My th400 pan gasket leaks, how do I stop it?
-the HoSt-
I always torque to 8-10 foot pounds.
From the looks of it, it leaks down the bolts somehow. I always see the oil
welling up on a couple of bolts.
I have tried rubber, cork, and fiber composite gaskets. I never use rtv or
any sealant as it is not recommended, but I am about ready to put some on
out of desperation, just have to be careful not to let it squeeze out to the
inside of the pan.
It is not a huge leak, but it frustrates the hell out of me that I cannot
seem to stop a simple leak, and I am tired of seeing that oil on my garage
floor. And it is only ten bucks for a new gasket so every couple of weeks
I'll try again, and I'll probably be trying again this weekend too.
If anyone has experience with this give me a clue.
H.
aarcuda69062
"-the HoSt-" <Ho...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have tried to replace this gasket 4 times now. I have a brand new pan, and
> I always torque to 8-10 foot pounds.
Too much torque. You're smashing the gasket.
60-65 inch pounds is more like it.
If you're using a 3/8 drive torque wrench, you don't have the
accuracy needed at the lower range of the scale, get an inch
pound torque wrench.
-the HoSt-
"aarcuda69062" <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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-the HoSt-
"aarcuda69062" <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I'll try that next time.
thanks.
Marsh Monster
> In article <cf9f6$4752f4b3$40970a51$20...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
>
> > I have tried to replace this gasket 4 times now. I have a brand new pan, and
> > I always torque to 8-10 foot pounds.
>
> Too much torque. You're smashing the gasket.
> 60-65 inch pounds is more like it.
> If you're using a 3/8 drive torque wrench, you don't have the
> accuracy needed at the lower range of the scale, get an inch
> pound torque wrench.
======
======
I disagree...........
He's either got a Chrome pan.........
or the bolt holes are PUCKERED...(i doubt that one)......
or the leak IS NOT a pan gasket leak.
there ......i said it.......now i feel better.
:)
~:~
MarshMonster
~takes a sip of his crownroyal..........mmmmmm...good stuff~
~:~
TOBMA
aarcuda69062
<37176e0c-09ca-4527...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com
>,
Marsh Monster <MarshMon...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 12:41 pm, aarcuda69062 <nonel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > In article <cf9f6$4752f4b3$40970a51$20...@EVERESTKC.NET>,
> > "-the HoSt-" <H...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have tried to replace this gasket 4 times now. I have a brand new pan,
> > > and
> > > I always torque to 8-10 foot pounds.
> >
> > Too much torque. You're smashing the gasket.
> > 60-65 inch pounds is more like it.
> > If you're using a 3/8 drive torque wrench, you don't have the
> > accuracy needed at the lower range of the scale, get an inch
> > pound torque wrench.
>
> ======
> ======
> I disagree...........
>
> He's either got a Chrome pan.........
> or the bolt holes are PUCKERED...(i doubt that one)......
> or the leak IS NOT a pan gasket leak.
That's not disagreeing, that's other possibilities.
10 ft.lbs. -is- too much
The bottom range (20%) of a 3/8" torque wrench, any torque
wrench is not very accurate
Marsh Monster
>
> - Show quoted text -
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He said it was likely pan bolt torque............
I said it wasn't.
~:~
MarshMonster
~takes a toke......disagrees that it's not disagreeing~
~:~
aarcuda69062
<0faa3f34-3245-4893...@o42g2000hsc.googlegroups.co
m>,
Marsh Monster <MarshMon...@aol.com> wrote:
> He said it was likely pan bolt torque............
Who he? Certainly wasn't the original poster.
> I said it wasn't.
I said it was.
Got it now?
brianorion
worrying about his tea ration being cut back if he didn't punch out
5000 that day.It wasn't done right and there is a flaw.
I would check it carefully with a straight-edge over each hole and
look for any splits.
Look above the leak area for a higher leak (already mentioned in
thread),and if it still leaks with the correct torque which BTW is 12
(TWELVE) Ft. Lbs.according to the GMC shop manual in front of me,then
please re-post.
-the HoSt-
"brianorion" <Brian...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wow, nice to see the passion guys LOL!!!
Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
puckered.
I have a Haynes manual and it says 10, I do have a inch pound wrench and I
get it to 120 inch pounds actually. I have never gone crazy on it and tried
to torque it down to 30 foot pounds.
