Fortress Maximus,I don't get why this is the holy grail for most TF fans,personally it's too big to be played with by adult aged TF fans. it's not very poseable. it's 2 feet tall & takes up way to much space. very heavy & tight to transform.
TigerMegatron
fans,personally it's too big & embarrassing to be played with by adult
aged TF fans. it's not very poseable. it's 2 feet tall & takes up way
to much space. very heavy & tight to transform.
Can someone please explain to me why this is the holy grail must have
TF toy for a TF fan???
Personally this toy does nothing for me. it's way to big to actually
be played with by adult aged TF fans.
For the sheer 2 feet size of this thing it's very un-impressive. it
lacks key poseability. the gimmicks & designs just scream toddler. the
only really decent mode is the robot mode. the other 2 alt modes are
really lacking. the city mode looks like those old school 1980's match
box garage stations. the attack base mode is the city mode faced
backwards.
I really never liked all the weird accessories & weapons this toy
comes with. 2 headmasters seems like a over-gimmick & made the 2 foot
tall robot seem like a empty spark/shell. the huge 2 guns were deluxe
size but did nothing but be 2 huge chunck of solid plastic. the 2
drones that combine just looked like wastes of plastic. all the mini
weapons just seemed like stuff that would get lost extremly easily by
kids back in 1987.
I honestly think the must get TF toys for adult aged TF fans are all
the MP Transformers toys. as their true works of art & feature
advanced sculpts,toy engineering,poseability & best updated homages to
date.
Another thing I dis-like about the fortress maximus toy. it takes up
way too much space in storage or out on display on the shelf/floor/
whatever.
oddly enough despite being 2 feet tall. none of the regular sized
deluxe car transformers from the 1980's could fit inside those parking
spaces in the city mode. the only transformers that could fit in that
2 foot city mode were the scramble city combiner limbs or minibots.
...Also Known As Thunder
one on store shelves EVER as a kid so of course I jumped at the chance
to get Brave Maximus when he came out. Plus, he's cool! :)
'nuff said!
t.k.
Gustavo Wombat
wrote:
> For a long time it was the largest TF there was. Also, I only ever saw
> one on store shelves EVER as a kid so of course I jumped at the chance
> to get Brave Maximus when he came out. Plus, he's cool! :)
That's one that I kind of wish I had bought.
When it was available, I pretty much shared Deathy's view on it -- too
big, not complex enough -- but now, I think it would make a great
playset for Micromasters, Spychangers, Legends, Minicons and World's
Smallest Dinobots.
I have Metroplex, but even with Minicons he looks more like a small
outpost than any kind of city or fortress.
Gustavo!
SteveD
<TigerM...@aol.com> wrote:
>Can someone please explain to me why this is the holy grail must have
>TF toy for a TF fan?
Because it was the largest, most impressive, and most expensive toy of the
entire G1 run, and therefore the hardest to attain at a time when many
fans of today were impressionable children.
I would imagine that there are quite a few now-adult fans who stood in
toystores back in 1987-8, just looking at a Fort Max on the top shelf for
anything up to an hour, scheming on how they might possibly get hold of
one. Now that they have adult levels of income, some of them are nostalgic
enough (or sufficiently completist collectors) to drop a couple hundred
dollars on this plastic behemoth.
Hey, if I saw one brought out of storage or at a flea market for under a
hundred bucks, I'd be pretty tempted myself. Considering that the only one
on eBay at the moment is about eight hundred including postage, though,
maybe I'll wait until it's reissued or someone does a top-quality
knockoff.
I'm actually surprised that Hasbro doesn't run an annual competition for
Transformers toy design, with the winning designs being run through Legal,
drop tested etc, and potentially sold via on-demand manufacturing through
HTS. Maybe they think the return wouldn't be worth the investment?
-SteveD
robo_rob
of those toys you can look at on a shelf and just be a little proud of
owning.
Onslaught Six
wrote:
> For a long time it was the largest TF there was. Also, I only ever saw
> one on store shelves EVER as a kid so of course I jumped at the chance
> to get Brave Maximus when he came out. Plus, he's cool! :)
He still hasn't been surpassed.
TigerMegatron
Thunder,Fortress maximus is still the biggest TF toy ever made. the
thing is about 2 feet tall. nothing TF made thus far comes close to
the height nor bulk nor weight nor accessories.
That's odd you only ever saw one fortress maximus on a store shelf. I
remember back in ther day in 1987,I saw a entire end cap at TRU with
fortress maximus stocked from floor to ceiling. their must have been
at least one hundred fortress maximus toys in that store that day I
saw the end cap. I think the toy was stocked in various places in the
store as it I saw it around christmas season in 1987. I remember the
toy being a major shelf warmer & getting reduced in price several
times to get rid of it.
TigerMegatron
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 21:37:40 -0800 (PST), TigerMegatron
>
Wanting something now because you could get it then. Isn't a good
enough reason to get anything now. Whenever I buy a OLD or NEW TF
toy,I carefully examine it & determine if it fits my desires of
today.
I also don't buy TF toys because their rare & might make back profits
on it in the future. I Just don't care about that sort of thing when I
collect TF toys. for me it's all about ther
design,sculpt,poseability,character,fiction & stability on a display
shelf.
honestly don't collect TF toys to make other fans jealous or envious.
like most TF fans do on those TF Moderated message boards. I could
care less about getting those lucky draw takara japanese items,rare
low volume repaints. getting stuff I don't like just because it's rare
& desirable just to say hey look at these pics,u-tube video just to be
"TF FAN KING" FOR A few hours/days/weeks/months/years.
I have zero interest in paying those guys over seas who steal new TF
toys in those factories. just to be the very first TF fan to own/play
with/take pic/review/do u-tube video on the internet.
