After two hours of parking, the radio worked fine.
Anyone else had this problem?
Thanks for any help.
"Mark Schroeder" <aschr...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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Mine has been replaced 2 times so far. It's a 2003 - not the Bose
system. The first time, several of the buttons ceased to operate -
the one that sets the volume EQ and the other EQ button as well as the
scan type and maybe one or two others. The second time, it would just
start ejecting CDs with a CHECK CD message. I've had the current one
in for about 4 months or so with no problems. The service writer at
the dealer that's been doing the warranty work swears I'm the only one
that's ever had problems. I tend not to believe him on that one, but
he's quickly taken care of any/every problem I've had so far with the
exception of some persistent rattles.
"Goff/Williams" <cny1694...@centurytel.net> wrote in message
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> Mine has been replaced 2 times so far. It's a 2003 - not the Bose
> system. The first time, several of the buttons ceased to operate -
> the one that sets the volume EQ and the other EQ button as well as the
> scan type and maybe one or two others. The second time, it would just
> start ejecting CDs with a CHECK CD message. I've had the current one
> in for about 4 months or so with no problems.
That sounds about like typical Delco Electronics (Okay, Delphi, if you
prefer) quality. Their radios are made as cheaply as they can be. If you
don't believe me, take one apart.
I didn't even bother keeping mine as it played CDs when I wanted cassettes,
ran very hot inside and out and seemed to have way too much bass output in
the sound. It came right out and got replaced with something better.
Although--if anyone has the AM/FM only radio as found in a 2003 S-10, and
wants to get rid of it, I am listening. I'd just like to see one of those in
person. I've never even seen one of those (or the six disc changer model)
installed in any GM vehicle.
William The Guesser
> No, I do not have the Bose system. I have the LS with the standard cd and
> radio combo.
It sounds as though your radio went into a "protection" mode where the
amplifier is totally shut down, usually because it got too hot or has
experienced a failure that would kill the speakers, like passing DC through
the speaker wiring.
If your truck has not done it since, I would say that the radio's
microcontroller simply got confused and shut down the amplifier for no good
reason.
William
GB
> What radio did you get to replace the orginal? I what a radio that fits
> the dash (full height) , without plastic fillers around the edges. Any
> suggestions.
I used a Pioneer KEH-1900, because I really didn't care if it filled the
dash. I ordered a wiring harness adapter and mounting kit from Crutchfield
and apart from some filing I had to do on the radio, it looks great and
sounds wonderful.
I have heard that there are such radios available to fill the "full height"
(or double DIN??) space in some vehicles, and I've even seen some pictures,
but I have no idea which ones are the best. I just used a radio I'd gotten
cheap and new in box a few years ago for another project.
If you'd like, you can check out some pictures of my install. It doesn't
look bad at all.
http://greyghost.dyndns.org/2003s10/radio.htm
William The Guesser
>Hi!
>
>> Mine has been replaced 2 times so far. It's a 2003 - not the Bose
>> system. The first time, several of the buttons ceased to operate -
>> the one that sets the volume EQ and the other EQ button as well as the
>> scan type and maybe one or two others. The second time, it would just
>> start ejecting CDs with a CHECK CD message. I've had the current one
>> in for about 4 months or so with no problems.
>
>That sounds about like typical Delco Electronics (Okay, Delphi, if you
>prefer) quality. Their radios are made as cheaply as they can be. If you
>don't believe me, take one apart.
I wouldn't know what to look for, but I believe you anyway. I've
heard this more than once from more than one mechanic.
>I didn't even bother keeping mine as it played CDs when I wanted cassettes,
>ran very hot inside and out and seemed to have way too much bass output in
>the sound. It came right out and got replaced with something better.
I'm reasonably happy with the sound, but it does seem to run somewhat
hot. I've wondered if this was the source of the problems I've had.
> I wouldn't know what to look for, but I believe you anyway. I've
> heard this more than once from more than one mechanic.
Some things you can see from the outside when the unit is out. Like the fact
that there not any screws on a 2003 radio to keep it together. It just pops
together.
Other stuff doesn't even require pulling the unit out--I would have left my
CD player in had it played CD-RW discs, but it did not. Most any CD player
made in recent times will play a CD-RW.
> I'm reasonably happy with the sound, but it does seem to run somewhat
> hot. I've wondered if this was the source of the problems I've had.
Heat kills electronics. I'd say your unit quit reading discs because the
laser pickup got dirty or died...more likely that it got dirty. If memory
serves it has near zero protection from anything. Buttons not working sounds
like bad switches or a bad solder joint/circuit trace. Heating boards or
their parts excessively can break parts of them...and that's what may have
happened in your case. There isn't a lot of area for air to flow through
(and where would it come from inside the dash area?) and the face of the
radio gets very hot.
William The Guesser
>Hi!
>
>> I wouldn't know what to look for, but I believe you anyway. I've
>> heard this more than once from more than one mechanic.
>
>Some things you can see from the outside when the unit is out. Like the fact
>that there not any screws on a 2003 radio to keep it together. It just pops
>together.
Do any of the aftermarket stereos handle things like the door chimes,
etc. that run through the OEM stereo?
>Other stuff doesn't even require pulling the unit out--I would have left my
>CD player in had it played CD-RW discs, but it did not. Most any CD player
>made in recent times will play a CD-RW.
Hmmm. Mine plays CD-Rs fine. I don't used RWs, so I can't comment on
that.
>> I'm reasonably happy with the sound, but it does seem to run somewhat
>> hot. I've wondered if this was the source of the problems I've had.
>
>Heat kills electronics. I'd say your unit quit reading discs because the
>laser pickup got dirty or died...more likely that it got dirty. If memory
>serves it has near zero protection from anything. Buttons not working sounds
>like bad switches or a bad solder joint/circuit trace. Heating boards or
>their parts excessively can break parts of them...and that's what may have
>happened in your case. There isn't a lot of area for air to flow through
>(and where would it come from inside the dash area?) and the face of the
>radio gets very hot.
How would an aftermarket unit flow air better?
> Do any of the aftermarket stereos handle things like the door chimes,
> etc. that run through the OEM stereo?
Not that I'm aware of. Sometimes you have to relocate the original radio,
which may put a minor snag in things. None of that stuff was run thru the
factory radio on my truck...so I could quickly and easily say "Good-Bye!" to
it.
Best way to know is to call a place like Crutchfield and ask. They can tell
you exactly what will have to be done.
> Hmmm. Mine plays CD-Rs fine. I don't used RWs, so I can't comment on
> that.
CD-Rs will play in just about anything. CD-RW discs are significantly less
reflective and therefore may not play in older or cheaper equipment. (It is
rather funny to note, however, that I have a Philips/LMS 1X CD-ROM drive
that will happily play CD-RW discs all day long...)
> How would an aftermarket unit flow air better?
I'm not so sure that it would. If it can at all, the fact that it may be
smaller than the factory unit will create more space for air around the
unit, but won't change much about the flow in all likelihood. Generally
speaking aftermarket units have cooler running illumination and better
quality components that don't emit as much heat as those in your factory
radio do.
William The Guesser
>Best way to know is to call a place like Crutchfield and ask. They can tell
>you exactly what will have to be done.
>
I've used them before. Thanks.