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Chopper Face

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Apr 20, 2001, 11:55:53 AM4/20/01
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This is something which has always interested me. What's the deal with
Transformer sexuality?

We don't ever really see any Transformers mention their parents or
children. So how do they reproduce? Is there sex involved? I like
to think so.

In the comic continuity there's this whole thing with Primus and stuff
that explains where TFs are made. Whatever. The comic sucks hot man
chowder so let's not get into that.

In G1 there's that episode where Megs goes to vector sigma and gets
"souls" for his new decepticons. This certianly seems to suggest that
there is no need for intercourse as well... well that would certainly
suck...

But there is so much proof that sexuality must exist on Cybertron.
What about the women? I'm talking Elita-1 and Arcee... sweet sweet
Arcee (btw if I post porno of Arcee would it be taken down?) ...
anyway... why have chicks if there's no sexual procreation. The only
reason for any species or earth to have gender differences is for
reproduction.

Now I don't know all that much about Elita-1 so maybe someone can fill
in the gaps for me but it seems that she was Optimus's slice of poon.
His piece he would get while not scouring the Universe

Then there's Arcee. So what's her deal? I think this chick i sso hot
that... I'd arc weld a car frame to myself just to get the chance to
smell her hair... well her metal bagel head things. Anyway she's so
obviously banging Daniel. As if the alusions in TF:TM weren't strong
enough then we've got the insanely perverse headmasters series. "I
feel you inside me"... damn that's HOT!! Now I appreciate that Arcee
is playing for the human team. This gives me hope. I mean if I can
ever get past the whole fact/fantasy barrier that separates us then
she's just that much more likely to give it up to me. I just feel for
the other bots. I mean... there are NO chicks around. So then
finally one comes along and she decides to shack up with a human.
That would really cheese me off. There are plenty of human women for
Daniel to shack up with. It's like if a girl studying Engineering
hooked up with some dude from Biology. There are so few of them.
Don't go looking somewhere else for it.

Then there's Beast Wars. This brings it to another level. The
Maximals and Predacons take on the personalities of the animals
represented by their Beast forms. There's no doubt in my mind that
they take on sexual feelings as well. Tigatron was obviously banging
that other Tiger that got killed by that stray missle in that episode.
But there were a few interbot relationships too.

Tigatron and Airazor. This was obviously a relationship since the
whole floating island ordeal. Sure he's a big tiger and she's a
little bird. Talk about elephant and a pig! Some guys like a tighter
fit I guess. Their relationship is so hardcore that they take the
metaphore of joining so far that they actually merge the two into a
single being. That's hard core man.

Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. They're obviously a couple. They kiss
and stuff. Why have this built in urge for physical contact without
the need for reproduction? To answer this question we must ask
ourselves from where the human urge for physical contact spawns.
There are really two source. The one more obvious one would be that
of love. Love leading to sex in a survival of the fitest evolutionary
point of view. But then there's the affection of a parent for child
or any other kind of guardian/dependant need for contact. Well this
bascially all bubbles down to the need for a parent to protect their
child and for a child to seek out the comfort of a parent. This same
instinct should only be present in a situation where procreation is
possible. So Silverbolt and Blackarachnia's attration can only be
explained by sexual reasoning.

... and of course there have been other attracted to BA. Turantulas
obviously had a thing for in in the earlier episode and Cheetor's
"crush" certainly pissed us all off.

The next thing I'd like to talk about is homosexuality... it's
obviously rampant in the world of Transformers but I'll leave that
'till another time. I would first like to hear some other ideas on
the issue.

Desperado00

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Apr 20, 2001, 12:04:53 PM4/20/01
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>anyway... why have chicks if there's no sexual procreation. The only
>reason for any species or earth to have gender differences is for
>reproduction.
>

That's for organic beings. As for technological beings, the two genders, being
based on what we presume to be a human-styled society, are used for societal
balance. The yin and the yang, in a matter of speaking. It seems more than
likely that had there been female Decepticons, there never would have been a
Great War...just speculating on that one.

As for the techno-organic Cybertron after Beast Machines, procreation may be
theoretically possible. Let's just see what Bottanica & Rattrap and
Blackarachnia & Silverbolt can come up with.

Robobase

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Apr 20, 2001, 12:32:30 PM4/20/01
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>>anyway... why have chicks if there's no sexual procreation. The only
>>reason for any species or earth to have gender differences is for
>>reproduction.

Well, in the cartoon continuity, the Quints built and sold Autobots as servants
and Decepticons as warriors, I believe. So it would make sense that some would
prefer a "female" servant instead of a "male" one, which would explain the
genders.

I also think there may be female Decepticons... Amazon warrior women, who were
sold as a lot for a special order... hmmm, I feel fanfic coming up.

Don't forget, by the way, that Rattrap referred to his great aunt Arcee...

