Stat. Pods
Tavis Hanson
Hello all, I was woundering about one question, when a status
pod comes crashing down on to the planet, does it start automaticaly
to program the protoform into a max, or does a programer have to be
present? The reason why I ask this is because when Tigertron became a
Max, he had to have a laser beam program his pod, but when Inferno
(Very big Ant) came down his pod seemed to start the Max programing w/
out any help. It was just interfered with preds to become a pred.
Neale Davidson
Tavis Hanson wrote in article <33a7a57...@news.ptialaska.net>...
Tigatron's pod was damaged and required manual programming. All
other statis pods seem capable of programming themselves, until
overridden by a Predacon chip.
Neale
(Who thinks that the Maimxals vs Pred debate is a lot closer to the
MAC versus PC debate?)
Gundam
tav...@ptialaska.net (Tavis Hanson) wrote:
> Hello all, I was woundering about one question, when a status
>pod comes crashing down on to the planet, does it start automaticaly
>to program the protoform into a max, or does a programer have to be
>present? The reason why I ask this is because when Tigertron became a
>Max, he had to have a laser beam program his pod, but when Inferno
>(Very big Ant) came down his pod seemed to start the Max programing w/
>out any help. It was just interfered with preds to become a pred.
Well Tigatron, and Inferno were two different cases. When Tigatron
came down his Stat.Pod was damaged. This could be the reason why the
DNA thing didn't kick in, but Inferno's came down unlike the other's
normally so his DNA com. was able to scan immediatly. The thing I
wonder is when the Stat. Pod for Tigatron came down [ or was it
Arachnina] any way they showed the window of the Pod and a robot was
shown, but in Inferno's, and Airrazor's case it was a strange gel like
thing.
Blurr
Neale Davidson wrote:
>
> Tigatron's pod was damaged and required manual programming. All
> other statis pods seem capable of programming themselves, until
> overridden by a Predacon chip.
>
>
You forgot AirRazor.Her pod was damaged and needed to be programed
manually.
Anthony
Sandalwood Ranger
Regarding a message from: tav...@ptialaska.net (Tavis Hanson)
> From: tav...@ptialaska.net (Tavis Hanson)
> Subject: Stat. Pods
> Organization: PTI Communications
> Hello all, I was woundering about one question, when a
> status pod comes crashing down on to the planet, does it
> start automaticaly to program the protoform into a max, or
> does a programer have to be present? The reason why I ask
> this is because when Tigertron became a Max, he had to have
> a laser beam program his pod, but when Inferno (Very big
> Ant) came down his pod seemed to start the Max programing w/
> out any help. It was just interfered with preds to become a
> pred.
Nearest as I can figure, it starts programming automatically unless the
pod is damaged. In Inferno's case it ran the root program, scanned it's
suroundings, used the Predacon chip to program personality, and scanned for
compatible lifeforms. In Tigertron's case the root programming was corrupted
so a new copy needed to be beamed from the Axalon.
The Sandalwood Ranger
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I thought the gel like form was just since Airazor was in such bad
shape. After they got here stabalized she went to a solid form
reminisicent of Megs in the first episode. This theory worked well
until I saw Spider's Game. I wonder if the theory is correct for
Airrazor and they thought it was cool and adopted it for Inferno.
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la...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> Gundam wrote:
> >
> > tav...@ptialaska.net (Tavis Hanson) wrote:
[interesting points snipped]
> I agree. And BTW, it's Stasis pod. But, yes, when Tigatron's pod
> opened,
> he stuck out an _arm_! Apparently, they didn't come up with the
> gel-like
> protoforms until Airazor.
> --Velociripper
Perhaps, due to the pod's damage, the pod automatically gave the
protoform inside a robot configuration that it might defend itself if
need be?
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Dan Davis
> Nearest as I can figure, it starts programming automatically unless the
> pod is damaged. In Inferno's case it ran the root program, scanned it's
> suroundings, used the Predacon chip to program personality, and scanned for
> compatible lifeforms. In Tigertron's case the root programming was corrupted
> so a new copy needed to be beamed from the Axalon.