If I seal it up and fill it up, it does not leak. If I go for a drive, get
the fluid hot, check the fluid level to make sure it is just right then park
it, it still does not appear to leak for quite some time.
But the next morning... %&$*ing leaks.
I figure if it were a leak somewhere else it would be evident soon after
driving and bringing it up to temp then parking it, but it waits about 6 to
8 hours.
Thanks for the info.
H
-the HoSt-
"TOBMA" <To...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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>
http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product?tmplframe=EndecaCategoryView&storeId=10101&Pr=p_Product.CATENTRY_ID%3A2000989&reviewflag=1&productId=2000989&catalogId=10614&langId=-1
> Install a aluminum pan.
>
>
Damn that's an expensive pan.
I see that it comes with washers for the bolts, maybe I need that.
H
lildevil
"aarcuda69062" <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Steve W.
>
> Wow, nice to see the passion guys LOL!!!
>
> Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
> puckered.
> I have a Haynes manual and it says 10, I do have a inch pound wrench and I
> get it to 120 inch pounds actually. I have never gone crazy on it and tried
> to torque it down to 30 foot pounds.
> If I seal it up and fill it up, it does not leak. If I go for a drive, get
> the fluid hot, check the fluid level to make sure it is just right then park
> it, it still does not appear to leak for quite some time.
> But the next morning... %&$*ing leaks.
> I figure if it were a leak somewhere else it would be evident soon after
> driving and bringing it up to temp then parking it, but it waits about 6 to
> 8 hours.
>
> Thanks for the info.
> H
>
Clean the pan and all around the transmission real well. Then clean the
pan and gasket surface real well and install a new gasket with a bit of
high tac on it. Torque it down and then fill it up with fluid. Now take
some baby powder and dust around the gasket and around any seal point
(TV cable, shift shaft, dip stick tube and such). Then take it for a
drive and see where the powder gets damp. That will tell you where the
leak is. Once your done just take it through a car wash and clean it up.
--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!
PeterD
wrote:
>Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
>puckered.
>I have a Haynes manual and it says 10, I do have a inch pound wrench and I
>get it to 120 inch pounds actually. I have never gone crazy on it and tried
>to torque it down to 30 foot pounds.
>If I seal it up and fill it up, it does not leak. If I go for a drive, get
>the fluid hot, check the fluid level to make sure it is just right then park
>it, it still does not appear to leak for quite some time.
>But the next morning... %&$*ing leaks.
>I figure if it were a leak somewhere else it would be evident soon after
>driving and bringing it up to temp then parking it, but it waits about 6 to
>8 hours.
Q: to the bolts that show leakage go through the casting? (Are the
holes openended?)
none2u
"-the HoSt-" <Ho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>The bolts stop on the washers. If this was my pan , Id make sure the flange
>was straight. Id give it a thorough cleaning. Not hillbilly clean. Clean
>clean. Id get red high temp rtv. Coat both sides of the gasket and the pan
>. But more importantly Id RTV the bolts where they seat and part of the
>threads before I screw them in. That way the holes in the gasket actually
>get filled with rtv and set up against the bolts. Get them in , torqued and
>walk away for a day. Then put the fluid back in. After that Id think leak
>elsewhere running down, or live with it.
Old Crow
wrote:
>
T'was me, I'd take a grinding disc and remove that fancy chrome stuff
from the sealing surface of the pan. No amount of sealer will seal a
chrome tranny pan.
Yo! Marshie...pass the shroom juice. :-)
--
Old Crow "Yol Bolson!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Doug Adams
the pan gasket. After I replaced it twice, I found out the dipstick tube
o-ring was seeping and running down appearing like the oil pan gasket was
leaking. Another common place to look on those trannys is the modulator
valve.
All this is especially true if the gasket seems to always leak on the right
front of the pan gasket!
"-the HoSt-" <Ho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Big Al
"Doug Adams" <adam...@wcnet.org> wrote in message
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> My own two cents worth, I once had a TH400 that I swore was leaking
> through the pan gasket. After I replaced it twice, I found out the
> dipstick tube o-ring was seeping and running down appearing like the oil
> pan gasket was leaking. Another common place to look on those trannys is
> the modulator valve.
>
> All this is especially true if the gasket seems to always leak on the
> right front of the pan gasket!
>
Al
Marsh Monster
> m>,
> Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > He said it was likely pan bolt torque............