As far as the lack of female Autobots... they may have been decimated by the
early years of the war, since many of them were probably built to serve and
were ill suited for combat. Only those who adapted well were able to survive.

Of course, some of these females may have hooked up with stronger, male bots
for protection as well, and it may be certain coding that allows them to feel
affection for these protectors. As far as the male affection... it could be a
learned habit, a conditioned response that causes protective feelings
programmed by the Quints (if female bots cost more, they might have put that
in) or... we can explain it with the galaxy wide female conspiracy. Female
autobots, like females throughout the galaxy, managed to find a way to make
males enamoured of them... for the Autobots this may have been a virus that was
introduced into the programming of various male bots and spread over time...
this virus making the Female Autobots seem attractive and worth protecting.
This could have been done as a survival mechanism by some of the first Female
Autobots after they were liberated from the Quintessons... and it may account
for some of the survivors of the early war years.

In Beast Wars the Maximals and Predacons may have been affected by biological
hormones... but that's a whole nother ball of wax.... or they could still have
the virus, which by now has become an integral part of the base programming of
all bots.

Though I must say, the first post of this thread shows some deep sexual
repression issues...


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Chopper Face

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Apr 20, 2001, 1:42:03 PM4/20/01
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Is a man sexually repressed merely becasue he see things in
Transformers which were obviously planted there as sexual innuendo?

I like your whole virus idea. It would certainly explain a lot. I do
have one major problem with your theory and that is simply that
sexuality doesn't even come into it. Sure there aren't any major
allusions to sexuality in the series but still... I think the Daniel
Arcee thing is pretty raunchy. Hard to get past it.

Another thing this really doesn't accounbt for is the rampant
homosexuality which we see. There's isn't too much in G1 although
I've been recently told that Prime and Bumblebee's relationship, if
looked at from the right point of view, is quite gay... and I'm not
saying happy.

As for Beast Wars I've noticed many gay couples:

Dinobot & Optimus Primal: This is the most blatent of examples. Some
would argue that what they have is merely some form of respect but I
dissagree. One episode which comes to mind is "Gorilla Warfare". In
the end Primal is in bed while Dinobot stands vigil waiting for him to
wake up. Sure that's pretty gay but *could* be interpreted in some
sort of straight way but then comes the real kicker... the plant!
Dinobot left a plant by Primal's bed... yeah that's pretty blatently
homosexual.

Scorpinok & Megatron: "Megatron is our true leader"... that
Scorpinok's got such blind loyalty to Megatron. Some would say it's
kind of a choosing the winning team thing... but let's not forget
things like what happened in "Power Surge" where Megatron was all but
scrapped. The smart more survival oriented thing to do would be to
jump ship. Instead he salvages Megs. Such loyalty from a Pred can
only be explained in one way.

Dinobot & Megatron: The entire Beast Wars continuity is nothing but a
tiff between Dinobot and Megs. First Dinobot leaves 'cause he's sick
of being disrespected by Megatron. Megs meanwhile has his piece on
the side, Scorpinok, shoot a missile at him. Megs does all he can to
get Dinobot back. He clones him (which is eaten by Dinobot as if that
wasn't perverse enough), and then... oh yeah he clones him again but
with a messed up spark so that he's more submissive.

Tigatron & Tiger: You know that other tiger? The one we all assumed
was female since Tigatron obviously mated with it... well that's what
Tigatron's beast mode was based on so... shouldn't they be identical
right down to the sex?

Cheetor: He wears yellow on Thursday... and just look at him.

Rattrap & Dinobot: Always bickering like an old married couple.
Someone get those two a room!

Rattrap & Optimus: There always that sexual tension which shows itself
by this infighting they have. I really wouldn't wanna see an ape
having his way with a rat though.

... I think there were more but I can't think of them.

jim dorey

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Apr 20, 2001, 8:05:22 PM4/20/01
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me howl like sick dog at this post.

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Apr 20, 2001, 8:43:29 PM4/20/01
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Howabout Speedbreaker's own "mating rituals"? ;)


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ZacWilliam

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Apr 20, 2001, 10:14:31 PM4/20/01
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>
>Howabout Speedbreaker's own
> "mating rituals"? ;)
>

Ahh yes, Speedbreaker: The Sexual Harasment Autobot. You've GOT to love
that guy.


-ZacWilliam, not saying sexual harrasment is cool, of course, just that
Speedbreaker is a very fun charecter. :)

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Zobovor

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Apr 21, 2001, 2:14:02 AM4/21/01
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Chopper Face wrote:

<snip>

Is this a joke? This must be a joke.

Okay, I'll play along.

>We don't ever really see any Transformers mention their parents or
>children. So how do they reproduce? Is there sex involved? I like
>to think so.