>
> The Sandalwood Ranger
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A stasis pod automatically begins to program
a _Maximal_ - as long as its not damaged.
If the Preds want to corrupt it, they have to
physically get to the pod and alter the Maximal
programming chip inside.
Dan Davis
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> >pod comes crashing down on to the planet, does it start automaticaly
> >to program the protoform into a max, or does a programer have to be
> >present? The reason why I ask this is because when Tigertron became a
> >Max, he had to have a laser beam program his pod, but when Inferno
> >(Very big Ant) came down his pod seemed to start the Max programing w/
> >out any help. It was just interfered with preds to become a pred.
>
> came down his Stat.Pod was damaged. This could be the reason why the
> DNA thing didn't kick in, but Inferno's came down unlike the other's
> normally so his DNA com. was able to scan immediatly. The thing I
> wonder is when the Stat. Pod for Tigatron came down [ or was it
> Arachnina] any way they showed the window of the Pod and a robot was
> shown, but in Inferno's, and Airrazor's case it was a strange gel like
> thing.
A protoform is probably any thing that can be fasioned into a Beast
Warrior. The ActionMaster-like robots would be the crew that was placed
in the pods, while the gel could be a robot that has yet to be "born."
la...@ix.netcom.com
HighRoad wrote:
>
> In article <33A8E3...@netcom.ca>, Firebird <aut...@netcom.ca> wrote:
> >la...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Gundam wrote:
> >> >
> >> > tav...@ptialaska.net (Tavis Hanson) wrote:
> >> I agree. And BTW, it's Stasis pod. But, yes, when Tigatron's pod
> >> opened,
> >> he stuck out an _arm_! Apparently, they didn't come up with the
> >> gel-like
> >> protoforms until Airazor.
> >> --Velociripper
> >
> >Perhaps, due to the pod's damage, the pod automatically gave the
> >protoform inside a robot configuration that it might defend itself if
> >need be?
>
> few episodes. But the script I read said Optimus welcomed Tigatron, saying
> "Tigatron! We thought you wouldn't make it," or words to that effect.
>
> This could mean they thought he would be captured by Predacons. Or it could
> have meant Tigatron was a crew member in stasis, not just a new protoform.
> I got the impression somewhere along the line some of the pods were
> like that. Maybe having a life, for lack of better phrasing, affected his
> configuration.
>
> HighRoad
Nope. When Optimus greeted Tigatron, he said (not exact quote),
"Tigatron, is it?" with a questioning tone of voice. Since all of the
chars (except OP and Megs) chose new names when they received their new
beast forms to match these forms, Tigatron had just chosen his name.
While he did say "Tigatron, maximize," OP was far away and incoming when
that happened. Maybe old Oppy has better hearing than he's letting
on...
:)
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Patrick Thompson
HighRoad wrote:
>
> In article <33A8E3...@netcom.ca>, Firebird <aut...@netcom.ca> wrote:
> >la...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Gundam wrote:
> >> >
> >> > tav...@ptialaska.net (Tavis Hanson) wrote:
>But the script I read said Optimus welcomed Tigatron, saying
> "Tigatron! We thought you wouldn't make it," or words to that effect.
>
> This could mean they thought he would be captured by Predacons. Or it could
> have meant Tigatron was a crew member in stasis, not just a new protoform.
> I got the impression somewhere along the line some of the pods were
> like that. Maybe having a life, for lack of better phrasing, affected his
> configuration.
>
> HighRoad
Sounds like a good working theory-Tigatron seemed to have an established
personality that was changed by the damage to his software in the crash,
while Airazor seemed like an inexperienced young child initially and
Inferno had no personality apart from his psycho beast instincts, so
they were more likely first "born" when the pod landed. We know the
pods cn support an active bot for at least a short time, since Op
survived the trip into orbit and Tarantulas felt the pods would be good
for long distance trips with the addition of a warp cell. I'd say
Tigatron was likely in Stasis lock until the pod landed and gave him a
tiger form automatically. (apparently Op or Rhinox had time to reprogram
all the pods to do so as the Axalon crashed.
