Power rangers toys "RPM" copies of alternators ravage & does a 4 legged beast that transforms in a liscensed car.
Victoryleo
legged beast that transforms in a liscensed car.
I saw 2 "RPM" power rangers toys at TOYS R US today. both were
liscensed cars. one was a liscensed car that transformed into a 4
legged white tiger. the 2nd was a liscensed red car that transformed
into a owl or hawk bird.
I actually bought the white liscensed car that transforms into a white
tigerzord.
Things I noticed about both "RPM" Power ranger cars that turn into
animals toys was as follows: car windows were NOT transparent clear
like hasbro alternators. no inner car seats,dashboards or sterring
wheel.
A few weeks ago,I noticed another power rangers "RPM" toy that
slightly resembled at UK European elite actionmaster TF exo-suit.
basically the F-1 Race car tranformed into a robotic exo-suit that a
power ranger 5 inch human figure could get into & use as a EXO-suit.
this stolen idea might could have been taken other toy lines such as
the TMNT Exo-suits. marvel super hero exo-suits.
These half assed COPIED attemps just show how the bandai power rangers
toy line is fearing the day the TF2/2009 movie toys hit stores aisles
world wide. it seems like the brass in charge of power rangers expects
the TF2 toys to sell out like hot cakes.
Onslaught Six
> These half assed COPIED attemps just show how the bandai power rangers
> toy line is fearing the day the TF2/2009 movie toys hit stores aisles
> world wide. it seems like the brass in charge of power rangers expects
> the TF2 toys to sell out like hot cakes.
...What? Super Sentai doesn't even have the same general market that
TF does in Japan these days. Sentai is for kids, TF is...well, mostly
it seems geared to fans these days.
SteveD
Not to mention that Super Sentai's been around since 1975, and doesn't
show any signs of slowing down. It's older than Star Wars.
-SteveD
Victoryleo
transformer toys too. when the TF2 Movie comes out in june,the most
popular toys will be TF2 toys. most parents live on a budget & can't
get it all. that said,they'll get transformers because of the TF2
movie hype & won't be able to get any power rangers toys.
Victoryleo
courtesy of the allspark message boards.
power rangers red car that turns into a hawk.
http://www.grnrngr.com/toys/pictures/x31zzz.jpg
Power rangers white car that turns into a tigerzord
http://www.grnrngr.com/toys/pictures/x31yyy.jpg
Onslaught Six
You're missing my point. These are 'not' Power Rangers Toys developed
explicitly for a US market. If anything, they're developed explicitly
for a 'Japanese' market, where the Transformers ARE NOT in the same
target demographic as Super Sentai.
In fact, the Sentai series that Power Rangers RPM is derived from,
Engine Sentai Go-onger, first started airing in Japan in February of
2008. These toys were out in Japan a 'full year' ago, so they clearly
*are not* intended to compete with the TF2 toys.
Victoryleo
Rangers Toys developed
explicitly for a US market. If anything, they're developed explicitly
for a 'Japanese' market, where the Transformers ARE NOT in the same
target demographic as Super Sentai."
onslaught,you do realize that japan is smaller that the state of
california. with that said,most of bandai's super sentai/power ranger
toy mold sales are from other countries like china,europe,America,hong
kong,canada & so forth. i'd imagine with such a international like
like super sentai/power rangers. that bandai america,bandai
canada,bandai UK,Bandai hong kong all get together during the super
sentai/power rangers new toy mold process each year & debate what will
sell as a global/international super sentai/power rangers toy line.
Onslaught-six also wrote: "In fact, the Sentai series that Power
Rangers RPM is derived from,
Engine Sentai Go-onger, first started airing in Japan in February of
2008. These toys were out in Japan a 'full year' ago, so they clearly
*are not* intended to compete with the TF2 toys."
