Re: Serial killer Daniel Lee Corwin is legally murdered by your diseased & malevolent society,in TX
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> John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
>
> >
> > [a bunch of clear, unadulterated garbage snipped]
> >
> > I suppose there is nothing I can say but read Joel's postings if you
> >want to see self-refutation.
>
> Hello John,
>
> Thanks for the advice. I would urge all humans to read the 10,000 posts I
> have made over the past 27 months. Ya never know, a few of you might even see
> the light and recognize that I have given you WISDOM and truth beyond your
> wildest dreams.
>
> > I can only hope for his sake that he is
> >just joking around.
>
> Hope for whatever you wish, Inferior One. I am 100% honest, sincere, and
> serious, in every post I have made to this NG, for the past 27 months.
>
> Take care, JOE
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ...John
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On Thursday, December 10, 1998 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Joe1orbit wrote:
> John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
>
> >
> > [a bunch of clear, unadulterated garbage snipped]
> >
> > I suppose there is nothing I can say but read Joel's postings if you
> >want to see self-refutation.
>
> Hello John,
>
> Thanks for the advice. I would urge all humans to read the 10,000 posts I
> have made over the past 27 months. Ya never know, a few of you might even see
> the light and recognize that I have given you WISDOM and truth beyond your
> wildest dreams.
>
> > I can only hope for his sake that he is
> >just joking around.
>
> Hope for whatever you wish, Inferior One. I am 100% honest, sincere, and
> serious, in every post I have made to this NG, for the past 27 months.
>
> Take care, JOE
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ...John
> ></PRE></HTML>
I am not sure if you realize what you are saying. What I know is my Cousin Mary Carrell Risinger and Her baby girl who she loved more than anything even her own life as she proved that Halloween night in 1997. You say that Daniel was made into a killer by society, the abuse, the head injuries. Well explain to me, the baby That was in the car that watched her mother be brutelly murdered, the fight went on for awhile, she was fighting for herself and the baby. Does that mean in your mind you believe because of what the baby seen she can grow up and murder and that would be okay. I have to tell you from reading all you comments, I would not have a problem with her killing you.
brum...@gmail.com
> For anyone reading this . I'm at a point in my life where I would like to meet the family that picked me up the night of my mothers mirder. I don't do facebook or anything because of my eye diseases . It was the Mary Carrell Risinger mirder at the car wash in huntsville tx October 31 1987. It would mean alot if I could meet the people who help save me.
Tisha Wilkinson Brumley
brum...@gmail.com
> Yes I was 3 at the time of her murder. It was supposed to say 30. Thabks for pointing out my mistakes. because all of this hatd for me to read and tyoe considering i have 2 eye disease and going blind. And what none of the articles mention is that he alot my wrist an a main vein in my arm an left me for dead also. My mother fought him until she got me locked in the car . I do feel like its my place to say that he should have been executed. It's a fact most sexual predators don't change and if they had kept him locked up for his first rape and assault he wouldn't have had a chance to mirder 3 more. So consider it fixing their first mistake. And maybe your right it's actually up to God and I'm pretty sure God sent him right where he belongs to burn in hell for an eternity. And vengeance was never my intention. Simply that he was still aloe until I was almost 15 yea old and I was completely terrified . What if he gets out.... What might happen.....I would have lived my life in een more fear than I already still do.
I am also loosing my sight. I know how you feel. I have often thought of you so many times over the years, I sill remember exactly what I was doing when my Great Aunt Jo call the house to tell mama what had happened to you and your mama.
Here is my email if you need any help finding them. Brum...@gmail.com Your granddaddy was my great uncle dolf, my mom was Lona. Your Grandpa and my nanny Ruth were brother and sisters.
I hope to hear from you. You can call me anytime if you want 432-349-4897.
Tisha Wilkinson Brumley
ddo...@gmail.com
Megabite
Joe1orbit cried:
> Hello,
>
> [snip happens]
>
>
> Over in Texas yesterday, 40 year old Daniel Lee Corwin was legally murdered
> by the society that victimized him since birth, and created/shaped/molded him
> into becoming a serial killer. Daniel was not an especially prolific SK, but he
> did kill at least three gals, in serial fashion, over a none month time period
> back in 1987. Thus he does qualify as a full-fledged serial killer. Daniel
> raped, strangled, and stabbed his victims.
[snip]
One down, three more to go this week...*applause*.
MEGABITE
Delilah
a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to blame
society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
Joe1orbit wrote in message <19981208085140...@ng-cb1.aol.com>...
>Hello,
>
> Okay folks, I got another very BUSY day ahead of me, believe it or not.
Two
>in a row. But let me try to squeeze in 2 or 3 new thread TC News posts this
>morning, before I must and will put my 'puter into Sleep mode and go out
>amongst you humans for about 8 hours.
>
> Your diseased society legally murders so many of it's own victimized
>creations that it is of course impossible for me to post about each case.
But
>certainly when a genuine SERIAL or prolific mass murderer gets executed, I
feel
>an extra special obligation to note the murder of the victim publically, at
>this NG.
>
> Over in Texas yesterday, 40 year old Daniel Lee Corwin was legally
murdered
>by the society that victimized him since birth, and created/shaped/molded
him
>into becoming a serial killer. Daniel was not an especially prolific SK,
but he
>did kill at least three gals, in serial fashion, over a none month time
period
>back in 1987. Thus he does qualify as a full-fledged serial killer. Daniel
>raped, strangled, and stabbed his victims. He slaughtered his third and
final
>victim as the woman's three year old daughter stood by and watched.
>
> We learn below than Daniel explained his 3 killings to police and head
>shrinks by citing "uncontrollable pressures in my head". This is very
typical
>of an abused and traumatized child who is not IN TOUCH with and does not
>consciously embrace, the reality of his own childhood experiences.
>
> As he faced the final hour of his life, knowing that he himself was going
to
>be unjustly brutalized for a final time, just as he had been throughout his
>life, Daniel demonstrated the TREMENDOUS moral SUPERIORITY that he
possessed,
>in comparison to your society, when he addressed the families of the women
he
>slaughtered and stated: "I want to express my sorrow and regrets from the
>deepest part of my heart. I'm sorry. I regret what happened and I want you
to
>know that I'm sorry. I just ask and hope that sometime down the line that
you
>can forgive me.'' IMO, Daniel had NOTHING to be sorry about and no need to
ask
>for forgiveness from anyone. He DESERVED an apology from his society.
Societal
>leaders needed to fall to their knees and beg Daniel's forgiveness, for
having
>CHOSEN to allow him to experience the trauma and injustice, from birth
onward,
>that caused Daniel to become a serial killer.
