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Laci: A perfect example of Cable TV crap - Catherine Crier

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Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)

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Jul 6, 2004, 7:40:49 PM7/6/04
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Wow, sure is a crazy coincidence that Crier "obtained" these documents
right in the middle of the trial, huh? She's smoking the G's choad big time.
When is the G going to be smacked around for violating the gag order?
Or Crier? (different kind of gag).

What utter and complete horseshit. Watch for the big surprise that Deanna
Renfro can't be located.

RstJ

http://courttv.com/trials/peterson/070604_crier_ctv.html
(pictures of Laci's "gold" watch, and a nice mugshot of Daughter of Donnie)


Exclusive document reveals identity of Peterson defense's 'mystery woman'
(Court TV) - What do a gold watch, a brown van and an eBay auction have in common?
According to documents obtained by Court TV's Catherine Crier, they resurrect
defense attorney Mark Geragos' theory that Satanists in a brown van were involved
in the murders of Laci Peterson and her unborn son.

Deanna Renfro pawned a gold watch like one belonging to Laci Peterson.
The host of Court TV's "Crier Live" obtained a pawn shop receipt revealing the
identity of a "mystery woman" cited by Scott Peterson's lawyer and her possible
connection to the owners of a brown van allegedly spotted in the Petersons'
neighborhood before her disappearance.
The document indicates that Deanna Renfro pawned a gold Croton watch six days
after Laci Peterson's disappearance - a gold watch almost identical to one Laci
tried to auction on eBay weeks earlier, according to the records of the Petersons'
eBay account.
Laci Peterson, 27, disappeared Dec. 24, 2002. Four days later, a rape crisis
counselor told police that an unidentified woman reported she had been raped by
two men and two women in a brown van during a satanic ritual.

A watch Laci Peterson attempted to sell on eBay
According to the counselor's account, the victim said that, during the ritual, the
group mentioned a Christmas day death, one she would read about in the papers.
When police tracked down the van to a nearby campsite on Dec. 30, among the four
people in the van were Donny and Mary Renfrow. Court TV sources indicated that
Deanna Renfro (despite a different spelling in documents) is related to the
Renfrows and may be Donny Renfrow's daughter.
The receipt from the pawn shop indicates that, the day after the police visit to
the campsite, Deanna Renfro, who has a long criminal history including at least
one methamphetamine arrest, pawned the gold Croton watch for $20.

The pawn shop where Deanna Renfo pawned a gold Croton watch for $20.
The bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn son were found four months later on the
shore of San Francisco Bay. Her husband, Scott, faces the death penalty if
convicted of both murders.
"Is the pawned watch the same as Laci's? Are the Renfrows related?" Crier said.
"Court TV is working to resolve these unanswered questions, but in the meantime, a
conspiracy theory is born."


Håkan Gustavsson

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Jul 6, 2004, 7:49:44 PM7/6/04
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When will Deanna Renfro retain Gloria Allred?

Haakan
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Geragos: "You'd be hard-pressed to find a prosecutor who couldn't put together an indictment, let alone a conviction in the case. His defense at this point is, 'Oh, my God, somebody else must have done it and was trying to set me up.' I don't think it's ever going to wash."

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Kris Baker

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Jul 6, 2004, 7:55:24 PM7/6/04
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"Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote
in message news:5MGGc.2446$WX.769@attbi_s51...

> Wow, sure is a crazy coincidence that Crier "obtained" these documents
> right in the middle of the trial, huh? She's smoking the G's choad big
time.
> When is the G going to be smacked around for violating the gag order?
> Or Crier? (different kind of gag).
>
> What utter and complete horseshit. Watch for the big surprise that Deanna
> Renfro can't be located.
>
> RstJ

We've got pictures of other evidence. Wouldn't this
be a piece of defense evidence? Geragos couldn't
"wave it around in court" if it weren't evidence now,
could he?

