Clara Harris gets joint custody of twins
Bo Raxo
This is so disgusting, I can't believe a court could be this stupid. I can't
decide which is worse: giving shared custody to the murderer of the boys'
father, or giving joint custody to someone serving a lengthy prison term.
Well, I don't have to choose since this court has managed to do both in on
efell swoop.
Gee, the court is supposed to choose the person who can make the best
decisions for the children's interests. You think deciding to murder their
father is an example of that? Everybody say it with me now: sheesh!
And to save Snyder the keystrokes, it's pretty obvious that a man who killed
his wife/their mother....well, you know the rest.
Bo Raxo
http://www.news24houston.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=14904
Clara Harris to share in twin sons' custody
9/16/2003 12:29 PM
By: Kristan Thorne
For the last eight months, Clara Harris, her friends and her in-laws, Gerald
and Mildred Harris, have been battling for custody of Clara and David
Harris' 5-year-old twin boys, Brian and Bradley.
While in prison, Clara Harris has seen her boys as often as possible --
almost every week.
And just yesterday, her wish came true. Brian and Bradley will stay with her
friends and Friendswood neighbors, Pat and Ana Jones. The Jones' have two
boys of their own, both age 4.
David Harris' parents, Clara's in-laws, will visit Brian and Bradley every
other weekend, and have extended visitation during holidays and the summer
months.
Meanwhile, Clara Harris is on her way back to prison. She's been in jail
while the custody trial has been going on.
Harris is serving a 20-year sentence, but she could potentially get out in
10 years on parole.
Robert Lee
Raxo" <cheneys...@nospam.deathsdoor.com> wrote:
>
> This is so disgusting, I can't believe a court could be this stupid. I
> can't
> decide which is worse: giving shared custody to the murderer of the boys'
> father, or giving joint custody to someone serving a lengthy prison term.
Jesus Christ.
I really don't know what else to say.
--Robert
--
Do not sit next to Dennis
Mametsuki
Mametsuki
Bo Raxo
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> pretty nuts.....
> Mametsuki
Why, thank you! [blushing]
Cricket
"Bo Raxo" <cheneys...@nospam.deathsdoor.com> wrote in message
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I snarled "What a dick!" at a stud colt a while back - his owner said "Hush!
He'll take it as a complement!" (He was a Percheron and I was down under
him, and...well, you get the not so pretty picture.)
But no connection...;>)
Anne Warfield
<cheneys...@nospam.deathsdoor.com> wrote:
>
>This is so disgusting, I can't believe a court could be this stupid. I can't
>decide which is worse: giving shared custody to the murderer of the boys'
>father, or giving joint custody to someone serving a lengthy prison term.
>Well, I don't have to choose since this court has managed to do both in on
>efell swoop.
>
>Gee, the court is supposed to choose the person who can make the best
>decisions for the children's interests. You think deciding to murder their
>father is an example of that? Everybody say it with me now: sheesh!
Sheesh. But considering who the other contenders were--David Harris's
parents, who initially supported Clara Harris (I believe their
arguments boiled down to, he was a sinner and had it coming)--the
judge may not have had anyone outstanding to choose from.
--
Anne Warfield
indigoace at goodsol period com
http://www.goodsol.com/cats/
Michael Snyder
Bo Raxo wrote in message ...
>
>This is so disgusting, I can't believe a court could be this stupid. I can't
>decide which is worse: giving shared custody to the murderer of the boys'
>father, or giving joint custody to someone serving a lengthy prison term.
>Well, I don't have to choose since this court has managed to do both in on
>efell swoop.
>
>Gee, the court is supposed to choose the person who can make the best
>decisions for the children's interests. You think deciding to murder their
>father is an example of that? Everybody say it with me now: sheesh!
>
>And to save Snyder the keystrokes, it's pretty obvious that a man who killed
>his wife/their mother....well, you know the rest.
I feel like Yoda must have felt when Luke levitated the shuttle...
stargazer
>
> This is so disgusting, I can't believe a court could be this stupid. I
can't
> decide which is worse: giving shared custody to the murderer of the boys'
> father, or giving joint custody to someone serving a lengthy prison term.
> Well, I don't have to choose since this court has managed to do both in on
> efell swoop.