For me buying Transformers is isn't a boasting/pissing contest. I buy
what I like & leave what I dis-like on the shelves for others. I don't
buy TF toys for future profit nor gather up the rare stuff to make
others jealous. it's just not my style. If I wanted to buy rare things
I'd buy solid gold bars. If I wanted to make the Botcon nerds fans
jealous,I'd walk into the convention with 2 hot colombian women.
primustf
> Can someone please explain to me why this is the holy grail must have
> TF toy for a TF fan???
Honestly Fort Max isn't my "Holy Grail". Would I like to have him?
Sure, but I would much rather get my hands on a G1 Megatron. (Closest
I ever got was a friend who went to Japan last summer and found and
bought the U.N.C.L.E. version complete with stickers un-applied)
primustf
Gustavo Wombat
G1 Megatron has been reissued enough that he should be available -- in
fact, bbts sells the orange tip version for $100. I don't know how
hard/easy it is to remove the tip, though.
Gustavo!
Craig Little
> On Dec 19, 10:37 pm, TigerMegatron <TigerMegat...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Can someone please explain to me why this is the holy grail must have
>> TF toy for a TF fan???
>
>
> Honestly Fort Max isn't my "Holy Grail". Would I like to have him? Sure,
That's kind of how I feel. My "holy grails" would be toys I used to own
as a kid: G1 Metroplex & G1 Scorponok.
--
Craig (Oh, and RID Omega Prime, but he's more of a slightly holy cup)
...Also Known As Thunder
> That's odd you only ever saw one fortress maximus on a store shelf.
It is, actually. I don't know why I never saw any others... it was
pretty damned expensive here though ($120 Cdn. at the time--and that was
1987!) And I came very close to buying it but my mom convinced me I
should spend my money on other stuff. None of the department stores at
the time here had them (except that one, obviously) and Toys R Us was
new to our city. It's possible TRU had some but I couldn't get there
much at the time so I can't be certain.
t.k.
...Also Known As Thunder
> Wanting something now because you could get it then. Isn't a good
> enough reason to get anything now.
Yes, it is. I would've had every single G1 toy ever if I could've
afforded them at the time (and also every GIJOE and maybe Star Wars
too). But there are limits on a what a kid can buy. If the same toy
comes along years later, you can afford it and still want it, why not
buy it?
t.k.
TigerMegatron
wrote:
Because as people get older their likes & dis-likes change radically.
I out grew plenty of TF toys I wanted & plenty I had.
...Also Known As Thunder
> Because as people get older their likes& dis-likes change radically.
Yes, but I said if someone still wants the toy later on then they should
buy it. If not, they won't.
t.k.
SteveD
>(Oh, and RID Omega Prime, but he's more of a slightly holy cup)
He's also surprisingly large, chunky, and heavy. Even if he's only
slightly over a foot tall, he's bulky (particularly with the Magnus
cab-chest and backpack). I'm continually surprised by how much space he
takes up on the shelf.
-SteveD
TigerMegatron
> On 20 Dec 2010 20:48:03 +0100, Craig Little <c_lit...@bmx.bom> wrote:
>
> >(Oh, and RID Omega Prime, but he's more of a slightly holy cup)
>
> He's also surprisingly large, chunky, and heavy. Even if he's only
> slightly over a foot tall, he's bulky (particularly with the Magnus
> cab-chest and backpack). I'm continually surprised by how much space he
> takes up on the shelf.
>
> -SteveD
I had the toy combined in omega prime mode for about a year on my
shelf. I decided that Rid ultra magnus & optimus prime look better in
their seperate individual robot mode.
Ka Faraq Gatri
>Fortress Maximus,I don't get why this is the holy grail for most TF
>fans,personally it's too big & embarrassing to be played with by adult
>aged TF fans. it's not very poseable. it's 2 feet tall & takes up way
>to much space. very heavy & tight to transform.
>
>Can someone please explain to me why this is the holy grail must have
>TF toy for a TF fan???
>
It's the largest general release TF made, which is a draw in itself.
Then there's the fact that it's one of the few playsets for TFs made,
and the only one that can remotely plausibly accomodate figures larger
than minibot/Legends/Micromaster/Scout size. True, he looks better
with little guys on him, but deluxe class figures (and their
ancestors) still look decent in conjunction with Max.
The lack of posability doesn't bother me. Actually, for a G1 toy its
posability is exceptional - how many G1 bots have working shoulders
_and_ elbows and hip joints? All he lacks is a swivel at the head
attachment point so you can move his head and knees that bend in the
right direction.
But the real draw for me is the altmodes - a command base/battle
station for the Autobots to populate.
>I honestly think the must get TF toys for adult aged TF fans are all
>the MP Transformers toys. as their true works of art & feature
>advanced sculpts,toy engineering,poseability & best updated homages to
>date.
I'm not a huge fan of the Masterpiece line. The only one I really love
is Grimlock, and that's because he's a good size to work with the
Classics type toys. The others are too out of scale with the other
mainline figures for my liking. Grimlock's also the truest to the
character - Prime is good in robot mode, but the truck is horrible.
(And don't get me started on the metal!) Starscream has the best jet
mode ever, but the robot mode is a bit too scrawny and flimsy.
Honestly, apart from Grimlock, I feel the Classic/Universe/Generations
versions are far better representations of the characters across the
board, at least when you factor in "bang for the buck". Classics Prime
is a much better $20 representation of Optimus than 20th Prime is a
$60 one (or however much he was). He's a better value. And MP
Starscream is a beautiful display piece, but I'd rather play with the
Classics toy. IMO only Grimlock really lives up to the name
"Masterpiece".
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