>
> During his trials, Daniel's SLAVEOWNERS took the witness stand and told
the
>jury and judge that their CHILD had suffered two serious head injuries
during
>childhood. Psychiatrists who examined Daniel said that there is a very real
>likelihood that he suffered brain damage as a child. Does your society
care?
>Did the jury or judge care?? Of course not. They were MORE than happy to
>declare this VICTIM to be a DEMON, and to satiate their own perverse
bloodlust
>by imposing a legal murder sentence upon Daniel.
>
> Now Daniel is dead. He is a murder victim himself. But his legacy lives
on.
>The legacy of all societal predators lives on, and the ones who are treated
>MOST outrageously, legally murdered by their own diseased society, become
>MARTYRS.
>
> Rest In Peace, Daniel.
>
> Take care, JOE
>
> The following appears courtesy of yesterday's Associated Press news wire:
>
>Texas Serial Killer Executed
>
>HUNTSVILLE, Texas (AP) -- A serial killer who blamed uncontrollable
``pressures
>in my head'' for his crimes was executed by injection Monday for murdering
>three women during a nine-month period of 1987.
>
>Daniel Lee Corwin, 40, of Temple, was condemned under the state's serial
killer
>statute for raping, strangling and stabbing two women, and fatally stabbing
a
>third as her 3-year-old daughter watched.
>
>Corwin spent much of a lengthy final statement addressing six family
members of
>his victims, who watched from a few feet away.
>
>``I want to express my sorrow and regrets from the deepest part of my
heart,''
>he said. ``I'm sorry. I regret what happened and I want you to know that
I'm
>sorry. I just ask and hope that sometime down the line that you can forgive
>me.''
>
>Corwin was paroled after serving nine years of a 40-year sentence for
>aggravated rape, and was later sentenced to 99 years for raping a college
>student and slashing her throat. She survived and identified Corwin. In
prison,
>he confessed to the three 1987 murders.
>
>Corwin's parents testified that he suffered two severe cuts to his head
when he
>was a child. Psychologists who interviewed him suggested he could have
suffered
>brain damage that was not easily detectable.
>
>Corwin told detectives the pressure in his head led to what he called
``tunnel
>vision'' that after a few days led to his need to commit violence.
>AP-NY-12-07-98
>-------------------------------------------------------
> The following appears courtesy of today's Associated Press news wire:
>
>Texas executes serial killer who blamed pressures in head
>
>12/08/98
>
>By Michael Graczyk / Associated Press
>
>HUNTSVILLE, Texas - A serial killer who blamed uncontrollable "pressures in
my
>head" for his violent sprees was executed Monday for murdering three
southeast
>Texas women during a nine-month period of 1987.
>
>Daniel Lee Corwin, 40, of Temple, was pronounced dead at 6:33 p.m., seven
>minutes after a lethal flow of drugs was started into his arms.
>
>Mr. Corwin spent much of a lengthy final statement addressing six family
>members of his victims who watched from a few feet away.
>
>"I want to express my sorrow and regrets from the deepest part of my
heart," he
>said. "I'm sorry. I regret what happened, and I want you to know that I'm
>sorry. I just ask and hope that sometime down the line that you can forgive
me.
>I think in a lot of ways without that it becomes very empty and hollow and
the
>only thing we have is hatred and anger."
>
>He also suggested that the state reconsider the death penalty, which he
called
>"two-sided."
>
>"There's pain on both sides," he said.
>
>Mr. Corwin was the 18th convicted murderer to receive lethal injection this
>year in Texas and the first of four on consecutive days this week.
>
>Mr. Corwin was condemned under the state's serial killer statute for the
>murders of Alice Martin, 72, of Normangee; Debra Lynn Ewing, 26, of Conroe;
and
>Mary Carrell Risinger, 36, of Huntsville.
>
>Ms. Martin was abducted while walking near her home in February 1987. She
was
>found in a Robertson County field, raped, strangled and stabbed.
>
>Ms. Ewing was abducted in July 1987 from her job at a Huntsville eyeglass
>office. She was found two days later in Montgomery County, raped, strangled
and
>stabbed.
>
>Ms. Risinger was fatally stabbed during an attempted abduction while
washing
>her car at a Huntsville carwash in October 1987. Her then 3-year-old
daughter,
>who was inside the vehicle, watched the attack.
>
>A Montgomery County jury in 1990, after hearing chilling testimony from
three
>rape victims who survived his attacks, took only 25 minutes to decide that
Mr.
>Corwin should be put to death.
>
>"I think they invented the death penalty for people like him," Peter
Speers,
>the former Montgomery County district attorney who prosecuted Corwin, said
>Monday. "He's a bona fide serial killer. And I think the events surrounding
him
>point out how lousy the parole system here was in the 1980s. He's just bad,
>bad, bad."
>
>Mr. Corwin, who worked as a cabinet maker and had three years of college,
had a
>history of sexual assaults beginning as a teenager and was serving a
99-year
>sentence for attempted capital murder from Brazos County when he confessed
to
>killing the three women.
>
>He earlier had been paroled after serving more than nine years of a 40-year
>term for aggravated rape. He had pleaded guilty to the rape charge stemming
>from the abduction of a classmate at Temple High School who was stabbed and
>left for dead. The wound, however, just missed her heart and she survived
to
>identify Mr. Corwin as her attacker.
>
>The 99-year term was for the abduction of a Texas A&M University student
who
>was raped and left for dead after having her throat slashed. The woman, who
had
>been tied to a tree, managed to free herself and stumble out of some woods
to a
>road where she was picked up by a motorist. Mr. Corwin's fingerprint later
was
>found on her car and he pleaded guilty to attempted capital murder.
>
>Two years later, in a conversation with a prison sociologist, he began
talking
>about the Risinger killing, then the others, and later he told authorities
>details of the previous rapes, including one committed when he was 14 and
the
>victim was a 13-year-old girl baby-sitting at a home in his neighborhood.
>
>Mr. Corwin's parents testified at his murder trial that he suffered two
>accidental but severe cuts to his head when he was a child. Psychologists
who
>have interviewed him suggested he could have suffered brain damage that was
not
>easily detectable.
>
>Mr. Corwin told detectives the pressure in his head led to what he called
>"tunnel vision" that after a few days led to his need to commit violence.
>
>On Tuesday, Texas prison officials were set to execute Jeff Emery, 39, for
the
>rape and stabbing death of a Texas A&M University student at her College
>Station apartment in 1979.