>
> Who he? Certainly wasn't the original poster.
>
> > I said it wasn't.
>
> I said it was.
> Got it now?
====
====
you're wrong.....i'm rite.....
undertand??
:)
~:~
marsh
~sips his shroomjuice~
~:~
Marsh Monster
=========
=========
BEST ADVICE AWARD!!
but then.......i reeely wasn't after it.......i've got plenty.
:)
~:~
marsh
~takes a toke......goooooooood stuff~
~:~
Marsh Monster
> "brianorion" <Brianori...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
=========
=========
I'll tell YOU how to permanantly......(did i spell that rite cuda?)..
stop that leak........
if you'll post for all to see.........
that I...me alone...all by meself.......ama freek'n REPAIR GAWD.
yep..i will......promise.
anywhoooooooo.........
did i mention......i jest recently.......
left.........
the tranny biz after 18 years in it..??
no...?
oh...ok.
:)
~:~
marsh
~takes a sip of his crownroyal..packs his pipe....~
~:~
Marsh Monster
> "TOBMA" <To...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>
> news:IoqdnW975YP6gM7a...@insightbb.com...
>
>
> > Install a aluminum pan.
>
> Damn that's an expensive pan.
> I see that it comes with washers for the bolts, maybe I need that.
>
> H
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=======
nope..that's not what you need......
you need sealant.
:)
ok......so you didn't post that i was a freek'n Repair Gawd...
i told you anywhoo..
:)
~:~
marsh
~drops another shroom in the boiling pot......mmm.....
goood batch~
~:~
Marsh Monster
==========
On Dec 3, 2:31 pm, "lildevil" <lildevi...@noreply.net> wrote:
also coat both sides of the new gasket with vaseline,,,,,,,,,worked
for me.
=========
giggle
chuckle
lol
rotflol
rotflmao
ROTFLMAFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE SAID TO DO WHAT???????????????
ROTFLMAO ! ! ! ! !! ! ! !
~:~
marsh
~takes a toke.......wow......~
~:~
Marsh Monster
> On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 14:21:31 -0600, "-the HoSt-" <H...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"brianorion" <Brianori...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
==========
==========
Indian Head Gasket Shellac
and that's all i gotta say bout that
:)
~:~
marsh
~pours one fer duh Crowman........good to see ole friends~
~:~
Marsh Monster
======
On Dec 2, 12:18 pm, "-the HoSt-" <H...@hotmail.com> wrote in messg:
It is not a huge leak, but it frustrates the hell out of me that I
cannot
seem to stop a simple leak,
=======
I .......HATE repeating meself and often find i gits a bit
overbearing when forced to......so.....jest let me refer you
to MY original reply.
and......then......if you have eeeeeeeny more questions...
BY GAWD ASK THEM!!!!
:)
because.....i...me...alone........
HAVE SEALED MORE TRANNY LEAKS THAN CUDA HAS
GOT BAD ADVICE.........or fer dat matter..everyone that's
answered so far.......combined.
don't believe me....??
cool......
mmmmm......who else gave chrome pan as the FIRST possible
cause?
:)
~:~
marsh
~takes a toke......mmmmm........good stuff~
~:~
Refinish King
how the hell are you?
RK
"Marsh Monster" <MarshMon...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Refinish King
Bending frames with your Kansas Jack?
LOL
RK
"Marsh Monster" <MarshMon...@aol.com> wrote in message
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aarcuda69062
<da7957c1-c2f0-4b39...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
> you're wrong.....i'm rite.....
Really? How can you be certain?
> undertand??
Nope.
aarcuda69062
<a042a555-1098-4e3a...@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.co
You claimed it's because the pan is chrome.
No mention of chrome in that post.
So, is it chrome or is it a flaw in the pan?
aarcuda69062
<fd652f10-da7d-4efe...@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
> anywhoooooooo.........
> did i mention......i jest recently.......
> left.........
> the tranny biz after 18 years in it..??
"Recently left" can mean a lot of things.
aarcuda69062
<6f5373cb-bfc9-4b3b...@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.co
m>,
Marsh Monster <MarshMon...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2:23 pm, "-the HoSt-" <H...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "TOBMA" <To...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:IoqdnW975YP6gM7a...@insightbb.com...
> >
> > http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product?tmplframe=...
> >
> > > Install a aluminum pan.
> >
> > Damn that's an expensive pan.