> http://courttv.com/trials/peterson/070604_crier_ctv.html
(snip)


> The receipt from the pawn shop indicates that, the day after
> the police visit to the campsite, Deanna Renfro, who has a
> long criminal history including at least one methamphetamine
> arrest, pawned the gold Croton watch for $20.

Wha?????

I *saw* Crier's show, and it was specifically stated that the
Renfros, despite living in a van in a park near a lake, had
NO criminal history.

Are they making this stuff up on-the-go?

http://courttv.com/trials/peterson/docs/renfropawnslip.html
1 14K yellow gold quartz watch withg scratches used

Aren't they 'sposed to record the serial number of the item?

> "Is the pawned watch the same as Laci's? Are the Renfrows
> related?" Crier said. "Court TV is working to resolve these
> unanswered questions, but in the meantime, a
> conspiracy theory is born."

And....when will Catherine Crier quit that off-putting "I'll lower my
voice for emphasis and sound like a moo-cow" thing?

Oh yeah, eBay. We don't know if Laci sold it or not, but why don't
they show us the damned auction they keep crowing about?

Kris


PScan16416

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:00:06 PM7/6/04
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>Geragos has found a way around the gag order....his good friend
>Cardoza is doing his talking for him...wonder if he put him on the
>payroll..

good observation!

Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:28:58 PM7/6/04
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"Håkan Gustavsson" <haakan.g...@2100.net> wrote in message
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As soon as she gets out of rehab/jail, I bet.


RstJ


Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:29:55 PM7/6/04
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"Mardy" <M...@gte.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:40:49 GMT, "Robert St. James \(el corazon del
> demonio\)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Wow, sure is a crazy coincidence that Crier "obtained" these documents
> >right in the middle of the trial, huh? She's smoking the G's choad big time.
> >When is the G going to be smacked around for violating the gag order?
> >Or Crier? (different kind of gag).
>
> Geragos has found a way around the gag order....his good friend
> Cardoza is doing his talking for him...wonder if he put him on the
> payroll..
> M

Talking is one thing. Referring to documents is another. The G's never been
much one for rules, though. He probably figures he can balance it against
Ed Steele's antics, and walk away zero sum.


RstJ


Maggie

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Jul 6, 2004, 8:51:53 PM7/6/04
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>"Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote
>in message news:5MGGc.2446$WX.769@attbi_s51...
>> Wow, sure is a crazy coincidence that Crier "obtained" these documents
>> right in the middle of the trial, huh? She's smoking the G's choad big
>time.
>> When is the G going to be smacked around for violating the gag order?
>> Or Crier? (different kind of gag).
>>
>> What utter and complete horseshit. Watch for the big surprise that Deanna
>> Renfro can't be located.
>>
>> RstJ
>
> We've got pictures of other evidence. Wouldn't this
> be a piece of defense evidence? Geragos couldn't
> "wave it around in court" if it weren't evidence now,
> could he?
>
>> http://courttv.com/trials/peterson/070604_crier_ctv.html
>(snip)
>> The receipt from the pawn shop indicates that, the day after
>> the police visit to the campsite, Deanna Renfro, who has a
>> long criminal history including at least one methamphetamine
>> arrest, pawned the gold Croton watch for $20.
>
kris said:
> Wha?????
>
> I *saw* Crier's show, and it was specifically stated that the
> Renfros, despite living in a van in a park near a lake, had
> NO criminal history.
>
> Are they making this stuff up on-the-go?

***Perhaps the reference to "no criminal record" referred only to the senior
Renfros? More likely, though, the Crier research people spelled the last name
wrong when doing the criminal record check. Perhaps they caught their error
before the story was posted on the website.


>
> http://courttv.com/trials/peterson/docs/renfropawnslip.html
> 1 14K yellow gold quartz watch withg scratches used
>
> Aren't they 'sposed to record the serial number of the item?

