Ryanair - hand baggage
citizen142
So 189 passengers carry on hand luggage only. Will the over-head
lockers contain the permitted dimension suitcases then?
Experience tells me no.
Roland Perry
29 Sep 2009, citizen142 <citiz...@hotmail.com> remarked:
The permitted dimension suitcases should all fit under the seat in front
(apart for the front rows). And only being allowed one bag means the
overheads could then in theory be empty!
Also, if the permitted size bags really are that size (20cm on the
smallest dimension) then if the bags are put in the overheads with that
side of the bag horizontal, the run-length per row-of-three-seats is
60cm, or significantly less than the Ryanair 30" seat pitch. [You have
to subtract a few overheads that are used by the crew, but in theory it
should all fit].
ps. I note that BMIbaby is getting ever more stringent in making sure
the bags meet the permitted measurements - even when the flight is only
half full.
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Roland Perry
tim.....
"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <REuwm.212025$tD4.1...@newsfe07.ams2>, at 22:06:02 on Tue, 29
> Sep 2009, citizen142 <citiz...@hotmail.com> remarked:
>>Boeing 737 800. 189 passenger seats.
>>
>>So 189 passengers carry on hand luggage only. Will the over-head
>>lockers contain the permitted dimension suitcases then?
>>
>>Experience tells me no.
>
> The permitted dimension suitcases should all fit under the seat in front
> (apart for the front rows).
Really. My maximun sized bag is not even close to fitting under the seat.
> And only being allowed one bag means the overheads could then in theory be
> empty!
>
> Also, if the permitted size bags really are that size (20cm on the
> smallest dimension) then if the bags are put in the overheads with that
> side of the bag horizontal, the run-length per row-of-three-seats is 60cm,
> or significantly less than the Ryanair 30" seat pitch. [You have to
> subtract a few overheads that are used by the crew, but in theory it
> should all fit].
After we had this discussion before, I checked. You can get three bags in
the locker than runs across two rows of seats, so that one bag for ever two
pax.
tim
Roland Perry
Sep 2009, tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>>>Boeing 737 800. 189 passenger seats.
>>>
>>>So 189 passengers carry on hand luggage only. Will the over-head
>>>lockers contain the permitted dimension suitcases then?
>>>
>>>Experience tells me no.
>>
>> The permitted dimension suitcases should all fit under the seat in front
>> (apart for the front rows).
>
>Really. My maximun sized bag is not even close to fitting under the seat.
In which dimension doesn't it fit?
My trolley-bag is 20x30x50 and fits under a seat easily. (The "30" is
the dimension where it is most conservative, but my hips are at least
40cm wide, and I fit into the seat, so a 40cm wide bag ought to fit
under it).
>> And only being allowed one bag means the overheads could then in theory be
>> empty!
>>
>> Also, if the permitted size bags really are that size (20cm on the
>> smallest dimension) then if the bags are put in the overheads with that
>> side of the bag horizontal, the run-length per row-of-three-seats is 60cm,
>> or significantly less than the Ryanair 30" seat pitch. [You have to
>> subtract a few overheads that are used by the crew, but in theory it
>> should all fit].
>
>After we had this discussion before, I checked. You can get three bags in
>the locker than runs across two rows of seats, so that one bag for ever two
>pax.
We must be at cross purposes; two rows of seats is 60 inches (150cm) and
a maximum sized Ryanair bag is 20x40x55, so you could almost get three
of them in *end to end*, let alone side by side.
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Roland Perry
tim.....
> In message <7ih86nF...@mid.individual.net>, at 15:27:58 on Wed, 30
> Sep 2009, tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>
>>>>Boeing 737 800. 189 passenger seats.
>>>>
>>>>So 189 passengers carry on hand luggage only. Will the over-head
>>>>lockers contain the permitted dimension suitcases then?
>>>>
>>>>Experience tells me no.
>>>
>>> The permitted dimension suitcases should all fit under the seat in front
>>> (apart for the front rows).
