``Ultimately, it was her decision,'' he said after the morning hearing. ``Two
hours ago, she decided to change her plea.''
As for the prosecutor's motive for accepting Her's guilty plea, Wilton said he
would have been proceeding with only circumstantial evidence.
``Nobody saw her do it. We have her in the house with six dead kids, and a 911
tape. That's all we have,'' Wilton said. ``You just never know. You can have
all the evidence in the world -- and here I didn't have all the evidence in the
world -- and still lose a case.''
Flinn ordered a pre-sentence investigation and set Her's sentencing for Jan. 8.
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Published: Tuesday, December 1, 1998
Grisly details surface on how killings done
• Kids singled out, slain in birth order
ROBERT F. MOORE STAFF WRITER
The killing spree began as Khoua Her's six children played outside together for
the last time.
Koua Eai Hang, 11, was the first to die, beckoned inside the family's St. Paul
apartment by his mother on the afternoon of Sept. 3.
Minutes later, he lay near death at the top of the landing on the second floor.
The other children would be dead by 7:17 p.m, when police arrived to find them
strangled, black cloths still tied around their necks.
While pleading guilty Monday to six counts of second-degree murder, Her, 24,
and attorneys handling the case supplied chilling details about how she
committed one of the worst crimes in St. Paul history.
She said she killed her six children, ages 5 to 11, one by one -- in descending
order, from oldest to youngest.
Then she tried to kill herself.
``I loved my children the most,'' she said through an interpreter in court.
``If I died, then nobody would love my children.''
Police found the children's bodies, still warm, in separate rooms of the
split-level apartment at 1541 Timberlake Road, about two miles north of
downtown. Her was found lying just inside the screen door of the three-bedroom
apartment at the McDonough Homes public housing complex with an extension cord
around her neck, wearing a red satin ceremonial dress and holding a cordless
telephone in her hand.
According to court records, she was still on the phone with a 911 dispatcher,
just after 7 p.m., saying she tried to hang herself about an hour before.
The killing spree apparently was no spur-of-the-moment decision. The night
before the slayings, Her told a baby sitter that she would no longer need her
services, Assistant Ramsey County Attorney Chris Wilton said.
``She had her mind made up,'' he said.
About 11 a.m. the next day, Chee Yang, also a McDonough Homes resident, told
police he saw four of the children inside the apartment. They were looking out
the window, he told police.
Her went to a downtown St. Paul social services office between 3 and 3:30 p.m.,
Wilton said. An employee, possibly a caseworker, shook her hand before she
left. Wilton said Her probably took the bus.
Her was again seen about 5 p.m. by two other neighbors, Der Her and Fue Thao,
according to police records obtained by the Pioneer Press on Monday. Both said
Khoua Her came outside and got the two youngest children, 6-year-old daughter
A-ee and 5-year-old daughter Tang Kee Hang, who still were outside playing.
Four of her children were already inside the apartment, possibly already dead.
By then, Her had donned an elaborate red satin beaded dress, which Wilton said
she had worn twice before -- but only during Hmong celebrations.
Tang Kee was found face-down in the southwest corner of the living room between
two couches. A-ee was found dead in a bathroom on the main floor. Samson, 9,
and Tang Lung Hang, 7, both boys, were found in the basement. And Nali Hang, 8,
a girl, was found near a closet in an upstairs bedroom. All had been strangled.
Wilton also said there were no signs of struggle, judging by the bodies of the
children, indicating they were strangled by someone they trusted, rather than
by a stranger, and died quickly.
At first, police speculated that Her may have used poison in the crimes. Police
collected several items in the apartment for analysis, including bowls,
drinking glasses, a juice container and assorted food. But the tests were not
complete Monday, leaving uncertain whether poison was used.
``Obviously with this case being done, we probably will never know if poison
was used or not,'' Wilton said.
Meanwhile, Lt. John Vomastek, head of the St. Paul Police Department's homicide
unit, said the case was an emotional one for hardened cops, who are trained to
deal with death.
``I think for all of us, we're just happy that we can put this behind us,''
Vomastek said. ``There was a general sense of tragedy for all of us in the
unit. In the homicide unit, you see a lot of nasty things, but we were all
affected by this.''
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Published: Tuesday, December 1, 1998
Plea allows county to avoid risky trial
• But deal draws fire as too lenient
LUCY QUINLIVAN and BEN CHANCO STAFF WRITERS
The decision to offer Khoua Her a guarantee of no more than 50 years in prison
for St. Paul's worst mass murder came down to tactics, the prosecutor says.
