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Zepherimus

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Why did the Autobots and Decepticons in the Ark have Alt mode kibble , They
couldn't have scanned any vehicles on Primitive earth. Prime looks like a
Semi , just like he always did. Was this a Mainframe mistake or did they
already look like that then made the alt modes to fit around them ?

Zepherimus
Who wouldn't ask so many questions if he could remember G1

John R. Sellers

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Nov 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/8/99
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I don't remember, so I'll take my best shot here.

My guess is they looked that way--in robot mode--even on Cybertron, before
they came to earth. I DO seem to remember that Bumblebee's robot mode was
exactly the same on Cybertron as it was on earth, even though his vehicle
mode on 20th century earth was a Volkswagon(made that way by Teletran 1).

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Jay Laney

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Nov 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/8/99
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Yes, in MTMTE, they already had all the alt mode kibble while still on
Cybertron.

-Jay Laney
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John R. Sellers

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Ok, I'll bite. What the hell is alt mode kibble? Sounds like a sidedish
for my doggybot.

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Galvatron77

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When G1 the first episode was made.... when the autobots wer eon cybertron
before coming to earth and crashing, they looked (in robot mode) just like they
did after their alternate modes were instituted... (optimus ALWAYS looked like
a semi)... why did they do this instead of having "legitimate" "old" modes????
my guess is that the writers were too damn lazy to make up a "mode" for all the
characters considering it would only be used for one episode. Now the
"BeastWars" people had to use the "truck" ,mode for OP because in the old G1
episode (first one) OP looked like a semi even before the was "made into an
alternate mode".... basically, they are repeating the mistake of the old G1
writers in an effort to keep continuity in the series legend

Brian B.

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>Ok, I'll bite. What the hell is alt mode kibble? Sounds like a sidedish
>for my doggybot.

Uhm, to sum it up in a quick two words?
"Beast Mode."

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Straight-Edge

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>Ok, I'll bite. What the hell is alt mode kibble? Sounds like a sidedish
>for my doggybot.

It means pieces of the alternate mode (Beast mode, vehicle mode) being not only
visible, but actually hanging off the robot body. IE the Doors hanging off of
Prowl's shoulders, and the Crab Legs/Claws on Rampage's robot mode. They are
not part of an anthropomorphic robot, hence they are kibble.

Straight-Edge (Now Trademarked by Lanard Toys)

John R. Sellers

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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Sounds logical.

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Adrian Romanelli

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Actually, I thought I remembered a G1 episode where Bumblebee is on (or
talking about when he was on) Cybertron, before leaving on the Ark, and they
showed his vehicle mode as a Volkswagen bug like vehicle with wings that
flew/leviatated along the ground.

"John R. Sellers" wrote:
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> I don't remember, so I'll take my best shot here.
>
> My guess is they looked that way--in robot mode--even on Cybertron, before
> they came to earth. I DO seem to remember that Bumblebee's robot mode was
> exactly the same on Cybertron as it was on earth, even though his vehicle
> mode on 20th century earth was a Volkswagon(made that way by Teletran 1).
>

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> able to see clearly how utterly inadequate that intelligence is when
> confronted with what exists." -- Albert Einstein
>

John R. Sellers

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Now that you mention it, I think was supposed to be some sort of one-man
hovercraft.

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ShadowWing

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Adrian Romanelli wrote in message <3828AD6C...@gte.net>...

>Actually, I thought I remembered a G1 episode where Bumblebee is on (or
>talking about when he was on) Cybertron, before leaving on the Ark, and
they
>showed his vehicle mode as a Volkswagen bug like vehicle with wings that
>flew/leviatated along the ground.


Bumblebee, Wheeljack, Jazz, the seeker jets, Soundwave, and Laserbeak
were shown in vehicle mode in MTMTE. Bumblebee was some kind of hovercraft,
Wheeljack was kind of like a Cybertron van (probably a transport), the
seekers were flying pyramids, Jazz was a racer or something (actually, Jazz
is the only Earth TF who's Cybertron mode appears in Marvel's Transformer
Universe Guides), Soudwave was a tower, and Laserbeak was some kind of alien
bird. (It appears in the toon version, the cassettes are the "normal" mode
and the robot animal is the alt mode, which is countered by Rumble and
Frenzy.)

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