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2 young female tourists are found strangled,dumped,& partially buried, in resort area of the Bahamas,likely serial killer on the loose

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Aug 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/25/98
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Hello,

Interesting news about a POSSIBLE serial killer, or at least an enraged
double murderer, over in the Bahamas. At a resort area of the Bahamas, the
bodies of TWO women have been found. Both women were murdered, and their bodies
hidden in bushes. The bodies were found only 200 yards apart. Obviously this
indicates VERY strongly that both of these gals were killed by the SAME
predator, or perhaps a gang of predators. Most likely, it was a solo killer,
acting alone, IMO.

One of the victims is a 24 year old tourist from Britain. The other victim is
believed to be Lori Fogelman, a 32 year old teacher from Virginia who was also
visiting the Bahamas as a tourist. She disappeared on July 20th, more than a
month ago.

Both bodies were not ONLY hidden in bushes, but ALSO partially buried in
shallow graves. This means that the killer took the TIME to dig graves for both
victims, before fleeing the scene. Sounds like a serial killer to me, and I
wouldn't be surprised if he has claimed other victims, in the past.

A bruise was found on the head of the British tourist, but police believe
that both gals were STRANGLED to death. Autopsy results are still not in on
Joanne Clarke, the British tourist. Lori's body is BADLY decomposed, since
she's been dead & rotting for over a month. Police might not be able to
determine an exact cause of death in her case, but it's CLEAR that both gals
were murdered, dumped at this site, and partially buried, by the SAME attacker.


As you might imagine, police are reacting to these murders with a LOT of
attention and urgency. You can BET that if two RESIDENTS of the Bahamas had
been slaughtered this way, the police would just shrug their shoulders. But
these are TOURISTS. In the eyes of the PATHETIC Bahamian society, the lives of
TOURISTS are MORE VALUABLE than the lives of natives. That is because tourists
provide more economic cash flow into this 'resort' nation, than do the actual
natives who live there. How PERVERSELY capitalistic, for a society to value the
lives of VISITORS more than the lives or RESIDENTS, due solely to economics.

Fact is, whenever you RICH ameriKKKans or British tourists go to visit a
dirt-poor, 95% Black nation like the Bahamas, you are UNIVERSALLY hated. Oh
sure, the natives will smile sweetly at you. The hotel staff, 99% Black, will
literally GROVEL at your feet, But deep down, at their core, they DESPISE you,
for coming to their nation for a week or two of frolicking, while they are
forced to live their entire lives in economic slavery, spendiong their lives
PRETENDING and ACTING like they don't resent, loathe, and despise the rich
tourists who come and go in a neverending stream.

The tourism minister of the Bahamas declares: "We are stunned and horrified
by these events. The safety of our visitors and residents alike is always of
paramount importance to us. Every resource available will be utilized to find
the person or persons responsible and bring them to justice. The Bahamas hosts
over 3.5 million visitors a year and this kind of incident does not reflect the
friendly and peace-loving people of our nation.'' Ha! Oh boy, our political
whore really knows how to lay the bulls*it on thick! He KNOWS that his job
DEPENDS upon keeping those rich american and british touristas coming to his
slum hovel of a nation. And here we have 2 female tourists, from the WEALTHY
and IMPORTANT nations of USA and Britain, slaughtered by a serial killer! Not
good news for our nervous minister of tourism.

Meanwhile, a police commissioner has the GALL to declare that he doesn't
think these two killings are the work of a serial killer. Of course not, gotta
LIE to the citizen-slaves, both domestic and foreign. Can't risk upsetting or
panicking the tourists. Who CARES about the TRUTH. All of life consists of lies
and spin. So even if a few more gals turn up dead, you will see the police and
the politician-whores continuing to DENY and downplay the possibility of a
serial killer being at work here.

I wonder if this killer is SPECIFICALLY targeting TOURISTS?? I think there is
a very good chance that he is. There is no doubt that he is taking a big RISK
in targeting tourists. He would have a much better chance of enjoying a long
and successful serial murder career, if he targeted NATIVE residents of the
Bahamas. And this is of course because police simply would NOT devote as much
manpower or attention or effort to try and capture him, if he only targeted the
natives, whose lives are considered FAR more WORTHLESS to the Bahamian societal
leaders, than are the lives of tourists.