Here's an interesting idea...would the pods work as a field CR
chamber/medic station? They obviously have enough systems to build a bot
from a protoform, and they have enough life support to make it into
orbit...if there was a way to get them to the scene they could be
useful...Tigatron would be well served to have one by his Arctic sentry
post, if it was repaired after "The Trigger."
DiTillio
About Stasis Pods... Stasis Pods are designed to carry protoform
Transformers on long range missions. This is to save energy and space and
have a contingent of explorers who can be set down on a planet of interest
to the Cybertrons, blend in with the local populace/flora/fauna/machine
life etc. do a detailed survey and possibly even establish a colony,
mining operation etc.
Protoform consist of a hard metal superstructure surrounded by what looks
like a grey gel but is in reality millions of itty bitty machines, capable
of replicating and assuming most forms of life. In roughly the center of
the protoform is the Spark which gives the protoform sentience.
The pod itself is little more than massive banks of computers, surrounded
by a protective shell. It lands and it does its job.
Ideally, this job is simple to send out a DNA scan, find a comptabile
lifeform and give the protoform its first "Transforming" identity. In the
event no such lifeform is found, the protoform eitther remains in stasis
or in extreme cases takes a kind of generic robotic form.
The secret to the protoform identity is in the programming chip. In the
case of a Maximal stasis pod, this chip provides pre-programmed knowledge
of Cybertron and the Maximals as a race. When (as in Spider's Game) a
Pred reaches the pod, if he or she is technologically competent and has
the right components, The Maximal chip can be overriden with a "shell"
program which makes the protoform believe it is a Predacon. On Beast
Wars, only Megatron, Tarantulas and POSSIBLY Blackarachnia have the skill
to pull this off (oh and by the way, if an attempt is made to remove the
shell program, there is a failsafe which will destroy the converted Pred's
systems.)
Rhinox could POSSIBLY restore a converted Pred, given the right equipment
and time, but it would be a very dangerous effort.
In the case of our show, several of our on-planet warriors were born with
what you could call" Birth defects" due to malfunctioning systems in the
Pods. This was pretty clearly shown in "The Spark" but also applies to
Tigatron coming on-line.
Pods also have built-in signal functions which generally enable them to be
tracked by their owners. On the Beast Wars planet, the energon fields
basically prevented this.
In "Other Voices" all of the orbiting pods got hit by the solar/energon
burst which began superheating the planet. This brought them all down and
scattered them around the planet. The majority of them were destroyed and
those that are left are pretty badly damaged.
Stasis pods on their own cannot make Transwarp jumps, their structure is
too flimsy and they would simply be torn apart. Tarantulas was taking a
risky gamble in his attempt to leave the planet but was convinced he could
do it and he certainly has the technological skill.
Pods can't be used as repair chambers and they cannot create protoforms.
Protoforms come from two vast complexes back on Cybertron, one is called
The Matrix, the other the Pit (well originally we called it The Inferno,
but then Hasbro could only come up with the name Inferno for ole blender
butt and we bit the bullet and changed it to avoid confusion)...
Anyway, that ought to give you fanatics something to chew on...
Now I have to go away and write episodes 32 and 33...
see ya.
Larry DiTillio
Story Editor - Beast Wars
Phil Poole
DiTillio (diti...@aol.com) wrote:
Lots of good info deleted...but something of interest remains below:
: In "Other Voices" all of the orbiting pods got hit by the solar/energon
: burst which began superheating the planet. This brought them all down and
: scattered them around the planet. The majority of them were destroyed and
: those that are left are pretty badly damaged.
Larry,
Surely not ALL stasis pods crashed. Surely there are
still SOME in orbit that were protected by the BW planet
or were orbiting on the far side of the planet directly
oposite the moon(s).