>
> Gee, the court is supposed to choose the person who can make the best
> decisions for the children's interests. You think deciding to murder their
> father is an example of that? Everybody say it with me now: sheesh!
>
> And to save Snyder the keystrokes, it's pretty obvious that a man who
killed
> his wife/their mother....well, you know the rest.
>
> Bo Raxo
O.J.
sg
Bo Raxo
"Michael Snyder" <msn...@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> Bo Raxo wrote in message ...
> >
> >And to save Snyder the keystrokes, it's pretty obvious that a man who
killed
> >his wife/their mother....well, you know the rest.
>
> I feel like Yoda must have felt when Luke levitated the shuttle...
>
This is one hell of a Freudian moment, when you consider the dialogue from
that scene:
[Luke tries and fails to leviate the X-Wing from the bog]
Luke: "I can't, it's too big!"
Yoda: "Size matters not."
Which pretty much brings us back around to soc.men...
Bo Raxo
Never drag a Trekker in to a Star Wars metaphor.
Bo Raxo
"stargazer" <star...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bo Raxo" <cheneys...@nospam.deathsdoor.com> wrote in message
> news:TtO9b.5764$UN4....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > This is so disgusting, I can't believe a court could be this stupid. I
> can't
> > decide which is worse: giving shared custody to the murderer of the
boys'
> > father, or giving joint custody to someone serving a lengthy prison
term.
> > Well, I don't have to choose since this court has managed to do both in
on
> > efell swoop.
> >
> > Gee, the court is supposed to choose the person who can make the best
> > decisions for the children's interests. You think deciding to murder
their
> > father is an example of that? Everybody say it with me now: sheesh!
> >
> > And to save Snyder the keystrokes, it's pretty obvious that a man who
> killed
> > his wife/their mother....well, you know the rest.
> >
> > Bo Raxo
>
>
> O.J.
>
> sg
>
>
OJ was convicted in criminal court like Clara Harris? He's serving a 20
year sentence like Clara Harris?
Gee, thanks, that's great news!
//sarcasm off//
formica63
OJ was found responsible for the death of the mother in another court, and
retained custody. The point, as I took it, is not that the situations are
exactly comparable, but that they are distantly comparable and the fact of
gender might not be as decisive as you suggested.
I don't understand, incidently, how someone who's locked up can have
custody. Am I being too literal?
Form.
Mhw61
>custody. Am I being too literal?
In Texas a parent can have custody of his/her children even if the children do
not live with that parent. Bascially, it means that the parent has the right
to approve any decisions that affect the child's welfare, like enrolling in
school, choosing doctors, legal and financial matters, etc.
There's another term (I believe it's "primary residence," but I'm too lazy to
dig out my papers and doublecheck) that determines where a child lives.
In my case, my ex and I both have "custody" of our children, but they live with
her (although I have pretty generous visitation). In Harris's case, there is
nothing that would prevent her from exercises her custodial rights as a parent
just because she is in prison, although obviously the children's primary
residence, if legally established, is probably someplace else.
I think the confusion arises because the definition of "custody" varies from
state to state.
Max
"I'll see you in the next life, wake me up for meals."
--Warren Zevon
formica63
Mhw61 <mh...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I don't understand, incidently, how someone who's locked up can have
> >custody. Am I being too literal?
>
> In Texas a parent can have custody of his/her children even if the
children do
> not live with that parent. Bascially, it means that the parent has the
right
> to approve any decisions that affect the child's welfare, like enrolling
in
> school, choosing doctors, legal and financial matters, etc.
>
> There's another term (I believe it's "primary residence," but I'm too lazy
to
> dig out my papers and doublecheck) that determines where a child lives.
Thanks for the info., Max.
>
> In my case, my ex and I both have "custody" of our children, but they live
with
> her (although I have pretty generous visitation). In Harris's case, there
is
> nothing that would prevent her from exercises her custodial rights as a
parent
> just because she is in prison, although obviously the children's primary
> residence, if legally established, is probably someplace else.
>
> I think the confusion arises because the definition of "custody" varies
from
> state to state.
Well, *I* think it arises because the meaning of the word custody is
basically ignored in these legal "definitions." : )
> Max
>
> "I'll see you in the next life, wake me up for meals."
> --Warren Zevon
Form.
Michael Snyder
formica63 wrote in message ...