We learn that about one year ago, another female tourist from Britain was
beaten to death in the Bahamas. NOBODY has ever been arrested or charged in
that killing. Obviously the possibility that this year old murder was the work
of this SAME killer, cannot be ruled out.

Take care, JOE

The following appears courtesy of today's Reuters news wire:

British tourist, other woman found dead in Bahamas

NASSAU, Bahamas, Aug 24 (Reuters) - The bodies of a British tourist and another
woman who may be an American teacher have been found hidden in bushes on a
Bahamian resort island, police said on Monday.

Joanne Clarke, 24, of Oxfordshire, England, disappeared on Friday while
vacationing on Paradise Island near Nassau. Her body was found by friends on
Saturday in a clump of bushes between the Paradise Island Golf Club and Cabbage
Beach, police said.

The body of a second woman was found within 200 yards (metres) of the first. It
was believed to be that of Lori Fogleman, a second-grade teacher from Richmond,
Virginia, who was last seen driving a rental car on Paradise Island on July 20,
the Nassau Tribune reported.

Clarke had been partially buried and the second body, badly decomposed, was in
a shallow grave covered with stones, police said.

Police said a bruise was found on Clarke's head but they were waiting for
autopsy results before confirming or denying published reports that the women
were strangled.

Police appealed to the public for information and set up a command post at
Paradise Island, a small island of flashy resort hotels, casinos and pristine
beaches just over a bridge from Nassau, the Bahamian capital.

The discovery of the bodies horrified residents of the Bahamas, a chain of some
700 tourist-dependent, low-lying islands stretching southeast from the Florida
coast, and raised fears a serial killer was at work.

``We are stunned and horrified by these events. The safety of our visitors and
residents alike is always of paramount importance to us,'' Bahamas Tourism
Minister C.A. Smith said Monday. ``Every resource available will be utilized to
find the person or persons responsible and bring them to justice.''

``The Bahamas hosts over 3.5 million visitors a year and this kind of incident
does not reflect the friendly and peace- loving people of our nation.''

Deputy Police Commissioner Erold Farquharson said he did not think the deaths
were the work of a serial killer but declined to speculate further.

Although police would not confirm the second corpse was that of Fogleman, her
relatives flew to the Bahamas over the weekend to help with attempts to
identify the body, the Richmond Times-Dispatch said.
19:01 08-24-98
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The following appears courtesy of today's United Press International news
wire:

Monday August 24, 1998

Bodies of two women found on island

PARADISE ISLAND, Bahamas, Aug. 24 (UPI) - Officials in the Bahamas are
performing autopsies on the bodies of two female tourists discovered on
Paradise Island by search teams over the weekend, the BBC reports.

Lorie Fogleman, a 32-year-old Virginia teacher, disappeared a month ago and
Joanne Clarke, a 24-year-old Briton, had been missing since Friday.

Clarke's body was found fully clothed Saturday in the bushes near a beach.
Searchers also discovered what seems to be Fogleman's badly decomposed body.

The report says police investigators believe Clarke, from southern England, was
strangled. She was on Paradise Island, near Nassau, for a three-week stay with
friends.

Fogleman was last seen driving a rental car in the area.

The discovery of the bodies comes almost a year to the day since another
British woman, 37-yearo-old Carole Leach, was beaten to death on Eleuthera,
another island in the Bahamas. That murder remains unsolved.
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The following two news articles both apppear courtesy of today's British
Press Association news wire:

Monday August 24, 1998

BPA

Policing Boost Amid Serial Killer Fears In Paradise

Extra police and private security guards have been drafted into a holiday
paradise amid fears that a serial killer is on the loose.

The Bahamian government has moved to reassure tourists after the bodies of two
women were found dumped near a secluded beach.

One of the victims has been identified as teacher Joanne Clarke, 24, of
Banbury, Oxfordshire. Her body was found abandoned close to a secluded beach on
Paradise Island.

The decomposing body of a second victim, thought to be 32-year-old teacher Lori
Fogleman from Virginia, US, was discovered nearby a few hours later. Ms
Fogleman was last seen on July 20.

The bodies were in bushes separating the island's golf course from a secluded
part of Cabbage Beach. The gruesome find came on the anniversary of the
discovery of another Briton, Carole Leach, who was battered to death on a
neighbouring island. Her killer has not been found.