I mean there has to be at least 1 plot point for additional
BW Characters for seasons 3 and 4...just assuredly
season 2 is not going to introduce ALL of the newest
characters in stores.
Does this also mean that there could currently be
damaged pods in orbit ?
Through the plot device of damaged pods could we possibly
see a third sector of BW arise consisting of Mercenaries or
Pacifists ?
: Pods can't be used as repair chambers and they cannot create protoforms.
: Protoforms come from two vast complexes back on Cybertron, one is called
: The Matrix, the other the Pit (well originally we called it The Inferno,
: but then Hasbro could only come up with the name Inferno for ole blender
: butt and we bit the bullet and changed it to avoid confusion)...
Ok..so does that mean the references to "The Matrix" were
simply referring to the production plant or are those
"Matrix" references directed towards our nifty little
Autobot night-light/Planet Killer ?
Hmm...Just thought of a new product...a Matrix Night-lite.
Any takers ?
But I digress, the Pit that you mentioned is that referencing the
Smelting Pit from TF Comics 17 & 18 ?
That'd be pretty cool.
Thanks for the information.
: see ya.
Later.
: Larry DiTillio
: Story Editor - Beast Wars
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So what your saying is stasis pods are incubater/storage devices for
new(Un-Born)Transformers correct?
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Blurr
DiTillio wrote:
>
> Okay I'll try to answer most of the queries generated;
>
> A) When Maximal characters say "By the Matrix" they are referring to the
> Creation Matrix and the complex in which protoforms are produced. When
> Preds say "By the Pit" they are referring to the complex which produces
> pred protoforms. Both complexes came from the Creation Matrix, shortly
> after the end of the Great War when --- nah, THAT WOULD BE TELLING SECRETS
> which are not meant to be revealed just yet.
So basically the Preds have a Creation Matrux of their own,right???I love secrets
(hey Larry,you can trust me,I won't tell anyone ;) )
>
> B) Only Maximals and Predacons use the protoform technology. They are the
> first generation of this new technology. AutoBots and Decepticons carry
> on largely as they once did, with a few changes.
So the AutoBots and Decepticons are still alive!!!!!!!!You say with a few
changes,does this mean they will be introduced in the show somehow???
>
> C) Yes Stasis Pods are indeed incubators/protective devices for unborn
> Transformers.
>
That's what I though ;)
> And that ought to give you even more stuff to try and figure out...
>
I'm trying :)
Anthony
Lewis M. Brooks, III
In article <19970627002...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) writes:
> Okay I'll try to answer most of the queries generated;
>
> A) When Maximal characters say "By the Matrix" they are referring to the
> Creation Matrix and the complex in which protoforms are produced. When
> Preds say "By the Pit" they are referring to the complex which produces
> pred protoforms. Both complexes came from the Creation Matrix, shortly
> after the end of the Great War when --- nah, THAT WOULD BE TELLING SECRETS
> which are not meant to be revealed just yet.
You can't just drop that!!! Well you can, but it's not fair.
> B) Only Maximals and Predacons use the protoform technology. They are the
> first generation of this new technology. AutoBots and Decepticons carry
> on largely as they once did, with a few changes.
I don't suppose we'll find out what thoes changes are anytime soon, huh? I
didn't think so.
> C) Yes Stasis Pods are indeed incubators/protective devices for unborn
> Transformers.
Well, does that mean that a transformer, or two transformers, could get a
protoform, use their personalities as a basis for the new personality, and
effectively have a child?
Lewis
Neale Davidson
DiTillio wrote in article <19970627201...@ladder01.news.aol.com>..
.
>Well does that mean a Transformer or two Transformers could get a
>protoform and use their personalities as a matrix for it thus having a
>child?...
>
>Nice try, but NO.... The Spark dictates the personality and it is
>incomprehensible to anyone but the owner.