Well, Alpha Trion was the "father of the Autobots." Nosecone called Grimlock
his father. Sunstreaker and Sideswipe are brothers. Mojo Jojo told the
Rowdyruff Boys he was his father, but the Powerpuff Girls never call Professor
Utonium "Daddy." Isn't that sad? :P

>But there is so much proof that sexuality must exist on Cybertron.
>What about the women?

THE WOMEN! </spock>

>I'm talking Elita-1 and Arcee... sweet sweet Arcee (btw if I post porno of
>Arcee would it be taken down?)

That reminds me... does anyone have that issue of ToyFare with the
Playboy-style pinup of Arcee? I'd love to see a scan of that.

>Then there's Arcee. So what's her deal? I think this chick i sso hot
>that... I'd arc weld a car frame to myself just to get the chance to
>smell her hair... well her metal bagel head things. Anyway she's so
>obviously banging Daniel. As if the alusions in TF:TM weren't strong
>enough then we've got the insanely perverse headmasters series. "I
>feel you inside me"... damn that's HOT!!

....

You do know that by the time of "The Rebirth," Daniel's still only about 14,
right?

>Tigatron and Airazor. This was obviously a relationship since the
>whole floating island ordeal. Sure he's a big tiger and she's a
>little bird.

And yes, before you ask, sleeping with Airazor IS like sleeping with a bird.
(Well, actually, it's like sleeping with a goosedown pillow, but I digress.)


Zobovor... I feel very dirty just having quoted this post. I'm gonna go wash
my hands now...

Jetbolt

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Apr 21, 2001, 2:38:26 AM4/21/01
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"Chopper Face" <ad...@adamrulz.com> wrote in message
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> children. So how do they reproduce? Is there sex involved? I like
> to think so.

I'll bet ya do, ya perv.

> that explains where TFs are made. Whatever. The comic sucks hot man
> chowder so let's not get into that.

"Hot man chowder"? Don't think we don't know what that's an analogy for,
young man.

snip


> But there is so much proof that sexuality must exist on Cybertron.
> What about the women? I'm talking Elita-1 and Arcee... sweet sweet
> Arcee (btw if I post porno of Arcee would it be taken down?) ...

It wouldn't even make it to my ISPs server. They don't allow or show
binaries in non-binary groups.

> smell her hair... well her metal bagel head things. Anyway she's so
> obviously banging Daniel.

Duh.

Aziraphale and his 4-piece Grimlock

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Apr 21, 2001, 11:43:11 AM4/21/01
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>>Howabout Speedbreaker's own
>> "mating rituals"? ;)

> Ahh yes, Speedbreaker: The Sexual Harasment Autobot. You've GOT to love
>that guy.
>
> -ZacWilliam, not saying sexual harrasment is cool, of course, just that
>Speedbreaker is a very fun charecter. :)
>

And he's a necrophyle to boot; he tries to date unliving cars!


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Sky, the Venus Flytrap

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Apr 21, 2001, 12:43:44 PM4/21/01
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Zobovor wrote:
> That reminds me... does anyone have that issue of
> ToyFare with the Playboy-style pinup of Arcee? I'd
> love to see a scan of that.

If I had a sig, that would definitely be included.

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Joona I Palaste

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Aziraphale and his 4-piece Grimlock <tha...@bio.vu.nl> scribbled the following:

>>>Howabout Speedbreaker's own
>>> "mating rituals"? ;)

>> Ahh yes, Speedbreaker: The Sexual Harasment Autobot. You've GOT to love
>>that guy.
>>
>> -ZacWilliam, not saying sexual harrasment is cool, of course, just that
>>Speedbreaker is a very fun charecter. :)
>>
> And he's a necrophyle to boot; he tries to date unliving cars!

"Necrophile" means "one who loves the dead". But how can something be
dead if it wasn't alive in the first place?

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Prowl

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Apr 21, 2001, 11:34:13 PM4/21/01
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>This is something which has always interested me. What's the deal with
>Transformer sexuality?

Loong story.

>We don't ever really see any Transformers mention their parents or
>children. So how do they reproduce? Is there sex involved? I like
>to think so.

I don't think there';s any 'mechanical' sex invloved. For G1, anyway. think
about it from a technological point of view. ow'd it... where'd it... OK! I
think it's just a matter of a serial/fiberoptic link, some data exchange, and
then a trip to Vector Sigma. (I actually drew a schematic for this that might
actually work work!)

>
>In G1 there's that episode where Megs goes to vector sigma and gets
>"souls" for his new decepticons. This certianly seems to suggest that
>there is no need for intercourse as well... well that would certainly
>suck...

Well... G1 TF's come from Vector Sigma, which pretty much comes up witht eh
program (if not created in the explenation above) of the 2 'parents' just tell
it when kind of 'kid' they want.