First off,ever heard about spies that gather information on rival
competitors years/months/weeks in advance. the average TF toy line
was stated at botcon to take anywhere from 18 months to 14 months from
start to finish. i'd imagine the average Super sentai power rangers
toy line would take less shorter but still months to develope from
start to finish. SECOND OFF: If the average internet TF fan knew from
year 2007 that there would be TF 2 Movie toys in stores in 2009,how
much do you think the pro's/rival competitors know????????? I'd
estimate all rival competitors knows that the TF2 movie toys will be a
major sell out in stores. so rival competitors adjusted there toy
designs to mimic the TF2 toy designs a bit in 2009.
how else can you explain the high quality KO TF's with diecast metal
parts that bursted on the the scene during the year 2007 TF 1 movie &
toy line.
Onslaught Six
> with that said,most of bandai's super sentai/power ranger
> toy mold sales are from other countries like china,europe,America,hong
> kong,canada & so forth.
Source? Otherwise, the rest of your paragraph doesn't mean anything.
Unless you have numbers to back it up, you have nothing to say that
the exported Sentai/MMPR series actually makes more internationally
than it does domestically.
> First off,ever heard about spies that gather information on rival
> competitors years/months/weeks in advance. the average TF toy line
> was stated at botcon to take anywhere from 18 months to 14 months from
> start to finish. i'd imagine the average Super sentai power rangers
> toy line would take less shorter but still months to develope from
> start to finish. SECOND OFF: If the average internet TF fan knew from
> year 2007 that there would be TF 2 Movie toys in stores in 2009,how
> much do you think the pro's/rival competitors know????????? I'd
> estimate all rival competitors knows that the TF2 movie toys will be a
> major sell out in stores. so rival competitors adjusted there toy
> designs to mimic the TF2 toy designs a bit in 2009.
Except 'said designs hit Japan last year.' The fact that they are now
being released in the US at a similar time to the second TF movie is a
'coincidence,' and if anything it's the fact that the second movie was
ramped into production so quickly after the first that's causing the
two to coincide. I have 'zero' doubt that we would be getting these PR
toys 'regardless' of what TF is doing.
> how else can you explain the high quality KO TF's with diecast metal
> parts that bursted on the the scene during the year 2007 TF 1 movie &
> toy line.
...Coincidence? There's *always* been knockoffs. 2007 was 'also' the
year after Classics sold massively, meaning there was clear interest
in 'G1' TF characters (not that there was every any doubt, but
whatever) and 'that' could have caused the high-quality knockoffs. Or
maybe they just 'knocked off those toys' and they happened to pop up
in 2007.
Victoryleo
doesn't mean anything.
Unless you have numbers to back it up, you have nothing to say that
the exported Sentai/MMPR series actually makes more internationally
than it does domestically."
Dude,you do realize that japan is only the size of california & can
only squeeze so many people in that land space. verses the total
population of all the the other countires in the world. there's only
so many units of product the japanese people living in japan can buy
verses the over-all population living everywhere else but japan.
Gustavo Wombat
I think you underestimate the Japanese and their ability to buy crap.
A lot of discretionary purchases are much more expensive in Japan
(CDs, DVDs, Transformers), so the profit margins are likely much
higher as well.
Gustavo!
Gustavo Wombat
> On Jan 6, 12:05 am, Victoryleo <Victoryl...@aol.com> wrote:
> > First off,ever heard about spies that gather information on rival
> > competitors years/months/weeks in advance. the average TF toy line
> > was stated at botcon to take anywhere from 18 months to 14 months from
> > start to finish. i'd imagine the average Super sentai power rangers
> > toy line would take less shorter but still months to develope from
> > start to finish. SECOND OFF: If the average internet TF fan knew from
> > year 2007 that there would be TF 2 Movie toys in stores in 2009,how
> > much do you think the pro's/rival competitors know????????? I'd
> > estimate all rival competitors knows that the TF2 movie toys will be a
> > major sell out in stores. so rival competitors adjusted there toy
> > designs to mimic the TF2 toy designs a bit in 2009.
I don't think anyone knows if the TF2 toys will sell out the way the
last movie toys did. They are probably producing them in larger
quantities this year, and may end up swamping the market.
Plus, a lot of the characters are likely to return, which means that
sales of some characters may be less than expected, since people
already have one of the toys -- how many Optimus Primes do you need
that transform into the same thing?
