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kmu...@hofstra.edu

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the 70's?
old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have known
he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?

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Disruptor

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kmu...@hofstra.edu wrote:
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> If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the 70's?
> old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have known
> he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?
Voyager 3 maybe

Neale Davidson

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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Disruptor wrote in message <6ei3r9$iti$1...@gte1.gte.net>...

Heh... well, there is /Astrotrain/ around in 1985... and why would Voyager
head to
Cybertron unless someone deliberately aimed it there... :)

Neale

Cronimus Primal

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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First off, how many times do we have to tell you people? PUT THE WORD
`SPOILER` IN THE HEADER, AND PLACE SPOILER SPACE IN THE BODY OF THE
TEXT! <Cronimus inhales deeply>
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Now that wasn't so hard, was it? Now, on your observation, why did G1
Megatron need to place his message on the disc before it was launched?
The Transformers are a space traveling race. Megatron could have simply
found out about the explorer, found its position in space, caught it,
placed his message on the disc, then relaunched it. I'm almost betting
this happened. Then he could have sent the probe in Cybertron's
direction, there by guaranteeing that it would be found by the
Decepticon's at some point.
~CP

"Life is no more assuring than love, and there are no answers from
above. You're fighting the weight of the world, and no one can save you
this time. Close your eyes, you can find all you need in mind!"
~Dream Theater

Bob Forward

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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kmu...@hofstra.edu wrote:
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> If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the 70's?
> old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have known
> he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?
>
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> http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading


If you look closely, you'll see that Megatron inscribes the disk in
space, with Saturn in the background. In actual fact I believe the
Voyager was closer to Uranus in 1984, but I called for Saturn because it
made a better visual. Why quibble over ringed planets? :)


--
Bob Forward
Story Editor -- Beast Wars

----------------------------------------
Hasbro Exec #1: "About this 'GoBots' joke... I don't know... who owns
them?"

Writer: "Um... I thought YOU did."

Hasbro Exec #1: "Do we?"

Hasbro Exec #2: "Uh, yes, I think that's right..."

Hasbro Exec #1: "Oh. Well, okay, then."

The Lunatic

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Mar 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/15/98
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not that's it needed, but let's put a lil spoiler space
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that's better
kmu...@hofstra.edu wrote in message <6ei2gv$n0m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the 70's?
>old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have
known
>he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?


I am pretty sure that Megatron put the message on the disc while Voyager was
in space. I also think Agenda pt 2 depicted this pretty clearly. they show
Voyager leaving Earth and flying through the solar system and just after it
passes what appears to be Saturn, which I think it did around 1986, they
show Megatron putting the message on the disc. it is pretty obvious from the
background that this is being done in space. i'll admit though i was a lil
confused at first too, thought the same thing too. but i had it on tape so
when i rewatched it i noticed what was actually going on. hope that clears
it up for ya

{tl}


Lizard

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:57:02 -0800, Bob Forward
<Beas...@youknow.where> wrote:

>kmu...@hofstra.edu wrote:
>>
>> If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the 70's?
>> old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have known
>> he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?
>>

>> -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>> http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>
>
>If you look closely, you'll see that Megatron inscribes the disk in
>space, with Saturn in the background. In actual fact I believe the
>Voyager was closer to Uranus in 1984, but I called for Saturn because it
>made a better visual. Why quibble over ringed planets? :)

Hmmm....

I can just see the techs at NASA...

"Hey, we lost track of Voyager!"
"What? Are you sure?"
"Yeah, it just vanished off the scope!"
"Oh, man, there goes our budget..."
"No, wait, look -- we've picked it up again. Odd. OK, I'm getting a
signal now."
"Phew. Let's just hush this up, OK?"
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Rian Mueller

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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The Lunatic <lun...@pla-net.net> wrote in article
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> not that's it needed, but let's put a lil spoiler space
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> that's better
> kmu...@hofstra.edu wrote in message <6ei2gv$n0m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

> >If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the
70's?
> >old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have
> known
> >he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?
>
>

