The search for Macross symbol Jetfires
Ranma 1449
I'm trying to buy or at least see how many of these are out there.
So if your willing sell I'll buy. If your not, at least let me know
what version you have and who its made by.
There are 2 versions with the symbol. The more common is the one
with a sticker on its wing. The rarer of them is the the etched one(
part of the paint) I ve heard of 5 people who own the sticker but I
only own the etched. So tell me.
Also does the Hartmans Own one? I know Tony Preto doesn't.
DAVID G TASHJIAN
Ranma 1449 (ranm...@aol.com) wrote:
: I'm trying to buy or at least see how many of these are out there.
: what version you have and who its made by.
by Bandai. And no, I'm not selling it. I got it from a Co-worker of all
people. And of course there's my 'Hackfire' 80% original Valkyrie
veritech, 20% jetfire (right arm, headguns, wingcover/tailfin assembly)
and sporting Jetfire armor pods. It's not perfect, but still pretty nifty.
Hex.
[ Give me a screwdriver and enough superglue and I'll give you the
world! MuHaHaHaHa! ]
Kendrick Kerwin Chua
In article <4tegor$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
The Weeter <thew...@aol.com> wrote:
>Did you ever consider that SOMEONE took parts from a Macross jetfire to
>rapair this Jetfire of yours? Or atleast stuck a autobot symbol on a
>Macross one???
Actually Weets, there DO exist Jetfires that came in the box with Macross
symbols on them. Like with the Diaclone toys, when Hasbro bought the
rights and the molds, they also bought excess stock, which just got
repackaged in the more familiar Transformer packages. This is why you get
Dinobots and Autobot cars with no Hasbro stamp, Topspins with the
'Diaclone Attack Robot' symbol on the wings, blue Bluestreaks, red
Bumblebees and yellow Cliffjumpers.
>I know you showed it to me at bot con, but it was in an open box!!! Give
>me a screw driver and I could take it appart and put my Macross RED wings
>on it, a different head, and red hands in a matter of minutes...and you
>wouldnt be able to tell if it came that way, or if someone changed it
>unless you actually saw someone do it.
Well Weets, it seems to me that some people think that the variant is
important, and to me that's just fine. It's not important to you, and
that's ok too.
KKC, I just bought a She-Spawn. Somebody shoot me.
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In article <4tegor$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
thew...@aol.com (The Weeter) wrote:
>Did you ever consider that SOMEONE took parts from a Macross jetfire to
>rapair this Jetfire of yours? Or atleast stuck a autobot symbol on a
>Macross one???
>
Ah, but the Macross VF1S Valkyrie, (what Jetfire is) is mostly white with
yellow and black trimming, and usually the skull logo on the vertical
stabalizers. Now, Jetfire has the entire nose painted red, and is red and
white. You can easily tell if it's Jetfire or the VF1S. If anyone wants more
info on the VF1S Valkyrie/Veritech from Macross/Robotech just ask.
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Eric Harding
In article <4tjnki$g...@nyheter.SineWave.com>, Dead...@sinewave.com (DeadPhrog) wrote:
>In article <4tegor$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
> thew...@aol.com (The Weeter) wrote:
>>Did you ever consider that SOMEONE took parts from a Macross jetfire to
>>rapair this Jetfire of yours? Or atleast stuck a autobot symbol on a
>>Macross one???
>>
>
>Ah, but the Macross VF1S Valkyrie, (what Jetfire is) is mostly white with
>yellow and black trimming, and usually the skull logo on the vertical
>stabalizers. Now, Jetfire has the entire nose painted red, and is red and
>white. You can easily tell if it's Jetfire or the VF1S. If anyone wants more
>info on the VF1S Valkyrie/Veritech from Macross/Robotech just ask.
The VF-1S Super Valkyrie toy from Macross the Movie is Hikaru's, and has red
trim. The one I have is Identical to Jetfire, except for the Macross symbol
and Skull symbol's replacing the Autobot one. If you watch the movie
carefully, you will see that Roy's has the Yellow Trim, and Max's has the Blue
trim.
Eric
msipher
On 31 Jul 1996, DAVID G TASHJIAN wrote:
> is different. It says 'Matsuisho' or something. But really now, do I
> care if it's the _real_ McCoy or not? Not presently. It's a neat little
> oddity like the Blaster I have with the removable rear panel,
Huh? I see the rear panel on my Blaster, but how would one remove it?