>-------------------------------------------------------
> The following appears courtesy of yesterday's Reuters news wire:
>
>Texas executes man for 1987 murders
>
>HUNTSVILLE, Texas, Dec 7 (Reuters) - A former cabinet maker who killed
three
>women in separate 1987 attacks was executed by lethal injection on Monday
at a
>state prison.
>
>Daniel Corwin, 40, was the 18th person put to death this year in Texas and
the
>first of four scheduled for execution this week in the nation's busiest
death
>chamber.
>
>Corwin was pronounced dead at 6:33 p.m. CST, (0033 GMT Tuesday) seven
minutes
>after a lethal mix of chemicals was injected into his arms.
>
>In his last words, Corwin said he regretted what he had done and apologised
to
>his victims' family members, who witnessed the execution.
>
>``I just ask and hope that sometime down the line that you can forgive me.
I
>think in a lot of ways that without that, it becomes very empty and hollow
and
>the only thing we have is hatred and anger,'' he said while strapped to a
>gurney at the Walls Unit in downtown Huntsville, 70 miles (112 km) north of
>Houston.
>
>Corwin also spoke out against the death penalty, saying ``there's pain on
both
>sides.''
>
>Corwin died for the stabbing deaths of Alice Martin, 72, Debra Ewing, 26,
and
>Mary Risinger, 36, in attacks that occurred in southeast Texas during a
>nine-month period in 1987.
>
>Martin and Ewing were raped and Risinger was killed while her young
daughter
>watched from inside their car at a Huntsville car wash.
>
>When he committed the crimes, Corwin was out on parole for an earlier rape
in
>which he slashed the victim's throat, but did not kill her. She later
>identified him as her attacker.
>
>Corwin spent his last day visiting with friends and sorting out his
belongings.
>He ordered steak, potatoes, peas, cake and root beer for his last meal.
>
>21:20 12-07-98
>
Joe1orbit
>Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head injuries as
>a child?
Hello,
I am fully aware that there is almost NO chance that you possess the
rationality to understand the following piece of brilliant insight and Truth,
but I'll be generous and give it to you anyway: Just because a particular human
may not have deserved to be murdered, that fact has absolutely no impact upon
the True Reality right of every predator to claim as a victim, any living thing
on planet earth, and if the predator can justify his choice to himself, he has
as much right to kill a person who does not "deserve" to die, as you have the
right to kiss your offspring goodnight.
Therefore, Daniel, a victimized creation of your society who suffered
ADDITIONAL overt abuse, mistreatment or injustice, beyond the two head
injuries, had a True Reality right to murder any life form on planet earth. The
fact that the life form may not have deserved to die, plays NO role with regard
to the issue of whether Daniel had a right to kill the life form.
> If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to blame
>society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
ABSOLUTELY. Society would be 100% to blame, and I would not want my killer to
be punished by society in any way. You see, I embrace ALL truth. I am not a
narrowminded, bigoted, hypocrite.
Take care, JOE
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John Alway
>
> Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head injuries as
> a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to blame
> society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
I'm with you there. The poster you are responding to is defending the
indefensible.
...John
Joe1orbit
Joe1orbit
>Joe1orbit cried:
Hello,
I gave you a piece of brilliant truth this morning. Being a HATER of truth,
and a loyal member of a society that is far more malevolent than Daniel could
ever hope to be, I fully understand why you replied to my post as you have.
Joe1...@aol.com Wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> [snip happens]
>>
>>
>> Over in Texas yesterday, 40 year old Daniel Lee Corwin was legally
>murdered
>> by the society that victimized him since birth, and created/shaped/molded
>him
>> into becoming a serial killer. Daniel was not an especially prolific SK,
>but he
>> did kill at least three gals, in serial fashion, over a none month time
>period
>> back in 1987. Thus he does qualify as a full-fledged serial killer. Daniel
>> raped, strangled, and stabbed his victims.
>[snip]
>
>One down, three more to go this week...*applause*.
> MEGABITE
Don't worry. "We" will kill far more of you, than you could ever kill of us.
Each one of us that you kill, serves as an open invitation for us to begin or
intensify our acts of predatory vengeance against the society that created us,
YOUR society.
Take care, JOE
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John Alway
>
> Delilah wrote:
>
> >> Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head injuries
> >as
> >> a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to blame
> >> society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
>
>
> > I'm with you there. The poster you are responding to is defending the
> >indefensible.
> Ha! I'm "defending the indefensible"?? Beautiful example of the warped
> thinking of a brainwashed and loyal societal hypocrite!
You are defending the indefensible. Indeed, your arguments are a
reductio ad absurdum.
> Taking a helpless
> child, MAKING him into a serial killer, and then MURDERING your own creation
> because he offends your sensibilities and you are full of suppressed and denied
> bloodthirst that your malevolent society gives you permission to channel
> towards acts of legal murder, IS "indefensible".
Nobody made him into a "murderer". This is wild-eyed rhetoric shows
me that you have no comprehension of how the real world works. No one
even has that much understanding of the human mind! We can't make a
robot as smart as a bug yet, for goodness sakes! However, murder is an
act of free will. Societies can help someone go bad, or even
themselves be really bad (Communist Russia, Nazi Germany), but free will
is always a part of a man.
This is the bottom line, regardless of how he got to the state he ended
up in (and it certainly wasn't caused by anyone's deliberate plans), he
was mentally on the level of an animal, and so, for self-preservation,
at the very least, he must be treated accordingly. It's no different
than shooting a wild grizzly that kills or harms people. He behaved
like an animal, he should be treated like one. To do otherwise is to
put your own life and the lives of those you love in jeopardy.
However, on the principle of justice I believe in an eye for an eye.
> Daniel becoming a serial killer is not only 100% justifiable, at requires no
> "defense" at all, since he, and all enraged predators, are nothing more than
> victimized creations of your malevolent society.
Lunacy cubed. The vast majority of the people don't engage in that
sort of behavior, which blows away your argument. If you'd learn some
induction you'd realize that. Furthermore, even though I reject your
characterization of this society as out in the ozone, I have a great
deal of disagreement with the current justice system. I don't like
plea bargaining, and I don't laws that criminalize no-rights violating
actions, and I don't like the sloppy thinking that I all too often see
among jurors and lawyers in a court room. These things don't make for a
very good justice system.
Logic is in short supply, and thus justice is much harder to come by.
> But I know that this piece of
> TRUTH is unacceptable to the narrow, bigoted, brainwashed, bloodthirsty brains,
> of 99.99% of you humans.