>>
>>Really. My maximun sized bag is not even close to fitting under the seat.
>
> In which dimension doesn't it fit?
>
> My trolley-bag is 20x30x50 and fits under a seat easily. (The "30" is the
> dimension where it is most conservative, but my hips are at least 40cm
> wide, and I fit into the seat, so a 40cm wide bag ought to fit under it).
My bag's 20 by 40 by 50. I assure you that it doesn't fit (at least not so
you can put your feet on the floor afterwards)
The seat in front has supports that you have to fit in between, and you
can't
>
>>> And only being allowed one bag means the overheads could then in theory
>>> be
>>> empty!
>>>
>>> Also, if the permitted size bags really are that size (20cm on the
>>> smallest dimension) then if the bags are put in the overheads with that
>>> side of the bag horizontal, the run-length per row-of-three-seats is
>>> 60cm,
>>> or significantly less than the Ryanair 30" seat pitch. [You have to
>>> subtract a few overheads that are used by the crew, but in theory it
>>> should all fit].
>>
>>After we had this discussion before, I checked. You can get three bags in
>>the locker than runs across two rows of seats, so that one bag for ever
>>two
>>pax.
>
> We must be at cross purposes; two rows of seats is 60 inches (150cm) and a
> maximum sized Ryanair bag is 20x40x55, so you could almost get three of
> them in *end to end*, let alone side by side.
The seat size may be 150 cm, but the locker isn't.
tim
Roland Perry
>>>My maximun sized bag is not even close to fitting under the seat.
>>
>> In which dimension doesn't it fit?
>>
>> My trolley-bag is 20x30x50 and fits under a seat easily. (The "30" is the
>> dimension where it is most conservative, but my hips are at least 40cm
>> wide, and I fit into the seat, so a 40cm wide bag ought to fit under it).
>
>My bag's 20 by 40 by 50. I assure you that it doesn't fit (at least not so
>you can put your feet on the floor afterwards)
Oh, you have big feet too :(
>The seat in front has supports that you have to fit in between, and you
>can't
The space under the seats is normally divided into a 1+2 arrangement,
which is less convenient if you have an aisle seat, but gives a lot of
flexibility for the others.
>> We must be at cross purposes; two rows of seats is 60 inches (150cm) and a
>> maximum sized Ryanair bag is 20x40x55, so you could almost get three of
>> them in *end to end*, let alone side by side.
>
>The seat size may be 150 cm, but the locker isn't.
There are some bulkheads between the lockers (which I'm not sure are
aligned exactly with pairs of seat rows. What you've not explained is
why a 150cm run of locker (less the bulkhead) isn't sufficient for
3x40cm, let alone 3x20cm.
--
Roland Perry
Buddenbrooks
> aligned exactly with pairs of seat rows. What you've not explained is why
> a 150cm run of locker (less the bulkhead) isn't sufficient for 3x40cm, let
> alone 3x20cm.
> --
Presumably Ryan Air are confident as they are unlikely to deplane
passengers, and until all are aboard they will be unsure of the volume
of hand luggage.
tim.....
it will do 3 *40, but that covers two rows = six people
tim
Roland Perry
>> aligned exactly with pairs of seat rows. What you've not explained is why
>> a 150cm run of locker (less the bulkhead) isn't sufficient for 3x40cm, let
>> alone 3x20cm.
>
>it will do 3 *40, but that covers two rows = six people
You are right, a power of two got muddled somewhere earlier.
The correct calculation is how many 20cm bags you can get in 150cm,
which is more than six, so one per passenger.
--
Roland Perry
Roland Perry
30 Sep 2009, Buddenbrooks <knights...@budweiser.com> remarked:
> Presumably Ryan Air are confident as they are unlikely to deplane
>passengers, and until all are aboard they will be unsure of the volume
>of hand luggage.
If they want to be, they can be very sure each person only has one
piece, and that piece is of the correct size.
If all else fails they can put the excess bags in the hold - they
already have a scheme for "impounding" oversize and over-number bags,
charging people at the gate. They'd just have to do that free of charge.