Short of prying it open with a screwdriver, I don't see how it can come
off...
Oh, and on that note, I found out why Blaster's gun has that big hole in
the middle of it at BotCon... on the original toy, he came with
headphones. That's where they go in robot mode. Neat.
Blue Trim
> Cyclonus, and the 3 different Hot Spots I have (Metal, Plastic w/ red eyes,
> & plastic w/ yellow eyes) It's neat, but I'm not gonna get pissy about it.
I got the blue-trim Cyc as well... along with the "plain" version and the
Targetmaster version... I have more Cycloni than Sweeps. Strange.
Yellow-eyed Hot Spot? Mother of God on a recumbant bike, why don't you
people TELL me these things?
> As far as the authenticity of the Macross Jetfire goes, unless your'e
> buying one for scary amounts of money, don't worry too hard.
... I haven't seen any of them, so I'm not gonna worry about them. Or add
them to the list... this is one of those really questionable items, like
the fourth powerdasher.
> Hex.
> [ Thinks his is the real thing but is gonna drop this here and now. Well,
> mebbe just to make Tony Preto drool... Photo-op Robert! ]
Hee hee hee... I bear no ill will towards Tony, but MAN it's fun to make
jokes at his expense, isn't it? I get a warm fuzzy when I think about the
Rescue Force "Killbison" that I got that he wanted...
M "No, That's A CHEETAH! NOT A Tiger! Remember Hobbes?" Sipher
(In a pissy mood over this incident... I shouldn't be, but I am.)
DAVID G TASHJIAN
Quote Weeter... :v]
The Weeter (thew...@aol.com) wrote:
: Did you ever consider that SOMEONE took parts from a Macross jetfire to
: rapair this Jetfire of yours? Or atleast stuck a autobot symbol on a
: Macross one???
it from is highly destructive now... imagine his childhood. :-o
: I know you showed it to me at bot con, but it was in an open box!!! Give
: me a screw driver and I could take it appart and put my Macross RED wings
Uhhh... no I didn't... my Macross Jetfire was at home in Cinn., Ohio.
while yes, this possibility did come to mind especially when I found a
PLAIN jetfire wing in a junk box at the 'con. There is another difference
that Ranma144? pointed out that I missed and that is that the manufacturer
is different. It says 'Matsuisho' or something. But really now, do I
care if it's the _real_ McCoy or not? Not presently. It's a neat little
oddity like the Blaster I have with the removable rear panel, Blue Trim
Cyclonus, and the 3 different Hot Spots I have (Metal, Plastic w/ red eyes,
& plastic w/ yellow eyes) It's neat, but I'm not gonna get pissy about it.
: I have currently 8 Jetfires, Mine, one other mint, 4 intact but
: incomplete, and 2 broken.
: I mixed and matched pieces to get them this way, instead of 2 mint, 2
: intact and 4 damaged.
Sounds familiar, like my Hackfire. (mismatched white and grey parts,
until I can find another 'victim' to improve the original.
As far as the authenticity of the Macross Jetfire goes, unless your'e
buying one for scary amounts of money, don't worry too hard.
Hex.
Drogn
In article <4tokgf$k...@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>, goj...@ix.netcom.com
(Matthew Alt) wrote:
> In <4tmqpn$f...@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G
> TASHJIAN) writes:
>
> >is different. It says 'Matsuisho' or something. But really now, do I
> >care if it's the _real_ McCoy or not? Not presently.
>
> If it has anything other than "Takatoku," "Bandai," or (perhaps)
> "Tatsunoko," written on it (and most probably the "bandai" one) it
> isn't. There's been a recent Korean knock-off of the Macross/"jetfire"
> toy circulating around for about $30, so that's probably waht it
> is.....
>
> -Matt
And I have one, and it's made really badly out of chep plastic. The
thing wouldn't even transform properly until I dissassembled it and did
some dirty work with an X-Acto and fine sandpape, and it still doesn't fit
together properly, though it's much better.
It has the J head, with two lasers and the long snout for the
optics, and is probably based on the movie version since the cartoon head
was rather different. They come in red, blue, and Alpha green-and-grey.