That, of course, leaves the question of how Sparx are generated in the
first place. The possibilities include the Matrix (which SHOULD still be
expended), Vector Sigma, or a form of sexual reproduction. Considering
how much influence that the humans have had on the Transformers,
any of these options are viable.
Neale
Lewis M. Brooks, III
In article <19970627201...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) writes:
> Well does that mean a Transformer or two Transformers could get a
> protoform and use their personalities as a matrix for it thus having a
> child?...
>
> Nice try, but NO.... The Spark dictates the personality and it is
> incomprehensible to anyone but the owner.
But, as we've seen, a spark can be changed to be Predacon from maximal. If you
can change something so fundamental to it's personality, couldn't you
effectively reprogem the entire personality?
Lewis
Devastator
> The pod itself is little more than massive banks of computers, surrounded
> by a protective shell. It lands and it does its job.
> life form and give the protoform its first "Transforming" identity.
You know, the general idea of stasis pods seems all too familiar.
Remember the origin of the Insecticons? A pod from Cybertron crash
landed on Earth. The internal computers reconfigured the beings inside
into forms that would best suit the environment.
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Dear Lewis:
When you talk about repgrogramming a Spark, you're talking about delving
into the mysteries of the soul and trying to solve them with a users
manual. Ain't gonna happen...
Indeed Maximals reprogrammed into Predacons are not REALLY Predacons.
They are Maximals who have had a shift in Alliance forced upon them. In
effect, they are Preds, but deep down the Spark is still Maximal (which
may explain much of the behavior of certain Preds)...
Spirit is a different thing than personality. All personalities are
programmed to some extent by situation and circumstance. Change the
situation and circumstance and the personality changes (e.g. a recovering
drug addict, alcoholic etc.)... The soul on the other hand is an
immutable quantity, not subject to situation and circumstance. As it is
with humans, so it is with Transformers.
cynd...@epix.net
You said the sparks are either created by the Matrix or the Pit.So did
the Quints or Primus devise this method or are you going to offer a new
origin for BW's,or ignore the whole subject completely.Hasbro has
certainly opened the door by refering to BW Grimlock as the ex-leader
of the original Dinobots(On his tech specs)
Hmmm...I guess Grimlock would then replace Kup as the story teller.
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Next Is the Bee
Neale Davidson <nea...@erols.com> wrote:
> DiTillio wrote in article <19970627201...@ladder01.news.aol.com>..
> .
> >Well does that mean a Transformer or two Transformers could get a
> >protoform and use their personalities as a matrix for it thus having a
> >child?...
> >
> >Nice try, but NO.... The Spark dictates the personality and it is
> >incomprehensible to anyone but the owner.
> That, of course, leaves the question of how Sparx are generated in the
> first place. The possibilities include the Matrix (which SHOULD still be
> expended), Vector Sigma, or a form of sexual reproduction. Considering
> how much influence that the humans have had on the Transformers,
> any of these options are viable.
The sexual reproduction option is NOT a viable option, for we've been told
that the Transformers do not have sexual relationships.
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Lewis M. Brooks, III <BROO...@rhea.bentley.edu> wrote:
> diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) writes:
> > Well does that mean a Transformer or two Transformers could get a
> > protoform and use their personalities as a matrix for it thus having a
> > child?...
> >
> > Nice try, but NO.... The Spark dictates the personality and it is
> > incomprehensible to anyone but the owner.
> But, as we've seen, a spark can be changed to be Predacon from maximal.
> If you can change something so fundamental to it's personality, couldn't
> you effectively reprogem the entire personality?
No. That's what Larry meant by 'shell program.' The basic personality
remains intact; nothing about that changes. The shell program runs OVER
the basic personality and makes the Maximal protoform into a Predacon. In
other words, Inferno would have been just as much a badass had he turned
out a Maximal as intended. He wouldn't have been a psycho, though, for, as
far as I can tell, that damage was done when Tarantulas hot-swapped the
program chip in the stasis pod at a bad time.