--
Roland Perry
tim.....
You can't get the bags in stood on their side.
tim
Roland Perry
Oct 2009, tim..... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>> The correct calculation is how many 20cm bags you can get in 150cm, which
>> is more than six, so one per passenger.
>
>You can't get the bags in stood on their side.
What's the biggest "vertical" dimension that the bins on a typical 737
will take?
--
Roland Perry
Buddenbrooks
> If they want to be, they can be very sure each person only has one
> piece, and that piece is of the correct size.
>
> If all else fails they can put the excess bags in the hold - they already
> have a scheme for "impounding" oversize and over-number bags, charging
> people at the gate. They'd just have to do that free of charge.
At the gate this would seriously stretch the turn round time. Could they
force a passenger to part with a compliant bag?
As passengers now arrive with only one bag there is nowhere for them to put
even a few valuable or breakable items.
Any business travelers may have items they are not permitted by their
employers to let out of sight. I cannot believe Ryan Air do not expect to
have sufficient
hand baggage capacity.
tim.....
The profile is not rectangular
at the back it is less than 20 cm
tim
tim.....
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>
> "Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > If they want to be, they can be very sure each person only has one
>> piece, and that piece is of the correct size.
>>
> I think that is a given for this thread.
>
>> If all else fails they can put the excess bags in the hold - they already
>> have a scheme for "impounding" oversize and over-number bags, charging
>> people at the gate. They'd just have to do that free of charge.
>
> At the gate this would seriously stretch the turn round time. Could they
> force a passenger to part with a compliant bag?
Other airlines do on small turbo-prop planes with very (very) small lockers
tim
Roland Perry
1 Oct 2009, Buddenbrooks <knights...@budweiser.com> remarked:
>> If they want to be, they can be very sure each person only has one
>> piece, and that piece is of the correct size.
>>
>I think that is a given for this thread.
>
>> If all else fails they can put the excess bags in the hold - they
>>already have a scheme for "impounding" oversize and over-number bags,
>>charging people at the gate. They'd just have to do that free of charge.
>
>At the gate this would seriously stretch the turn round time. Could
>they force a passenger to part with a compliant bag?
They'd do it on the plane. Happens all the time on 'Commuter jets" (aka
Little Fokkers) - checkin and gate staff let you get to the plane with
standard carry-on bags, and they then insist on putting most of them in
the hold!
>As passengers now arrive with only one bag there is nowhere for them to
>put even a few valuable or breakable items.
They could use their judgement over which bags they'd do it for. It's
normally quite obvious which ones would be suitable.
I was checking in at EMA a week ago and the chap in front had two camera
bags - one with a "professional" video camera and the other with an SLR
and gadgets. He tried to combine the contents but failed. Eventually
they (BMIBaby) let him go to the gate with both. Dunno what happened
there.
>Any business travelers may have items they are not permitted by their
>employers to let out of sight.
Then perhaps their picky employers should pay for a flight with a more
generous baggage allowance?
>I cannot believe Ryan Air do not expect to have sufficient hand baggage
>capacity.
As I've said a few times now, they have almost twice the necessary
capacity. Those valuable items can go under the seat in front.
--
Roland Perry
Roland Perry
>> will take?
>
>The profile is not rectangular
>
>at the back it is less than 20 cm
Seems unlikely as my 20cm high bag fits "end on" (and the 30cm edge
horizontal) with no problems.
--
Roland Perry
Buddenbrooks
>
> Then perhaps their picky employers should pay for a flight with a more
> generous baggage allowance?
>
Many passangers are couriers and although they may not have large carry on
it can only be carry on.
I would guess the majority of business travellers on short haul are
carrying a bag that they cannot allow to be
seperated from them.
My travel insurance specifically excludes baggage while outside of my
direct control.
Roland Perry
2009, Buddenbrooks <knights...@budweiser.com> remarked:
>> Then perhaps their picky employers should pay for a flight with a
>>more generous baggage allowance?