Altogether, it may be worth $30, but if you're paying more for a
supposedly Macross VF-1J then check the box to make sure it's not made by
Joon's, Korea Pat. number 58872.
And now, for your reading pleasure, the back cover copy from the
box, capitalization and spelling preserved:
Macross
Changeable Robot
The Story
Far awy from the star sigma, a mes-
sage came from Hades, who was sent to
th earth in secret for the peace of th
universe, saying that humans can put the
universe in danger, so the earth must be
destroyed.
In July 1999, Tike, with calmness cha-
ratar, is sent to the earth by the king of si-
gma Uranus.
Tike, use his power to get into the Tim's
dead body, and using Tim's body starts to
get in action. Nevertheless, Tike hides in
forest so that human can't notice him.
Then Tike meets Hades. Hades mades
sure that Tike know that they must dest-
roy the earth for the peace of the unive-
rse. But Tike, as he spent time with
friends of Tim's freind, tells to Hades that
human do everything for the peace, and
destroying earth is a wrong thing to
do. In result, Hades presents a great mo-
nster, and Tike presents the Macross
defending the earth. The bttle between
them start....!!
Ah, yeah. Whatever. Voltron, anyone?
-Drogn, who calls this guy
Buttugly and leaves him in a mode that look like the jet-to-soldier
transformation jammed, and vaguely like some kind of monster form robot.
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Team Decepticon '96:
Kickback high and long jumps
Ravage sprint, hurdles
Skywarp relay
Seacons, combined swim team (can reach out and tap
end markers with either hand)
Bombshell shotput
Soundwave table tennis, archery, Rythmic Gymnastics
Dead End diving (big robot, little pool... think
about it)
-Me
Sixshot Modern Pentathlon
Targetmasters Shooting
Menasor Greco-Gestalt Wrestling
Bruticus |
Devastator |
Predaking |
Abominus |
-Blitzwing
Nightbird Karate, Fencing, Gymnastics
Blitzwing and G2 Megatron pitchers on the baseball team
Rumble and Frenzy power forwards on the
basketball team
(they're tall for humans)
Trypticon and Scorponok weight lifting
Starscream running (he can use his null
ray on the other runners)
Megatron skeet shooting
-Burt Ward
Tarantulas(Beast Wars) gymnastics
Snapper(Beast Wars Turtle) swim team
-Mark Towe
Mindwipe Boxing, Freestyle Wrestling, Tennis
(he can hypnotize his oponents into
falling asleep)
Reflector Synochronized Swimming, Volleyball
Shockwave Diving
-Suzanne Ferree
Unicron basketball
-Greg Dopp
More suggestions? I'll probably edit them a bit, but the original idea gets credited
Don't worry, this spoogey .sig will be gone when the Olympics are over
Matthew Alt
Doug Kern
> In article <4tegor$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
> thew...@aol.com (The Weeter) wrote:
> >Did you ever consider that SOMEONE took parts from a Macross jetfire to
> >rapair this Jetfire of yours? Or atleast stuck a autobot symbol on a
> >Macross one???
> >
>
> Ah, but the Macross VF1S Valkyrie, (what Jetfire is) is mostly white with
> yellow and black trimming, and usually the skull logo on the vertical
> stabalizers. Now, Jetfire has the entire nose painted red, and is red and
> white. You can easily tell if it's Jetfire or the VF1S. If anyone
wants more
> info on the VF1S Valkyrie/Veritech from Macross/Robotech just ask.
>
But you forget, Jetfire is based on the Macross; Do You Remember Love?
Valkyrie, which is colored the same as Jetfire, except the eye is green
not red. Also the movie toy came with slightly different armour.
--
Doug Kern
dke...@mail.idt.net
Robert A. Jung
In article <4tmqpn$f...@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G TASHJIAN) writes:
>[ Thinks his is the real thing but is gonna drop this here and now. Well,
> mebbe just to make Tony Preto drool... Photo-op Robert! ]
You rang? B-) *CLICK!*
(Hmm, a drooling Tony Preto. It'll go well with my "snarling Tony Preto"
photo...)
--R.J.
B-)
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> In article <4tegor$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
> thew...@aol.com (The Weeter) wrote:
> >Did you ever consider that SOMEONE took parts from a Macross jetfire to
> >rapair this Jetfire of yours? Or atleast stuck a autobot symbol on a
> >Macross one???
