What makes it a 1-ton?
RLLinder
easily haul 4000lbs in the bed, but it's still considered a 3/4 ton. In
Oklahoma, all pickups are not registered according to gross weight as they
are in most states, so it would make no difference to the price of
registration if it was a F-150 or F-350, except for the selling price, which
is considered on a scale that goes down each year registered... It's kind of
weird.
But there is no such thing as a F-250SD, Regular Cab, Short Bed. They
didn't and don't make 'em. All short bed 3/4's are long cabs of some kind.
Guess they figure "real" work trucks wouldn't want the tiny bed. I would
agree.
Rich
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> Jerry wins the prize for correct answer. Calling a truck a 3/4 ton used
to
> mean something, but not anymore. For example, take the 1999 and up Ford
> F250 Super Duty truck. It's considered a 3/4 ton truck, but it's actual
> weight and payload can vary dramatically depending on configuration. The
> one number that stays the same is a 8800 lb GVWR (for non CA trucks). The
> GVWR is the max weight that the truck and payload can weigh. So the fully
> loaded Lariat 4x4 crew cab, long bed, diesel engine truck weighs 7500 lbs.
> This only leaves 1300 lbs payload capacity (which is roughly 3/4 ton).
But
> if the F250 is a regular cab, short bed, 4x2, V8 engine, XL trim with no
> options, it weighs only 6200 lbs. It can haul 2600 lbs (which is over one
> ton). My truck is a F350 dually and has a payload of 2 tons, yet it's
only
> considered a one ton truck!
>
>
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> "Jerry" <gnie...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > Its a rating given by the manufactures to give the consumer a ballpark
> idea
> > of the truck. At one time they were that capacity but no more, the F250
> 3/4
> > is good for about 1 1/2 tons and still be legal under certain
> circumstances.
> > (read the real fine print).
> > "Maximum Frog" <maxim...@cvip.net> wrote in message
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> > > I'm looking to feed my curiosity.
> > >
> > > What, exactly, makes the designation of 1/2, 3/4 and 1 ton vehicles?
> > > Someone once told me it's how much it can haul. I don't think so. I
> know
> > > that with my F-100 I was able to haul more than a ton with it.
> > >
> > > Someone then told me it's the weight of the chassis, engine and
> > > transmission. Could this be true? All of that would weigh
considerably
> > > different amounts depending on the engine and transmission combo.
> > >
> > > Anyone know??
> > >
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> > > Found at ICQ - 6227244
> > > Seen in - an amazingly RED bronco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Harald
confirmed that at www.ford.com . Doesn't matter for the point I was trying
to make, which was that depending on configuration you end up with vastly
different legal payload capacities within the F250 line of trucks.
I agree that your truck can easily haul 4000 lbs in the bed, but not without
exceeding Ford's GVWR. I would guess your truck weighs at least 6000 lbs
with full tank and driver, which only leaves you with 2800 lbs capacity.
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Digital Web Ideas
is more.
rl
really dreaming. Check the ratings on your little tires, if nothing else.
That is max loading the base F-250SD, 8,800 GVWR.
The factory optional springs and optional 265-75/16 E rated tires give my
F-250SD essentially the same (in-bed) weight bearing capacity as the SRW
F-350. (They then have the same @ ground axle and tire rating.) The
standard brakes are identical.
The driver (me, about 200 lbs) and 38 gl of gas (about 270 lbs) is less than
500 pounds total.
The standard (rated) payload for the '99 F-250SD, 2WD, Regular Cab is 3,840
lbs.
The same configuration F-350, SRW is 4,930 lbs.
That is right out of the '99 Super Duty Brochure.
I haven't weighed my truck empty lately, but 6000 lbs empty weight seems a
tad high. I would estimate it more like 5500 or so.
Compare these Ford numbers for a F-250SD, 137' wb, Reg Cab; Listed Max
GVWR 8800. Listed Max Payload 3840. That computes to 4960 lbs. for the
empty weight. I'll bet my truck isn't much more than 500 lbs. more than
that today. The factory alloy wheels I have are probably a few pounds
lighter than the standard stamped steel wheels (although that weight would
only be an issue for the tires and perhaps the brakes, and the weight of the
engine/trans is up front, in any case, so it isn't a factor for rear
tire/wheel/axle/spring overload, which is the critical limitation for this
loading scenario.
In actual service the truck handles more than 4500 lbs. in the bed easily
and safely. I have no concern if the GVWR is slightly exceeded for the
short hauls I need to make, as long as load is balanced adequately, the tire
weight capacities are not exceeded and the brakes are up to the task, which
they are.
Rich
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> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:14:54 -0800, "Harald" <Har...@IHATESPAMFoxinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I agree that your truck can easily haul 4000 lbs in the bed, but not without
> >exceeding Ford's GVWR. I would guess your truck weighs at least 6000 lbs
> >with full tank and driver, which only leaves you with 2800 lbs capacity.
>
> rating of 6250 lbs and weighs close to 5,500 with me on board.
>
> No problem at all carrying 50 70# bales of hay in the back, almost sits level
> with 30 PSI in the rear air bags.
>
> Does it ride like a rock on umpaved roads when it's empty!
> A real 'nad-buster.
> I always run with 500# of sand bags in the back when there's no real load.
>
> Man, I like that truck, all 10 MPG of it.
>
> Hodad in Colorado
>
>
I have a 1979 F350 4x4 (1 ton). It rides like a lumber truck. But I like
it. I like riding it, empty or full!
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rl
Rich
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rl
That's what (some of) these trucks are actually bought for. You can an
even better "effective" payload with a regular cab because the load would be
quite a bit less directly over the back axle. The short cam allows some of
the load to be taken on the front axle. Not everyone uses a Super Duty just
for trailer towing.
Rich
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> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:14:54 -0800, "Harald"
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> wrote:
>
> >I agree that your truck can easily haul 4000 lbs in the bed, but not
without
> >exceeding Ford's GVWR. I would guess your truck weighs at least 6000 lbs
> >with full tank and driver, which only leaves you with 2800 lbs capacity.
>
rl
the thing level with a load. I even found that keeping some air in without
a load "unloaded" the leaf springs a bit and actually improved the ride,
although the increased ride height didn't do much for handling.
Rich The aux leaf springs don't even touch till the regular rears droop a
little. It works ok, just like a big truck. I think it's basically the
equivalent of a 1 standard ton. That would have cost the same new.
Rich
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> On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:14:54 -0800, "Harald"
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> wrote:
>
> >I agree that your truck can easily haul 4000 lbs in the bed, but not
without
> >exceeding Ford's GVWR. I would guess your truck weighs at least 6000 lbs
> >with full tank and driver, which only leaves you with 2800 lbs capacity.
>
Harald
I think you'll be shocked if you take your truck across some scales and see
what it really weighs. Truck and RV manufacturers are notorious for
understating weights. They are doing a serious disservice to people by
pushing their overstated payload numbers that are not seen in real life.
Next time you come across a weigh station that's closed, pull in and see if
they left the scale on. Here in Washington state they leave them on always.
Just get out and peek in the window of the building to see your weight.
I'm speaking from my experience with Super Duty weight numbers. I had a
early 99 F350 SRW SC LWB 4x4 XLT auto trani, fully loaded truck that weighed
6800 lbs with full fuel and my 175 lbs in it. Ford's numbers are way lower.
I now have a 2000 F350 CC DRW 4x4 LWB Lariat with auto trani and it weighs
7300 lbs with full fuel and me in it. This also include Torklift camper tie
downs, a Superhitch, Rhino bedliner, and some small tools behind the seat.
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