***You'd think. Is it possible that the watch didn't have a serial number?


>
>> "Is the pawned watch the same as Laci's? Are the Renfrows
>> related?" Crier said. "Court TV is working to resolve these
>> unanswered questions, but in the meantime, a
>> conspiracy theory is born."
>
> And....when will Catherine Crier quit that off-putting "I'll lower my
> voice for emphasis and sound like a moo-cow" thing?
>
>Oh yeah, eBay. We don't know if Laci sold it or not, but why don't
>they show us the damned auction they keep crowing about?

***Don't you think e-bay's taken all of laci's auction items down by now?

Maggie

"Nancy, if you were 8 1/2 months pregnant and I was married to you, I'd be
going fishing Christmas Eve." -- Mark Geragos, to Nancy Grace on LKL

circe

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Jul 6, 2004, 9:02:44 PM7/6/04
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:29:55 GMT, "Robert St. James \(el corazon del
demonio\)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Mardy" <M...@gte.net> wrote in message
>news:8aeme0hu2hpn86g7j...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:40:49 GMT, "Robert St. James \(el corazon del
>> demonio\)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Wow, sure is a crazy coincidence that Crier "obtained" these documents
>> >right in the middle of the trial, huh? She's smoking the G's choad big time.
>> >When is the G going to be smacked around for violating the gag order?
>> >Or Crier? (different kind of gag).
>>
>> Geragos has found a way around the gag order....his good friend
>> Cardoza is doing his talking for him...wonder if he put him on the
>> payroll..
>> M
>
>Talking is one thing. Referring to documents is another. The G's never been
>much one for rules, though. He probably figures he can balance it against
>Ed Steele's antics, and walk away zero sum.
>
>
>RstJ
>

So what are the things Geragos has done that are against the rules?
The verifiable things, not the ones your imaginary firends tell you
about.


circe


Kris Baker

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Jul 6, 2004, 9:10:54 PM7/6/04
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"Maggie" <maggi...@aol.comSPAMBLOC> wrote in message
news:20040706205153...@mb-m28.aol.com...

> >
> >Oh yeah, eBay. We don't know if Laci sold it or not, but
> >why don't they show us the damned auction they keep
> >crowing about?
>
> ***Don't you think e-bay's taken all of laci's auction items down by now?
>
> Maggie

Which is what I've been saying for the past few
hours, Maggie: WHERE did this "Laci's auction"
come from?

Auctions are visible for (generally) 90 days on eBay IF
you know the auction number, up to 30 days if you know
the buyer/seller ID, but searchable only for up to 21
days past closing. There are some details regarding
most amateur sellers' picture hosting that make it
unlikely that an auction even 30 days old would have
an image of the item visible.

IF that's Laci's auction: someone grabbed that
screenshot right after she disappeared, BEFORE
we even knew about her trying to sell jewelry on
eBay.

I'd be stunned if that was really Laci's auction.

If it is, Crier *knows* that the non-diamond Renfro
watch is not Laci's.

Kris


Robert St. James (el corazon del demonio)

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Jul 6, 2004, 9:14:14 PM7/6/04
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"circe" <ci...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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Just where do you think the "documents" outlining the defense's idiot notions
came from? How do you think they were "obtained?"

You're pretty naive if you don't think the defense is leaking all over this case
like a sailor out back of a bar.

RstJ

circe

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Jul 6, 2004, 9:20:09 PM7/6/04
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 01:14:14 GMT, "Robert St. James \(el corazon del
demonio\)" <robert...@yahoo.com> wrote:


You do understand that verifiable is not the same as delusional, don't
you?


circe


jet

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Jul 7, 2004, 5:31:21 AM7/7/04
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She likely had a copy of the image[s] she put up on her computer.

Kris Baker

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Jul 7, 2004, 11:03:57 AM7/7/04
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"jet" <j...@untool.net> wrote in message
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Laci did?
If so, it was awfully nice of her to hand them over, don't you think?
What a trooper!

The auction I saw Crier hold up, looked like it had eBay-hosted
images.

Kris


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