> > I see that it comes with washers for the bolts, maybe I need that.
> >
> > H
>
> =======
> =======
>
> nope..that's not what you need......
>
> you need sealant.
Works for all the hacks.
Old Crow
Nah, I'm a Permatex aviation adhesive kinda guy.
Either way, sounds like we're both old school.
>
>
>
>:)
>
>
>~:~
>marsh
>~pours one fer duh Crowman........good to see ole friends~
>~:~
Check out my new gig:
(I"m the big guy in the middle)
Old Crow
Read the rest of the thread. The OP said this later on.
> Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
>puckered.
I agree wiith MM. Since I now do custom and hot rod work instead of
woriking in a dealer, those cheap assed chrome pans, timing covers and
valve covers have become the bane of my existance. They look pretty,
but they'll all leak sooner or later. Usually much sooner than a
plain steel or aluminum piece.
I grind the chrome on the sealing surfaces, use a little Aviation
Permatex, and it's good to go.
Old Crow
Wonder if he's the same guy that said you should coat one surface with
oil before you use RTV on a gasket over in the Jeep group?
Here...put *this* in you pipe...and smoke it.
Old Crow
The big biker guy from Arkansas...me, but the Cuda guy thinks I'm a
hack, too.
>
>
>~:~
>marsh
>~takes a toke......mmmmm........good stuff~
>~:~
gimme that!
aarcuda69062
Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The big biker guy from Arkansas...me, but the Cuda guy thinks I'm a
> hack, too.
Care to point out where I claimed you were a hack?
aarcuda69062
Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >No mention of chrome in that post.
> >
> >So, is it chrome or is it a flaw in the pan?
>
> Read the rest of the thread. The OP said this later on.
Yes, the OP revealed later on that the pan is chrome plated. That
makes MM's reply a good guess and nothing more.
Marsh also indicates that the cause could be a flawed pan
(excluding that -chromed- is a flaw) which is it then?
> > Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
> >puckered.
>
> I agree wiith MM.
That lucky guesses are good?
> Since I now do custom and hot rod work instead of
> woriking in a dealer, those cheap assed chrome pans, timing covers and
> valve covers have become the bane of my existance. They look pretty,
> but they'll all leak sooner or later. Usually much sooner than a
> plain steel or aluminum piece.
None of which makes Marsh the 'gawd" he thinks he is.
> I grind the chrome on the sealing surfaces, use a little Aviation
> Permatex, and it's good to go.
And torque the bolts to 15 ft.lb.?
Marsh Monster
==========
aarcuda69062 <nonel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
You claimed it's because the pan is chrome.
No mention of chrome in that post.
So, is it chrome or is it a flaw in the pan?- Hide quoted text -
==========
==========
My FIRST reply to the OP gave THREE possibilities.....
THE FIRST ...was that he had a chrome pan.
again......scroll up......reeeed whut i rote not whut you red.
:)
and.......as to yer LAST sentence in this reply.....
The pan gasket "almost" ALWAYS LEAKS on chrome pans
when gasket shellec isn't used.
again.....please reeed whut ima rite'n not whut yer a reed'n.
~:~
marsh
~drops a shroom in cuda's coffee whilst he isn't look'n........
there......that'll git his brain rite~
~"~
Marsh Monster
>
> Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > you're wrong.....i'm rite.....
>
> Really? How can you be certain?
>
> > undertand??
>
> Nope.
=======
=======
read the thread...........
i'm certain i'm RITE.
anywhoooooo........there's NO WAY i can be wrong.......
:)
again.......read my FIRST reply to the thread
:)
~:~
marsh
~takes a toke.......mmmmmm.......good stuff~
~:~
Marsh Monster
> "TOBMA" <To...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>
> news:IoqdnW975YP6gM7a...@insightbb.com...
>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product?tmplframe=...
>
> > Install a aluminum pan.
>
> Damn that's an expensive pan.
> I see that it comes with washers for the bolts, maybe I need that.
>
> H
=========
=========
A $3 bottle of Idian Head Gasket shellac.......would be cheaper.
if........the pan gasket is the leak.
anywhooo...you shudd'nt put THAT pan back on without the
sealant either way.
fact.......not fiction.
~:~
marsh
~takes a sip of the shroom juice........mmmmmm.......
get'n better everyminute~
~:~
Old Crow
<none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>In article <3cgnl31mqj1t1bqai...@4ax.com>,
> Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> >No mention of chrome in that post.