> >
>
Well it's just too bad cause the only Valkyrie that has red on it has
wings with black trim, there is no Valkyrie that has red trim on it's
wing.
As for the sticker, why would the wing's red trim/line be made to just
stop for the sticker, and there be an ident where hte sticker is?
Napalm-Rabbit
Methinks it's time somebody pull out a robotech/jetfire FAQ or at least
scan their pics of the many many many variants onto a spiffy html so that we
the discerning public can see for ourselves.
D.T. :)
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Matthew Alt
In <merryhwd-020...@pm0a9.bf.sover.net> merr...@sover.net
(Drogn) writes:
>
> No, I am not wrong. I have the toy, the Robotech ROG, and the box
>right in front of me, and the pictures in the RPG and on the box
>CLEARLY AND UNDENIABLY show the TWO LASER J head as being round from
>the fron, and haveing a chin area. The toy does not, and is SQUARE
>from the front. Check your facts if you wwant to be an Authority,
>jackass.
Sorry, but you ARE wrong. The American written and designed RPG book
has absoloutely no bearing on the Japanese made TV show and movie,
which were made YEARS before the american game. The RPG is wrong. Check
YOUR facts......
>in battroid position, and the frame is at a 90 degree angle at the
>shoulders, propped up on the hip sections, which are at 45 degrees ro
the
>section of fusilage that they are attatched to.
>
>BOOT TO THE HEAD!!
>
>*plonk*
My sentiments exactly....about YOU! I have no idea what you're trying
to describe here, but the RPG is a crappily-illustrated, silly AMERICAN
rip off! It has NO CONNECTION to the original designs, characters, or
mecha of Macross except what the American designers decided to copy! It
seems the RPG designers took even more liberties than I had heard, and
it's far from being the definitive Macross reference. Try picking up a
copy of the 1984 _Macross: Perfect Memory_ book or the 1984 This is
Animation Macross special before you run off your mouth next time, OK?
-Matt
Matthew Alt
In <4trl1t$e...@nyheter.SineWave.com> Dead...@sinewave.com (DeadPhrog)
writes:
>
>In article <merryhwd-310...@pm0a23.bf.sover.net>,
> merr...@sover.net (Drogn) wrote:
>> It has the J head, with two lasers and the long snout for the
>>optics, and is probably based on the movie version since the cartoon
>head
>>was rather different.
>
>BULL! There are SEVERAL different variations of Valkyrie's/Veritechs.
>The long snouted ones with ONE on each side of the head is a VF1J.
>Jetfire, a VF1S, has the short optic, and two lasers on each side of
>the head. THe VF1J, with the long snout is the the VF that
>Hikaru/Rick uses until Roy dies. YOu are WRONG!
You're right, he's full of it. The "jetfire" is based on the BANDAI
1/55th VF-1S valkyrie, not the Takatoku one. The Bandai one is from the
movie, where Hikaru used a VF-1A (one optic, one top-mounted laser)
until he inherits the VF-1S from Max (NOT Fokker.)
The TV show "Hikaru" Valkyrie head is a VF-1J, which doesn't even show
up in the movie......which obviously the guy's never seen.
-Matt
Ranma 1449
Ok you nuts, I wish I could post all three pics of my Macross jetfires..
but i don't have scanner. When i get one I will. And to that Moron
who says that he thinks this Jetfire is a korean knockoff.... You have
got to be the stupidist idiot. I never seen a Koren Knockoff with a
Trasformer symbol MIB in a sealed case that was just openend, I can
EASILY tell what the knockoff is. Any it looks like you can't read all
the previous messages I wrote on it.
(first flame , puny though)
Drogn
In article <4ttibs$7...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, goj...@ix.netcom.com
(Matthew Alt) wrote:
I also have downloaded scans of the part of the two souces you
mentioned that back up my description of the Macross J head. I didn't list
them at the time, because A) they weren't in front of me, and B) they just
corroborate my other sources. The mode described is NOT an attempt at
Gerwalk mode, it's just a different way of arranging the toy. This is
obviously a case of "My book sez you're wrong! Well MY book sez YOU'RE
wrong!", so let's just drop it, OK?