The Foreign Office said that at the request of Miss Clarke's family, it was not
giving any information other than confirming her name and age.

"We have been notified of her death and are working with the local authorities
in respect of that," a spokesman said.

Miss Clarke's neighbour Paul Doyle said today: "She loved life completely. I am
very close to the whole family and they are shocked."

Bahamas Minister for Tourism Cornelius Smith said police were doing everything
they could to find the killer and maintain safety.

Mr Smith said the murders were "quite out of the ordinary" on the islands,
which have an extremely low crime rate and added: "I would like to say to
holidaymakers that the tragic incident which we have had is one which has
certainly left us shocked."
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Monday August 24, 1998

BPA

Stay Calm, Tourists Told After Bodies Found

The Bahamian government has moved to reassure tourists amid fears that a serial
killer was on the loose after the bodies of two women were found dumped near a
secluded beach.

Minister for Tourism Cornelius Smith said police were doing everything they
could to find the killer and maintain safety.

British graduate Joanne Clarke, 24, was found strangled near the decomposing
body of another woman on Paradise Island, near the capital Nassau.

The gruesome find came on the anniversary of the discovery of another Briton
who was battered to death on a neighbouring island. That killer has not been
found.

Mr Smith said the murders were "quite out of the ordinary" on the islands,
which have an extremely low crime rate.

"First of all I would like to say to holidaymakers that the tragic incident
which we have had is one which has certainly left us shocked," he told BBC
Radio 5 Live.

"However, there is no need for them to be alarmed or not to come to the
Bahamas. It is very peaceful and tranquil here.

"My advice is there is no need to be alarmed, but when in the Bahamas one
should take the same sort of safety precautions as anywhere else."

Mr Smith said extra police officers and private security guards had been
brought in to patrol the main tourist areas round the hotels.

"We are now waiting for the results of the autopsy so the actual cause of death
can be determined. Every single lead that we have is being pursued by police."
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The following appears courtesy of the 8/24/98 online edition of The Richmond
Times-Dispatch newspaper:

Body likely Fogleman, police say / Family arrives in Bahamas; second woman is
identified

Monday, August 24, 1998

BY CARRIE JOHNSON
Times-Dispatch Staff Writer

Bahamian police said yesterday they believe one of the two women found dead on
Paradise Island is Lori Fogleman, a 32-year-old Chesterfield County teacher who
has been missing since July 20.

Erold Farquhason, acting police commissioner, said one of the corpses is badly
decomposed but investigators think it is Fogleman. They also believe the two
deaths may be linked.

Relatives of Lori Fogleman flew to the Bahamas yesterday to try to identify the
body, which was found on Cabbage Beach, a 2-mile stretch of white sand on the
northern side of Paradise Island.

Fogleman's brother, James, and her estranged husband, A.J. Winstead, arrived on
Paradise Island yesterday afternoon. They were told they would have to wait
until 10 a.m. today to meet with police.

The bodies were found at 3 p.m. Saturday. Police identified one of the women as
24-year-old Joanne Clarke, a tourist from Oxfordshire, England.

Phil Culligan, deputy high commissioner of the British Embassy in Nassau, said
Clarke was visiting Paradise Island during a three-week vacation with friends.
She arrived on the island Aug. 12.

Clarke, a recent graduate of Lancashire University, was staying with the family
of Greg Coles, the president of a shipping company.

On Friday afternoon, Clarke went swimming at Cabbage Beach with the 10-year-old
son of an acquaintance and the boy's nanny. Clarke's companions left her alone
at the beach at 3 p.m. and made arrangements to pick her up later.

When they arrived at 5 p.m., Clarke had vanished.

Police, friends and local volunteers combed Paradise Island and the surrounding
keys for Clarke on Saturday, said David Shelby, who is with the Bahamas Air Sea
Rescue Association.

At 3 p.m. Saturday, they found Clarke lying face down in an area of bushes that
separate the island's golf course from a secluded part of Cabbage Beach. She
was dressed in a blouse and jeans, indicating she may have been leaving the
beach when she was attacked.

A second, badly decomposed body was found nearby.

After the discovery, police and U.S. Embassy officials contacted James Fogleman
and asked him to fly to the Bahamas to possibly identify the second body.