>
> Many passangers are couriers and although they may not have large
>carry on it can only be carry on.
>
> I would guess the majority of business travellers on short haul are
>carrying a bag that they cannot allow to be
>seperated from them.
>
>My travel insurance specifically excludes baggage while outside of my
>direct control.
Is this an attempt to make a list of reasons for paying for a flight
with a more generous baggage allowance?
--
Roland Perry
pete
no-frills flight these days isn't so much to get the seat of your
choice, but to get stowage for your bag(s). While it may, theoretically
be possible to get all the cubic centimetres of regulation sized
bags into the stated capacity of the overhead bins (though personally
I doubt it). When you take into account the way people stash them,
the bins that seem to be full with other junk (crew stuff?, in-flight
magazines?)) plus the coats and things that people put up there, there
is nowhere near sufficient space.
>
Roland Perry
2009, pete <no-...@unknown.com> remarked:
So what happens to the "overflow" bags that the not-so-rushing
passengers can't get in the overheads? Not left on the tarmac, surely?
--
Roland Perry
Buddenbrooks
> In message <zr7xm.1074$aj1...@newsfe30.ams2>, at 20:30:29 on Thu, 1 Oct
> with a more generous baggage allowance?
>
No, the small carry on allowance is sufficient, the problem would occur if
there is an attempt to force
carry on into the hold.
I don't think Ryan Air has a problem, I have been on full flights and most
passengers have carry on.
Neil Williams
wrote:
>The correct calculation is how many 20cm bags you can get in 150cm,
>which is more than six, so one per passenger.
Unless the lockers on Ryanair are bigger than the easyJet Airbus ones,
a 55x40x20 hard bag won't fit in on its side because the back of the
locker slopes in with the shape of the "tube".
If they were more strict on the 20 part, though (easyJet aren't, at
least), it might work if you piled the luggage in two high, with hard
bags at the bottom and soft ones on top.
Neil
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Neil Williams
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Neil Williams
wrote:
>Seems unlikely as my 20cm high bag fits "end on" (and the 30cm edge
>horizontal) with no problems.
I reckon that to get the bags in vertically you'd need to go to
55x35x20. I think at least one low-cost does, but I forget who.
The problem with going to that size is that there are few bags of any
decent size that fit those slightly odd dimensions.
Roland Perry
2 Oct 2009, Neil Williams <wensl...@pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>Unless the lockers on Ryanair are bigger than the easyJet Airbus ones,
>a 55x40x20 hard bag won't fit in on its side because the back of the
>locker slopes in with the shape of the "tube".
We seem to keep coming back to the "40" dimension. It's been accused of
not going under a seat, and not of not fitting (vertically) in an
overhead bin. My bag's about 31 in that dimension (30 with middle-age
spread!) so maybe I'm not qualified to comment on direct personal
experience. But I'm off on my travels again tomorrow and will take my
tape measure :) And observe what other people's bags do.
>If they were more strict on the 20 part, though (easyJet aren't, at
>least)
In practice it's the "20" dimension that's the only one the "sizing
frames" actually catches.
--
Roland Perry
Neil Williams
wrote:
> >If they were more strict on the 20 part, though (easyJet aren't, at
> >least)
>
>In practice it's the "20" dimension that's the only one the "sizing
>frames" actually catches.
If they use it - I've not seen easyJet do so at the gate, only at
check-in, so if you check in online you can get away with anything.
They are strict about one bag only, though less so than Ryanair - you
are allowed a separate bag of "duty-free".
Roland Perry
3 Oct 2009, Neil Williams <wensl...@pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>>In practice it's the "20" dimension that's the only one the "sizing
>>frames" actually catches.
>
>If they use it - I've not seen easyJet do so at the gate, only at
>check-in, so if you check in online you can get away with anything.
Apparently they check all carry-on bags at security at Stansted - but
I've not been through recently. And although of less direct application
to low-costs I've seen the security people measuring hand baggage
Heathrow "Flight Connections" centre.