``Any time you open yourself up to a trial, you have 12 jurors sitting
determining a case, you never know what's going to happen,'' said Assistant
Ramsey County Attorney Chris Wilton. ``Even the case that you think is the best
case can be lost. I think that's always in the back of your head.''
Wilton's boss, Ramsey County Attorney Susan Gaertner, looked at the sentence in
terms of her responsibility to the public.
``There's almost no way to make a decision that accounts for the loss of six
young human lives,'' Gaertner said. ``All we can do is preserve the public
safety, and this sentence does that.
``It's a very substantial sentence -- it is actually more than a life sentence
in Minnesota,'' Gaertner said. ``She will be, at a minimum, in her late 50s
when she leaves prison.''
Gaertner said she didn't believe Her, now 24, would be a threat to the public
then.
But the plea bargain immediately drew criticism as being too lenient.
State Rep. Rich Stanek, R-Maple Grove, chairman of the Minnesota House Crime
Prevention Committee, said Her's negotiated sentence, which might mean she will
spend 33 years and four months in prison (with time off for good behavior), is
not sufficient punishment for taking six lives.
``I'm sure there is sympathy because she's a mom, and my critics might say I'm
being too hard on her, but she killed her own flesh and blood,'' said Stanek, a
captain with Minneapolis Police Department who is commander of the criminal
investigation division.
``She didn't set the house on fire or kill them with gas. This was premeditated
murder,'' Stanek added. ``She took each one of her children and strangled them.
Where's the compassion? She should have gotten life (without parole).''
Stanek said Her's actions affected the whole community. He added that this kind
of plea bargaining undermines the principle of comparable sentences for
comparable crimes.
``I'm not the prosecutor in this case, but if this is the best he could get --
33 years for six murders -- I'd ask the question, `What went into your
decision-making process?' '' Stanek said.
Richard Frase, a University of Minnesota law professor whose specialty includes
sentencing guidelines, said the plea bargain in Her's case doesn't seem to
undermine the principle of comparable sentence for comparable crimes.
He said the sentence under state guidelines for Her's crimes ranges from 35 to
150 years. The guidelines are designed to assure that similar crimes result in
similar punishment.
``She got more than the minimum and less than the maximum,'' Frase said.
``People rarely get the maximum.''
Frase said he would save the 150-year maximum for the worst case.
``It is not this case,'' he added. ``It would be different if she killed six
people to collect insurance. Presumably she was in a very upset, emotional
state. Any case of a parent killing a child invokes sympathy. It's not the
worse-case murder.''
Besides, Frase said, 33 years in prison is a long time.
``The whole process is punishment, and she has been suffering in court and she
will continue to suffer with the realization of what she did,'' he said. ``How
much of the power of the criminal laws do we need to exercise on her?''
Frase also said people should realize this is one of those cases where there is
no comparison.
``It's in a class by itself,'' he said.
He said the closest comparison would be parents who killed one or two of their
children and mothers who kill their newborn babies. Frase said Her probably
should get more than such offenders, and his guess is, she did.
``Single murders done for insurance policies and contract murders are done with
base motives, and there is no sympathy there,'' he said. ``They should get more
time in prison, and they do.''
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The following appears courtesy of the 12/1/98 online edition of The
Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper, via the Associated Press news wire:
Published Tuesday, December 1, 1998
Mother pleads guilty to killing her six children
By BILL WAREHAM / Associated Press Writer
ST. PAUL (AP) -- A shaking and sobbing St. Paul mother said she killed her six
children during a suicidal depression last September because " if I died, then
nobody would love my children."
Khoua Her, 24, pleaded guilty Monday to six counts of second-degree murder for
strangling the children, ages 5 to 11, in a crime that anguished St. Paul' s
Southeast Asian community.
" I strangled their necks, " the Laotian-born Hmong woman said through an
interpreter as Ramsey County prosecutor Chris Wilton asked Her to describe the
Sept. 3 killings.
The deaths drew hundreds of mourners to a four-day funeral service, and along
with subsequent crimes involving the Hmong community, prompted community
leaders to address issues of violence.
Her' s attorney, Bruce Wenger, said his client was a frequent victim of
violence, from sexual abuse in a Laotian refugee camp to beatings from her
estranged husband, whom she was forced to marry when she was 12.
Wenger said he was prepared to offer a mental illness defense if the case had
gone to trial.
" She believed life had dealt her a bad hand, " Wenger said. " She honestly
believes that she was doing this as a loving and kind motherly act."
