On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 10:34:11 AM UTC-4, Zobovor wrote:
> We get a roughly 45-second recap of previous events up to this point, though by now they're playing fast and loose with the continuity of the episodes. The recap utilizes a fair amount of footage from the episode we haven't watched yet, though, so the contention is that at the end of the last episode, Megatron and Starscream showed up on Cybertron and blasted the crap out of Brawn. Suffice to say, this never happened. Scenes are also cut together to make it look like Bumblebee was hanging off the summit of the Autobot volcano base and plummeted into the magma. It's amazing what kind of alternate storytelling they can create just by rearranging the order of some footage!
Yes I've noticed there's an awful lot of "fake news" in the recaps. My favorite example is in the Teletraan 2 file on the Decepticons in Season 3, they splice together footage of Autobot Spike with War Dawn. They make it look like Prime is providing cover fire for fleeing humans while Megatron, Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker attack from the air. If it wasn't for that pesky background from War Dawn (the shattered dome shaped building) it would be pretty seamless. Still makes for a dynamic scene!
>It's only about three or four seconds' worth of footage, but the animation is so smooth and fluid and expertly done, and it remains one of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
Yeah, it's a cool scene. I also love the way Brawn then whips around and blasts Soundwave with zero hesitation. I like Soundwave (who doesn't?) but as a kid it always seemed to me like he got off easy in most battles. So it's cool to see him take his medicine occasionally and get shot like everyone else. (May Raksha forgive me if she's somewhere reading this!)
> Shockwave orders Sparkplug to block the door and prevent Spike's escape, and he does so obediently. It looks like Shockwave is ready to just blast them both
Ah, I didn't catch that part. But now that you mention it, Shockwave would've had no logical hang-up about vaporizing Sparkplug then and there. Did they even need him for anything at that point? It seems like they were still keeping him around solely to troll the Autbots (and knowing Megatron, that might've been reason enough).
>Now, Skyfire's G1 toy (marketed as Jetfire) was roughly the same size as the Shockwave toy, and I think they were sold at close to the same price point, so I had always considered them rivals.
That, and they starred in a commercial together. Speaking of poor Skyfire, his cartoon career is already almost over at this point isn't it? Going from memory, doesn't he only appear after this in Day of the Machines and a possible cameo in Dark Awakening (where if it really is him and not some generic, he freakin' DIES)?
> Finally, this trilogy found its cool factor! Well, better late than never, right? The Autobot escape from the Decepticon base is really cool. I don't know why it took so long for them to find their groove.
It's amazing how the show seems more alive in that 2 minute car/jet chase than it has in almost the whole trilogy so far. One thing that always frustrates me about a lot of TF fiction is how badly it undersells the inherent coolness of both the characters and the concept. When the back of the box had much cooler action scenes than the the cartoons or the comics did a lot of the time, that's not really a good thing.
> Anyway, two jets identical to Starscream and Thundercracker are standing guard when the Autobots blast open an exit to the Decepticon base and scurry away. A couple of Cybertronic-style Decepticon jets pursue them, the same forms Thundercracker and Skywarp appeared in during "More Than Meets the Eye" part 1, and the same type of jets who dropped acid rain on the Autobots in "Divide and Conquer." It's nice that they were consistent about using these Cybertronic forms, since they sometimes forgot these vehicles existed ("Fire in the Sky" being perhaps the most egregious example).
I've seen the character model for Starscream in "tetrajet" mode somewhere online before too, so it's not like they didn't have it...
>It takes a panicked Bluestreak to start babbling at them incessantly to alert them to the potential problem. It's a really surreal moment for this show. (I also find the physics impossible of Bluestreak rushing ahead of the others on his surfboard, but at this point that's neither here nor there.)
Bluestreak is a Surfmaster, and it was actually his board (a sentient being) that was doing the panicking. ;)
> Elsewhere, the Decepticons are working on an energy-collecting sea funnel. Rumble deliberately trips one of the human slaves and then admonishes him for being lazy. Rumble's such a delightfully evil character. He's unabashedly a bully and a punk and makes no apology for it.
He really is. He strikes me as the type to pull humans apart off-camera just for kicks. That's why I always enjoy when Skywarp bullies him around in turn, because he richly deserves it.