In the last couple of years it's become much more likely that BMIbaby
will measure your bag at the gate. At EMA it's almost a certainty!
>They are strict about one bag only, though less so than Ryanair - you
>are allowed a separate bag of "duty-free".
Are you suggesting Ryanair don't generally allow duty-fee unless it fits
within your existing "one-bag"?
--
Roland Perry
Neil Williams
wrote:
>Are you suggesting Ryanair don't generally allow duty-fee unless it fits
>within your existing "one-bag"?
I understand that that is the policy, yes. Though I've not seen it
implemented, as I haven't flown Ryanair in some time. (Will be doing
in a month or so though)
To confirm:-
http://www.ryanair.com/site/IE/news.php?yr=09&month=feb&story=gen-en-040209
However, easyJet (while they hide it away somewhat) do specifically
allow one additional bag of duty-free. I specifically asked them
about larger items (as I was considering buying a laptop at "duty
free", though I didn't in the end) and they said that was OK as well.
(I also asked a few of their gate agents at EDI and they seemed OK
with the idea)
http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Book/regulations.html#baggage
or to quote the specific bit:-
===
Save where the limits set locally are more restrictive, passengers are
permitted one standard piece of hand baggage to a volume limit of
55x40x20cm (including wheels and pockets) (�Standard Hand Baggage�).
It must fit without force into the gauges provided at check-in or
departure gates. No weight restriction applies within reasonable
limits � i.e. a passenger must be able to place the piece of luggage
safely in the overhead storage bins without assistance.
In addition to the �Standard Hand Baggage� you may also carry:
(a) one of the following: An overcoat; an umbrella, or a shawl; and
(b) one standard size carrier bag of goods purchased from the
departure airport.
===
Roland Perry
>(a) one of the following: An overcoat; an umbrella, or a shawl; and
>(b) one standard size carrier bag of goods purchased from the
>departure airport.
So no 40" LCD TVs bought at the Duty Free (sic) shop then?
You may laugh, but I've seen a lady trying to catch a flight at AMS
where her duty free purchase (some large electrical item) was too big to
go through the x-ray machine at the gate!!
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Roland Perry
pete
> In message <4ac658d7....@news.individual.net>, at 19:49:45 on Fri,
> 2 Oct 2009, Neil Williams <wensl...@pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>>Unless the lockers on Ryanair are bigger than the easyJet Airbus ones,
>>a 55x40x20 hard bag won't fit in on its side because the back of the
>>locker slopes in with the shape of the "tube".
>
> We seem to keep coming back to the "40" dimension. It's been accused of
> not going under a seat, and not of not fitting (vertically) in an
> overhead bin. My bag's about 31 in that dimension (30 with middle-age
> spread!) so maybe I'm not qualified to comment on direct personal
> experience. But I'm off on my travels again tomorrow and will take my
> tape measure :) And observe what other people's bags do.
The thing is that just because the space under a seat is large enough
to accommodate a bag, you may not actually be able to get it' into that
hole. You still need "wiggle room" to maneuvre the bag around the seat
and the back of the seat in front. If there are already people occupying
the neighbouring seat(s), you might not be able to get it into the
space.
Roland Perry
2009, pete <no-...@unknown.com> remarked:
>The thing is that just because the space under a seat is large enough
>to accommodate a bag, you may not actually be able to get it' into that
>hole. You still need "wiggle room" to maneuvre the bag around the seat
>and the back of the seat in front. If there are already people occupying
>the neighbouring seat(s), you might not be able to get it into the
>space.
I have had many problems with air travel (including twice been severely
hit over the head by bags people were getting out of overhead lockers),
but that's not one of them.
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Roland Perry
tim (not at home)
"Neil Williams" <wensl...@pacersplace.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 19:53:15 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Seems unlikely as my 20cm high bag fits "end on" (and the 30cm edge
>>horizontal) with no problems.
>
> I reckon that to get the bags in vertically you'd need to go to
> 55x35x20. I think at least one low-cost does, but I forget who.