If the case had gone to trial, Her could have been convicted of first-degree
murder, a charge that brings an automatic life sentence and little chance of
release on parole if given consecutive sentences. The Ramsey County attorney
had scheduled a grand jury hearing for Wednesday to consider first-degree
charges.
Instead, she agreed to a 50-year sentence that will make her eligible for
parole in a little more than 33 years.
" This was her only opportunity to cut a deal where she may get out someday, "
Wenger said. " She' s doing way, way, way too much time, but the risks were too
great should we go to a jury and lose."
Her' s troubles may not be over if she does get out of prison. Although she has
been granted permanent resident status, she is not a U.S. citizen and could be
deported upon her release.
Her stared at the floor and cried through much of the 40-minute hearing as
Wilton asked her to describe how she strangled each of her three sons and three
daughters, Koua Eai Hang, 11; Samson Hang, 9; Nali Hang, 8; Tang Long Hang, 7;
A-ee Hang, 6; and Tang Kee Hang, 5.
Mostly she offered one-word affirmative responses to the prosecutor' s
questions. Each of the six times Wilton asked whether she intended to kill her
victim, she replied: " Yes."
She said the children were outside playing on the evening of the murders. She
called them in one by one and tied a piece of black cloth around their necks.
Wilton said they probably died within 15 seconds to a minute and had no chance
to scream.
When police arrived at the apartment, they found Her lying semiconscious with
an extension cord wrapped around her neck.
Her was found competent to stand trial after a 60-day evaluation at the state
security hospital in St. Peter.
Wilton said Her' s problems had not been substantiated and would not excuse her
actions.
" It' s hard for me to have compassion for someone who kills six children, " he
said.
Wilton said the county had a good case for premeditation, a necessary element
of first-degree murder, but decided to accept Her' s plea to the lesser charge
because of concerns about whether her attorneys could sway jurors with a mental
illness defense.
" We' re satisfied justice was served in this case, " Wilton said.
Ramsey County District Judge Charles Flinn scheduled sentencing for Jan. 8,
following a pre-sentence investigation.
Formica63
>September 3rd, a pleasant day weatherwise, all 6 slaves were outside the
>house,
>playing. One by one, Mommy Khoua called them inside by NAME, strangled each
>one
>to death. She killed them in BIRTH ORDER, killing the oldest first, then
>working her way down by chronological age. Even the oldest, at age 11, either
>could not or more likely CHOSE not to try and fight back or run away, because
>all the slaves were TAUGHT by their society to OBEY without QUESTION the
>demands, requests, and advances of their Sacred Mommy.
>
Perhaps the story didn't make that clear. And the birth order thing is
interesting, isn't it, like she was winding the clock backwards in a way.
It's curious that she despatched the children with such efficacy and yet
bungled her own suicide. And it is particularly interesting that she was
given such a relatively lenient sentence: compare, for example, the brouhaha
over Susan Smith. Why do you think that is? Was it because the Susan Smith
case involved such a lot of media attention prior to her arrest, do you think?
There's been no reporting of this story in Australia, as far as I am aware,
which surprises me given the sensational nature of the incident.
Formica.
Joe1orbit
>>We also learn exactly how our Murderous Mommy carried out the 6 killings. On
>>September 3rd, a pleasant day weatherwise, all 6 slaves were outside the
>>house,
>>playing. One by one, Mommy Khoua called them inside by NAME, strangled each
>>one
>>to death. She killed them in BIRTH ORDER, killing the oldest first, then
>>working her way down by chronological age. Even the oldest, at age 11,
>either
>>could not or more likely CHOSE not to try and fight back or run away,
>because
>>all the slaves were TAUGHT by their society to OBEY without QUESTION the
>>demands, requests, and advances of their Sacred >>Mommy.
form...@aol.com (Formica63) Wrote:
>What a terrible story, Joe.
> I'm presuming she was married at 12 in Laos?
>Perhaps the story didn't make that clear.
Hello Formica,
The news items I read & posted yesterday did not make this detail clear, but
I recall from reading previous news items on this case that she was indeed
married in Laos at age 12 or 13. She and her husband emigrated together to the
USA when she was 18 or so, I believe. Soon after, their marriage started
falling apart and they became estranged, leaving her all alone, with no family
or close friends in the USA, to care for all 6 slaves.
> And the birth order thing is
>interesting, isn't it, like she was winding the clock >backwards in a way.
Yes, that is an interesting NEW detail that was not publically revealed until
yesterday.