Would OJ have retained custody (or his freedom) if he didn't have
millions of dollars to spend?
Michael Snyder
formica63 wrote in message ...
>
Would OJ have retained custody (or his freedom) if he didn't have
Michael Snyder
formica63 wrote in message ...
>
Would OJ have retained custody (or his freedom) if he didn't have
Michael Snyder
formica63 wrote in message ...
>
Would OJ have retained custody (or his freedom) if he didn't have
Michael Snyder
Argh... again, pardon the multiple posts...
Scorpi...@attnospam.net
I'm afraid. For both of you.
--
Like a game of pick up stick played by fucking lunatics
Mhw61
>>Never drag a Trekker in to a Star Wars metaphor.
>>
>>
>>
>I'm afraid. For both of you.
Nah. The real sickos are into Red Dwarf.
Max
"I'll see you in the next life, wake me up for meals."
--Warren Zevon
(hoping that nobody remembers his old sig with a quote from The Cat).
Bo Raxo
Like Max said, joint custody refers to making decisions about the
children's welfare. Which, as I said, she (in my mind) showed herself
to be poorly qualified to do when she killed their father.
In some countries, people can actually take their children to live
with them in prison. Mexico does this, for example, with some maximum
security prisons having sort of shanty-town versions of little condos
built in the large open exercise yards. Of course, that's if you have
the money for it. Some children have spent years growing up in
Mexican prisons, which has got to be a weird experience.
Bo Raxo
Michael Snyder
>>>Bo Raxo
>>>Never drag a Trekker in to a Star Wars metaphor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I'm afraid. For both of you.
>
>
> Nah. The real sickos are into Red Dwarf.
Hey!!! ;-)
Mhw61
>>
>>
>> Nah. The real sickos are into Red Dwarf.
>
>Hey!!! ;-)
All-time favorite dialog snip:
CAT: "Why don't we just turn on our deflector shields?
KRYTON: "A brilliant plan sir, with just two small flaws. One, we don't have
any deflector shields. And two, we don't have any deflector shields. I
realize that's the same flaw, but it's such a big one I thought it was worth
pointing out twice."
CAT: "Well, that puts a damper on an otherwise brilliant solution."
d~
>>>Bo Raxo
>>>Never drag a Trekker in to a Star Wars metaphor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I'm afraid. For both of you.
>
>Nah. The real sickos are into Red Dwarf.
>
>Max
>
HEY! (point finger emphatically)
d~ (*nothing* wrong with RD!)
d~
>All-time favorite dialog snip:
My all-time favorite involves a bit of physical setup:
(Cat is sitting on the floor next to a big pile of clothes. He takes
one item and licks it all over, sets it aside and takes another piece
and licks it all over)
"Cat! *what* are you doing?!"
"My laundry"
d~ (SNARF!!)
Michael Snyder
formica63 wrote in message ...
>
Would OJ have retained custody (or his freedom) if he didn't have
Mhw61
>one item and licks it all over, sets it aside and takes another piece
>and licks it all over)
>
>"Cat! *what* are you doing?!"
>
>"My laundry"
>
>d~ (SNARF!!)
I love Cat. There's another great episode where they're under attack by some
huge space battleship that could blow them up at any time, but is just firing
warning shots.
Cat says "They're playing the oldest game in the book: Cat and Mouse. And
don't believe those lying cartoons. The cat ALWAYS wins."
Kat-1
wrote:
>OJ was found responsible for the death of the mother in another court, and
>retained custody. The point, as I took it, is not that the situations are
>exactly comparable, but that they are distantly comparable and the fact of
>gender might not be as decisive as you suggested.
>
>I don't understand, incidently, how someone who's locked up can have
>custody. Am I being too literal?
>
>Form.
>
No doubt in my mind OJ killed Nicole and Ron, but he was only found
liable in civil court.
OTOH, it is common that the living parent still gets custody of the
offspring, even if they murdered the other parent. A lot of courts do
not take the murder into consideration, as the saying goes, it doesn't
make them a bad parent. To lose custody it must be proven they are a
danger to the children or a unfit parent, most Attorney's representing
the parent use the defense of, the children are in no danger, it was
only the spouse who caused problems. Spouse is gone, no more problems
or danger.
No one said common sense was alive and well in the JS.