>> >
>> >So, is it chrome or is it a flaw in the pan?
>>
>> Read the rest of the thread. The OP said this later on.
>
>Yes, the OP revealed later on that the pan is chrome plated. That
>makes MM's reply a good guess and nothing more.
>Marsh also indicates that the cause could be a flawed pan
>(excluding that -chromed- is a flaw) which is it then?
Guess? Possibly, but surely an educated one. I don't see you arguing
with the fact that chrome pans are more likely to leak(as indicated
above.
Seeing that none of us but the OP can actually see and put our hands
on the vehicle, we're *all* guessing, really.
>
>> > Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
>> >puckered.
>>
>> I agree wiith MM.
>
>That lucky guesses are good?
Hey, it *never* hurts ot guess right.
>
>> Since I now do custom and hot rod work instead of
>> woriking in a dealer, those cheap assed chrome pans, timing covers and
>> valve covers have become the bane of my existance. They look pretty,
>> but they'll all leak sooner or later. Usually much sooner than a
>> plain steel or aluminum piece.
>
>None of which makes Marsh the 'gawd" he thinks he is.
Hmm, sounds like you've got issues. Won't get into it, nope, not at
all.
>
>> I grind the chrome on the sealing surfaces, use a little Aviation
>> Permatex, and it's good to go.
>
>And torque the bolts to 15 ft.lb.?
Don't have the service manual to answer that one. Whatever it calls
for, of course.
15ft lbs does sound like a bit much though. I'd probably stay in the
10-12 ft lb range. That's about the torque my Snap-On 1/4' drive air
ratchet puts out at 90psi of shop air.
Old Crow
Different thread, another newsgroup, some time back.
aarcuda69062
Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:18:18 GMT, aarcuda69062
> <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <9vgnl39iupcpce0a9...@4ax.com>,
> > Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The big biker guy from Arkansas...me, but the Cuda guy thinks I'm a
> >> hack, too.
> >
> >Care to point out where I claimed you were a hack?
>
> Different thread, another newsgroup, some time back.
What was it about?
aarcuda69062
<927d8f46-dc1c-4ceb...@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
> ==========
> ==========
> aarcuda69062 <nonel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> You claimed it's because the pan is chrome.
>
> No mention of chrome in that post.
>
> So, is it chrome or is it a flaw in the pan?- Hide quoted text -
> ==========
> ==========
>
> My FIRST reply to the OP gave THREE possibilities.....
>
> THE FIRST ...was that he had a chrome pan.
>
>
> again......scroll up......reeeed whut i rote not whut you red.
>
> :)
>
> and.......as to yer LAST sentence in this reply.....
> The pan gasket "almost" ALWAYS LEAKS on chrome pans
> when gasket shellec isn't used.
Your first reply was you claiming to disagree, which in fact was
you offering "other possibilities."
I responded based upon the facts the OP gave, which I still stand
behind (too much torque).
Did I disagree with the possibilities that you offered Marsh?
> again.....please reeed whut ima rite'n not whut yer a reed'n.
I do read what you write, bad as it may be to decipher...
...but that's not my fault.
Seems to me you should take your own advice.
aarcuda69062
<d70eff0c-2c6d-4945...@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com
> On Dec 8, 11:26 pm, aarcuda69062 <nonel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <da7957c1-c2f0-4b39-9f16-7d52cddc8...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > you're wrong.....i'm rite.....
> >
> > Really? How can you be certain?
> >
> > > undertand??
> >
> > Nope.
>
> =======
> =======
> read the thread...........
>
> i'm certain i'm RITE.
Because you're there to see it?
> anywhoooooo........there's NO WAY i can be wrong.......
Because you're there to see it.
> :)
>
>
> again.......read my FIRST reply to the thread
The one where you offer different possibilities whilst claiming
to disagree.
Read what you -rote-, not what you wish I said.
aarcuda69062
Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:33:54 GMT, aarcuda69062
> <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <3cgnl31mqj1t1bqai...@4ax.com>,
> > Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >No mention of chrome in that post.
> >> >
> >> >So, is it chrome or is it a flaw in the pan?
> >>
> >> Read the rest of the thread. The OP said this later on.
> >
> >Yes, the OP revealed later on that the pan is chrome plated. That
> >makes MM's reply a good guess and nothing more.
