Yet another tire question
Glen Smith
The Goodyear Wrangler RT/s tires that came with the truck were used for only
2 summers but are already worn out with an estimated 25,000 kms (about
15,000 miles). I tried last August to get the Ford dealer or Goodyear to do
something but to no avail. There' no good in Goodyear as far as I'm
concerned.
I've been running Motomaster Nordic Wintertrac tires (actually BFG Winter
Slaloms) for the last 2 winters with only marginal wear. With winters that
last 6 months here in eastern Canada, both makes of tires have roughly the
same mileage on them but the snow tires are still even and smooth.
Since the noise of the Wranglers is driving me nuts (not to mention the
safety concerns) I'm forced to buy new tires.
I'd love to buy Michelins or Revos but the cost is out of the question right
now.
I've looked at Some Wild Country SUV tires that are sold under the Multimile
tire name as well as a couple of Motomaster Roughrider models. My primary
needs are a smooth quiet ride are good wear with enough bite to get me over
soft ground and a bit of mud. Performance in snow is not a problem with the
dedicated snows.
Finally my questions. Where or by whom are the Multimile tires made? Are
they any good? They have a thread wear guarantee on the P rated sizes. Can I
get away with P rated as opposed to LT tires since I really don't carry
heavy loads?
Can someone tell me who makes the Motomaster Roughrider tires?
I've done a fair bit of digging but have drawn blanks on these.
Thanks,
Glen Smith
Nova Scotia
R. Asby Dragon
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> I have an 02 Ranger 4x4xlt with 245/75R16 tires.
snipped what we both know you wrote..
> Glen Smith
> Nova Scotia
I'm a Yank and I'm about as far away as possible in North America
(Seattle WA)..
I don't know the brands you speak of; but that's not unusual <g>
My ride is a '88 Bronco II 4x4 ; running 15" rims but not stock.
They are Mopar 8" wide "copcar" rims from the old Fury/Diplomats.
I've got 5 years and 45K miles on a set of Dunlop Rover Touring LT's
in 245/70 -15 "P" rating; and I'm just hitting 40% wear.
These are a "all weather" type; but they have got me thru the rare
but massive snow dumps we get here; I've only had to "put on the
irons" twice . I piss off the snomobilers who run the "right of
way" for the public power utility I work for... (I'm legal driving
there- they ain't) .
Excellent on ice and heavy rain as well.
I'm a leadfoot; born and raised in Montana "before 55"; those
Dunlops are also S rated and I tested that sustained 100 MPH last
summer on "old familiar roads" (and yes; you CAN get a 2.9 Bronco II
up to about 110 MPH if you have the right road and skills ) 110 MPH
means the speedo needle is hittiting the trip odometer reset shaft.
........
Spdloader
Stay with the LT.
Goodyear buys the cheapest carbon black available for their tires. Your
mileage is typical.
Wild Country is a very good tire, so is a Cooper. I think the Multi-mile is
a Dayton, which is owned by Cooper, I'm not positive on that, but I know
they last a good while.
Keep them balanced and rotated, every other oil change, they'll last you
like you want them to.
Good luck,
Spdloader
"Glen Smith" <SPAMg...@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
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Hawk
vehicle. My 2000 F150 XLT 4x4 had the same size tires. They were Noisy,
horrible winter traction, poor wet traction, just plain crap. I did however
get good wear out of them, I replaced them at 80,000 KM and went with
Motomaster Roughrider AT's, I got the in LT 265/75/16. The 265's were
actually 15 bucks cheaper per tire than the 245's. I got them onsale for
$105.00/tire just ofter christmas, Regular $154.00/tire. (I got the guy
behind the counter to look into the system and tell me when they were coming
on sale the cheapest and drove the goodyears until I got a wicked deal.)
They have excellent winter traction, good eet traction, and seem ok in mud.
They are definately not the most aggressive tire out there, but they are
VERY quiet on the road compared to the Goodyears. Dad has been using them
on his toyota for a long while, and usually gets 70-80,000 KM out of them.
(usually ends up replacing them earlier than needed because he doesn't use
snow tires).
