Pittsburgh murder/dismemberment/suicide case

[Jen1orbit]

Hello,

Sure seems like the interesting and grisly crimes are piling up fast and
furiously over the past few days. Here we have a brand new incident out of
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Seems that a woman was angry at her next door
neighbor because his house was dilapidated and some work he was having
done on his house was causing her roof to leak. Or so she claimed. I don't
see how any work he was doing on his house could cause her roof to leak.
She seems like the kind of woman who was very uppity and critical and
wanted things done just so.

Well, her name was Ann Hoover, and she chose the wrong next-door
neighbor to mess with. Cuz he somehow got her to come visit his
dilapidated next-door house, and while she was there he strangled her and
dismembered her. His name was Roy Kirk, by the way.

Note my use of the word "was", because as Roy was inside the police van,
he managed to remove his belt, loop it around the security grating, and
hang himself! Yes, he killed himself while inside the police van, during
the ride to the police station, immediately after police arrested him for
the killing & dismemberment of Ann. And he was shackled and handcuffed
when he killed himself! That's what I call a difficult feat. So now they
are both dead, and the way I read the story it's all because of this nosy
and meddling 44 year old piano teacher, Ann Hoover. People should not
bother other people. Mind your own damn business is my rule. My next door
neighbors do not know even my first name. You never speak to anybody, and
you certainly never pester your neighbor over the state of his house. If
you do, you might just get killed and dismembered.

There's the lesson for you folks. Don't bother your fellow humans. Don't
interfere in their reality. Be glad that they don't bother you. Never
initiate contact with your neighbors, the most you should ever do is nod
curtly if you see them outside their house.

Take care, JOE

Here are the details, courtesy of the Associated Press news wire:

PITTSBURGH (AP) - A woman who feuded with her next-door neighbor over his
dilapidated house was found dismembered in the home's basement Tuesday.
Her neighbor hanged himself with his belt in a police van.

Police were called to the home of Ann Hoover when she didn't show up at a
hearing for Roy Kirk, who was appealing fines for the vacant, condemned
row house he owned next to Ms. Hoover's home.

When they couldn't find her, a neighbor suggested they look in Kirk's
house. They found Kirk and put him in the van, then discovered Ms.
Hoover's dismembered body in the basement.

Ms. Hoover's limbs had been severed and wrapped, apparently for disposal,
and her torso was cut across the middle, said coroner Cyril Wecht. She
might have been strangled first with an extension cord found around her
neck, he said.

Kirk was shackled and his hands were cuffed behind his back in the van,
yet he still managed to remove his belt, loop it around the grating and
hang himself during the 12-minute ride to the police station, said Police
Cmdr. Ron Freeman. Officers were unable to revive him.

``Here was a man that was bent on taking his own life,'' Freeman said.
``Unfortunately he was able to do something that he wanted to do.''

When he was brought out of the house, Kirk was barefoot and filthy with
dirt on his face and unkempt hair, said neighbor Ruth Liptak.

``He kept screaming, `Just kill me now, just get it over with,' '' Ms.
Liptak said.

Ms. Hoover, 44, a piano teacher, and Kirk had been feuding since last
summer, said neighbor Maria Burgwin. Kirk was renovating the house and Ms.
Hoover believed the work was causing her roof to leak, Ms. Burgwin said.

A city official said Kirk had $8,000 in fines levied against him for
debris inside and outside the house and for removing the roof. The
building was condemned and the city planned to demolish it, said Dom
Cimino, chief of the city's Bureau of Building Inspection.

During a court hearing two weeks ago, Kirk had invited Ms. Hoover to come
look at the repairs. Ms. Hoover told the judge she didn't want to go into
the house alone with Kirk, said Ms. Burgwin, who accompanied Ms. Hoover to
court.

Chris Fromme, who lives on a hill behind the row houses, said Ms. Hoover
asked Thursday to take pictures from his house of Kirk working on his
roof.

``She just wanted to get him out of the neighborhood,'' Fromme said. ``She
offered to buy his house at one point, but he refused to sell.''

Kirk reportedly owned other property in the neighborhood.

``I still don't believe it. I might wake up,'' said the victim's father,
Thomas Hoover, who sobbed as he stood outside his daughter's house in an
older working-class neighborhood near the University of Pittsburgh.

``It's been one fine by the city after another until it adds up to what we
have today - two lives gone, one that was worthwhile in my mind, the other
I'm not sure.''

AP-NY-03-25-97

[cyli]

Row house would be like the more modern sounding 'townhouse.' They'd be
sharing a common wall and probably some of the roofs. So his removing
his roof could cause leaking into her house.

