73 Ford Truck with 460. Need headers anybody make them?
Dave Dodson
460. One head has oval ports the other has square (oval on the CJ I think)
ones. You need to verify this first. I also wasnt aware that Ford made a
460CJ. If you really have CJ heads they probably came off of a 429CJ. I
don't have the books readily at hand but I am sure that there is at least
one reader out there who can set you straight...
Dave D
russell wizinsky <wizi...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> I've got a 73 ford f100 with a 460. I can't seem to find anybody that
sells
> headers for it except for Hooker pro comp series. I really don't want to
> spend $300 on a set if I can. Everyone sells them for the 74-79. Is it
> just an oversite that maybe the 460 was a midyear intro into this line and
> there is no difference between 73 and 74? Any help would be appriciated.
> Btw It's got a set of Alum Cobra Jet heads and an TCI Trans with power
> breaks and stearing. Thanks.
>
> Russ
>
>
russell wizinsky
how4u
ford 2wd truck . i think i only spent 134.99. i found them in summit or jegs
. good luck
russell wizinsky wrote in message <7rhvb8$6s6$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>...
Butch Smith
wrote:
>As I recall, the CJ heads have different shaped exhaust ports than the std
>460. One head has oval ports the other has square (oval on the CJ I think)
>ones.
The ports are the same shape but the CJ ports are much larger. The
bolt patterns are the same however.
>You need to verify this first. I also wasnt aware that Ford made a
>460CJ.
They didn't, which would lead me to assume he has the Motorsport
heads.
>If you really have CJ heads they probably came off of a 429CJ.
Aluminum CJ heads are available from Ford Motorsports and they
will fit a 429 or 460.
>> I've got a 73 ford f100 with a 460. I can't seem to find anybody that
>sells
>> headers for it except for Hooker pro comp series. I really don't want to
>> spend $300 on a set if I can. Everyone sells them for the 74-79. Is it
>> just an oversite that maybe the 460 was a midyear intro into this line and
>> there is no difference between 73 and 74? Any help would be appriciated.
>> Btw It's got a set of Alum Cobra Jet heads and an TCI Trans with power
>> breaks and stearing. Thanks.
Chances are you will have to spend the cash on the Hookers or else
go with a set from L&L. The L&L headers are fenderwell and are very
nice but they aren't cheap either. There is a chance the 74-79 headers
will fit but unless the documentation claims this you may be taking a
chance. The best thing to do is find a 74-79 F100 and compare it to
yours. I'm fairly sure they never put the 460 into a half ton truck
but I might be wrong here. I know for a fact they didn't put the 460
in the 4x4 till the mid 80s.One thing to watch if you do find a set is
the exaust port size. If the header isn't made for the CJ heads you
will have a mismatch and will lose power at least, and perhaps have a
leak if the flanges don't cover enough of the port.
Good luck,
Butch Smith
----
"Please stop calling me an asshole, or I will be forced to be involved in a fracas with you."
----afriKan
russell wizinsky
why I have them. They are a redisign of the older CJ heads with a better
flow. Supposidly most headers will fit even though they are almost an 1/8"
bigger lenght and width of the port. They also have hardened seats and a
3angle valve job. The 429/460 head is for either. The only difference in
the 429 and 460 is basiclly the crank, rods and pistons. Ford does make a
460 head but it's a pro stock head and you need a Motorsport block that's
punched out to 4.500 bore or you need to notch the cylinder walls. And the
killer is you need to use a Jesel type vavle train, which at the cheapest
runs $1500 for rockers.
Butch Smith <kas...@NOSPAMepix.net> wrote in message
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Butch Smith
<wizi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Yeah, they are the motorsport ones. In fact I make them at Roush. That's
>why I have them. They are a redisign of the older CJ heads with a better
>flow. Supposidly most headers will fit even though they are almost an 1/8"
>bigger lenght and width of the port. They also have hardened seats and a
>3angle valve job. The 429/460 head is for either. The only difference in
>the 429 and 460 is basiclly the crank, rods and pistons. Ford does make a
>460 head but it's a pro stock head and you need a Motorsport block that's
>punched out to 4.500 bore or you need to notch the cylinder walls. And the
>killer is you need to use a Jesel type vavle train, which at the cheapest
>runs $1500 for rockers.
I know I run these heads (C460) on my 4x4 truck puller... the bore is
4.600" and the rockers were $1400 from Crane. T&D and WW Engineering
make rockers for around $1300 now. You are correct any 429/460 header
will 'bolt up' however I would check to make sure there isn't a very
bad mismatch. A set of headers designed for the standard 429/460
passenger car port could be smaller than the CJ port opening by as
much as 1/4". This would create a substantial power loss if not
corrected. The 460 and the 429 do share the same rods by the way,
unless you get into exotic stuff like the old Boss 429 or Nascar
parts. The crank and pistons are the only difference.