Thoughts on "Possession" (SPOILERS!)
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> 3) I still can't figure out why Starscream was a ghost, because in the
> last G1 episode he was in, he got his body back, and was drifting through
> space. The explanation that he was nuked by Galvatron was right, but he
> didn't explain getting the body back. Maybe his body deteriorated after a
> few hundred years? *shrug* I don't know.
From what I've gathered, Bob Forward was completely unaware that
Starscream ever got a body back until after the episode was produced.
What I want to know is, how could Cheeotor dream about Starscream in
"The Web" and then never have heard of him because all the records of
Starscream were sealed? (Forgive me if this is resolved in the
episode...I don't get to see it until february, and forgot to set the
VCR to tape The Web.
Jeremy Hall
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Just a few random thoughts on Possession:
1) I forget who it was, but the "Maximal Elders" were mentioned as having
locked away the files on the Great War (I think OP said it, but I'm not
sure). This got me thinking about another theory on where the Max's &
Pred's came from: What if the Quintessons created them? Think: They
want a new race of beings to do their bidding, the Sharkticons being
obsolete, so they create a "new breed" of transformers (version 2.0, if
you will), and they evolved in much the same way that the Autobots and
Decepticons evolved. It would explain the different faction names, and
also the re-used names, because some of the maximals and predacons could
have been created by the quints "in the image" of older transformers.
2) "Starscream, are all your dreams in technicolour?" - I just *love*
that line. For once Tigatron didn't have the coolest line in the episode. :)
3) I still can't figure out why Starscream was a ghost, because in the
last G1 episode he was in, he got his body back, and was drifting through
space. The explanation that he was nuked by Galvatron was right, but he
didn't explain getting the body back. Maybe his body deteriorated after a
few hundred years? *shrug* I don't know.
4) Lastly, this should prove once and for all that BW Megatron is not the
G1 Megatron. When Starscream handed him the explanation that he was blown
away by Unicron, if Megatron were the G1 Megatron, he also would have been
Galvatron, and said, "No Starscream, *I* blew you up. Get outta here."
(or something like that) :)
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Steve Hannah
Patrick Thompson wrote:
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> > last G1 episode he was in, he got his body back, and was drifting through
> > space. The explanation that he was nuked by Galvatron was right, but he
> > didn't explain getting the body back. Maybe his body deteriorated after a
> > few hundred years? *shrug* I don't know.
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> Starscream ever got a body back until after the episode was produced.
> What I want to know is, how could Cheeotor dream about Starscream in
> "The Web" and then never have heard of him because all the records of
> Starscream were sealed?
BeastBob1
>>What I want to know is, how could Cheeotor dream about Starscream in
"The Web" and then never have heard of him because all the records of
Starscream were sealed?<<
We like to explain it as "race memory." Cheetor dreamed of Starscream
without even knowing precisely what he was dreaming of.
B
Neale Davidson
<Grimlock voice> Stubbies here, people... Stubbies.
(UK Comic fans should get this one.)
Scott Mcallister - UPLG/F93
Neale Davidson (nea...@erols.com) wrote:
: > >>What I want to know is, how could Cheeotor dream about Starscream in
: > "The Web" and then never have heard of him because all the records of
: > Starscream were sealed?<<
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: > We like to explain it as "race memory." Cheetor dreamed of Starscream
: > without even knowing precisely what he was dreaming of.
He's psychic! He has to be. Even in the ep where the Maximals
were truly "beasties", Cheetor dreamed of a chase sequence where he falls
into a lava pit. The chase was actually on until Tigatron intervened.
That's more than coincidence.
Patrick Thompson
Neale Davidson wrote:
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> > >>What I want to know is, how could Cheeotor dream about Starscream in
> > "The Web" and then never have heard of him because all the records of
> > Starscream were sealed?<<
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> > We like to explain it as "race memory." Cheetor dreamed of Starscream
> > without even knowing precisely what he was dreaming of.
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I think without thinking about it Bob and Larry cut through all the
"revived character"/"Inferno is a traitor" confusion...Cheetor's dream
with Starscream could be an example of a Jungian archetype. Similarly,
the use of repeated names could be merely the reuse of common cultural
archetypes. Of course, I missed "The Low Road" but it sounds that after
that ep any discussion that introduces Jungian archetypes is a bit too
intellectual for at least some segment of the transformer audience.