"Gold Plastic Syndrome" Question.
Sky Shadow
open him.
However, if Slogs suffer from Gold Plastic Syndrome (i.e. the sort of
brittleness that will make me want to cry) then I'd rather not put myself
through that sort of torment.
So if anyone has any experience with GPS Slogs (or Bristlebacks, for that
matter) could you please let me know? Maybe it's time we came up with a
comprehensive list of diseased GPS Transformers.
I know about Black Zarak, Pretender Roadblock and G2 Slingshot. Who else
needs to be quarantined?
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brittle plastic. They all have stress marks already.
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ZacWilliam05
>So if anyone has any experience with
>GPS Slogs (or Bristlebacks, for that
>matter)
That's a positive on Bristle back. I have
a broken one (along with a busted
Roadblock, Slingshot, and chiped Black
Zarak to attest to it.
-ZacWilliam, thinking "Gold Plastic
Smash" sounds like an 80's band.
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bad?
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Chris McFeely
> bad?
It's not gold colouring, it's plastic that is actually a golden colour. And
as to why it occurs, if I recall the explanation in an issue of The
Cybertronian right, it's because it was poorly mixed.
Chris
Douglas W. Dlin
[Quoting Ted Daniel]
That's pretty much it. Whether on purpose or by chance initially, the
gold glitter in the plastic wasn't mixed into it evenly, resulting in
the lighter and darker swirls in the gold plastic. As many have since
discovered, the darker swirls all too easily become fracture points.
Their integrity degrades very quickly, and the plastic simply crumbles apart.
Thankfully, my Slog, Bristleback and Electro have never given me any
trouble, but it's been years since I've taken them out of storage, too.
I know I transformed them numerous times soon after acquiring them,
though, and if they developed any stress fractures, I didn't notice.
Certainly, none of them ever fell apart. Now I'm afraid to touch them. :-S
Doug Dlin
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Sky Shadow
> Thankfully, my Slog, Bristleback and Electro have never given me any
> trouble, but it's been years since I've taken them out of storage, too.
> I know I transformed them numerous times soon after acquiring them,
> though, and if they developed any stress fractures, I didn't notice.
I've taken the risk with Slog, being very gentle, and no signs of tears yet.
I think the most concerning joint is where his entire gold monster body
pivots in order to form Monstructor. I have a Birdbrain somewhere, so it
would be nice to combine them, but Slog's toy (being the upper torso / head
combiner part) really emphasises just how small a Gestalt Monstructor must
be, which is kind of cool really. Is he taller or shorter than the
Micromaster Gestalts?
Interestingly, two people in this thread have expressed GPS concerns about
Laser Rod Electro, which contradicts what you yourself experienced with the
toy (and what you wrote in Cybertronian). Maybe it's the luck of the draw?
Also, some toys (e.g. Power Master Staxx) have the swirls in their gold
bits, but in what seems to be far more solid plastic. I assume that makes a
difference too.
Tom Walsh
> On Sep. 30, 2002, Chris McFeely wrote:
>
> [Quoting Ted Daniel]
>
>>> Why does this occur? Do u mean simply shiny gold coloring on the
>>> toy is bad?
>>
>> It's not gold colouring, it's plastic that is actually a golden
>> colour. And as to why it occurs, if I recall the explanation in an
>> issue of The Cybertronian right, it's because it was poorly mixed.
>
> That's pretty much it. Whether on purpose or by chance initially, the
> gold glitter in the plastic wasn't mixed into it evenly, resulting in
> the lighter and darker swirls in the gold plastic. As many have since
> discovered, the darker swirls all too easily become fracture points.
> Their integrity degrades very quickly, and the plastic simply
> crumbles apart.
So is it gold plastic in particular, or any plastic with glittery/swirly
bits in? One side of the blue plastic vehicle-mode 'neck' joint on my BM
Strika just...fell off... suddenly a couple of days ago, and I've had it
less than a week.... <cries> The gold plastic, ironically, is fine...could
this same phenomenon be to blame, or was I just being more cack-handed than
usual? Has this happened to anyone else? I welcome any evidence that it's
officially Not My Fault(tm) :)
Tom W.
Douglas W. Dlin
>
> "Douglas W. Dlin" wrote:
>
>> Thankfully, my Slog, Bristleback and Electro have never given me any
>> trouble, but it's been years since I've taken them out of storage,
>> too. I know I transformed them numerous times soon after acquiring
>> them, though, and if they developed any stress fractures, I didn't
>> notice.
>
> I've taken the risk with Slog, being very gentle, and no signs of
> tears yet. I think the most concerning joint is where his entire gold
> monster body pivots in order to form Monstructor.
You only need worry if a dark swirl or three go through the hinge joint.