>But there is so much proof that sexuality must exist on Cybertron.
>What about the women? I'm talking Elita-1 and Arcee... sweet sweet
>Arcee (btw if I post porno of Arcee would it be taken down?) ...
>anyway... why have chicks if there's no sexual procreation. The only
>reason for any species or earth to have gender differences is for
>reproduction.

Or 'the weaker sex'. Remember! The series didn't exactly match real life, :-).

>Now I don't know all that much about Elita-1 so maybe someone can fill
>in the gaps for me but it seems that she was Optimus's slice of poon.
>His piece he would get while not scouring the Universe

I think they have a more of a love-type relationship than just physical sex.
Then there's THE scene from 'Search for Alpha Trion'

>Then there's Arcee. So what's her deal? I think this chick i sso hot
>that... I'd arc weld a car frame to myself just to get the chance to
>smell her hair... well her metal bagel head things.

She's taken.

> Anyway she's so
>obviously banging Daniel.

Axtually she's OBVIOUSLY 'banging' Springer. think back to FFoD. Then there's
'Only Human'... who knows what they did THEN... I bet $100 they did it.


>As if the alusions in TF:TM weren't strong
>enough then we've got the insanely perverse headmasters series. "I
>feel you inside me"... damn that's HOT!!

The writers got a little bored. Or the translators got a little horny.

>Then there's Beast Wars. This brings it to another level.

OOOOOOh the Beast Wars. Yeah.

>Tigatron was obviously banging
>that other Tiger that got killed by that stray missle in that episode.

Hmmm... Perhaps. Although I doubt it. He IS a lot into this 'animal instinct'
stuff, he might as well ahve tried it. And then he got hooked.

>Tigatron and Airazor. This was obviously a relationship since the
>whole floating island ordeal.

Bigtime.

>Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. They're obviously a couple.

I'd ahve ti agree with you there. They're quite an item.

>The next thing I'd like to talk about is homosexuality... it's
>obviously rampant in the world of Transformers

Oh really? That... wouldn't work. Then, there's alwayus the D-type 9-pin Gender
Changer/Adapter... bu the TX/RX wouldn't line up. Unless Wheeljack ecided to
rewire the contraption.

>but I'll leave that
>'till another time.

Thank you.

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<< >Now I don't know all that much about Elita-1 so maybe someone can fill
>in the gaps for me but it seems that she was Optimus's slice of poon.
>His piece he would get while not scouring the Universe

I think they have a more of a love-type relationship than just physical sex. >>

Nah, I think Op "did it all for the nookie." Maybe that should be Op's theme
song for the other thread I started.....


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Prowl

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>Aziraphale and his 4-piece Grimlock <tha...@bio.vu.nl> scribbled the
>following:
>>>>Howabout Speedbreaker's own
>>>> "mating rituals"? ;)
>
>>> Ahh yes, Speedbreaker: The Sexual Harasment Autobot. You've GOT to love
>>>that guy.
>>>
>>> -ZacWilliam, not saying sexual harrasment is cool, of course, just
>that
>>>Speedbreaker is a very fun charecter. :)
>>>
>> And he's a necrophyle to boot; he tries to date unliving cars!
>
>"Necrophile" means "one who loves the dead". But how can something be
>dead if it wasn't alive in the first place?
>

Ok... That's... well... ok. I believe teh right word in this case is... oh,
what's that word where people get turned on by everyday objects? Fetish. That's
right. Ok...!
It's like people loving manequens and rubber dolls.

Zobovor

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Sky, the Venus Flytrap wrote:

>> That reminds me... does anyone have that issue of
>> ToyFare with the Playboy-style pinup of Arcee? I'd
>> love to see a scan of that.
>
>If I had a sig, that would definitely be included.

I'm flattered, but I wasn't making that up. There actually is an issue of
ToyFare that has a feature article on Transformers, and it includes original
art of Arcee striking a sexy pin-up pose. If nobody else produces a scan in
the next few days I'll see about buying the issue and scanning it myself. :)

Walkerton

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Apr 22, 2001, 10:23:18 AM4/22/01
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> I'm flattered, but I wasn't making that up. There actually is an issue of
> ToyFare that has a feature article on Transformers, and it includes
original
> art of Arcee striking a sexy pin-up pose. If nobody else produces a scan
in
> the next few days I'll see about buying the issue and scanning it myself.
:)

Yeah, I screamed in horror when I saw it, too. Heh, we had a good laugh
at ToyFare's expense over in #wiigii!. I uploaded a scan, but I don't think
it's up anymore.

Gruh.

Sad, sad fanboys.

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Brian Kilby

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<Snip>


>
> Yeah, I screamed in horror when I saw it, too. Heh, we had a good laugh
> at ToyFare's expense over in #wiigii!.

<Snip>

I had it a week or so before anyone else ('cept for maybe LV) and I was
literally so embarrased that I actually owned it that I never mentioned it.
/:)

Toyfare just has no clue. Car Robots "re-vitalized" the Transformers line in
Japan? Snuh? If it re-vitalized the line, why were there so many repaints?
Why is there no new TF series in Japan? Why were some of the
toys...erm...lacking in quality?