Lori Fogleman, a second-grade teacher at Woolridge Elementary School, has been
missing since July 20. Since her disappearance, several clues have been
discovered in the Cabbage Beach area:

• a sanitation worker found Fogleman's leather handbag stuffed in a garbage can
on Cabbage Beach;

• Fogleman's ripped Virginia driver's license was discovered by a 13-year-old
tourist less than a mile from where the purse was found;

• and a bartender at the Sunrise Beach Club and Villas, also on Cabbage Beach,
said she saw Fogleman drinking at the club's bar with two women about the time
she disappeared.

Fogleman traveled alone to Paradise Island on July 18 to visit a male friend
who is working construction at the new Atlantis Hotel Resort. The friend,
Phillipe DesRosiers, did not return phone calls yesterday.

The last time a family member heard from Fogleman was the morning of July 20,
when she called her mother to complain about her living conditions on the
island.

Fogleman's clothes were left in the Holiday Inn room she had shared with
DesRosiers and another construction worker. Her rental car, due back July 23,
has not been located.

Several transactions were made with Fogleman's bank card the week after she
disappeared. Her mother's credit card, which Fogleman had with her in case of
emergency, was used to make a mysterious $587 purchase.

Lee Martinez, a U.S. Embassy spokeswoman, said embassy officials will be
assisting Fogleman's family in the Bahamas. Family members, however, are not
permitted to get involved with police investigations, Martinez said.

Martinez said she didn't know if the discovery of the bodies would prompt the
embassy to issue a warning to those traveling to the Bahamas.

The Associated Press and the Broadcast Corp. of the Bahamas contributed to this
report.
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The following appears courtesy of yesterday's British Press Association news
wire:

Sunday August 23, 1998

BPA

Women Found Strangled In Bahamas

A serial killer is believed to be on the loose on a Bahamas holiday island
after the bodies of two women, one a British tourist, were found dumped in
bushes.

Joanne Clarke, 24, was found strangled on Saturday off a secluded beach on
Paradise Island, a resort near Nassau, police said. The other woman's body,
dumped close by, was badly decomposed but she was also thought to have been
strangled.

She was believed to be a 32-year-old teacher from Virginia, United States, who
went missing in July. The bodies were in bushes separating the island's golf
course from a secluded part of Cabbage Beach on the seven-mile-long holiday
island.

The British woman had been visiting Nassau on a three-week holiday and had gone
to the beach on Friday with a female friend and the 10-year-old son of another
friend.

Her friends left the beach at about 3pm and when one of them returned two hours
later, Ms Clarke had gone missing.

Police, friends, members of the Bahamas Air Sea Rescue Association and local
volunteers searched for her and found her on Saturday afternoon lying face down
among the bushes.

Ms Clarke was dressed in a blouse and jeans, indicating she may have been
leaving the beach when she was attacked, according to police superintendent
Arnold Josey.

Post-mortem examinations are due to be carried out on the two women on Monday,
police said. Officers said there was no obvious evidence of a sexual motive.

Police said they believed the other victim might be Lori Fogleman, a teacher
from Richmond, Virginia who disappeared on July 20. Her purse was found in late
July about a mile from where the bodies were discovered. She was last seen
driving a hire car on Paradise Island.

lordsir

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Dear Joe, here are a couple of other related articles from The Electronic
Telegraph :


Killer casts a shadow over paradise
By David Sapsted on Paradise Island, Bahamas

A CARIBBEAN hideaway for the rich and famous became the centre of a police
manhunt yesterday following the murder of a 24-year-old British tourist.

Police and dozens of extra security guards were rushed to hotels on Paradise
Island, just outside Nassau, as pathologists prepared for a post-mortem
examination today on Joanne Clarke, whose body was found covered with leaves in
undergrowth a few yards from the sands of Cabbage Beach.

A second body, believed to be that of Lori Fogleman, a 32-year-old American
teacher who disappeared last month, was found close by that of the schoolteacher
from Banbury. The finds came a year after another Briton, Carole Leach, was
found battered to death on a neighbouring islandand prompted fears of a serial
killer at large. The tiny island is currently undergoing a $1 billion
redevelopment by Sol Kerzner's Sun International group.

Mr Kerzner was so worried by the killings and the effect they could have on the
tourist trade that he has drafted in 50 extra security staff and has appointed a
team of private investigators to look into the murders.

The deaths have shattered the tranquillity of the island, linked by a road
bridge to New Providence. Women tourists said they were scared to venture alone
along a beach where, only two months ago, Cindy Crawford celebrated her
marriage.