--
"If I die of curiousity, who will entertain you with naive questions?"

I only answer my mail on an average of once every two months. Be
patient.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli/

[Rhubarb]

In article <19970326005...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
jen1...@aol.com (Jen1orbit) wrote:

> There's the lesson for you folks. Don't bother your fellow humans. Don't
> interfere in their reality. Be glad that they don't bother you. Never
> initiate contact with your neighbors, the most you should ever do is nod
> curtly if you see them outside their house.

Interesting you should bring this up. My husband and I own a recording
studio which has many "Gangsta Rap" clients. (Hey...they pay cash!)

Anyway, this place has been a studio for 20 years and has never received a
complaint. We just got a new neighbor (a single woman in her 30s) who's
house sort of backs up to our studio's property line. Well, she decided to
start calling the cops INCESSANTLY with noise complaints. To get her to
stop, I pointed out to her who most of our clientele were, and told her if
I were she I wouldn't want to get blamed for being the cause of their not
being able to crank up the music as loud as they want, when they want.

Well...no more noise complaints!

Leah

"Help me Obiwan Kenobi. You're my only hope!"

[nataliewin...@gmail.com]

You guys (with the exception of "cyli") are all pieces of shit. Yeah, having no human contact is the worst idea ever. It causes depression & all kinds of things. If you can't get along with other people, the common denominator is YOU.

Then, the next dumbass is such a sociopath that, rather than accept responsibility for a very real problem that YOU create, you threaten to kill your neighbor with your equally moronic "gangsta" clients. That's VERY civilized & evolved of you (eye roll). You don't even know how to use the English language, so that shows how ignorant you are. Is it 'whose' or 'who's?' When do you use 'she' versus 'her?' This guy who murdered her was also a sociopath-moron who made very bad decisions & then couldn't live with them. Maybe THAT'S why you act the way you do towards him; because you're a FUCKING MORON.

ALao, here's a property lesson for you: a "row house" SHARES a common wall. If he removed his roof, it definitely leaked in her house, too. Pittsburgh, only second to SEATTLE, has the most cloudy & rainy days in the country; so yeah, that's a big fucking deal.

Shame on you for even giving your opinions when you guys clearly have no intelligent attachment to the outside world. How about instead of judging others & perpetuating ignorance (& your own plain stupidity), you try to better yourself & not threaten other people because YOU can't do the right thing.

Good luck with your karma in this asshole life you are living. Why don't you get a life being a better person instead of an idiot who posts crap in the Internet in a way that mashes you look so dumb. You are gross individuals & I hope I never meet you.

[goody2sh...@yahoo.com]

Your report on this is so un accurate. The man dug a hole under his home up through her floor not and went in her home and brought her to his house through the hole and there he killed her and chopped off her limbs and then cut her torso in half. It was a duplex, not a row house that you would typically see. The man was nuts. When they entered his home, it was full of both living and dead animals in cages. Some of the dead animals had maggots on them because they were there and dead so long. More of the story is that they, as did others, purchased homes in a run down area to fix the neighborhood up. He purchased 3 homes that he did not have the knowledge to fix up so when he attempted to work on his house, he made more mistakes than he made right. His neighbor that he killed offered to help the man and she also offered to purchase his house to fix it up. She tried several things but after a year and rodents all over their front yard and rain and mold now coming into her home, she called the city. I think anyone that is clean would want garbage and rodents free from their home. Garbage belongs in the dump. I digress. Back to the roof. When she spoke with him about the roof, they were still friends. He took the gutters off of his home. I don't know what he was thinking but perhaps he thought he would clean or replace them but it caused more rain to come into her home. Gutters help to divert rain from your home. When the towns people 100% of them, with the exception of him, were scheduled to go to court the next day, the crazy man crawled through the hole he made and that is when he killed and dismembered her. There is nothing about him or what he did that was sane. He knew it and hung himself in the police van on his way to jail, after begging them to kill him then. He had removed his belt, with his cuffs on, and put it through the cage inside the van and leaned forward causeing his death. Sooooo he was CRRRRAAAAZZZZYYYY and he was DEFINITELY DISTURBED. THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE SAYS THAT COULD MAKE HIM A HERO. He could have ended this by not purchasing the house without knowledge. He could have cleaned up the garbage inside and outside so that there were no rodents and he could have hired someone to fix the roof and then had plenty of time to do the rest. That being said, he could have watched YouTube to learn how to fix the roof ..... With today's technology, he really had no excuse other than financial but if he was broke, how and why would he purchase 3 houses. JUST SAYIN...

[laur...@gmail.com]

Racist

[brittn...@gmail.com]

I like Natalie!