And...the price guide...ugh.

The "jokes"...ack.

The Arcee pin-up... Ew.

One is forced to wonder why Toyfare can't do any better. Wizard is still an
easily readable magazine, but Toyfare is just bad.


Walkerton

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Apr 22, 2001, 4:44:57 PM4/22/01
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> I had it a week or so before anyone else ('cept for maybe LV) and I was
> literally so embarrased that I actually owned it that I never mentioned
it.
> /:)

Ugh, yes. Too bad my roommate had to see the farkin' thing over my
shoulder. I'll NEVER hear the end of it. I get enough "ha ha you like
to sleep with robots don't you hur hur" stuff already.

Thanks, ToyFare. /:)

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Bobbi Carothers

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Apr 22, 2001, 6:18:35 PM4/22/01
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On 22 Apr 2001, Zobovor wrote:

> I'm flattered, but I wasn't making that up. There actually is an issue of
> ToyFare that has a feature article on Transformers, and it includes original
> art of Arcee striking a sexy pin-up pose. If nobody else produces a scan in
> the next few days I'll see about buying the issue and scanning it myself. :)

If you can't find it, I think the Arcee model kit has a picture of her in
a slinky pose. Rob Jung might still have a scan of it on his page.

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Bobbi Carothers wrote:
>
> On 22 Apr 2001, Zobovor wrote:
>
> > I'm flattered, but I wasn't making that up. There actually is
> > an issue of ToyFare that has a feature article on Transformers,
> > and it includes original art of Arcee striking a sexy pin-up
> > pose. If nobody else produces a scan in the next few days
> > I'll see about buying the issue and scanning it myself. :)
>
> If you can't find it, I think the Arcee model kit has a picture
> of her in a slinky pose. Rob Jung might still have a scan of it
> on his page.
>
> -Bobbi... erm, Zob? Does Lori know your interest in this? >:)

Bobbi, I think you meant Laurie, unless there's something I don't
know about...

Here is a page I slapped together with a picture of the
original model kit, and one of the SHBM version:
http://www.primesaber.com/TF/Arcee.html

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Chopper Face

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Apr 22, 2001, 11:09:49 PM4/22/01
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Where to start... well if anyone can upload that Arcee pinup and post
a link I'd be eternally gratefull... is it PG or what? If not then
I'd appreciate an e-mail or something. ( ad...@adamrulz.com )

As for being unable to post binaries here... well the question wasn't
so much about me being able to put the picture up here but whether or
not it would be acceptable content. So how 'bout a no nipple, no
genital soft porn Arcee pic? I could simply supply a link.

I really don't think the term necrophile would apply to cars since
they haven't died. Someone who gets hot by looking at their PC screen
isn't really a necrophile since the screen is unliving... they're
arguably technophile... but no more than someone reading a porn mag
would be an arbophile... that being a term I just made up for
something who is aroused by trees and tree derived products. As for
loving manequins or dolls... being attracted to something with no
physical basis such as... well just look at this pic:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/movie-10000044/gallery.php?page=14&size=hires
... damn ...

I'd love to see that serial/fiberoptic link schematic if it's not too
much trouble. Sounds hot as all hell.

Another thing... if there is some sort of robot mode intercourse as we
all assume there is... and there's gotta be a beast mode intercourse
so... the beast wars guys should be able to do it two different way.
I can just imagine robot mode Blackarachnia and Silverbolt spread out
on a moss covered rock with vapour venting from their joint exausted
from some hot robo-action and then Blackarachnia leaning over to
Silverbolt and saying "That was heavenly... wanna do it Beast mode?"
So... if Silverbolt's robotic "stamina" is gone maybe he can give it
another go in Beast mode or vice versa. I think it'd be funny if a
couple would have relationship problems where one of them liked it
robot mode while the other liked it beast mode. It'd be like human
couples with partialities for anal, oral or nasal intercourse.

Oh yeah and hi Brennan. *waves*

Darwinian Road Kill

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Apr 23, 2001, 8:03:01 AM4/23/01
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Chopper Face (ad...@adamrulz.com) wrote:
: This is something which has always interested me. What's the deal with
: Transformer sexuality?

Officially? Hasbro tends to avoid addressing the issue, TM2 BA
notwithstanding. :)

Beast Wars, of course, *did* have characters display obvious attraction to
another (Tigatron/Airrazor, Quickstrike/BA, Silverbolt/BA, Cheetor/BA),
but certain consequences of that were left unexplored.

Unofficially? Well, whatever you want, I suppose. There's oodles of fics
about what Megatron REALLY meant when he said of Nightbird "She's all I
ever wanted!"; about Starscream having a wife and several lovers; debating
just what, if anything, Tracks is attracted too.