Iceland air use 55x35x25 which in volume is about the same as a standard
bag.
But it's a real bugger if you are already set up for 55x40
tim
tim....
According to one of Molly's rants in a newspaper, this is the policy. I've
never seen it officially announced anywhere, not that it would ever bother
me.
tim
Neil Williams
wrote:
>So no 40" LCD TVs bought at the Duty Free (sic) shop then?
Nope :)
(I'm surprised they'll sell such things for someone to carry on, TBH).
Roland Perry
Oct 2009, tim.... <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>> Are you suggesting Ryanair don't generally allow duty-fee unless it fits
>> within your existing "one-bag"?
>
>According to one of Molly's rants in a newspaper, this is the policy. I've
>never seen it officially announced anywhere, not that it would ever bother
>me.
He appears to claim that none of his pax buy duty free. I can see why
(here at EMA at least) because the prices are way above what you'd pay
in a supermarket. But the "Duty Free" shop does have a selection of
items (eg exotic Whisky) that you can't get in ASDA. Maybe they attract
some impulse purchases. It wouldn't make sense for them to dedicate so
much shelf space if they didn't.
I'm on the way to Genvea, which isn't in the EU! So some genuine "cheap
booze" opportunities arise.
--
Roland Perry
Roland Perry
4 Oct 2009, Neil Williams <wensl...@pacersplace.org.uk> remarked:
>>So no 40" LCD TVs bought at the Duty Free (sic) shop then?
>
>Nope :)
>
>(I'm surprised they'll sell such things for someone to carry on, TBH).
Some of the larger UK airports appear to have a loophole where you can
buy the items on the way out, then collect them on the way back (still
airside and officially "outside the UK" I suppose). But there's no such
scheme at AMS (or EMA or LTN or BHX).
--
Roland Perry
Neil Williams
wrote:
>Some of the larger UK airports appear to have a loophole where you can
>buy the items on the way out, then collect them on the way back (still
>airside and officially "outside the UK" I suppose). But there's no such
>scheme at AMS (or EMA or LTN or BHX).
According to their website, Dixons offer that at all BAA airports but
not any of the others.
Neil Williams
wrote:
>Some of the larger UK airports appear to have a loophole where you can
>buy the items on the way out, then collect them on the way back (still
>airside and officially "outside the UK" I suppose)
Actually...outside the UK doesn't matter, at least as far as Dixons is
concerned. You can purchase items when flying domestic.
I imagine they just pay the VAT themselves in that situation.
Roland Perry
>>buy the items on the way out, then collect them on the way back (still
>>airside and officially "outside the UK" I suppose)
>
>Actually...outside the UK doesn't matter, at least as far as Dixons is
>concerned. You can purchase items when flying domestic.
>
>I imagine they just pay the VAT themselves in that situation.
Yes, I was getting confused with "Duty Free" items.
Dixons just apply an overall discount to their airport shops which is of
the order of magnitude of the VAT - and I'm sure they'll be "sharing"
that discount with their suppliers, in other words, Dixons will pay
slightly less for goods sold in those shops. But it's not VAT-free and
if you are VAT registered you can get a VAT receipt and reclaim, in the
normal way.
See the "Tax Free Prices" (their quotation marks) section here:
http://www.worlddutyfree.com/information/tax-and-duty-free-shopping.html
--
Roland Perry
Roland Perry
2009, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> remarked:
>I'm off on my travels again tomorrow and will take my tape measure :)
>And observe what other people's bags do.
The space under the seat in front (middle seat, Easyjet) was 27cm high
(and the Easyjet baggage-measuring frames are 23cm). Width was 42cm and
depth was 40cm under the seat plus another 40cm for the feet. That would
leave 25cm of "straight" floorspace for someone with a 55cm bag, which
is a bit tight.
The bins are a pair for three rows.
I was shocked by the lack of concern of the staff at Geneva, where the
average carry-on was two bags, and many had three! Perhaps a third of
the trolley-bags or holdalls taken on board were clearly oversize, too.