-Drogn, who's not replying further
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Drogn
In article <4trl1t$e...@nyheter.SineWave.com>, Dead...@sinewave.com
(DeadPhrog) wrote:
>
> > And I have one, and it's made really badly out of chep plastic.
> The
> >thing wouldn't even transform properly until I dissassembled it and
> did
> >some dirty work with an X-Acto and fine sandpape, and it still doesn't
> fit
> >together properly, though it's much better.
> > It has the J head, with two lasers and the long snout for the
> >optics, and is probably based on the movie version since the cartoon
> head
> >was rather different.
>
> BULL! There are SEVERAL different variations of Valkyrie's/Veritechs.
> The long snouted ones with ONE on each side of the head is a VF1J.
> Jetfire, a VF1S, has the short optic, and two lasers on each side of
> the head. THe VF1J, with the long snout is the the VF that Hikaru/Rick
> uses until Roy dies. YOu are WRONG!
>
No, I am not wrong. I have the toy, the Robotech ROG, and the box
right in front of me, and the pictures in the RPG and on the box CLEARLY
AND UNDENIABLY show the TWO LASER J head as being round from the fron, and
haveing a chin area. The toy does not, and is SQUARE from the front. Check
your facts if you wwant to be an Authority, jackass.
>
> >Buttugly and leaves him in a mode that look like the jet-to-soldier
> >transformation jammed, and vaguely like some kind of monster form
> >robot.
>
> The mid-mode is a Gerwalk/Guardian.
>
This isn't gerwalk mode, the legs are straight down, the tails are
leaning to gether instead of folded, the backpack thing they are attatched
to is only rotated through half of it's swing, the sliding chest peice is
in battroid position, and the frame is at a 90 degree angle at the
shoulders, propped up on the hip sections, which are at 45 degrees ro the
section of fusilage that they are attatched to.
BOOT TO THE HEAD!!
*plonk*
-Drogn, currently exceedingly pissed off
Eric Harding
>
>You're right, he's full of it. The "jetfire" is based on the BANDAI
>1/55th VF-1S valkyrie, not the Takatoku one. The Bandai one is from the
>movie, where Hikaru used a VF-1A (one optic, one top-mounted laser)
>until he inherits the VF-1S from Max (NOT Fokker.)
>
>The TV show "Hikaru" Valkyrie head is a VF-1J, which doesn't even show
>up in the movie......which obviously the guy's never seen.
Actually, the VF-1J does make a brief apperance in the film...The Armoured
Valkyrie in the first battle scene that launches a ton of missiles is a 1J.
Eric
DAVID G TASHJIAN
DAVID G TASHJIAN (tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu) wrote:
: Okay, comparing the regular jetfire to the Macross version:
: Manufacturer:
: Normal: Bandai Tokyo, Japan
: Macross: Matsushiro Tokyo, Japan (nope, not a Korean ripoff I'd say)
: Wings:
: Normal: Both wings have a 1/4" red stripe in the middle of the wing
: Macross: Same as normal version except left wing has painted on
: RDF/UN Spacy symbol close to the middle of the wing.
Oops! I found one other difference... The Cockpit. The normal one is
a transparent smoke while the Macross has a nearly CLEAR canopy and has a
stripe of grey paint over it for the back half of the bubble. (like most
planes have a hinge there...) I missed it and wanted to correct.
Hex.
[ Paying attention is what this game is all about... ]
DAVID G TASHJIAN
Matthew Alt (goj...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G TASHJIAN) writes:
: >is different. It says 'Matsuisho' or something. But really now, do I
: >care if it's the _real_ McCoy or not? Not presently.
: If it has anything other than "Takatoku," "Bandai," or (perhaps)
: "Tatsunoko," written on it (and most probably the "bandai" one) it
: isn't. There's been a recent Korean knock-off of the Macross/"jetfire"
: toy circulating around for about $30, so that's probably waht it
: is.....
<Hex goes off to find his Jetfire>
Okay, comparing the regular jetfire to the Macross version:
Manufacturer:
Normal: Bandai Tokyo, Japan
Macross: Matsushiro Tokyo, Japan (nope, not a Korean ripoff I'd say)
Wings:
Normal: Both wings have a 1/4" red stripe in the middle of the wing
Macross: Same as normal version except left wing has painted on
RDF/UN Spacy symbol close to the middle of the wing.