L8R,
Hawk
"Glen Smith" <SPAMg...@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
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mark schofield
>
> The Goodyear Wrangler RT/s tires that came with the truck were used for
only
> 2 summers but are already worn out with an estimated 25,000 kms (about
> 15,000 miles). I tried last August to get the Ford dealer or Goodyear to
do
> something but to no avail. There' no good in Goodyear as far as I'm
> concerned
40000 miles. the last Ranger 1997 4wd 4liter ext cab had firestones. I got
55000 miles on them
.
>
> I've been running Motomaster Nordic Wintertrac tires (actually BFG Winter
> Slaloms) for the last 2 winters with only marginal wear. With winters that
> last 6 months here in eastern Canada, both makes of tires have roughly the
> same mileage on them but the snow tires are still even and smooth.
>
> Since the noise of the Wranglers is driving me nuts (not to mention the
> safety concerns) I'm forced to buy new tires.
Brought it to the dealer under warranty. he replaced the front wheel
bearings and the noise is still there. he said it might be tires. most
noticeable between 30=40 mph, after driving for 3-4 miles warming up. isthis
similar to your problem?
>
> I'd love to buy Michelins or Revos but the cost is out of the question
right
> now.
>
> I've looked at Some Wild Country SUV tires that are sold under the
Multimile
> tire name as well as a couple of Motomaster Roughrider models. My primary
> needs are a smooth quiet ride are good wear with enough bite to get me
over
> soft ground and a bit of mud. Performance in snow is not a problem with
the
> dedicated snows.
>
> Finally my questions. Where or by whom are the Multimile tires made? Are
> they any good? They have a thread wear guarantee on the P rated sizes. Can
I
> get away with P rated as opposed to LT tires since I really don't carry
> heavy loads?
>
> Can someone tell me who makes the Motomaster Roughrider tires?
>
> I've done a fair bit of digging but have drawn blanks on these.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen Smith
> Nova Scotia
>
>
D or E load range. Please keep us posted on what you do. TIA
Mark Schofield
CT
RVer
pressure off-road operation)?
I'm trying to "build" my truck, and am having a heck of a time finding tires
that the manufacturer is willing to stand behind for low-pressure operation.
Dusty
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Glen Smith
during one of the regular servicings. It almost seemed that the abnormal
wear occurred on the rear but everyone tells me that's not possible.
I had the snow tires on for nearly 6 months and the only noise was from the
studs and the only wear was minimal and even. I figure it there was a
problem with the truck, the snows would have worn too. By the way, the
dealer first accused me of not rotating the tires even though it has never
missed a scheduled service. Then told me it was the alignment until it was
checked by two shops and found to be dead on.
The noise is most noticeable between 50 and 60 KPH which equates to your
30-40 MPH. Have a close look at the edges of the tires to see if they are
scalloped and wavy. Mine are.
Glen
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mark schofield
although the edged aren't scalloped, they begin to scallop after 4-5k miles.
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gary
the sidewall where it had failed and luckily not blown out as it was on
the passenger front side. They were scalloped and cupped. Had a noise
like a wheel bearing being flat on one side for some time now.
Agree as to the poor quality of the "good"years.
Gary
Stephen
light trucks? I am at the point of replacing the 255 70 16' Wranglers
on my F150. It's hard for me to make a judgement on these tires since I
haven't had any other tires on the truck and I haven't had the truck
that long.
It really seems like it doesn't matter that much which tire I buy
pricewise since most work out to be CDN$700-800 for the set. Most of my
driving is on paved roads and some logging roads. I am on the wet west
coast so rain performance is pretty important.
Mellowed
Snow. But, I think they are more expensive than your Michelins. The
USFS uses this tire. Others like the Bridgestone Revo's. I'll be
putting them on my F350 next month. They are an excellent tire, less
expensive than the Goodrich, and ride softer, but not as rugged for
offroad.
"Stephen" <steely...@coldmail.com> wrote in message
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: Any opinions on the Michelin LXR or is it (LXT?) tires Costco sells
:
Joe Sumbody
worst tires out there for wet traction. last winter i changed over to
bridgestone dulers at revo's and they are by far the best truck tire i have
ever owned. they have excellent wet and dry trackion, since chenging to
these tire i have never needed to go 4x4 on the highway to maintain
trackion. i got mine at the tire rack for a very reasonable price, which was
much less than the goodyears cost.