But somehow it all fitted (with a lot of juggling around) on a pretty
full flight; probably because some folks like myself only had an
under-seat item.
--
Roland Perry
Colum Mylod
wrote:
[snip under seat measurements - did anyone call Security?!]
>I was shocked by the lack of concern of the staff at Geneva, where the
>average carry-on was two bags, and many had three! Perhaps a third of
>the trolley-bags or holdalls taken on board were clearly oversize, too.
>But somehow it all fitted (with a lot of juggling around) on a pretty
>full flight; probably because some folks like myself only had an
>under-seat item.
GVA is the pits for EZ and charters. Fur coats are treated royally in
the main building, the plebs can queue up for passports and x-rays but
then abandon all restraint and swarm out to the plane, SpeedyBoarding
or non-SB.
Yet the self-check ins don't recognise SB, and you are supposed to
drop a bag to get the extra (SB) stamp. A chum in CH claims GVA is
where real France (of disorganisation and unSwissness) begins, no
matter what sovereignty was agreed between the 2 countries.
Ryanair in DUB are sniffy about the 1-bag rule but the terminal staff
in Aarhus didn't care, and let some ginormous bags slip through to the
plane, where the ever vigilant FY staff prevented them to continue.
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Old anti-spam address cmylod at despammed dot com appears broke
So back to cmylod at bigfoot dot com
Roland Perry
Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Colum Mylod <cmy...@bigfoot.comREMOVE> remarked:
>GVA is the pits for EZ and charters. Fur coats are treated royally in
>the main building, the plebs can queue up for passports and x-rays but
>then abandon all restraint and swarm out to the plane, SpeedyBoarding
>or non-SB.
My recent experiences in and out of GVA are that all SB buys you is a
longer wait on the bus to get to the plane! (Or indeed at Lisbon, a
longer wait on the stairs down to where the bus might arrive in 15
minutes).
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Roland Perry
Colum Mylod
wrote:
>My recent experiences in and out of GVA are that all SB buys you is a
>longer wait on the bus to get to the plane! (Or indeed at Lisbon, a
>longer wait on the stairs down to where the bus might arrive in 15
>minutes).
Indeed,, same at Luton where last becomes first. There must be some
grounds for a claim against those airlines if SB puts you last
onboard? Can I have my �12 back, plus my personal �10 admin charge
just like you airlines do? Plus obvious "distress" <cue hankie>?
Roland Perry
2009, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> remarked:
>My recent experiences in and out of GVA are that all SB buys you is a
>longer wait on the bus to get to the plane! (Or indeed at Lisbon, a
>longer wait on the stairs down to where the bus might arrive in 15
>minutes).
Things have improved slightly at GVA since earlier in the week. This
time they only loaded through the rear door of the bus, and we were
encouraged to move to the front, forming a first-in first-out queue that
would exit at the front door. So Speedy Boarders (of which there were
very few) did get to the plane first. But also stood on the bus longest
(almost 20 minutes) while it filled up.
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Roland Perry
tros...@gmail.com
> Boeing 737 800. 189 passenger seats.
>
> So 189 passengers carry on hand luggage only. Will the over-head
> lockers contain the permitted dimension suitcases then?
>
> Experience tells me no.
Do I pay the higher weight charges and turn it over to the hold?
Roland Perry
13:45:31 on Thu, 11 Jun 2015, tros...@gmail.com remarked:
And the explanation:
One cabin bag weighing up to 10 kg with maximum dimensions of
55cm x 40cm x 20cm, plus 1 small bag up to 35 x 20 x 20 cms may
be carried per passenger.
Due to cabin space limitations only 90 large cabin bags (55 x 40
x 20 cms) can be carried in the cabin, any remainder will be
carried free of charge in the aircraft hold.
Your bag is 10cm too big (And 10kg isn't much weight for a bag that size
either).
<https://www.ryanair.com/en/terms-and-conditions/regulations-
cabinbaggage/>
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Roland Perry