> I have a Birdbrain somewhere, so it would be nice to combine them, but
> Slog's toy (being the upper torso/head combiner part) really
> emphasises just how small a Gestalt Monstructor must be, which is kind
> of cool really. Is he taller or shorter than the Micromaster
> Gestalts?
A wee bit smaller, I think, owing to the larger cheat-kibble for the
Micro-gestalts torsos and hips. IIRC, Monstructor's about Hot Rod's size.
> Interestingly, two people in this thread have expressed GPS concerns
> about Laser Rod Electro, which contradicts what you yourself
> experienced with the toy (and what you wrote in Cybertronian).
From what I and Harold have personally seen and heard of, Electro's gold
plastic seems more evenly mixed, lacking the danger-sign swirls.
However, it could be we've just been lucky. Or it could be the ones
who've mentioned having bad Electros have been unusually UNlucky.
> Maybe it's the luck of the draw?
Probably.
> Also, some toys (e.g. Power Master Staxx) have the swirls in their
> gold bits, but in what seems to be far more solid plastic. I assume
> that makes a difference too.
Could be. I've not kept up on those, so I can't say. I do know the gun
peg for Harold's Pyro figure recently just snapped off with barely any
pressure applied. :-P
Doug Dlin
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Douglas W. Dlin
>> Whether on purpose or by chance initially, the gold glitter in the
>> plastic wasn't mixed into it evenly, resulting in the lighter and
>> darker swirls in the gold plastic. As many have since discovered,
>> the darker swirls all too easily become fracture points. Their
>> integrity degrades very quickly, and the plastic simply crumbles
>> apart.
>
> So is it gold plastic in particular, or any plastic with glittery/
> swirly bits in?
Gold was about the only color plastic in which that swirly mix was used,
pretty much, so it's sorta been the only one by default.
> One side of the blue plastic vehicle-mode 'neck' joint on my BM Strika
> just...fell off... suddenly a couple of days ago, and I've had it less
> than a week.... <cries>
Ew. That's awful. I'm sorry to hear it.
> The gold plastic, ironically, is fine...could this same phenomenon be
> to blame, or was I just being more cack-handed than usual? Has this
> happened to anyone else? I welcome any evidence that it's officially
> Not My Fault(tm) :)
Afraid I can't offer you any definitive defense there. It could be you
got one of a bad batch, or you might have accidentally applied too much
pressure at just the wrong place. I know I've transformed my Strika
numerous times w/o incident, and I don't recall anyone else reporting
such a problem. However, considering we make up only a small fraction
of the buying market for Strika, there may very well have been other
people who had that trouble, but they simply weren't part of the a.t.t.
community and so didn't report it here.
Doug Dlin
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Zobovor
>Whether on purpose or by chance initially, the gold glitter in the plastic
>wasn't mixed into it evenly, resulting in the lighter and darker swirls in
>the gold plastic. As many have since discovered, the darker swirls all
>too easily become fracture points. Their integrity degrades very
>quickly, and the plastic simply crumbles apart.
I don't think it's *just* the poorly-mixed plastic alone that's the culprit,
actually, though that does seem to be part of it. I own plenty of other
Transformers with the same dark swirls in the mix (the silver-grey parts on
Blaster and Onslaught come to mind) and I've never had problems with them.
Besides, neither my G2 Slingshot nor my G2 Electro had any of those dark swirls
in evidence when they both broke.
My theory is that the tiny flecks of metal mixed inside the plastic that create
the sparkly effect serve to interfere with the molecular bond of the plastic.
Instead of plastic sticking to plastic, you've got plastic trying and failing
to stick to metal. I'm guessing that if you get a high enough concentration of
metal flecks in a single area, that tends to be the fracture point in the
plastic, much in the same way a fresh-baked chocolate chip cookie will fall
apart if there are too many chocolate chips in the center.
Unfortunately, online research hasn't yielded much in the way of useful
information related to this phenomenon. If anybody knows of a site that
addresses this specific aspect of plastic degradation, I'd be interested in
reading about it.
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Thomas Hamann
weird enough ('cause everyone knows fish don't talk), said:
>I have a MOC Pretender Monster Slog sitting on my desk, just begging me to
>open him.
>
>However, if Slogs suffer from Gold Plastic Syndrome (i.e. the sort of
>brittleness that will make me want to cry) then I'd rather not put myself
>through that sort of torment.
>
>So if anyone has any experience with GPS Slogs (or Bristlebacks, for that
>matter) could you please let me know? Maybe it's time we came up with a
>comprehensive list of diseased GPS Transformers.
>
far as I can see it is made from slightly differently colored plastic
than the crumbling gold plastic, and it doesn't crumble.
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