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Megatron Video Camcorder Prototype on Ebay again

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Jax

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Oct 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/16/00
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The link to the watch is the "Megs" link.
Jax

Dalkeil wrote in message ...
>The Megatron in nice if it's the real thing. But wait - you get a free
>certificate of authenticity included - IT MUST BE REAL!
>
>I have the Brooklyn Bridge up for auction, bid now and get a free
>certificate of authenticity with it! Shipping is extra.
>
>The least the kitbasher could have done was covered up the green from the
G2
>Megatron's paint. Look closely at the arm joints.
>
>"David H." <ncc4...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
>news:20001016202042...@ng-ft1.aol.com...
>> I know there was quite the discussion on this on A.T.T. the last time
Whiz
>Bang
>> toys put this up, but now it's got the "from Hasbro and Takara designer's
>> collection" that a lot of their stuff has had lately. Anyone have any
>> comments? Also--the blue Ramjet they have up piqued my curiosity. And I
>never
>> saw a G2 Superion watch--I'd like one of those. :)
>>
>> Megs:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468538893
>>
>> Blue Ramjet:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468440706
>>
>> G2 Superion watch:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468538893
>>
>> David H.
>> (please remove "nospam" to reply via e-mail)
>>
>>
>
>

David H.

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Oct 16, 2000, 8:20:42 PM10/16/00
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Dalkeil

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Oct 16, 2000, 8:36:00 PM10/16/00
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The Megatron in nice if it's the real thing. But wait - you get a free
certificate of authenticity included - IT MUST BE REAL!

I have the Brooklyn Bridge up for auction, bid now and get a free
certificate of authenticity with it! Shipping is extra.

The least the kitbasher could have done was covered up the green from the G2
Megatron's paint. Look closely at the arm joints.

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Zobovor

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Oct 16, 2000, 10:04:28 PM10/16/00
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David H. wrote:

>I know there was quite the discussion on this on A.T.T. the last time
>Whiz Bang toys put this up, but now it's got the "from Hasbro and
>Takara designer's collection" that a lot of their stuff has had lately.
>Anyone have any comments?

Only that this one is gross. Gross. GROSS!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468478027


Zobovor... gross gross gross gross...

David H.

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Oct 17, 2000, 2:18:50 AM10/17/00
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>The link to the watch is the "Megs" link.

So it is. Correct link to the G2 Superion watch:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468402672

Zobovor

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Oct 17, 2000, 2:33:29 AM10/17/00
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David H. wrote:

>So it is. Correct link to the G2 Superion watch:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468402672

You know, I just want to throw out a commentary here... the bid for the
Megatron camcorder prototype is up to $630, and the reserve price is *still*
not yet met??


Zobovor... I'd start bidding just to see what the heck the reserve price
actually is, if I didn't still owe eBay six dollars for the two miserable
auctions that I bothered to run but which people flaked on. But anyway.

Aziraphale

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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Isn't that just a kitbashed 'Krang' (the brain-thing on metal legs)
toy from the Teenage Mutant Turtles ?

SCALPERS!

Paul Segal

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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Jeez...I wonder how much of this stuff is fake. To echo someone else's
statement, that's obviously made from a G2 Tank Megs, and there's
no way you or I could confirm that it was made by a Takara designer -
but someone's going to pay something ridiculous for it.
How about this supposed "unreleased Pretender shell":

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468504380

I think I'll find some of an ugly, ugly old series of figures (Were
Inhumanoids the ones who lived underground and were lead by an enormous
skeleton full of meat?), cut one down the middle, and say it's an
unreleased monster Pretender shell. That thing is so far from the design
style of the Pretenders...it's scary how much money people are going to
pay for such dubious stuff.


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Ranma 1449

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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I'm going to step in here and hopefully smack down the opposition. Whiz Bang
has been on of the producers of the FX show in Florida, as well as a major
orangizer of vintage Gi Joe shows. He also has probably THEY best connections
I have ever seen with Employee's from Hasbro. He has provided many other
Hasbro prototypes before on ebay and off. About 6 months ago he started to
get pieces from the creator of the vintage Gi Joe and place them on ebay.
I have no doubt what-so-ever that these piece are real and came from Hasbro.
Also it would be nice if knowledgable experts on prototypes post about these
auctions, because their statements will actually show the truth behind the
pieces. As for others, they are just randomly throwing out their opinions on
now basis.