Ever since Paradise Island became a favourite of William Randolph Hearst, the
American newspaper magnate, the island's beaches have become a magnet to the
rich and famous. The Shah had a home here and Michael Jackson is a frequent
visitor.

Erold Farquharson, the deputy commissioner of police, said 18 detectives were
investigating the killings from an incident room set up on the island. He said:
"It's natural for people to be worried. The police are worried, but it does not
mean people should panic. It is shocking, though, because it is so unexpected
here."

No suspects have been found but police were interviewing dozens of Mexican
labourers working on construction sites on the island as new hotels, marinas and
casinos are built.

Cornelius Smith, Minister for Tourism, issued a statement trying to limit the
damage. Murders were "quite out of the ordinary" on the islands, which had an
extremely low crime rate, he said.

"The tragic incident which we have had is one which has certainly left us
shocked," he said. "However, there is no need for holidaymakers to be alarmed or
not to come to the Bahamas. It is very peaceful and tranquil here. When in the


Bahamas one should take the same sort of safety precautions as anywhere else."

Miss Clarke, on a three-week holiday to the Bahamas, was alone in the dazzling
afternoon sun on Friday when, apparently, she was dragged away and strangled.
The post-mortem examination is expected to determine if there was any sexual
motive. When a friend, who had left Miss Clarke to take home a 10-year-old boy
she was looking after, returned to the beach, there was no sign of her. Her body
was found on Saturday and, close by, that of the woman believed to be Lori
Fogleman, from Virginia, who was last seen on July 20.

Phil Culligan, British deputy high commissioner to the Bahamas, said the
commission was reviewing its advice to tourists on how to stay safe. He said:
"The advice to travellers is to exercise the normal cautions they they would do
in any tourist resort. They should avoid dark, unlit areas and be aware that we
may be reviewing our advice."

Paradise Island is destined to become one of the biggest resort complexes in the
world, with a huge marina and a hotel where suites can cost more than £15,000 a
night.

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'How many girls must die before justice is served?'
By Sandra Laville


THE mother of a British teacher murdered in the Bahamas a year ago warned
yesterday that the killer of the two latest victims may never be brought to
justice.

Carole Leach, 37, was battered to death at the bungalow where she lived alone on
the island of Eleuthera. Her murder was a year ago to the day that police on
Paradise Island discovered the body of Joanne Clarke, a British graduate, and a
body believed to be that of Lori Fogleman, an American.

Although Mrs Leach's mother, Eve Gamson, does not believe that there is a link
with her daughter's death, her experiences with the Royal Bahamian Police have
left her with little confidence in their abilities.

Mrs Gamson, 64, a pharmacist from Coleford, near Bath, Avon, has made repeated
visits to the Bahamas in an attempt to spur on the investigation. She said: "I
wonder just how many more girls have got to die before the police get their act
together.

"It is such a tragedy that this poor girl was killed on the actual day my
daughter was killed. It has been a difficult time for me anyway and this has
brought it all flooding back. I really feel for the families of these girls.
They may never see the killer brought to justice. All I have encountered is a
wall of silence."

Mrs Leach, from Bath, arrived in the Bahamas eight years ago with her husband,
Christopher. When they divorced she remained on Eleuthera, in the village of
Rock Sound where she taught at Green Castle School. The night before her murder
she hosted a dinner party. Her body was found by a guest when he called to thank
her after she failed to answer her telephone. A post-mortem examination revealed
that she died from a single blow to the head.

Mrs Gamson, who believes that her daughter was killed for her stand against drug
abuse on the island, has made three trips there for inquests that never took
place. She is now waiting for confirmation that the inquest will be held next
month.

She said: "I think the police were incompetent. The autopsy that took place was
a shambles as even the most rudimentary things were not done. I think they see
murders as bad publicity and hope the grieving families will just give up
because of the cost of getting over there and go away. The police even tried to
get me off the island. They said it was because of fears for my safety. But I
know they were just trying to get me out of the way."