> The Autobots are now on the run. "I'll get the door," Brawn promises as he proceeds to plow through it at a full speed, smashing it to bits. It's a great moment, perhaps the funniest of the episode.
Yep. Brawn is a fun character in this episode.
>Even the stoic Brawn is forced to agree with the sentiment. "Mushy, but true," he says.
Hidden depths? He seems to be more remembered by the fandom though for wanting to stuff Perceptor into a locker and take his lunch money in Microbots.
> Megatron stumbles onto this secret experiment, declares Starscream a mutineer, and threatens to destroy him. It's a rare moment before we cut to commercial when it's a Decepticon who is in jeopardy, not an Autobot, but it plays as suspenseful enough that we can pause for a moment on this cliffhanger. (Starscream is arguably the most sympathetic Decepticon to the audience, so it's kind of cool that they structured the episode this way.)
Is he the most sympathetic though? I love Starscream, he's one of my favorite characters. But for me, his appeal was always as "the most evil guy on the evil team". Hell, he's willing to blow them all up along with our planet in the very next episode. Thundercracker should really be the most sympathetic, but the poor guy never got to say or do anything besides stand around and look pretty.
But to your larger point, yes I do think it's cool that they structured this as a suspenseful enough moment to warrant cutting to commercial. Lots of "Decepticon in peril" moments in Webworld too, if only be default.
>"I'll mow you down!" Cliffjumper promises while taking potshots at the Decepticons from behind a rock. "Easy, kid," Ironhide admonishes him. "The battle's just begun!" The relative ages of the different characters has always interested me. We don't always get a lot of information on the show about who's older and who's younger. Older characters seem to include Kup and Ironhide and Thundercracker and Blitzwing and Octane. We don't have as much information about younger characters. It's interesting that Cliffjumper is among them. It would certainly explain his impulsive nature.
I had totally forgotten about Ironhide calling him a kid until I re-watched this for my review. It makes total sense though; he certainly is a "turbo-revvin young punk" to borrow a phrase. So he'd either be a kid or have some crippling psychological flaws, and I guess being a kid is more flattering. Why can't he be better behaved, like that well behaved Bumblebee? Such a nice young man!
>(Watch the goofy guy in the striped shirt and glasses as he throws his energon cube to the ground and runs off. Looks like Where's Waldo is ready to make an appearance on The Biggest Loser.)
I caught him too. Since we know all humans in the Sunbow-verse wear either hardhats or labcoats, this unfortunately makes him an animation error. :P
> An incensed Megatron leaps into the air, transforms, and fires himself in gun mode at Skyfire while in mid-air. (He does this during every episode of the first season, at least in the title sequence, but he's never done this before in the series proper, and will never do it again.) Kind of makes you wonder why he even bothers to have other characters carry him in all those other episodes!
I think just because he's more accurate when someone aims him. He probably has a lot of kickback (not Kickback) when he lets off a full power shot.
In my headcanon his original alt mode was a mounted tripodal canon not too different from Galvatron's, and if anything Unicron restored his alt mode to be closer to what it originally was.
>Instead of communicating this plan to the others, though, Prowl and Spike just wait for Optimus Prime to catch up and realize what's going on.
I watched that part and couldn't believe what I was seeing. Poor communication kills, guys. We know Spike is not the sharpest tool in the shed but Prowl? Maybe he's just a jerk.
?Cybertron moves out of orbit, and the encroaching tidal wave just flops into non-existence, because this is how tidal waves work.
The wave was sent into sub-space. There was a quantam surge. Or something.
>(Weirdly, though, when they did it with G.I. Joe, it made for really compelling storytelling. Just goes to show you that what's good for the goose isn't always good for the gander.)
G.I. Joe certainly had more likable human characters. I mean, you'd kind of expect it to by default, but still. In fact, what I am about to say may be heresy around these parts but I would say Joe had more likable characters in general. The IDEA of most of these Transformer characters is fantastic, but...let's say the execution is often off. Way off. That's just me though.
> While this is officially a three-part episode, "Countdown to Extinction" continues the story of Dr. Arkeville and takes place right where this episode leaves off, so in some ways it's part four of the story. I expect to see you all here next month to talk about it!
I'll be there! I remember liking Countdown a lot more than these ones.
> Zob (not gonna watch this trilogy again for a loooooooong time)
Agreed.