And of course, Beast Continuity just adds more fun. :)

: We don't ever really see any Transformers mention their parents or
: children.

But Arcee was apparently Rattrap's Great-aunt, and Sideswipe and
Sunstreaker are brothers.

: So how do they reproduce? Is there sex involved? I like
: to think so.

Well, if that's what you think, than that's how you'll interpret any
canonical relations. :)

: In the comic continuity there's this whole thing with Primus and stuff


: that explains where TFs are made. Whatever. The comic sucks hot man
: chowder so let's not get into that.
: In G1 there's that episode where Megs goes to vector sigma and gets
: "souls" for his new decepticons. This certianly seems to suggest that
: there is no need for intercourse as well... well that would certainly
: suck...

While one could (and I did) interpret the VS/Primus origins as being
complientary (nothing to suggest in my take on the cartoon that VS was not
in fact inhabited by Primus, though as far as G1 proper is concerned, such
must fit under "pink bunny speculation"...), it was canonically
demonstrated in KtVS that in the Great War era one didn't just go and get
offspring (or recruits) ready-made anymore. The trek to VS was pretty
arduous, recall.

: But there is so much proof that sexuality must exist on Cybertron.


: What about the women? I'm talking Elita-1 and Arcee... sweet sweet
: Arcee (btw if I post porno of Arcee would it be taken down?) ...

No, but binaries in a non-binary newsgroup such as ATT would be resented,
with good reason. You may want to peek at "How to win friends and
influence ATT."


: anyway... why have chicks if there's no sexual procreation. The only


: reason for any species or earth to have gender differences is for
: reproduction.

Well, in cartoon continuity, you'd have to ask the Quints. :)

<snippety> <bonk>
Primal: bonk?
(agh! get him offa me!)

: Tigatron and Airazor...Their relationship is so hardcore that they take the


: metaphore of joining so far that they actually merge the two into a
: single being. That's hard core man.

Well, keep in mind it wasn't their idea.

Vok Pete: heh heh...

However, Cheetor's dream of the two sparks fusing struck me as an
"awwwwww" moment.

: Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. They're obviously a couple. They kiss


: and stuff. Why have this built in urge for physical contact without
: the need for reproduction?

Well, she *is* a black widow spider, you know... ;)

: ... and of course there have been other attracted to BA. Turantulas


: obviously had a thing for in in the earlier episode and Cheetor's
: "crush" certainly pissed us all off.

Everyone forgets Quickstrike...

: The next thing I'd like to talk about is homosexuality... it's


: obviously rampant in the world of Transformers but I'll leave that
: 'till another time.

STARSCREAM: *DON'T* look at me!
Tentakil: Arrrr, I be not gay!
Tracks: Why won't they LEAVE ME ALONE! *sob*

AFAIK, the only "out" TF is BW Inferno. A mean, he's a male TF, ant an
ant. (his alt mode appears to be a worker/soldier neutered female, to make
things more confusing.) He addresses Megatron as "Queen". Male ants (and
Inferno does think he is an ant) exist but for one reason -- to impregnate
Queens.

That whole scene where Inferno first sees flaying TM Megs and says
"Royalty! you've *come* for me!" gets a whole new meaning...

Ryan :>
(Primal: Come?)
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Zobovor

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Apr 23, 2001, 11:31:40 PM4/23/01
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Bobbi Carothers wrote:

>If you can't find it, I think the Arcee model kit has a picture of her in
>a slinky pose. Rob Jung might still have a scan of it on his page.

I don't think the model kit used the same art, though. I was just curious as
to whether anybody owned this issue and had a scan, since I only took a cursory
glance at the ToyFare issue the other day. I was mainly curious as to who drew
the art and how accurate it was to her cartoon model.

>-Bobbi... erm, Zob? Does Lori know your interest in this? >:)

You mean Laurie? Um, of course she does. And I don't have a whole encrypted
folder filled with high-resolution JPEGs of half-naked robots, either. No,
really, I don't.

Giga...@webtv.net

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Apr 24, 2001, 3:27:22 AM4/24/01
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( Adam-chopper face ) Did you ever consider that perhaps female
transformers were created as nurses. In most earth hospiatals female
nurses are needed because of the small, thin hands. a small, thin hand
in the operation room is often needed to get inside of the patients
body. The average male hand is huge compared to a woman's
OTHER IDEA'S for female transformers could be for spy missions. you know
the old saying ,"the skinner a person is, the less you see of him in
shadows. female transformers would make perfect spies because they can
slip through tight area's & are more flexible.
most male transformers are built like bulky warriors to fight battles,
perhaps more streamed lined (female) transformers were built for nurse &
spy missions.
I guess not every culture needs SEX. after all the 100 smurfs managed
pretty decent before smurfette came onto the scene.