>
>
>
> >Marsh also indicates that the cause could be a flawed pan
> >(excluding that -chromed- is a flaw) which is it then?
>
> Guess?
Or a sock puppet.
> Possibly, but surely an educated one.
whoopie!
> I don't see you arguing
> with the fact that chrome pans are more likely to leak(as indicated
> above.
No shit. And I didn't after that fact was revealed by the OP.
> Seeing that none of us but the OP can actually see and put our hands
> on the vehicle, we're *all* guessing, really.
Not really. He stated what he was torquing the bolts to, I know
from 39 years of experience in spite of what's listed in the FSM
that -that- is too much torque, here is where you enter and
disagree and list your three possibilities which in fact were NOT
and still aren't in disagreement with what I said.
> >
> >> > Well it IS a chrome pan, Marsh Monster mentioned that. And the holes aint
> >> >puckered.
> >>
> >> I agree wiith MM.
> >
> >That lucky guesses are good?
>
> Hey, it *never* hurts ot guess right.
It was still a guess.
> >> Since I now do custom and hot rod work instead of
> >> woriking in a dealer, those cheap assed chrome pans, timing covers and
> >> valve covers have become the bane of my existance. They look pretty,
> >> but they'll all leak sooner or later. Usually much sooner than a
> >> plain steel or aluminum piece.
> >
> >None of which makes Marsh the 'gawd" he thinks he is.
>
> Hmm, sounds like you've got issues. Won't get into it, nope, not at
> all.
Again, you look desperate.
aarcuda69062
<nonelson-6AF225...@news.chi.sbcglobal.net>,
aarcuda69062 <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Not really. He stated what he was torquing the bolts to, I know
> from 39 years of experience in spite of what's listed in the FSM
> that -that- is too much torque, here is where you enter and
> disagree and list your three possibilities which in fact were NOT
> and still aren't in disagreement with what I said.
Should read; here is where MM enters and disagreed and listed his
three possibilities.
Didn't mean to attribute that exchange to you OC.
Old Crow
<none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>In article <mcnol35jdj8oumi9j...@4ax.com>,
> Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:18:18 GMT, aarcuda69062
>> <none...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <9vgnl39iupcpce0a9...@4ax.com>,
>> > Old Crow <walli...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The big biker guy from Arkansas...me, but the Cuda guy thinks I'm a
>> >> hack, too.
>> >
>> >Care to point out where I claimed you were a hack?
>>
>> Different thread, another newsgroup, some time back.
>
>What was it about?
I'm an old guy...I don't remember shit like that<g>.
Wasn't important then, even less so now. Mighta been something to do
with flat rate dealership technicians, but since I no longer work for
a dealer and I'm not on flat rate anymore, it's water under the
bridge.
Got any pics of your 'Cuda? Had me a '68 Runner one time, gave it
away, and now that I'm in the restoration business, I kick myself
daily.
-the HoSt-
"-the HoSt-" <Ho...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cf9f6$4752f4b3$40970a51$20...@EVERESTKC.NET...
> I have tried to replace this gasket 4 times now. I have a brand new pan,
and
> I always torque to 8-10 foot pounds.
> From the looks of it, it leaks down the bolts somehow. I always see the
oil
> welling up on a couple of bolts.
> I have tried rubber, cork, and fiber composite gaskets. I never use rtv or
> any sealant as it is not recommended, but I am about ready to put some on
> out of desperation, just have to be careful not to let it squeeze out to
the
> inside of the pan.
> It is not a huge leak, but it frustrates the hell out of me that I cannot
> floor. And it is only ten bucks for a new gasket so every couple of weeks
> I'll try again, and I'll probably be trying again this weekend too.
>
> If anyone has experience with this give me a clue.
>
>
Well I tried to torque to 12 ft/lbs, no sealants, just a cork gasket.
Much better now.
Thanks all!
H.
Marsh Monster
> "-the HoSt-" <H...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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again....IF the gasket was the leak........
you'llllllllllllll.....beeeeeee..........srrrrrrrrrrry.............
anywhoooo............
glad to hear YOU'RE happy with you're repair......
personally......i'd fire you for not doing it right the first time.
cuz......if it comesback.....AGAIN.....i'ma gonna take it outta
yer paycheck fer not listen'n to seasoned advice.
~:~
marsh
~takes a toke......pours you a crownroyal......wish's you duh best~
~:~