-Pretender Bug, 2nd one to appear. 1st one was shown at BOTCON 1996.

-Micromaster Base - Shown At Botcon 1996 (exact one)

-Generator Monster, couldn't back it up for the life of me. Following up with
his creditionals though..its real.

As for Kitbashing of figures to help propose new idea's...yes this is very
common in any company. Ever seen the proposed small droids that were supposed
to go with the 1986 lineup of Star Wars Droids figures? One of the droids is a
Wheeljack missile launcher with feet and hands painted blue.

Allan [Weapon X] Liangco

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6:37 PM EST, 10/17/00

On 17 Oct 2000, 00:20:42 GMT, "David H." <ncc4...@aol.com> wrote in
<20001016202042...@ng-ft1.aol.com>:

> Megs:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468538893

> Blue Ramjet:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468440706

Regarding the statement in the webpage of mention about Megatron:

" ... by TAKARA designers for the purposes of a proposal to Hasbro ... "

For a "proposal" to Hasbro?? I would have thought it was the other way around --
that Takara would approve of a mold like this, without really needing Hasbro's
approval too. Unless this was something that was planned exclusively for the US.

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Dusty

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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I'm not saying there is any way to prove any of this.......

But you *DO* understand what a true prototype is, right? Its not those
little toys that look exactly like the current toy, only in some ugly
pastel color. Those are called "test shots" and are just that....a test
in the mold to see how everything fits together before they start to go
to the painting process.

Of course they are going to use one of their own toys (the G2 tank
Megs) and "kitbash it" per se, into something new if they are going to
upgrade it somehow. Its on hand, and it is just to show the basic idea
that they are thinking about. As we know...that toy was never produced.
That is why they make a prototype.....to see if the idea will work,
then they go further.

Take the Unicron for example...that is an example of a prototype from
scratch, and still isn't even mold ready. That is a level that the get
to when they want to take it to the next step...that never happened,
unfortunately. However most prototypes NEVER even get to that stage.
Theya re just an idea that someone thought of and thought they would
see how it looked physically.

I believe that the g2 megatron camcorder is real....since it looks
EXACTLY how most idea prototypes I have seen looks.


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Zepherimus

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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>Jeez...I wonder how much of this stuff is fake. To echo someone else's
>statement, that's obviously made from a G2 Tank Megs, and there's
>no way you or I could confirm that it was made by a Takara designer -
>but someone's going to pay something ridiculous for it.
>How about this supposed "unreleased Pretender shell":
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=468504380
>
>I think I'll find some of an ugly, ugly old series of figures (Were
>Inhumanoids the ones who lived underground and were lead by an enormous
>skeleton full of meat?), cut one down the middle, and say it's an
>unreleased monster Pretender shell. That thing is so far from the design
>style of the Pretenders...it's scary how much money people are going to
>pay for such dubious stuff.


I dunno, look at some of the basic pretenders. Slog is pretty simplistic as
is Catilla ,Snarl, Chainclaw.

Zepherimus
But it's empty, so why in the hell would anyone want it?

Spamticon King of the Potato People

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Oct 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/17/00
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hmmmm, why does a camcorder have treads on the back of his legs....and those
arms, and the head..... I've seen them before

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TigerM...@webtv.net

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Oct 18, 2000, 1:42:25 AM10/18/00
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I wasen't going to respond to this post BUT alot of the people who
responded to the post made sense. especially ( allan) , in 1995 the TF
line was basically almost dead & TAKARA in Japan didnt start creating
new molds until beastwars 2nd came out in 1998. basically from 1993 to
1997 takara merly used the hasbro molds & didnt create anything new. I
find it kinda odd that Takara would create a camcorder megatron & expect
it to sell well. I mean isnt that a spies job & not a leader like
megatron.
how would being a camcorder increase megatron's power. would camcorder
megatron go around video taping the autobots & then blackmail them to
get the video back.
that camcorder robot mode of megatron did look nice but it reaked of G-2
megatron to much,geez the head,torso,arms ,slight chest ,were 100 %
identical to G-2 Megatron.
BACK TO THE SITUATION, in 1996 hasbro took a major risk by introducing
super poseable beastwars toys,the KEY word is RISK here & being that the
1995 TF line didnt sell well,why would takara make a stupid Camcorder
that obviously wouldnt sell well. things like these idea's are used when
a toy line is doing well & not dying. example is beastmachines, we have
deployers,beast riders & much more assortments, if the TF line was doing
badly ,hasbro would never have been as bold to try new ideas like this.