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Lord Sir

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Joe1orbit

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Hello,

Here is an update on the very interesting tourist killer who is on the loose
in the Bahamas, after having harvested two young female tourists, in serial
fashion. We really get a sense of how PROFOUNDLY PREJUDICED the Bahamian
society truly is. We see how a society can totally DEVALUE it's own
citizen-slaves, for perversely capitalistic reasons. It is simply a fact: If
this double murderer had serially killed 2 female Bahamian hotel employees or
waitresses, there would be NO media attention at all. The Bahamian government
and law enforcement leaders simply would not CARE at all, about the serial
murders of two of their own citizen-slaves.

Solely because the 2 victims are AmeriKKKan and British tourists, is the
entire country of the Bahamas literally in an UPROAR. I happen to think that in
all likelihood, this killer is a RESIDENT of the Bahamas, who has slowely built
up IMMENSE rage and hate towards the rich tourists who come to his country to
have "fun", while he and the other Bahamian residents are trapped in a cycle of
poverty, hopelessness, oppression, and DEVALUATION, imposed upon them by their
society.

We learn below that the Bahamian government has offered a $200,000 cash
reward for information leading to capture of our double murderer. Boy, there is
just NO SHAME at all among societal leaders. The government is literally
RUBBING the faces of it's citizen-slaves in the GROUND. Telling them: "You are
worthless. You are nothing. You are SERVANTS. You exist in this nation ONLY to
serve your superior visitors. They are Sacred. Their lives are worth hundreds
of thousands of dollars. Your lives are worth NOTHING." But guess what, the
citizen-slaves of the Bahamas ACCEPT this perverse judgement. They KNOW they
cannot stand up to their society. They know that they ARE slaves, and so they
cope with their horrific lot in life by drinking, taking drugs, engaging in
petty disputes with each other, and most of all, HAVING CHILDREN and using
their child-slaves as Poison Containers.

Police do confirm that they have no serious suspects at this time. If you
would like to see photos of BOTH female victims, simply point your web browser
to:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_158000/158528.stm

Both victims are quite pretty, but what struck me was that they both had
reddish hair, and somewhat pale skin. I wonder whether our aspiring or actual
serial killer specifically targeted these two gals because of their appearance?


Meanwhile, local police in the Bahamas are calling in BOTH Scotland Yard AND
the FBI, to try and help them capture the killer. Money talks, folks. This is
all about MONEY, all about keeping the tourist dollars flowing. The prime
minister of the Bahamas is himself trying to reassure those PRECIOUS tourists,
that they should keep on coming to the Bahamas. Even though another female
tourist was killed in 1997, and nobody has ever been charged with that murder,
police and political leaders CONTINUE to insist that there is "no evidence at
all to support any suggestion that this 1997 tourist murder is linked to these
2 latest harvestings.

A local USA newspaper says that police are trying to locate a man that Lori
Fogleman, the first victim, was staying with, in the Bahamas. This man is a
French-Canadian construction worker who probably lives in Canada. The Bahamian
prime minister himself, declares: "We need to talk to this man. His actions are
very suspicious.'' Bullsh*t! What we have here is the Bahamian prime minister
trying to cook up a STORY that the serial killer might be a "foreigner", and by
now out of the country, as yet another desperate ploy to try and keep those
tourists coming. Police have ALREADY questioned this man, Phillipe DesRosiers,
numerous times, and searched his room as well. He is STUPID to even allow
himself to be interrogated. He should KNOW that police, ESPECIALLY the Bahamian
police, have NO interest in truth or in his guilt or innocence. They are just
desperately trying to PIN these 2 killings on ANYONE they possibly can.

We also learn that the renowned forensic expert Cyril Wecht has been FLOWN IN
to the Bahamas to perform an autopsy and examination of Lori Fogleman.
Basically, just by reading the three below news items, if you are an INSIGHTFUL
human, you should realize how perversely prejudicial and MALEVOLENT Bahamian
society is. How it cares NOTHING about HUMAN life. How it actively DESPISES and
dehumanizes it's own citizen-slaves, as the societal leaders worship their only
REAL god, which is the almighty DOLLAR. And of course an insanely capitalistic
society like the USA is JUST as malevolent in it's treatment of the citizens
that it enslaves and brainwashes into becoming loyal and beholden devotees.

Take care, JOE

The following appears courtesy of yesterday's Reuters news wire:

Bahamas offers rewards for tourist killer

NASSAU, Bahamas, Aug 25 (Reuters) - The Bahamas offered $200,000 in rewards on
Tuesday for information leading to culprits in the slayings of two tourists
whose bodies were found last weekend on a resort island off Nassau.