Everything else appears to be the same. I also examined the screws for
any signs of being taken apart and there is none. Perhaps you are mistaken.
Can SOMEONE with any idea of what's going on PLEASE settle this. I feel
like I'm stuck in a FIRRIB/RIRFIB argument...
Hex.
[ Who changed his mind about caring about it just to know WHAT he has... ]
Matthew Alt
In <4tvbkn$a...@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G
TASHJIAN) writes:
Look, I don't think you're lying or anything, but what you've described
is WEIRD. I've personally held each and every Macross Takatoku and
bandai Valkyrie in my hands. They are as follows.
TAKATOKU VALKYRIES
VF-1J "Hikaru/Rick" (One cannon each side of triangular face) (Grey
body/Red chest/wing stripes)
VF-1A "Standard Type" (One cannon middle of head, square eye)
(Tan/white coloration)
VF-1J "Max" (Same as Hikaru's for head) (Blue body/White chest&wing
stripe, Smoked cockpit glass)
VF-1J "Miria" (Same as above for head) (Red body/ White chest&wing
stripe, smoked cockpit glass)
VF-1S "Focker" ("Jetfire" style head, green eye) (Grey body,
Yellow/Black stripes on chest, Black cockpit with skull mark)
BANDAI
VF-1A "Hikaru" (One cannon on top of square head) (White body.
red/black chest stripe, black wing stripes)
VF-1S "Hikaru Strike" (At first glance resembles "jetfire." Howvere,
eye is GREEN, Stripes are reversed on chest red/black, not black/red,
and armor is dark grey with large gun on one shoulder.)
VE-1 "Elintseeker" (Camera pod head, tube shaped, no guns) (grey with
yellow nose. Easily identified by huge AWACS radar dish on top. Smoked
Glass cockpit.)
VT-1 "Superostrich Trainer" (Trainer head) (Orange/white coloration,
two seat cockpit, chubby orange colored booster engine armor. Smoked
Glass cockpit.)
This is why I find your description weird, because it fits none of
these. These are the ONLY Bandai and takatoku Valkyries
produced........
-Matt
DAVID G TASHJIAN
Matthew Alt (goj...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G TASHJIAN) writes:
: > Can SOMEONE with any idea of what's going on PLEASE settle this.
: >I feel like I'm stuck in a FIRRIB/RIRFIB argument...
: is WEIRD. I've personally held each and every Macross Takatoku and
: bandai Valkyrie in my hands. They are as follows.
toys here. We are talking about a _Transformer_ with a RDF marking on it.
I support the theroy that these were first run paint errors that were
corrected fairly quickly. (Only because I have at least most/parts of about
9 Jetfires and I have only found this one with the RDF symbol painted on.
This excludes Jetfires owned by other people that I have seen and lack this
symbol.
If SOMEONE with a WWW site would like I'll take pictures and we can argue
amongst ourselves from there. Jeez, I'd like to ask the Hartmans about this
one and get it resolved.
: TAKATOKU VALKYRIES // BANDAI
Remember mine said: Matsushiro Tokyo,Japan
: VF-1S "Focker" ("Jetfire" style head, green eye) (Grey body,
: Yellow/Black stripes on chest, Black cockpit with skull mark)
I have (most of) this version and you missed some other details like
the headguns are slightly different from Jetfire's; They taper down to a
thin spot, then taper back out and form the length of the gun. You also
forgot to mention that his nosecone is not blunted like on Jetfire.
As a side note, the one I have was missing its right arm and most of
the rear fins, I scrapped down a couple of Jetfires to make him whole, but
of course, the color scheme is completely different. It also looks a little
funny with red armor pods, but you make do when you can.
: This is why I find your description weird, because it fits none of
: these. These are the ONLY Bandai and takatoku Valkyries
: produced........
Like I said, it's NOT a Robotech/Macross figure. Altho, I admit those
bots are neat. (I have part of a blue Alpha too who has a ton of broken
parts, but doesn't look TOO bad in Battleoid mode.)
Hex.