> It's curious that she despatched the children with such efficacy and yet
>bungled her own suicide.
Well, it's a lot easier to strangle other humans to death, as opposed to
strangling yourself to death. She certainly did a good job on all 6 slaves,
that's for sure.
> And it is particularly interesting that she was
>given such a relatively lenient sentence: compare, for example, the brouhaha
>over Susan Smith. Why do you think that is?
I think the fact that Khoua was an immigrant to the USA, the fact that she
did not actively lie to and try to mislead her society after committing the
killings by claiming someone else did it, the fact that she was not
romantically involved with a man who was not her husband and used this as a
stated rationale for her child-slave slaughter, all served as beneficial points
in her favor, as judged by the perversely hypocritical society of the USA, that
Susan Smith did not enjoy.
> Was it because the Susan Smith
>case involved such a lot of media attention prior to her arrest, do you
>think?
I think that played some role, but LESS of a role than the three other
reasons I mentioned above. One of the most PERVERSELY hypocritical aspects of
humanity is how they become ENRAGED when a FELLOW HUMAN, a PEER, in their eyes,
tries to LIE to them, as Susan did, while at the same time, humans live their
entire lives embracing insane and malevolent lies and myths that their societal
leaders brainwash and coerce them into accepting. IMO, the single BIGGEST
reason why Susan was treated harshly by the judicial system is because she
tried to LIE to her societal peers, with regard to her guilt.
>There's been no reporting of this story in Australia, as far as I am aware,
>which surprises me given the sensational nature of the >incident.
Like I said, this incredibly impressive child murder has received VERY little
national media coverage in the USA as well. The media can be very fickle. No
telling where they will choose to focus their attention. But there is NO doubt
in my mind that if Khoua had been born and raised in the USA, the media
coverage would be GREATER. The fact that she is an immigrant does play a
significant role in the media deciding that the story just wouldn't appeal or
interest too many USA citizens, due to the lack of "identification" that the
readers or viewers would have towards a Laotian immigrant female, in the
estimation of news producers and directors.
Take care, JOE
>Formica.
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EGlas35107
>because I expect to make quite a lot of posts both tomorrow and Thursday.
>
> Take care, JOE
>
I've been MIA from this NG for a couple of days, so I just read this tonight.
Don't you just love that she was so able to strangle the "womb excretions" (I
really LOL over that one, you do have a way with words:-), but just couldn't
quite get the strangulation thing to work on herself. And, how considerate of
her to murder the kids! After all, would they want to live if the mare that
bred them was dead?
Who knows, if she's lucky maybe she'll have sex with a prison guard and get
pregnant again!
Your humble admirer,
Aviva
Joe1orbit
>> Okay folks, no more posts from me until tomorrow morning. But do get ready,
>>because I expect to make quite a lot of posts both tomorrow and Thursday.
>>
>> Take care, JOE
eglas...@aol.com (EGlas35107) Wrote:
>Hi Joe,
>
>I've been MIA from this NG for a couple of days, so I just read this tonight.
Hello Aviva,
Welcome back. :)
>Don't you just love that she was so able to strangle the "womb excretions" (I
>really LOL over that one, you do have a way with words:-), but just couldn't
>quite get the strangulation thing to work on herself.
Yes, that is interesting. But the fact is, it IS a lot easier to strangle
other living things to death, than it is to strangle yourself to death,
especially in a "manual" manner. If Mommy Khoua was truly serious about killing
herself, she should have employed a DIFFERENT method, because manual
strangulation on oneself is very difficult to carry out in a fatal fashion.
Glad you enjoy my "womb excretion" phrase. It IS indeed a Joe1orbit original,
and I am proud of myself for having thought it up.
And, how considerate
>of
>her to murder the kids! After all, would they want to live if the mare that
>bred them was dead?
Society TEACHES all humans that the lives of children, in and of themselves,
are TOTALLY worthless. Their lives only have value in terms of what they can
PROVIDE for their creators.
>Who knows, if she's lucky maybe she'll have sex with a prison guard and get
>pregnant again!
Maybe. She is a young gal of only 24. Got plenty of fertile years left.
>Your humble admirer,
>
>Aviva
Thank you! I deserve to be admired, and I appreciate your being superior and
courageous enough to admit in public that you do admire me. No need to be
humble, though. Try to develop a bit of arrogance, egotistism, and a sense of
superiority within yourself. All three of these character traits are POSITIVE
ones, despite society teaching and telling you otherwise.
Take care, JOE
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