The killings rocked the Bahamas, a peaceful nation of more than 700 small
islands in the Atlantic off Florida, touching off fears of a serial murderer on
the loose and concerns about the critical tourism industry.

Police identified one of the victims as Joanne Clarke, 24, of Oxfordshire,
England, who disappeared on Friday while vacationing on Paradise Island, a
small island of posh resort hotels, casinos and pristine beaches just over a


bridge from Nassau, the Bahamian capital.

The other body, badly decomposed, was believed to be that of Lori Fogleman, a
teacher from Richmond, Virginia, who was last seen on July 20.

Both bodies were found on Saturday. Clarke's body was discovered partially
buried in a clump of bushes between the Paradise Island Golf Club and Cabbage
Beach. The second corpse was found in a shallow grave covered with stones about
200 yards (metres) away.

Authorities said there were no suspects.

``I wish to advise that my government is offering a reward of $100,000 relating
to each of these crimes,'' Bahamian Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham said at a
news conference attended by Cabinet ministers and police officials.

Bahamian officials said experts from Britain's Scotland Yard and the U.S.
Federal Bureau of Investigation would help local police with the investigation.


``The government of the Bahamas regards these crimes as most heinous,''
Ingraham said.

Ingraham noted at the news conference that some British media had linked the
discovery of the bodies to the 1997 slaying of Carole Leach, a British teacher
whose body was found in Rock Sound, Eleuthera, last year.

Ingraham said there was no evidence to support any suggestion the crimes were
linked.

Bahamian officials said the islands were safe for tourists.
19:54 08-25-98
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The following appears courtesy of today's United Press International news
wire:

Wednesday August 26, 1998

Bahamas seek help in murder cases

NASSAU, The Bahamas, Aug. 26 (UPI) - The Bahamian government is awaiting help
from the FBI and Scotland Yard in solving the recent murders of two female
tourists on Paradise Island.

Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham says today he doesn't want the tranquil image of
the Bahamas to be tarnished by the killings of an American and a Briton, and
his government has posted a $100,000 reward for information leading to the
conviction of the murderer.

The body of 24-year-old Joanne Clarke of England and that of another woman were
found Saturday near a golf course on the small resort island near Nassau, the
Bahamas' capital. The second body is believed to be that of 32-year-old Lori
Fogleman of Chesterfield County.

A post mortem examination is being conducted by a leading forensic pathologist
flown in from Pennsylvania, Cyril Wecht.

Clarke vanished on Friday, while Fogleman had been missing for more than a
month. Police have confirmed that Clarke was strangled. The body believed to be
Fogleman's was severely decomposed, and an autopsy is being performed to
determine the cause of death.

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reports that police are searching for Phillipe
DesRosiers, a French-Canadian construction worker that Fogleman stayed with
during her trip in July. The newspaper reports DesRosiers, a Montreal native,
had met Fogleman at Virginia Beach, Va., earlier this summer.

At a news conference Tuesday, Ingraham said: ``We need to talk to this man. His
actions are very suspicious.''

The Times-Dispatch says DesRosiers told a reporter he last saw Fogleman on July
20 and reported her missing a few days later. Bahamian police have repeatedly
questioned DesRosiers, and his room has been searched.
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The following appears courtesy of the 8/26/98 online broadcast by the British
Broadcasting Corporation TV station:

Wednesday, August 26, 1998

Reward for information on Bahamas 'serial killer'

The Bahamas Government has promised a £60,000 ($100,000) reward for information
leading to the conviction of the murderer of a British tourist.

Joanne Clarke, 24, whose body was discovered in undergrowth by a beach on
Paradise Island, is believed to have died at the hands of serial killer.

The Bahamas' Prime Minister Hubert Ingraham said his country's police force had
invited officers from the FBI and the UK's police to help with the inquiry.

They are already being assisted by three former senior Scotland Yard detectives
who are training local police in detection techniques.

A second body found nearby - believed to be that of American tourist Lori
Fogleman, 32, who disappeared last month - led to speculation that a serial
killer is targeting tourists on the luxury island.

Mr Ingraham said: "We think the offer of £60,000 may act as an incentive to
some persons who may have been on the beach that day and may have some
information."

Miss Clarke, a teacher from Banbury in Oxon, was on a three-week holiday with
friends when she vanished on Friday.