Also, there RPM toys have very little in common with the TF2 toys
(assuming the TF2 toys are similar to the toys for the last movie).
Sure, they are licensed cars, but they appear to have simplistic
transformations, and become animals. Not too much in common.
> Except 'said designs hit Japan last year.' The fact that they are now
> being released in the US at a similar time to the second TF movie is a
> 'coincidence,' and if anything it's the fact that the second movie was
> ramped into production so quickly after the first that's causing the
> two to coincide. I have 'zero' doubt that we would be getting these PR
> toys 'regardless' of what TF is doing.
Agreed.
> > how else can you explain the high quality KO TF's with diecast metal
> > parts that bursted on the the scene during the year 2007 TF 1 movie &
> > toy line.
>
> ...Coincidence? There's *always* been knockoffs. 2007 was 'also' the
> year after Classics sold massively, meaning there was clear interest
> in 'G1' TF characters (not that there was every any doubt, but
> whatever) and 'that' could have caused the high-quality knockoffs. Or
> maybe they just 'knocked off those toys' and they happened to pop up
> in 2007.
I think quality manufacturing is just getting cheaper, and the
companies producing the knock offs are diversifying and trying to
capture a different market.
Gustavo!
Silvershot
Wow. I'm not saying I agree with Deathy here, but that is one well
thought out argument. There's logic in there, too.
-Silvershot
SteveD
wrote:
>Dude,you do realize that japan is only the size of california & can
>only squeeze so many people in that land space. verses the total
>population of all the the other countires in the world. there's only
>so many units of product the japanese people living in japan can buy
>verses the over-all population living everywhere else but japan.
Japan - 127 million people.
California - 38 million people.
So... just over three Californias of population, or about 40% of the USA.
-SteveD
Onslaught Six
> Wow. I'm not saying I agree with Deathy here, but that is one well
> thought out argument. There's logic in there, too.
I will concede this point as well--it's much better than the usual
Deathy trite, but it's also flawed and wrong, as both Gustavo and
SteveD pointed out. (And I'm glad for that--for a bit there, I was
afraid it was just gonna be me arguing with Deathy.)
Phillip Thorne
>Power rangers toys "RPM" copies of alternators ravage & does a 4
>legged beast that transforms in a liscensed car.
>power rangers red car that turns into a hawk.
><http://www.grnrngr.com/toys/pictures/x31zzz.jpg>
Toyota Camry, "Engine King Eagle Zord"
>Power rangers white car that turns into a tigerzord
><http://www.grnrngr.com/toys/pictures/x31yyy.jpg>
Toyota Prius, "Chrome Prowler Tiger Zord." Since when has a tiger
been solid black? The defining feature of a tiger, versus other big
cats, is a striped coat pattern. No stripes here.
Gah, those are ugly Zords (but they might be mis-transformed or
squashed in the packaging). These do not constitute a threat to ALT
(or the memory of ALT).
The official Bandai toy site is still focused on "Jungle Fury" -- no
"RPM" pics.
Still looking for better pics... "Linear Ranger's" site doesn't yet
have reviews for these two toys. Oh, look. These sub-Zords have
"engine keys." Cyberkey-like, or just storage?
<http://www.bandai.com/powerrangers/>
<http://www.linearranger.com/RPM/ToyReviews-RPM.htm>
<http://linearranger.com/RPMToys/RPMToy02.htm>
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Blaster Master
table, or walk away from this discussion. And while we're eon the topic of
population, just because there are countries outside of Japan, this does NOT
mean that product is exported to said country. This is a rather large flaw
in your logic.
--
Blaster Master
a.k.a.
Brad S. Russell
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ShadowWing
"Blaster Master" wrote
> And while we're on the topic of population, just because there are
> said country.
Or rather designed with exporation in mind. I don't think the Sentai
producers really pay attention to what the current or past Power Ranger
producers are doing. Since MMPR, and even Saban's first attempt, Dynaman,
it's been Japan makes the show and US edits it to suit their needs. I'm
guessing CW4Kids's new "Kamen Rider Dragon Knight" is working the same way,
as did Saban's Masked Rider, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, and even DiC's
Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad.