Drugs
Talesin
Robin wrote:
> In article <01bd72a7$e6cad7c0$4f04010a@default>, frosty <fr...@wnmc.net>
> writes
> >
> > Pot is the only drug I've experimented with. I could feel energy,
> >anyone
> >else have anything to say about different drugs and their effect on magick?
> >
>
> Many drugs can be used to induce different mind-states. Any of these
> mind-states are however achievable without resorting to drugs, although
> to do so is somewhat more difficult. The main problem with _starting_
> with the drugs is that you can reach mind-states in an uncontrollable
> way. You also do not learn the lessons and techniques you experience
> through the non-drug way.
>
> In some ways it's a bit like learning to drive. You can either learn to
> drive in the usual way, gain experience, and eventually become a world
> class racing driver - or you can just jump into the fast car without any
> training. Either way you get to drive a fast car, but without the
> training you have a lot less control, and have much more of a risk of
> crashing!
>
> Having said the above I should say that I'm not anti-drugs per se., but
> believe that drugs should only be experimented with in a magical sense
> _after_ you have done the required mind training.
>
> If you do experiment with drugs, especially some of the 'traditional'
> ones like nightshade or thornapple it is essential that you learn about
> the drug first (doses, effects etc.) and have a knowledgable person with
> you to help in case things go wrong. It is also important to remember
> some drugs build up in your body, so taking too many 'safe' doses can
> lead to a build up of a lethal dose.
>
> If at all possible collect the drug yourself directly from a clean
> 'power' plant. If you get it via someone else you will have no idea of
> what it has beet cut with, and it becomes very difficult to work out the
> correct dosage.
>
> Finnaly don't forget to look into the possibilities of addiction, and
> long term effects. Some drugs (eg. LSD) can cause you to have
> 'flashbacks' years after you stop taking them. Others can cause
> permanent psychological changes.
> --
>
> "...But the worst of all hatred
> Is that which is planned
> Against what we have
> In this goddess of land" - Levellers (Maid of the River)
>
> Robin
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Jaime LeFay
Oooohh....I'd never mix drugs with magick. I tend to get trapped
within myself while on drugs and often am very frightened and cold. Not
a good beginning for some spellwork.
Krow
In article <354620...@yahoo.com>, Jaime LeFay <Jaime...@yahoo.com>
writes
>Oooohh....I'd never mix drugs with magick. I tend to get trapped
>within myself while on drugs and often am very frightened and cold. Not
>a good beginning for some spellwork.
a gift!
As a general mind altering, free-thinking (ie wandering aimlessly)
substance, it's ideal. Also a damn sight more effective than valerian
for curing sleeplessness <G>!
*NB* I am in no way condoning or advocating the use of any illegal
substance to anyone. You have your mind and can get the info you need to
make it up. I did.
Krow
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Here's my thinkng..........
Drugs are mind altering and magick requires concentration and the use
of your mind, not to mention what us channelers and visionaries require
of our thoughts.
So by using drugs can you still claim to be a witch using YOUR powers?
Im going with not.
Its a flame war set-up here I know.
What I think if you are casting spells with drugs enough stuff is
happening to concur only by coincidence
and not because you have the mind power to pull it off while you are
"high"
Being a witch is a privilage, what you choose to do with it is an
art.... Doing Drugs for the sake of witchcraft is an excuse.
I can hear you say what about the very spiritual Indians, they used
drugs well documented and its an ancient practice! Yes it is and they
practice it on "RESERVATIONS"
A-rian