Ranma 1449

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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Um, the piece is a kit bash which means low cost. It is offered to Takara or
Hasbro if it is a Idea that they may want the next series of Transformers to be
heading in. This piece is NOT the final result, but only a concept being
offered. You find these things in all other toy lines. Ever heard of Vintage
Star Wars Mondo Beefhead? It was a squidhead glued upside down on a hammerhead
body(?). This piece was then offered to Lucas as a idea that Kenner was
interested in and then was rejected.
This is a low cost test and these happen so often it is ridiculos. As Whiz
Bang says, they were looking possible to go back to Transformers being
household objects like Microman. I can easily see this being a test for
internal Hasbro.
As for a Cartoon Video Camer Megatron etc. They would have never reached that
stage or even Thought about it. This is only concept and they Used a Megatron
in it. Who said the final result would be that it was going to be Megatron? I
sincerely doubt this.

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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That looks very cool.

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That looks very cool.

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Zepherimus

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Oct 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/18/00
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But wasn't this guy "created" after the Ball and Socket jointed robots had
already come on the scene?


What was the fricking point?


Zepherimus

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Oct 18, 2000, 11:05:44 PM10/18/00
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>But wasn't this guy "created" after the Ball and Socket jointed robots had
>already come on the scene?
>
>
>What was the fricking point?
>

What do ball and socket joints have to do with it? Not all toys have to have
those. Two of the original Combaticons had ball and socket joints, but that
didn't mean that they were forced to use them on every toy...just because ball
and socket joints were part of some of the toy line didn't mean that every toy
had to have them to be a good toy...


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Oct 19, 2000, 12:46:08 AM10/19/00
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GEEZ,some on e-bay are actually bidding on camcorder megatron, why not
just save $ 700 dollars & make your own, all you need to do is re-place
the tank laser canon with a flash light or flash light looking camera
lens, the lower legs might be a bit harder to kitbash,but its possible.
like I said in my previous post, camcorder megatron has the head, arms
,torso, upper legs & slight chest of G-2 tank Megatron. just paint the
thing black & there you go, $ 700 dollars saved & not WASTED.

BW Sidecutter

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Oct 19, 2000, 1:29:00 AM10/19/00
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>What do ball and socket joints have to do with it? Not all toys have to have
>those. Two of the original Combaticons had ball and socket joints, but that
>didn't mean that they were forced to use them on every toy...just because
>ball
>and socket joints were part of some of the toy line didn't mean that every
>toy
>had to have them to be a good toy...
>

Agreed. Me, I didn't mind ball and sockets on the beast toys at al. They work
ok on mechanical type toys too, but mostly the small ones. For anything Deluxe
or larger that's mechanical in design, I'd rather see swivels combined with
ratchets to give a more mechanical look while retaining the same level of
posability.

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Zepherimus

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Oct 19, 2000, 2:01:32 AM10/19/00
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Robowang who tastes mighty good wrote in message
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>>But wasn't this guy "created" after the Ball and Socket jointed robots had
>>already come on the scene?
>>
>>
>>What was the fricking point?
>>
>
>What do ball and socket joints have to do with it? Not all toys have to
have
>those. Two of the original Combaticons had ball and socket joints, but
that
>didn't mean that they were forced to use them on every toy...just because
ball
>and socket joints were part of some of the toy line didn't mean that every
toy
>had to have them to be a good toy...

Tell that to every toy past 1988.

Zepherimus
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Zobovor

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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Robowang wrote:

>>But wasn't this guy "created" after the Ball and Socket jointed robots
>>had already come on the scene?
>

>What do ball and socket joints have to do with it?

I think the point is that Hasbro had, it seems, pretty much re-thought their
design philosophy for Transformers. With the exception of the Go-Bots and the
Autorollers, every Transformer released since the Laser Rods were produced had
superior articulation. A largely un-poseable toy (four points of articulation,
all in the arms) such as the Megatron tank would, I think, have been a step
backwards.

There's nothing saying that if this camcorder toy *had* been released, they
wouldn't have retooled the toy to include the new ball-and-socket design, of
course.

Zepherimus

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Oct 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/19/00
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A fool and his money are soon parted.


But, if it's worth it to the guy whose bidding, good for him.

Zepherimus
The unoriginality of these people is painful though. It's worse than the
little "Marble" Matrix that sold for $40 some dollars.

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