The two murders in the Bahamas happened almost a year to the day after a
British woman, Carole Leach, 37, was battered to death on the neighbouring
island of Eleuthera. Her murder remains unsolved.

Bahamian Prime Minister: "We have no reason to presume these incidents are
other than isolated"The Bahamian prime minister sought to reassure holiday
makers his country had not become a dangerous destination.

He said: "The Bahamas remains a safe place for tourists. The number of British
tourists to the Bahamas has doubled over the last four years.

"I have been able to have a view of the British press for yesterday and I see
it had extensive coverage in Britain and so yes we are concerned and want to
show the world the Bahamas remains a very safe place.

"Serious crime in the Bahamas against tourists remains very rare indeed."

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Aug 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/27/98
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I agree with Joe (!) that the Bahamian police have been incompetent and
recalcitrant; not until they had been swarmed by international press was
outside help called in.

They made no secret that they thought Ms. Foglemans dissapearance was either
her deliberate choice (though all sign were against that) or brought about by
her own recklessness, and even after both bodies were found close together in
the same clump of bushes, were denying te obvious connection with the death
of the two women. (also the idiots thought the bodies had been washed
ashore, since their forensic skills are zip)

Not that the police don't have a point...I had the (misfortune?) to be
aquainted with Ms. Fogelman.

My sister let her a room in her home for a few months last year, until she
had to be asked to leave. My brother knows her estranged husband well, and
my 37 y/o sister thought an over-30 second grade teacher would make for a
responsible roomate.

Lori drank too much, she lived to "party"; She had poor judgement and
took incredible risks. I felt a terrible fear for my sister and resented Lor
a great deal. At the time I though I was being just plain irrational but I
told my sister within days of meeting Lori to please ask her to move out.
The weirdest thing of all (weirder than the way she made me uneasy and the
hair pop up on the back of my neck),is that I had repeated disturbing images
pop into my head whenever I got around her or her things (i.e., a pile of
second grade papers to be graded) I kept seeing her and/or my sister being
violently attacked, and the flesh melting off Lori's face. My sister would
mention Lori, I would feel danger, fear, imagine violence and see flesh
decay off a skull.


DesRosiers, the construction worker Ms Fogleman had joined for a visit in the
Bahamas, is not going to remain under suspicion for very long. He checked
through U.S. Customs at 2:OO pm, fully 1 hour before the English Victim, Ms.
Clarke, was seen alive by her friends on the beach. (This according to a U.S.
Government spokesman).

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Nah, just some local butchered ‘em.

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Some local dead beat killed ‘em. He was tossed in prison and beaten as deserved.

Greg Carr

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On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 12:51:37 AM UTC-7, jjlaw...@gmail.com wrote:
> Some local dead beat killed ‘em. He was tossed in prison and beaten as deserved.

Bahama man sentenced in death of Va. teacher

TOSHEENA ROBINSON-BLAIR, Associated Press writer
Posted Jun 22, 2002 at 12:01 AM
Updated Jan 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM

NASSAU Bahamas -- A Bahamian man was sentenced yesterday to 25 years in prison for the slaying of vacationing American schoolteacher Lori Fogleman.

Tennel McIntosh 22 who was convicted of manslaughter last week hung his head after the judge read the sentence.

His lawyer said he would appeal.

Fogleman 32 from Richmond Va. disappeared in July 1998. Her decomposed body was found on a Paradise Island beach that August. On the same day the body of a 24-year-old British tourist Joanne Clark was found on the same beach. Police said Clarke was strangled and raped.

In February 2000 a jury acquitted McIntosh in Clarke’s death despite what prosecutors said was a videotaped confession and DNA evidence showing semen on her clothes that matched McIntosh.

McIntosh’s first trial in the Fogleman killing ended in March 2001 with a hung jury. In the second trial which began April 29 prosecutors were allowed to present evidence in the Clarke case.

Prosecutors showed a videotaped interview with police in which McIntosh admitted to arguing with Fogleman after selling her a coconut. He said she drank half the milk then refused to pay for it. McIntosh in the videotape said he got angry and hit Fogleman with a rock.

The defense argued that police beat and coerced the statements from McIntosh.

This story appeared on Page A6 of The Standard-Times on June 22 2002.

https://www.southcoasttoday.com/article/20020622/NEWS/306229980
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