[ " Inside. Outside. Inside. Outside. In. Out. Out. In. Tastes great. Less
filling. Rumble: Red. Rumble: Blue. " -- Hex losing his mind... " ]
Matthew Alt
In <4u34fp$8...@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G
TASHJIAN) writes:
> AH-HA! There's the problem! We aren't talking about
Macross/Robotech
>toys here. We are talking about a _Transformer_ with a RDF marking on
>it.I support the theroy that these were first run paint errors that
>were corrected fairly quickly.
Gotcha. That makes sense.
>TAKATOKU VF-1S
>forgot to mention that his nosecone is not blunted like on Jetfire.
Wait a second. The nosecones on two other Bandai valkyries that I'm
looking at right now have "blunted" noses. Perhaps there was some
variation.
Ah, well......Problem still not solved.
-Matt
H. Jameel al Khafiz
tash...@ucunix.san.uc.edu (DAVID G TASHJIAN) writes:
> [ " Inside. Outside. Inside. Outside. In. Out. Out. In. Tastes great. Less
> filling. Rumble: Red. Rumble: Blue. " -- Hex losing his mind... " ]
The taste went straight to your head?
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Physicist-At-Large wonderin' what the pooz--!"
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DeadPhrog
In article <merryhwd-020...@pm0a9.bf.sover.net>,
merr...@sover.net (Drogn) wrote:
>In article <4trl1t$e...@nyheter.SineWave.com>, Dead...@sinewave.com
>(DeadPhrog) wrote:
>
>>
>> > And I have one, and it's made really badly out of chep plastic.
>> The
>> >thing wouldn't even transform properly until I dissassembled it and
>> did
>> >some dirty work with an X-Acto and fine sandpape, and it still doesn't
>> fit
>> >together properly, though it's much better.
>> > It has the J head, with two lasers and the long snout for the
>> >optics, and is probably based on the movie version since the cartoon
>> head
>> >was rather different.
>>
>> BULL! There are SEVERAL different variations of Valkyrie's/Veritechs.
>> The long snouted ones with ONE on each side of the head is a VF1J.
>> Jetfire, a VF1S, has the short optic, and two lasers on each side of
>> the head. THe VF1J, with the long snout is the the VF that Hikaru/Rick
>> uses until Roy dies. YOu are WRONG!
>>
>
> No, I am not wrong. I have the toy, the Robotech ROG, and the box
>right in front of me, and the pictures in the RPG and on the box CLEARLY
>AND UNDENIABLY show the TWO LASER J head as being round from the fron, and
>haveing a chin area. The toy does not, and is SQUARE from the front. Check
>your facts if you wwant to be an Authority, jackass.
1st, the RPG is crap, and DEAD WRONG on many things. And there IS a Veritech
on the show with two lasers (one on each side) and a long snout!
>> >Buttugly and leaves him in a mode that look like the jet-to-soldier
>> >transformation jammed, and vaguely like some kind of monster form
>> >robot.
>>
>> The mid-mode is a Gerwalk/Guardian.
>>
> This isn't gerwalk mode, the legs are straight down, the tails are
>leaning to gether instead of folded, the backpack thing they are attatched
>to is only rotated through half of it's swing, the sliding chest peice is
>in battroid position, and the frame is at a 90 degree angle at the
>shoulders, propped up on the hip sections, which are at 45 degrees ro the
>section of fusilage that they are attatched to.
Wellllll, mister PMS, I THOUGHT you meant Gerwalk/Guardian, and just didn't
know the name.
>BOOT TO THE HEAD!!
And a Super Dimensional Space/Time Oscillation Bomb to the head to you!
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DeadPhrog
In article <4ttibs$7...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>,
goj...@ix.netcom.com (Matthew Alt) wrote:
>In <merryhwd-020...@pm0a9.bf.sover.net> merr...@sover.net
>(Drogn) writes:
>
>>
>> No, I am not wrong. I have the toy, the Robotech ROG, and the box
>>right in front of me, and the pictures in the RPG and on the box
>>CLEARLY AND UNDENIABLY show the TWO LASER J head as being round from
>>the fron, and haveing a chin area. The toy does not, and is SQUARE
>>from the front. Check your facts if you wwant to be an Authority,
>>jackass.
>
>has absoloutely no bearing on the Japanese made TV show and movie,
>which were made YEARS before the american game. The RPG is wrong. Check
>YOUR facts......
THank you!! Exactly!