Neale Davidson
> That, of course, leaves the question of how Sparx are generated in the
>> first place. The possibilities include the Matrix (which SHOULD still
be
>> expended), Vector Sigma, or a form of sexual reproduction. Considering
>> how much influence that the humans have had on the Transformers,
>> any of these options are viable.
>
>The sexual reproduction option is NOT a viable option, for we've been
told
>that the Transformers do not have sexual relationships.
You're assuming a PHYSICAL sexual reproduction. I never said that...
In fact, given what we know from various sources, it seems that there
are two parts to a Transformer's mind, the base program and a learning
program. In essence, the Learning Program determines if a Maximal
becomes a Pred.
Wouldn't it then be possible to cull a base program from a 'male' source,
and a learning program from a 'female' source? Also, since the Protoforms
are a NEW technology, who is to say that humans didn't have a large
influence upon it?
Neale
Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews
This sortof makes sense. Like Inferno's behaviour when he made his first
appearance - the reason he attacked the Tigatron is simply because he
viewed Tigatron as a threat to 'the colony'. Whereas Blackarachnia
presented herself as one who is if not a member, at least one who is
friendly to 'the colony'.
Couple this with reprogramming instructing him that he _is_ a Predacon and
that Predacons are his allies and Maximals are his enemies, and it's no
wonder he's on the 'bad guys' side.
BTW, I just also wanted to say that Inferno is one of the best characters
I've seen on TV in a l-o-n-g time.
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Lewis M. Brooks, III wrote:
>
> In article <19970628205...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) writes:
> > Dear Lewis:
> >
> > When you talk about repgrogramming a Spark, you're talking about delving
> > into the mysteries of the soul and trying to solve them with a users
> > manual. Ain't gonna happen...
> >
> > Indeed Maximals reprogrammed into Predacons are not REALLY Predacons.
> > They are Maximals who have had a shift in Alliance forced upon them. In
> > effect, they are Preds, but deep down the Spark is still Maximal (which
> > may explain much of the behavior of certain Preds)...
>
> we have seen a lot of Blackarachnia, and it does not seem to me that their is a
> bit of Maximal in her. Just my opinion, but that does not seem to be a forced
> change.
> Maybe BA doesn't possess Maximal moral programming but I believe the more
treacherous parts of her personality are derived from her instinctive
Maximal programming and racial distrust of Predacons.
OTOH, Inferno's deep loyalty and unquestioning servitude probably stems
from HIS original Maximal programming. Aside from his obvious insanity (a
result of a botched reprogramming?, Inferno possesses many traits common
to Maximals...like courage, loyalty, and dedication to a cause. He's the
only Predacon who does his job because he BELIEVES in it...not because
he's been threatened, blackmailed, coerced, or promised power or personal
gain.
-Star Saber
Lewis M. Brooks, III
In article <19970628205...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) writes:
> Dear Lewis:
>
> When you talk about repgrogramming a Spark, you're talking about delving
> into the mysteries of the soul and trying to solve them with a users
> manual. Ain't gonna happen...
>
> Indeed Maximals reprogrammed into Predacons are not REALLY Predacons.
> They are Maximals who have had a shift in Alliance forced upon them. In
> effect, they are Preds, but deep down the Spark is still Maximal (which
> may explain much of the behavior of certain Preds)...
Well, as I recall, only Inferno and Blackarachnia came from stasis pods. Now,
we have seen a lot of Blackarachnia, and it does not seem to me that their is a
bit of Maximal in her. Just my opinion, but that does not seem to be a forced
change.
Lewis
Anthony "Tonyfitz" Brucale
>
> If any Predacon was to convert it would be Inferno. More or less
> because he's still a Maxamal. I think the data was already inplanted
> in him, just wqas confused and think's that Megatron is...well let's
> just say it's like the Transformer episode "Fire in the Sky" where the
> Decpticon's freed Sky Fire.