It's FALSE, and you are defending the indefensible. And I am
absolutely for the upholding of individual rights on principle, which
means that I'm against harming innocent people on principle. This is a
purely benevolent and good ideal. Those that do lift a hand against
others, however, must meet the consequences, in the name of life,
liberty and justice.
...John
Joe1orbit
>> >Joe1orbit cried:
Joe1...@aol.com Wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I gave you a piece of brilliant truth this morning. Being a HATER of
>truth,
>> and a loyal member of a society that is far more malevolent than Daniel
>could
>> ever hope to be, I fully understand why you replied >>to my post as you
have.
Megabite <"die"@ spammer.com> Wrote:
>Your twisted mind just makes you THINK you >understand.
Hello,
No, I understand. Period. I understand why you are frightened of Daniel, why
you are frightened of the Truth, why you are frightened of facing up to the
fact of what Daniel was, a victim of your society.
>You didn't know him,
>how
>can you defend him?
Very easily. Because I know that he was born pure and innocent and totally
lacking in all homicidal urges or needs or desires. And then he had enough
abuse, injustice, trauma, and societal malevolence/hypocrisy/lies/myths imposed
upon him, as to cause him to be TRANSFORMED from an innocent, loving baby, into
an enraged predator and multiple murderer.
>The only thing you know about him is what you have >read.
I am insightful to know to know that ALL multiple murderers and repeat
predators are enraged victimized creations of society, who at the time they
commit thewir crimes, are ALREADY equal victims to the people that they kill,
and they become far GREATER victims when your diseased society gives itself
permission to punitively punish them in ANY way, much less via the ultimately
unjust act of legal murder known as the death penalty.
Take care, JOE
> Regards,
> MEGABITE
>
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John Alway
> John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
[...]
> >However, murder is an
> >act of free will.
> Every persaon who commit murder is DRIVEN to commit murder by the sum total
> of his/her life experiences.
Murder is _wrong_ and a _choice_. Where there is a _choice_ nobody is
_driven_ to do something.
> All acts of murder are 100% legitimate and valid,
> in expressing the True Reality of the murderer, as it was forcibly imposed upon
> him/her, by the sum total of their life experiences from birth onward.
There is but one reality which we all live in. Every individual is
responsible to formulate rational judgments about the world.
> > Societies can help someone go bad, or even
> >themselves be really bad (Communist Russia, Nazi Germany), but free will
> >is always a part of a man.
> The murderer has the right to kill.
Rights are set up precisely to protect men from such things. You are
making no sense, although I get the impression that isn't important to
you.
> He has the right to embrace his right to
> kill, and to act upon it.
If he behaves like an animal, he dies like one.
> ...If he has the free will to refrain from killing, so
> what??
So _he_ has a _choice_, and so _he_ is responsible. In fact, nobody
else can be held responsible for a man's actions since nobody else can
make them for him. The only way this could be true is if he doesn't
have a full enough context to know what he did, say he is a child.
Children could do things that are outside their understanding and thus
can't be considered evil, but, rather, simply immature.
> He is not obligated to employ that free will, at the cost of denying his
> True Reality to himself,
But every choice he makes is _his_, and thus is governed by _his_
freewill.
> just like no LOVING person should be obligated to
> refrain from kissing or hugging any fellow human.
This is a non sequitur. We're talking about the use of deadly force,
not a kiss. Furthermore, you don't have the right without the
permission of the individual anyway.
> > This is the bottom line, regardless of how he got to the state he ended
> >up in (and it certainly wasn't caused by anyone's deliberate plans), he
> >was mentally on the level of an animal, and so, for self-preservation,
> >at the very least, he must be treated accordingly.
> How totally STUPID and ridiculous! He must be treated as a MORAL SUPERIOR, as
> well as a complete victim, because that is exactly what he is. A victimized
> creation of society.
Self-preservation is "stupid and ridiculous"? I'm sorry, but your
argument has no logic to it. "Morally superior"? I hope you're
putting me on.
> > It's no different
> >than shooting a wild grizzly that kills or harms people.
> It's 100% different. The human was born into society as a totally benevolent
> child, and then was CREATED, MOLDED, and MADE into an enraged predator, by
> society itself.
There can be bad influences, and even strongly bad influences under
some circumstances, but in modern society there isn't so great an
influence on people that they can't learn that there are good people who
don't harm each other. As you live your life you make choices
continuously. Endlessly. This is what molds your character. If men
were completely at the mercy of society they could never make any
progress. We'd never have had philosophers like Plato and Aristotle
with original ideas on morality.
> And as an aside, I support the murder of human beings by
> animals, based upon the fact that the human race has victimized and preacticed
> genocide against animals since prehistoric times.
If the animals don't like it let them rise. Indeed, perhaps they
should rise against one another since they treat one another so
miserably.
> > He behaved
> >like an animal, he should be treated like one.
> Unbelievable, the bigoted hypocrisy!
I'm neither. I'm consistent, thoughtful and righteous.
> No wonder the vast mjority of murderers
> feel that they have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to KILL. They DO.
I don't give a damned what they "feel". They behave like animals they
will be treated accordingly. I value people who value life, not moral
lepers. I take exactly the view of the pulp fiction hero Doc Savage
(aka The Man of Bronze) who treated criminals like scum, and good men
with reverence.
> Thay are so MORALLY
> SUPERIOR to humans like you, and to your entire societal and cultural
> structure, that despite the lack of formal education that many of them suffewr
> from, they still realize that they have an absolute right to seek and claim
> vengeance against their creators, and they MAINTAIN moral superiority
> throughout, due to your diseased society refusing to treat them as being
> VICTIMIZED CREATIONS.
I'm afraid that you are a victim of a modern education (postmodernism
is exuding from your every sentence), which explains your completely
warped view of life. You're still responsible, mind you, for the ideas
you hold, since you have a choice.
> > To do otherwise is to
> >put your own life and the lives of those you love in >jeopardy.
> I love only myself. And I'm perfectly willing to put my life in jeopardy, in
> defense of the TRUTH and of the True Reality right of enraged societal victims
> to seek and claim violent vengeance.
You don't love yourself. Nobody who presents a so recklessly anti-life
view has any love for anything in this world. You seem to project only
hatred. Indeed, by your view you shouldn't care what anyone does
because it's all been determined.
> > However, on the principle of justice I >believe in an eye for an eye.
> How stupid. How hypocritical. To say that you believe in an "eye for an eye",
> while at the same time REJECTING the UNDENIABLE fact that all babies are born
> innocent and non homicidal, and only BECOME homicidal due to YOUR society
> malevolently causing them to experience horrific trauma, abuse, mistreatment,
> and injustice.