"PLEASE visit my web page, I made A dinosaur gestalt toy using 7
different Beastwars Transformers. I named the gestalt Dinoking". ( Just
click on the link below to enter my web page.).
http://community.webtv.net/GigaStorm/GigaStorms

Chopper Face

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Apr 24, 2001, 12:55:19 PM4/24/01
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Smurf mating rituals... I had a lengthy discussion about that on a
board just a few weeks ago but this really isn't the forum for it.
Needless to say they were all gay.

About the nurse thing... so the women probed into the men with their
small hands... interesting concept.

As for spies there are lots of advantages to being such as weighing
less when jumping around and stuff... but all around a more compact
model is more convenient in any way but Arcee and Elita-1 are by no
means smaller than all the other autobots. Rumble, Ravage and all the
otehr tapes for example are great for spying and they're... I would
suppose male. I guess maybe laser beak could be female though... but
isn't the mere idea of them joining like that with Soundwave sexually
suggestive?

Prowl

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Apr 25, 2001, 6:38:16 AM4/25/01
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>
>I'd love to see that serial/fiberoptic link schematic if it's not too
>much trouble. Sounds hot as all hell

Erm... OK. I originally made it for fiber-optic communications, but it'll work
here, too! I'll send it to ya.

>Another thing... if there is some sort of robot mode intercourse as we
>all assume there is... and there's gotta be a beast mode intercourse
>so... the beast wars guys should be able to do it two different way.
>I can just imagine robot mode Blackarachnia and Silverbolt spread out
>on a moss covered rock with vapour venting from their joint exausted
>from some hot robo-action and then Blackarachnia leaning over to
>Silverbolt and saying "That was heavenly... wanna do it Beast mode?"

Somehting tells me that Silverbolt just ain't the kind of guy to try
beastiality.

Chopper Face

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Apr 25, 2001, 9:36:49 AM4/25/01
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>
>Somehting tells me that Silverbolt just ain't the kind of guy to try
>beastiality.
>
What exactly do you mean by that? Do you mean that Silverbolt would
have a problem with getting down with another bird or dog like himself
or that he's simply opposed to have some sort of sexual interaction
with another species of animal like a spider. I guess he would be a
unique beast form since there aren't any other bird dog fuzors
around... looks like a job in genetics if you ask me.

Prowl

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Apr 25, 2001, 2:59:53 PM4/25/01
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Ok... enough of this.
Oh, and by that, I meant 'mixed-mode'.

2mand...@gmail.com

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Jul 18, 2018, 12:39:06 AM7/18/18
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Wheelie has parents who died in the crash. But maybe they forage* or built him.

You have my permession to use this idea
*They got the spark from the hot spot or they create on by combining their sparks together. The femmes ( who has the negative sparks) receives information from the mech's positive spark.

Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats

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On Friday, April 20, 2001 at 8:55:53 AM UTC-7, Chopper Face wrote:
> This is something which has always interested me. What's the deal with
> Transformer sexuality?

Most Transformers are non-gender-binary, at least as far as G1 goes. They use masculine pronouns, but they are not actually masculine.

> We don't ever really see any Transformers mention their parents or
> children. So how do they reproduce? Is there sex involved? I like
> to think so.

They are machines, built off an assembly line, programmed to simulate free will. We know that some of them are programmed by Vector Sigma, but there are others that have other origins (G1 Dinobots, Technobots, Terrorcons, Scorponok...) but they are accepted into the Transformers "race" without significant question.

We don't know if all the Transformers on Paradron are ancient, or whether they had a different mechanism for creation, for instance. There were a number of other colonies that were found, and a number of other mechanical races.

Given how quickly the Dinobots and Technobots were accepted, I think it is reasonable to assume that if the Lithones transformed, they would have been accepted as Transformers. "Transformer" isn't so much a description of a race, just a description of a robot that transforms -- but Scorponok isn't even a robot.

Further, all the Transformers on Paradron should have eventually shut down because of a lack of Cybertronium, unless they had a different origin.

Predacons and Terrorcons have been seen under Quintesson control, and may have been built recently. Sharkticons are marketed as Transformers and have Decepticon insignia in our world, despite almost certainly being built off Cybertron.

> In the comic continuity there's this whole thing with Primus and stuff
> that explains where TFs are made. Whatever. The comic sucks hot man
> chowder so let's not get into that.

Man Chowder is actually slightly cooler than body temperature. "Warm Man Chowder" would be a more appropriate term.

> In G1 there's that episode where Megs goes to vector sigma and gets
> "souls" for his new decepticons. This certianly seems to suggest that
> there is no need for intercourse as well... well that would certainly
> suck...

We have evidence that there is sexual attraction in the G1 cartoon -- Octane has his Arcee porn, for instance, and the "male" and "female" Autobots pair up in "The Search For Alpha Trion".