>
That's right!...beside I think inferno IS the inferno from G1...he went
insane during reprogramming and doesn't know what the hell he is!!!
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Lewis M. Brooks, III
In article <01bc870a$ce177dc0$6e32...@262150725worldnet.att.net>, "Anthony \"Tonyfitz\" Brucale" <Tony...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>> If any Predacon was to convert it would be Inferno. More or less
>> because he's still a Maxamal. I think the data was already inplanted
>> in him, just wqas confused and think's that Megatron is...well let's
>> just say it's like the Transformer episode "Fire in the Sky" where the
>> Decpticon's freed Sky Fire.
> That's right!...beside I think inferno IS the inferno from G1...he went
> insane during reprogramming and doesn't know what the hell he is!!!
Not possible of these sparks are suppsoed to be NEW entities, and not
temporarily sut down old ones.
Lewis
Jonathan McDougall and/or Melissa Andrews
>
> But Grimlock isn't a new entity and it says so on his new tech spec...so
Yeah but that's the _toys_ which are a different continuity than the TV show.
Optimus_Koosh!
Well, I'm not quite sure about this, but when Tigatron landed, his
Memory(?) circuits or Identity (yeah, that's it!) were damaged. Does this
mean that he had an identity before landing, or is that identity just
whether he was a maximal or predacon, since he said something like "I
wasn't sure who I was or..." blah blah blah.
ok, thanks for listening!
-Optimus_Koosh!
ha...@cadvison.com
Firebird
Wazzpin8or wrote:
>
> A question occured to me about the Maximals who were turned into Preds, do
> they KNOW that they are actually Maximals? Well, I'm sure Inferno doesn't
> know, since he's all screwy, but what about Black Arachnia? Is she aware
> of the fact that she is a Maximal who has been reprogammed into a
> Predacon, or is part of the reprogramming designed to make them think that
> they've been Predacons all along?
>
> Michael Kilborn McCarthy, known simply as Kil.
Blackarachnia is aware that the stasis pods in orbit are Maximal stasis
pods, and she's undoubtedly aware that *she* came from a stasis pod, so
I would say yes, she does know. Especially since she was there when
Tarantulas reprogrammed Inferno.
Inferno, on the other hand, is 'all screwy' as you say. He also thinks
he's an ant. You just *know* right off the guy's got problems.
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Earlwin
On 25 Jun 1997 19:24:28 GMT, diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) wrote:
>Ideally, this job is simple to send out a DNA scan, find a comptabile
>lifeform and give the protoform its first "Transforming" identity. In the
>event no such lifeform is found, the protoform eitther remains in stasis
>or in extreme cases takes a kind of generic robotic form.
>
I understand that it is appropriate to use the phrase "DNA scan" to
scan a lifeform. However, this phrase or term, "DNA scan," isn't
always that applicable to some "compatible" local structures in the
surrounding vicinity. All I'm saying is, I suggest you reconsider the
phrase/term "DNA scan." Do you agree? Or, is this matter too early
to worry about?
Earlwin
Earlwin
On 27 Jun 97 17:59:57 EDT, BROO...@rhea.bentley.edu (Lewis M. Brooks,
III) wrote:
>In article <19970627201...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, diti...@aol.com (DiTillio) writes:
>> Well does that mean a Transformer or two Transformers could get a
>> protoform and use their personalities as a matrix for it thus having a
>> child?...
>>
>> Nice try, but NO.... The Spark dictates the personality and it is
>> incomprehensible to anyone but the owner.
>
>But, as we've seen, a spark can be changed to be Predacon from maximal. If you
>can change something so fundamental to it's personality, couldn't you
>effectively reprogem the entire personality?
>
The Predacons, as seen in "Dark Designs," are capable of changing a
TF's personality. Unfortunately for the Preds, they had a slight
problem with Rhinox.
I think you can also correlate the G1 episode "Changing Gears" to this
subject. However, G1 technology was more "primitive" compared to this
new series of BW.
Earlwin