> I am pretty sure that Megatron put the message on the disc while Voyager
was
> in space. I also think Agenda pt 2 depicted this pretty clearly. they
show
> Voyager leaving Earth and flying through the solar system and just after
it
> passes what appears to be Saturn, which I think it did around 1986, they
> show Megatron putting the message on the disc. it is pretty obvious from
the
> background that this is being done in space. i'll admit though i was a
lil
> confused at first too, thought the same thing too. but i had it on tape
so
> when i rewatched it i noticed what was actually going on. hope that
clears
> it up for ya
>

Just some pointless clarification. Voyager 1 and 2 passed Saturn in 1980 or
81, and Voyager 2 passed Uranus in 1986. I'm guessing he reached it when it
flew by Uranus in 86, which would make it Voyager 2, if that's important.
They just chose to show Saturn because it's easier for children to
identify. Voyager 1 was thrown out of the astral plane (i'm sure that's NOT
the right term) during it's Saturn flyby and Voyager 2 went on to visit
Uranus and Neptune.

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JCanty3773

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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>From: kmu...@hofstra.edu
>Date: Sun, Mar 15, 1998 21:26 EST
>Message-id: <6ei2gv$n0m$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>

>
>If im not mistaken, wasn't the Voyager space shuttle launched in the 70's?
>old megatron sent the golden disk up on the voyager, but he wouldnt have
>known
>he was going t lose until after the bots awakened in 1984. right?

When I first saw it I was thinking that too. But Then they showed G1 MEGATRON
at the disk and one of the outer planits in the backgound since Earth space
travil is MUCH slower then even G1 Cybertron travel he probaly got to it in
1989 1990(non shown G1 years) when every thing wasn't going so good. Then some
time in the late 90's and befor 2005 he probaly forgot about it becuse the
Cons' stated winning.

Jason

Gstealer

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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Umm.. Sorta Makes you wonder about that Probe that dissappeared a little
while back??

Hmm... Did my walkman just move???

-Gstealer

ALFett

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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>
>If you look closely, you'll see that Megatron inscribes the disk in
>space, with Saturn in the background. In actual fact I believe the
>Voyager was closer to Uranus in 1984, but I called for Saturn because it
>made a better visual. Why quibble over ringed planets? :)

Hm.....maybe this can explain exactly what Megatron was doing out in space with
Astrotrain in the G1 ep "Cosmic Rust". If I'm wrong, we'll have a ton a fanfics
on this one.

ToyHawk
ALF...@aol.com
"Saturian simpleton!"-Megatron

PSANG32

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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><HTML><PRE><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=3>Subject: Re: Agenda 3 Flub
>From: alf...@aol.com (ALFett)
>Date: Mon, Mar 16, 1998 19:57 EST
>Message-id: <19980317005...@ladder03.news.aol.com>

>
>>
>>If you look closely, you'll see that Megatron inscribes the disk in
>>space, with Saturn in the background. In actual fact I believe the
>>Voyager was closer to Uranus in 1984, but I called for Saturn because it
>>made a better visual. Why quibble over ringed planets? :)
>Hm.....maybe this can explain exactly what Megatron was doing out in space
>with
>Astrotrain in the G1 ep "Cosmic Rust". If I'm wrong, we'll have a ton a
>fanfics
>on this one.
>
>

HEY NOW THERE'S AN IDEA! That could tie in nicely

'lo


msi...@ibm.net

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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Bob Forward wrote:

> If you look closely, you'll see that Megatron inscribes the disk in
> space, with Saturn in the background. In actual fact I believe the
> Voyager was closer to Uranus in 1984, but I called for Saturn because it
> made a better visual. Why quibble over ringed planets? :)

Because one is a much better punchline for a series of juvenile yet
unstoppably funny jokes?

(One pertaining to a Transformer knockoff... consider the comedy
potential of a HeadMaster named after a certain ringed planet...)

> Hasbro Exec #1: "About this 'GoBots' joke... I don't know... who owns
> them?"
>
> Writer: "Um... I thought YOU did."
>
> Hasbro Exec #1: "Do we?"
>
> Hasbro Exec #2: "Uh, yes, I think that's right..."
>
> Hasbro Exec #1: "Oh. Well, okay, then."

Oh, you're kidding, right? This for real?


M "Miiiiiiiighty Rooooooobots, Miiiiiiiighty Lame Cartoon!" Sipher

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