I never denied that babies are born innocent. Men are born tabula
rasa, and over time gain ideas and make choices. If someone is so young
and immature that you can't hold them responsible (because there context
of knowledge is so small), then that's a different case. If a baby
pushes the lever of a tractor and runs over a kills several people the
baby isn't morally culpable for any crime at all, since it didn't have
the knowledge to know what it was doing. I allow for such cases when
the facts warrant.
...John
Wolfie =^..^=
John Alway wrote:
> If the animals don't like it let them rise. Indeed, perhaps they
> should rise against one another since they treat one another so
> miserably.
???? There is no comparison here. Animals do not "treat each other miserably".
Animals do not commit intentional murder for no reason but the pleasure of it.
Anything animals do is done for survival only. Animals are not capable of cruelty or
being "evil".
wolfie
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Joe1orbit
>
>Joe1orbit wrote:
>
>> Delilah wrote:
>>
>> >> Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head
>injuries
>> >as
>> >> a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to
>blame
>> >> society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
>>
>> John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
>>
>> > I'm with you there. The poster you are responding to is defending
>the
>> >indefensible.
>>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> Ha! I'm "defending the indefensible"?? Beautiful example of the warped
>> child, MAKING him into a serial killer, and then MURDERING your own
>creation
>> because he offends your sensibilities and you are full of suppressed and
>denied
>> bloodthirst that your malevolent society gives you permission to channel
>> towards acts of legal murder, IS "indefensible".
>>
>no
>> "defense" at all, since he, and all enraged predators, are nothing more
>than
>of
>> TRUTH is unacceptable to the narrow, bigoted, brainwashed, bloodthirsty
>brains,
>> of 99.99% of you humans.
>>
>>
Megabite <"die"@ spammer.com> Wrote:
>Hello Joe,
>Face it, your wrong and people aren't going to stand for your idiotic drivel
>anymore.
Ha! I love this sentence! As if you, or the ENTIRE weight of the human race,
could have ANY impact upon my embrace of Truth. I care about what "people" will
stand for??
Thank you for the compliment. Thank you for demonstrating your Inferiority to
me.
Take care, JOE
> Best wishes,
> MEGABITE
>
>
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Joe1orbit
>> >> Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head
>injuries
>> >as
>> >> a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to
>blame
>> >> society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
>>
>> > I'm with you there. The poster you are responding to is defending
>the
>> >indefensible.
Joe1...@aol.com Wrote:
>> Hello John,
>
>> Ha! I'm "defending the indefensible"?? Beautiful example of the warped
>> thinking of a brainwashed and loyal societal >>hypocrite!
John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
>You are defending the indefensible.
Hello John,
I don't repeat myself.
> Indeed, your arguments are a
>reductio ad absurdum.
What else can I expect a loyal and devoted and brainwashed member of society
to say? My arguments are UNDENIABLY true, and yet they are UNTENABLE to you,
just like the notion of the planet earth being ROUND rather than flat was
untenable to the uninsightful humans who dwelled on this planet 400 years ago.
>> Taking a helpless
>> child, MAKING him into a serial killer, and then MURDERING your own
>creation
>> because he offends your sensibilities and you are full of suppressed and
>denied
>> bloodthirst that your malevolent society gives you permission to channel
>> towards acts of legal murder, IS "indefensible".
> Nobody made him into a "murderer".
What a silly comment.
> This is wild-eyed rhetoric shows
>me that you have no comprehension of how the real >world works.
The problem for you is the exact opposite. I see the TRUTH of life with such
crystal clarity that 99.999% of all humans who are given the chance by me to
see this same truth, are forced away by the BLINDING light, forced to reject
and renounce the unbearable and untenable truth.
> No one
>even has that much understanding of the human mind! We can't make a
>robot as smart as a bug yet, for goodness sakes!
I have no idea what sort of a parallel you are trying to draw with your two
above sentences.
>However, murder is an
>act of free will.
Every persaon who commit murder is DRIVEN to commit murder by the sum total
of his/her life experiences. All acts of murder are 100% legitimate and valid,
in expressing the True Reality of the murderer, as it was forcibly imposed upon
him/her, by the sum total of their life experiences from birth onward.
> Societies can help someone go bad, or even
>themselves be really bad (Communist Russia, Nazi Germany), but free will
>is always a part of a man.
The murderer has the right to kill. He has the right to embrace his right to
kill, and to act upon it. If he has the free will to refrain from killing, so
what?? He is not obligated to employ that free will, at the cost of denying his
True Reality to himself, just like no LOVING person should be obligated to
refrain from kissing or hugging any fellow human.
> This is the bottom line, regardless of how he got to the state he ended
>up in (and it certainly wasn't caused by anyone's deliberate plans), he
>was mentally on the level of an animal, and so, for self-preservation,
>at the very least, he must be treated accordingly.
How totally STUPID and ridiculous! He must be treated as a MORAL SUPERIOR, as
well as a complete victim, because that is exactly what he is. A victimized
creation of society.
> It's no different
>than shooting a wild grizzly that kills or harms people.
It's 100% different. The human was born into society as a totally benevolent
child, and then was CREATED, MOLDED, and MADE into an enraged predator, by
society itself. And as an aside, I support the murder of human beings by
animals, based upon the fact that the human race has victimized and preacticed
genocide against animals since prehistoric times.
> He behaved
>like an animal, he should be treated like one.
Unbelievable, the bigoted hypocrisy! No wonder the vast mjority of murderers
feel that they have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to KILL. They DO. Thay are so MORALLY
SUPERIOR to humans like you, and to your entire societal and cultural
structure, that despite the lack of formal education that many of them suffewr
from, they still realize that they have an absolute right to seek and claim
vengeance against their creators, and they MAINTAIN moral superiority
throughout, due to your diseased society refusing to treat them as being
VICTIMIZED CREATIONS.
> To do otherwise is to
>put your own life and the lives of those you love in >jeopardy.
I love only myself. And I'm perfectly willing to put my life in jeopardy, in
defense of the TRUTH and of the True Reality right of enraged societal victims
to seek and claim violent vengeance.
> However, on the principle of justice I >believe in an eye for an eye.
How stupid. How hypocritical. To say that you believe in an "eye for an eye",
while at the same time REJECTING the UNDENIABLE fact that all babies are born
innocent and non homicidal, and only BECOME homicidal due to YOUR society
malevolently causing them to experience horrific trauma, abuse, mistreatment,
and injustice.
>> Daniel becoming a serial killer is not only 100% justifiable, at requires
>no
>> "defense" at all, since he, and all enraged predators, are nothing more
>than
>> victimized creations of your malevolent society.
> Lunacy cubed.
I know. You can't accept the TRUTH. Doing so would "endanger" you and your
beloved "family". It would endanger your entire position within society. It
would endanger your sense of self. It would endanger all of the lies and myths
and hypocrisy that society has fed you since birth. So go ahead, dismiss the
Truth as being "lunacy". Live out your life embracing lies and myths. Be an
immoral, genocidal, murderer, while you CONVINCE yourself that you are a moral,
kind, loving "family man". Go ahead. See if I care. I don't. I'm happy bathing
myself each day in the glorious light of Truth.
> The vast majority of the people don't engage in that
>sort of behavior, which blows away your argument.
That makes NO sense. And I have already explained, many times, in detail, why
the vast majority of abused children do not become murderers. I'm not going to
repeat myself here, to you.
> If you'd learn some
>induction you'd realize that. Furthermore, even though I reject your
>characterization of this society as out in the ozone, I have a great
>deal of disagreement with the current justice system. I don't like
>plea bargaining, and I don't laws that criminalize no-rights violating
>actions, and I don't like the sloppy thinking that I all too often see
>among jurors and lawyers in a court room. These things don't make for a
>very good justice system.
You are a typical human, not seeing Truth, content to play your pointless
little criticism games with society. Just like 99.9% of all humans are content
to call themselves republicans or democrats,. and to think that they are FREE
or have POWER to alter societal course by voting for one human over another.
> Logic is in short supply, and thus justice is >much harder to come by.
There can be no justice in a society that is FOUNDED and sustained upon a
foundation of lies, myths, irrationality, mental illness, and hypocrisy.
>=
>> But I know that this piece of
>> TRUTH is unacceptable to the narrow, bigoted, brainwashed, bloodthirsty
>brains,
>> of 99.99% of you humans.
> It's FALSE, and you are defending the >indefensible.
I don't repeat myself. And I don't "defend" murderers. They don't NEED my
defense. They KNOW they have a True Reality right to kill. All I do is EXPRESS
this FACT.
>And I am
>absolutely for the upholding of individual rights on principle, which
>means that I'm against harming innocent people on >principle.
But your society deliberately chooses to harm and kill hundreds of thousands
of so-called "innocent" people every year, by not imposing strict mandatory
Parental Competency tests.
> This is a
>purely benevolent and good ideal. Those that do lift a hand against
>others, however, must meet the consequences, in the name of life,
>liberty and justice.
Life I said, there is no hope for a person like you. You are BLIND to the
truth, just like a person with no eyeballs. So be it.
Megabite
>
>
> >Joe1orbit cried:
>
> Hello,
>
> I gave you a piece of brilliant truth this morning. Being a HATER of truth,
> and a loyal member of a society that is far more malevolent than Daniel could
> ever hope to be, I fully understand why you replied to my post as you have.
>
>
Your twisted mind just makes you THINK you understand. You didn't know him, how
can you defend him? The only thing you know about him is what you have read.
Regards,
MEGABITE
Megabite
Joe1orbit wrote:
> Delilah wrote:
>
> >> Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head injuries
> >as
> >> a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to blame
> >> society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
>
> John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
>
> > I'm with you there. The poster you are responding to is defending the
> >indefensible.
>
> Hello John,
>
> Ha! I'm "defending the indefensible"?? Beautiful example of the warped
> thinking of a brainwashed and loyal societal hypocrite! Taking a helpless
> child, MAKING him into a serial killer, and then MURDERING your own creation
> because he offends your sensibilities and you are full of suppressed and denied
> bloodthirst that your malevolent society gives you permission to channel
> towards acts of legal murder, IS "indefensible".
>
> Daniel becoming a serial killer is not only 100% justifiable, at requires no
> "defense" at all, since he, and all enraged predators, are nothing more than
> victimized creations of your malevolent society. But I know that this piece of
> TRUTH is unacceptable to the narrow, bigoted, brainwashed, bloodthirsty brains,
> of 99.99% of you humans.
>
> Take care, JOE
>
>
Hello Joe,
Face it, your wrong and people aren't going to stand for your idiotic drivel
anymore.
Best wishes,
MEGABITE
Joe1orbit
>> Is it the victims fault that Daniel Lee Corwin suffered two head injuries
>as
>> a child? If someone were to kill you perhaps, would you expect us to blame
>> society for this and not punnish the perpetrator??
John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
> I'm with you there. The poster you are responding to is defending the
>indefensible.
Hello John,
Ha! I'm "defending the indefensible"?? Beautiful example of the warped
thinking of a brainwashed and loyal societal hypocrite! Taking a helpless
child, MAKING him into a serial killer, and then MURDERING your own creation
because he offends your sensibilities and you are full of suppressed and denied
bloodthirst that your malevolent society gives you permission to channel
towards acts of legal murder, IS "indefensible".
Daniel becoming a serial killer is not only 100% justifiable, at requires no
"defense" at all, since he, and all enraged predators, are nothing more than
victimized creations of your malevolent society. But I know that this piece of
TRUTH is unacceptable to the narrow, bigoted, brainwashed, bloodthirsty brains,
of 99.99% of you humans.
Take care, JOE
>
>
> ...John
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Night
>
> Joe1orbit wrote:
>
> [a bunch of clear, unadulterated garbage snipped]
>
> I suppose there is nothing I can say but read Joel's postings if you
> just joking around.
>
> ...John
John, you're wasting your time. Joe is very comfortable with his
beliefs and no debate will change that. Joe does post some of the better
articles on this NG; just skip to the bottom for the story if you don't
like his style.
Night
Joe1orbit
Joe1...@aol.com Wrote:
>> Every person who commit murder is DRIVEN to commit murder by the sum
>total
>> of his/her life experiences.
John Alway <jal...@icsi.net> Wrote:
> Murder is _wrong_ and a _choice_.
Hello,
Only an irrational hypocrite would say that murder is wrong, and love &
kindness is "not wrong". There is NOTHING wrong with murder. It is a valid
expression of personal rage and hate, instilled within the would-be murderer
via imposed abuse, trauma, and injustice.
> Where there is a _choice_ nobody is
>_driven_ to do something.
Murderers have a right to kill. Some kill by choice, some kill by compulsion,
some kill because they know they have a right to kill, some kill because they
are "driven" to kill. The exact reason why they kill has no bearing upon the
legitimacy of their acts of murder.
>> All acts of murder are 100% legitimate and valid,
>> in expressing the True Reality of the murderer, as it was forcibly imposed
>upon
>> him/her, by the sum total of their life experiences from birth onward.
> There is but one reality which we all live in. Every individual is
>responsible to formulate rational judgments about the >world.
No. Every individual is "responsible" for being true to their own personal,
unique set of life experiences, from birth onward.
>> > Societies can help someone go bad, or even
>> >themselves be really bad (Communist Russia, Nazi Germany), but free will
>> >is always a part of a man.
>> The murderer has the right to kill.
> Rights are set up precisely to protect men >from such things.
I understand fully. I will repeat: You are a brainwashed hypocrite who is
PREJUDICED and BIGOTED against murderers because you do not accept the
undeniable fact that they have as much right to MASS MURDER human beings as you
have the right to kill and hug your wife or child. So be it.
>You are
>making no sense, although I get the impression that isn't important to
>you.
The problem for you is that I make PERFECT sense. On some TINY level, despite
your hypocrisy and prejudice, you DO realize this fact. But you will never
allow yourself to embrace the Truth. It is too terrifying to you. It
contradicts the lifetime of loyal devotion to societal myths and lies and
hypocrisy that you are OBLIGATED to continue clinging to, in order to feel safe
and accepted and to maintain the position of being a "good member of society"
that you find central to your own sense of self.
>> He has the right to embrace his right to
>> kill, and to act upon it.
> If he behaves like an animal, he dies like >one.
Killers don't behave like animals. They behave like PALE but accurate
reflections of your genocidal, totally immoral and malevolent, society.
>> ...If he has the free will to refrain from killing, so
>> what??
> So _he_ has a _choice_, and so _he_ is >responsible.
He has the RIGHT to KILL. He has the right to kill and then to not be
punitively punished in ANY way, by the society that is RESPONSIBLE for and
GUILTY of having MADE him into a human being capable/desirous of committing
murder. This fact will NOT be repeated to you, so read it carefully. He is a
VICTIMIZED CREATION of society. In committing murder, he is EVENING the SCORE.
He is claiming his "eye for an eye". Society has no right to RESPOND to the
evening of the score, by inflicting any additional punishment upon it's own
creation.
> In fact, nobody
>else can be held responsible for a man's actions since nobody else can
>make them for him.
Society is 100% responsible. The ONLY reason he commits murder is because his
society chose to enable, facilitate, and cause him to be TRANSFORMED from a
totally helpless baby, into an abused, traumatized, tortured VICTIM.
> The only way this could be true is if he doesn't
>have a full enough context to know what he did, say he is a child.
>Children could do things that are outside their understanding and thus
>can't be considered evil, but, rather, simply immature.
That is ridiculous. A fully mature person, a highly intelligent person, who
THOUGHTFULLY decides to commit murder based upon their life experiences, is far
more justified in their choice, than is a child who "blindly" lashes out in a
murderous way without being fully in touch with their True Reality. Although of
course I respect ALL murderer.
>> He is not obligated to employ that free will, at the cost of denying his
>> True Reality to himself,
> But every choice he makes is _his_, and thus is governed by _his_
>freewill.
How STUPID. How can you be so BLIND?? How can you not see that every child is
born as a totally BLANK PAGE, and that your MALEVOLENT society deliberately
chooses to IMPOSE enough abuse, injustice, and brutality upon some children, as
to cause them to realize that they are entitled to seek and claim violent
vengeance for the abuse/injustice that was malevolently imposed upon them, via
MURDER. And they ARE so entitled. To the same degree that YOU are entitled to
REFRAIN from committing murder, other humans are entitled to commit murder.
>> just like no LOVING person should be obligated to
>> refrain from kissing or hugging any fellow human.
> This is a non sequitur. We're talking about the use of deadly force,
>not a kiss.
Here we go. COMPLETE hypocrisy, total lack of insight, devotion to
irrationality. It's hopeless. The TRUTH whichis so blindingly clear to me, is
destined to remain denied, suppressed, rejected, and hidden, from and by you.
So be it.
> Furthermore, you don't have the right without the
>permission of the individual anyway.
I pity you. A true SLAVE to societal doctrine.
>> > This is the bottom line, regardless of how he got to the state he
>ended
>> >up in (and it certainly wasn't caused by anyone's deliberate plans), he
>> >was mentally on the level of an animal, and so, for self-preservation,
>> >at the very least, he must be treated accordingly.
>> How totally STUPID and ridiculous! He must be treated as a MORAL
>SUPERIOR, as
>> well as a complete victim, because that is exactly what he is. A victimized
>> creation of society.
> Self-preservation is "stupid and ridiculous"?
It is stupid and ridiculous for you to hypocritically deny the right of your
own victimized societal creations to commit murder.
> I'm sorry, but your
>argument has no logic to it.
The problem is that my argument is TOO logical for you. Too DANGEROUS for you
to accept. So go ahead, cling to your irrationality.
> "Morally superior"?
Yes.
> I hope you're
>putting me on.
I would never do that.
>> > It's no different
>> >than shooting a wild grizzly that kills or harms >>people.
>> It's 100% different. The human was born into society as a totally
>benevolent
>> child, and then was CREATED, MOLDED, and MADE into an enraged predator, by
>> society itself.
> There can be bad influences, and even strongly bad influences under
>some circumstances, but in modern society there isn't so great an
>influence on people that they can't learn that there are good people who
>don't harm each other.
Who CARES if there are "good people"! Each individual human life form is
responsible for accurately reflecting their own PERSONAL life experiences, in
the life choices that they make. If they are rational, they do NOT allow the
fact that there are "good people who don't harm each other" in the world, to
cause them to REFRAIN from committing murder, if they did not personally
experience significany benefits from these "good people", during their
childhood.
> As you live your life you make choices
>continuously. Endlessly. This is what molds your >character.
No. A person's childhood experiences are all that is required to justify the
commission of murder, or the choice to not commit murder. Either choice is
equally valid, and 99.999% of the time is made specifically due to personal
life experiences that occured PRIOR to the individual reaching age 21.
> If men
>were completely at the mercy of society they could never make any
>progress.
If a specific human wants to try and TRANSCEND their life experiences, so be
it. No human has an OBLIGATION to do so.
>We'd never have had philosophers like Plato and Aristotle
>with original ideas on morality.
Yes, we would. Since not all children are severely abused or traumatized.
>> And as an aside, I support the murder of human beings by
>> animals, based upon the fact that the human race has victimized and
>preacticed
>> genocide against animals since prehistoric times.