Happy Trucking
Glen Smith
heard anything but good things about the Michelin LTX. Unfortunately,
they're about $180+ Cdn around here and a bit out of my range I think. One
thing I hope to determine is whether I should pay big up front and hopefully
get long life and good performance or go cheaper and still get a good,
albeit shorter life tire. I can't afford to buy 4 tires that I have to
replace again in a year or so, no matter how cheap they are.
I find the reviews on www.tirerack.com very informative. After I spent an
hour reading about the Wrangler RT/S, I was, quite frankly, scared to drive
on them. Unfortunately, they carry only big name brand tires like Badyear,
Dunlop, Bridgestone etc so info on private brands is hard to find.
I got 4 studded Motomaster Nordic Wintertracs 18 months ago for $500 out the
door. These are the BFG Winter Slaloms and I hope to find a summer tire as
good for around the same price.
The Bridgestone Revos have also gotten great reviews but I haven't called
around to check the going rate.
Glen in Nova Scotia where there's still snow in the ditches.
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RJeramy
tread, can't wait to try 'em in the snow.
I've heard the 4X4 guys don't even bother using 4x in Michigan snow anymore.
Reviews and photos here:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+A%2FT+Revo
Stephen
feedback on the Wranglers. They are one of the most common tires on the
F150/250 and a bunch of other trucks but I guess it is not because
they are great tires.
The Michelings are the same price out here at Costco, it would be about
$825 out the door on a set. I haven't heard anything bad about them
yet, other than they are a little more pricey than some of the other
tires. I am replacing the 255 70 16's and maybe going a little bigger
so it isn't going to be cheap regardless of what I buy.
As far as biting the bullet up front for the better tires, my feeling is
that I would spend more on the tires if it means that I will get good
performance and won't have to worry about them for a few years. I don't
want to take a chance of some tires that are cheaper today and have to
replace them sooner and hate them the whole time I have them.
I think of it in terms of how much am I saving over the life of the tire
and over the number of years I will have them or even over the next few
years. The amount I drive, the tires will last at least 5+ years. If I
bought the cheapest tire I cold find, I would save less than $300 or
$60/year or $5/ month over a premium grade tire. Considering that is
about 1% of the operating cost of the vehicle, it makes little sense in
the long, for me to try to economise in this way.
Thanks for the opinion on the tires.
Stephen
sparky
haven't had any problems got about 40,000 miles on them
mostly city and highway driving in Oklahoma (not the best roads)
I went from the E load range to C load range helped the ride a lot can't
carry as much weigth but I love the softer ride
My 2 cents Jeff
Karl Shoemaker
POV (F250)and they are cupped, and noisy on the highway so just as soon
as I get that one ball joint replaced (with alignment, of course) I'll
get my new tires. Agreed on Badyears tires-been using them for the work
truck (suburban) and they are generally crap, but we are stuck on the
State contract so that's that. At least I found out what not to buy.
They gennerall are noisey and cupp bad, even with rotation on GM and
Ford trucks.
As for my own F250, I'm shopping for ones around the LT 235/85R16 in D
or E rating.
So far I've bided on the following:
From Costco:
BF Goodrich $570
Michelin X $678
Bridgestone AT Revo $657
Dunlop Rover AT $500
Trail Mark Rd AP $440
These prices are U.S. not including tax. Do they sound ok ?
The last two, as I understand it, are owned by "badyear" but are not
related otherwise. I'm still wondering which to get. Mileage is not
import, but firm is. I don't wanna be turning a corner on large
marshmellows (LOL) as another person described. I call 'em sponges. Hate
mushy tires.
Karl
Stephen
which is a pity since they are presently on sale at Can Tire.
How do the Michelin LTX's compare to the Wranglers on gravel or snow? I
don't want to go for a really noisy luggy tire but I do some driving on
forestry roads and some slow travel on small dirt roads. The LTX's are
about CAN$825 out the door at Costco.