There is presumably some purpose to this sexual attraction.

> But there is so much proof that sexuality must exist on Cybertron.
> What about the women? I'm talking Elita-1 and Arcee... sweet sweet
> Arcee (btw if I post porno of Arcee would it be taken down?) ...
> anyway... why have chicks if there's no sexual procreation. The only
> reason for any species or earth to have gender differences is for
> reproduction.

Not true at all. You don't need gender differences for reproduction, or reproduction for gender differences. There are lots of examples of animals that reproduce asexually, or who are hermaphrodites.

> Now I don't know all that much about Elita-1 so maybe someone can fill
> in the gaps for me but it seems that she was Optimus's slice of poon.
> His piece he would get while not scouring the Universe

Hot tip: Broads don't like to be called a "slice of poon".

There is nothing canonical to suggest that "male" Transformers objectify the "females" that way, at least not to the point of ignoring all other attributes in favor of their gender. Octane had his Arcee pinup, but we never saw him interact with a female, did we?

> Then there's Arcee. So what's her deal? I think this chick i sso hot
> that... I'd arc weld a car frame to myself just to get the chance to
> smell her hair... well her metal bagel head things.

Also, there is no reason to believe that Transformers have a particular scent in their metal bagel head things. In "TROOP", we learn that Ultra Magnus would recognize Rodimus Prime's exhaust fumes anywhere, so there are odors, but no others have been mentioned.

Also, you cannot arc weld metal to flesh. It just doesn't work that way.

> Anyway she's so obviously banging Daniel.

Daniel would likely be crushed to a pulp. A thirteen year old human boy just doesn't have the structural strength to withstand the weight and pressure of intimacy with a robot the size of a car.

> As if the alusions in TF:TM weren't strong
> enough then we've got the insanely perverse headmasters series. "I
> feel you inside me"... damn that's HOT!! Now I appreciate that Arcee
> is playing for the human team. This gives me hope. I mean if I can
> ever get past the whole fact/fantasy barrier that separates us then
> she's just that much more likely to give it up to me. I just feel for
> the other bots. I mean... there are NO chicks around. So then
> finally one comes along and she decides to shack up with a human.
> That would really cheese me off. There are plenty of human women for
> Daniel to shack up with. It's like if a girl studying Engineering
> hooked up with some dude from Biology. There are so few of them.
> Don't go looking somewhere else for it.

"The odds are good, but the goods are odd"

Also, most people think Arcee and Springer are a couple in Season 3, after Hot Rod becomes Rodimus Prime.

We also never see Transformers show any signs of jealousy in G1. Cybertronian Transformer personalities are more limited than our own -- or more advanced... Hard to tell, really.

> Then there's Beast Wars. This brings it to another level. The
> Maximals and Predacons take on the personalities of the animals
> represented by their Beast forms. There's no doubt in my mind that
> they take on sexual feelings as well. Tigatron was obviously banging
> that other Tiger that got killed by that stray missle in that episode.
> But there were a few interbot relationships too.

Fun Fact: Tigatron was a female tiger, and a male robot.

> Tigatron and Airazor. This was obviously a relationship since the
> whole floating island ordeal. Sure he's a big tiger and she's a
> little bird. Talk about elephant and a pig! Some guys like a tighter
> fit I guess. Their relationship is so hardcore that they take the
> metaphore of joining so far that they actually merge the two into a
> single being. That's hard core man.

Let's be fair -- that's the Vok doing that. Transformers don't show any signs of merging that way.

> Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. They're obviously a couple. They kiss
> and stuff. Why have this built in urge for physical contact without
> the need for reproduction?

Kissing doesn't lead directly to pregnancy, even in humans. The need for intimacy is an entirely separate thing than a reproductive urge. Gay people kiss, and even do other things, despite having minimal chances of reproduction that way.

> The next thing I'd like to talk about is homosexuality...

Same sex relationships can be quite thrilling...

(Why did I respond to this? I have no good explanation for this... It was there...)

Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats

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On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 9:55:19 AM UTC-7, Chopper Face wrote:
>
> About the nurse thing... so the women probed into the men with their
> small hands... interesting concept.

Fisting is a pretty advanced activity. Remember to use a *lot* of lubricant.

Steve L.K. Macrocranios

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Jul 19, 2018, 1:24:41 AM7/19/18
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 12:41:04 AM UTC-7, Gustavo Wombat, of the Seattle Wombats wrote:

> (Why did I respond to this? I have no good explanation for this... It was
> there...)

I think we need reminding every few decades that someone wrote they wish they could arc weld a car frame to themselves just so they could smell Arcee's hair donuts,
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2mand...@gmail.com

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Some have parents, but very few. Wheelie had patents. https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Relatives#Parents_and_children

2mand...@gmail.com

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Well some like Wheelie do have parents and many others have them too https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Relatives
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