> If the animals don't like it let them rise. Indeed, perhaps they
>should rise against one another since they treat one another so
>miserably.
Each individual animal has the right to claim vengeance against humans. They
have no obligation to "rise" en masse.
>> > He behaved
>> >like an animal, he should be treated like one.
>> Unbelievable, the bigoted hypocrisy!
> I'm neither.
Yes, you are.
>I'm consistent, thoughtful and righteous.
I don't repeat myself.
>> No wonder the vast mjority of murderers
>> feel that they have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to KILL. They DO.
> I don't give a damned what they "feel".
I know you don't. And that serves to VALIDATE even FURTHER their right to
kill.
>They behave like animals they
>will be treated accordingly. I value people who value life, not moral
>lepers.
Do as you see fit in life. I value myself. I value NO other life form on
planet earth other than myself.
> I take exactly the view of the pulp fiction hero Doc Savage
>(aka The Man of Bronze) who treated criminals like scum, and good men
>with reverence.
I don't care what view you take. However, I will NOT waste my time replying
to future posts from you, because I am very busy and prefer to post my own
brilliant insights as well as to honor actual criminals, by posting new thread
TC News, along with my commentaries.
>> Thay are so MORALLY
>> SUPERIOR to humans like you, and to your entire societal and cultural
>> structure, that despite the lack of formal education that many of them
>suffewr
>> from, they still realize that they have an absolute right to seek and claim
>> vengeance against their creators, and they MAINTAIN moral superiority
>> throughout, due to your diseased society refusing to treat them as being
>> VICTIMIZED CREATIONS.
> I'm afraid that you are a victim of a modern education (postmodernism
>is exuding from your every sentence), which explains your completely
>warped view of life.
No, I am a victim of your society.
>You're still responsible, mind you, for the ideas
>you hold, since you have a choice.
I am an amoral hater of the entire human race, and it fills me with PRIDE to
publically state this fact.
>> > To do otherwise is to
>> >put your own life and the lives of those you love in >jeopardy.
>> I love only myself. And I'm perfectly willing to put my life in jeopardy,
>in
>> defense of the TRUTH and of the True Reality right of enraged societal
>victims
>> to seek and claim violent vengeance.
> You don't love yourself.
Yes I do.
>Nobody who presents a so recklessly anti-life
>view has any love for anything in this world.
Your opinion is meaningless to me.
> You seem to project only
>hatred.
Love of self, hatred of all other living things.
> Indeed, by your view you shouldn't care what anyone does
>because it's all been determined.
I care about continuing to love myself, and continuing to be true to my
reality in all of the life choices I make.
>> > However, on the principle of justice I >believe in an eye for an
>eye.
>> How stupid. How hypocritical. To say that you believe in an "eye for an
>eye",
>> while at the same time REJECTING the UNDENIABLE fact that all babies are
>born
>> innocent and non homicidal, and only BECOME homicidal due to YOUR society
>> malevolently causing them to experience horrific trauma, abuse,
>mistreatment,
>> and injustice.
> I never denied that babies are born innocent. Men are born tabula
>rasa, and over time gain ideas and make choices.
They have the right to kill. Period. To commit "illegal" murder, for purposes
of avenging the injustices that your malevolent society subjected them to.
> If someone is so young
>and immature that you can't hold them responsible (because there context
>of knowledge is so small), then that's a different case. If a baby
>pushes the lever of a tractor and runs over a kills several people the
>baby isn't morally culpable for any crime at all, since it didn't have
>the knowledge to know what it was doing. I allow for such cases when
>the facts warrant.
I don't repeat myself, and I don't care what you "allow". You have been given
all the facts regarding the issue of murder, by me. You are now on your own,
free to reject the facts. I will NOT waste additional time repeating myself to
you.
Joe1orbit
>
> [a bunch of clear, unadulterated garbage snipped]
>
> I suppose there is nothing I can say but read Joel's postings if you
>want to see self-refutation.
Hello John,
Thanks for the advice. I would urge all humans to read the 10,000 posts I
have made over the past 27 months. Ya never know, a few of you might even see
the light and recognize that I have given you WISDOM and truth beyond your
wildest dreams.
> I can only hope for his sake that he is
>just joking around.
Hope for whatever you wish, Inferior One. I am 100% honest, sincere, and
serious, in every post I have made to this NG, for the past 27 months.
Take care, JOE
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John Alway
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I suppose there is nothing I can say but read Joel's postings if you
want to see self-refutation. I can only hope for his sake that he is
just joking around.
...John
kcary...@gmail.com
deadrat
> It's been a long time since this was posted so I'm not sure if this will ever et to you.
> But I am the 3 year old daughter of Mary Risinger
> an I would like to tell you that as Daniel Corwins victim an watching him murder my mother in cold blood that
> he absolutely deserved to die.
> He made a choice to commit all of the rapes an murdera. You will never convince me that he didn't know what he was doing.
> No one should apologize to him for anything!
> Why should we pay taxes to let him live .
the incompetent state of Texas, from having the power to kill its citizens.
> The only person I would ever have any condolence for would be his mother because as a mother now
> I will always love my children with all my heart no matter what .
> But he himself didn't even get All he truly deserved . Left this world without feeling any pain .
> While all his victims suffered horribly. My mother was the most amazing women with a very good future,
> a daughter that was her life, a hard worker with a good job and a home. And now I have 3 children that
> will never know or for that matter I didn't get t to know her .
vengeance, it's still a bad idea to let Texas kill its citizens, no
matter how much you think it might help you.
Did it?
randy...@gmail.com
> It's been a long time since this was posted so I'm not sure if this will ever et to you. But I am the 3 year old daughter of Mary Risinger an I would like to tell you that as Daniel Corwins victim an watching him murder my mother in cold blood that he absolutely deserved to die. He made a choice to commit all of the rapes an murdera. You will never convince me that he didn't know what he was doing. No one should apologize to him for anything! Why should we pay taxes to let him live . The only person I would ever have any condolence for would be his mother because as a mother now I will always love my children with all my heart no matter what . But he himself didn't even get All he truly deserved . Left this world without feeling any pain . While all his victims suffered horribly. My mother was the most amazing women with a very good future, a daughter that was her life, a hard worker with a good job and a home. And now I have 3 children that will never know or for that matter I didn't get t to know her .
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Greg Carr
Greg Carr
> I'm sorry that Temple and his family failed Danny Corwin. But sometimes you hvae to pay the piper. I am a lot more sorry for Brenda and the victim shaming she endured.